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Published on: February 24, 2012 03:05 PM
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New York - New York City has released the rankings of thousands of public school teachers who were rated on their ability to affect students’ progress on standardized tests.

The rankings track 18,000 math and English public school teachers from fourth through eighth grades

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The New York Times (http://nyti.ms/zlsFQL  ) reports that three years of ratings were released. They’re based on how students progressed from one year to the next. The rankings gauge the extent to which their teachers were responsible for the students’ progress.

The release of the information comes after a yearlong legal battle with the United Federation of Teachers. It sued unsuccessfully to keep the names confidential.

School administrators, teachers and others have criticized the Teacher Data Reports. Critics say there are large margins of error and factual errors or omissions.


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 Feb 24, 2012 at 03:20 PM eigner Says:

Great idea!
They should implement this in the Yeshivas and Bais Yakovs too.

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 Feb 25, 2012 at 10:00 AM SherryTheNoahide Says:

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eigner Says:

Great idea!
They should implement this in the Yeshivas and Bais Yakovs too.

lol- I know what you mean! Public schools always get ripped to SHREDS here on VIN... until there's an article about how rotten a lot of the private schools are too! (Not just the Jewish ones either- x-tian schools as well!)

The fact that a parent PAYS for their kids to go to school, isn't a guarantee of anything! Your kid could end up attending Jerusalem University one day... or living on your couch while he works at the Quickie Mart across the street.

It's all about how good the teachers are, how involved the parents are, how motivated the children are to succeed, and... the opportunity to learn well!

I mean, some rinky-dink private x-tian schools don't even teach the BASICS of science & cosmology to their kids, for fear they'll start to think outside the box & see G-d or the Bible in a different light!

So what good did paying tuition do their kids?! They didn't learn ANY of the most up-to-date science & mathematics to compete w\other young adults out there one day when they graduate!

I'm not against private education: our kids both went to x-tian schools until we converted!

I just hate the stuck-up attitudes that some parents have about private school!

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 Feb 25, 2012 at 10:16 AM SherryTheNoahide Says:

(con't)

I cannot stress it enough, that no matter WHAT school a kid goes to:

There is **NO** substitution for parents who are INVOLVED in their kid's education, who make sure their kids are doing their homework like they're supposed to, who take the time to know who the teachers are & to stay in communication w\them & to work out education plans together.

Don't just assume because the school has some fancy computer lab, offers 2nd language learning at an elementary level, or rates the highest in the district in test scores, (ALL of which my son's PUBLIC SCHOOL offers, thank you very much)... the kid will for sure turn out to be a Rhodes Scholar one day! He won't, if he's not motivated, or if YOU (the parent) aren't involved!

And besides... a lot of private schools are NOT that fancy! (lol)

There can be really GREAT public schools out there & really ghetto private ones! You all know it's true! So just paying tuition & being able to SAY your kid is "privately educated", isn't a guarantee of anything!

I think it's GREAT if a family can put their kids in private school! Just don't assume your kids will come out knowing MORE or being MORE successful, than other people's kids!

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 Feb 25, 2012 at 07:17 PM Anonymous Says:

If you have a lousy student or a lousy child and tried everything, then it's not your fault.

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 Feb 25, 2012 at 07:40 PM curious Says:

There was an ad put out by the Teachers' Union with compelling evidence about how flawed the teacher rating system was. It was very compelling.

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 Feb 25, 2012 at 07:45 PM AuthenticSatmar Says:

When our teachers will get paid the same as public school teachers then we can demand the same. For what we're paying teachers, it's luck that our kids learn anything at all. Think about how much of our tuition goes to the teacher.

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 Feb 25, 2012 at 08:13 PM jacksax Says:

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eigner Says:

Great idea!
They should implement this in the Yeshivas and Bais Yakovs too.

No they shouldn't. The system has taken the fun and joy out of teaching. Instead of long term learning and self motivation taking place . We have great teachers who feel pressured to teach for these test rather then teach whats important for each child on his or her induvidual level. Anyone with their two eyes open knows that these scores dont accurately present anything.

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 Feb 25, 2012 at 08:57 PM qazxc Says:

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jacksax Says:

No they shouldn't. The system has taken the fun and joy out of teaching. Instead of long term learning and self motivation taking place . We have great teachers who feel pressured to teach for these test rather then teach whats important for each child on his or her induvidual level. Anyone with their two eyes open knows that these scores dont accurately present anything.

You might bebecome correct but you didn't offer a different proposal to systematically and regularly weed out the really bad teachers and rabbe'im in our yeshivos and day schools.

Any ideas how to get around the 'old buddies' system of hiring and keeping mechanchim based on who they know and who the married?

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 Feb 25, 2012 at 09:15 PM qazxc Says:

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SherryTheNoahide Says:

(con't)

I cannot stress it enough, that no matter WHAT school a kid goes to:

There is **NO** substitution for parents who are INVOLVED in their kid's education, who make sure their kids are doing their homework like they're supposed to, who take the time to know who the teachers are & to stay in communication w\them & to work out education plans together.

Don't just assume because the school has some fancy computer lab, offers 2nd language learning at an elementary level, or rates the highest in the district in test scores, (ALL of which my son's PUBLIC SCHOOL offers, thank you very much)... the kid will for sure turn out to be a Rhodes Scholar one day! He won't, if he's not motivated, or if YOU (the parent) aren't involved!

And besides... a lot of private schools are NOT that fancy! (lol)

There can be really GREAT public schools out there & really ghetto private ones! You all know it's true! So just paying tuition & being able to SAY your kid is "privately educated", isn't a guarantee of anything!

I think it's GREAT if a family can put their kids in private school! Just don't assume your kids will come out knowing MORE or being MORE successful, than other people's kids!

I'll try to be polite about this but the subjects of yeshiva education and the difficulties therein are not ones about which you have much understanding or wisdom to share, as would not a Jewish person who has not dealt with these issues.


Commenting on the relevance of this article to yeshivos and Hebrew day schools lessens the perceived value of your opinions on issues of more global experience.

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 Feb 25, 2012 at 09:17 PM qazxc Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

If you have a lousy student or a lousy child and tried everything, then it's not your fault.

A good teacher can bring out the best in any child. How good that child's 'best' will be might be limited but there is rarely an excuse for total failure.

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 Feb 25, 2012 at 11:18 PM MyComment Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

If you have a lousy student or a lousy child and tried everything, then it's not your fault.

I've never seen lousy students or children just lousy teachers and parents.

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 Feb 26, 2012 at 12:27 AM esther Says:

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qazxc Says:

A good teacher can bring out the best in any child. How good that child's 'best' will be might be limited but there is rarely an excuse for total failure.

and how many years teaching experience do you have sir or madam?

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 Feb 26, 2012 at 07:37 AM qazxc Says:

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esther Says:

and how many years teaching experience do you have sir or madam?

20+

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 Feb 26, 2012 at 11:05 AM SherryTheNoahide Says:

Reply to #9  
qazxc Says:

I'll try to be polite about this but the subjects of yeshiva education and the difficulties therein are not ones about which you have much understanding or wisdom to share, as would not a Jewish person who has not dealt with these issues.


Commenting on the relevance of this article to yeshivos and Hebrew day schools lessens the perceived value of your opinions on issues of more global experience.

I was replying to what poster #1 said.

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