Jerusalem – Knesset Member Eichler: Reform Jews are Anti-Semites

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    Jerusalem – MK Yisrael Eichler (United Torah Judaism) was removed from a Knesset Women’s Committee meeting this week, after he called members of the Reform Movement “anti-Semites.”

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    Reform Movement representatives present the Knesset’s Committee on the Status of Women with a report about women’s exclusion in Israel, at which point Eichler lashed out at them for being “anti-Semites who hate Israel,” adding that the “Reform Jews are worse than our enemies.”

    Committee Chairwoman MK Tzipi Hotovely (Likud) removed him from the meeting over his “unacceptable behavior.”

    MK Eichler told Hotovely that by including Reform Jews in the committee, “she marked herself as an enemy of the Haredi Judaism.” He further threatened that “Hotovely would pay for her actions.”

    The Reform Movement announced that they are planning to file a complaint with the Knesset Ethics Committee over MK Eichler’s “inciting words.”


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    MosheM
    MosheM
    12 years ago

    How right he is!

    berelw
    berelw
    12 years ago

    what an idiot….instead of showing that charaidim are intelligent and can add to society…his behavior demonstrated the opposite….charadim are primitive closeminded out of touch and cannot be taken seriously.

    12 years ago

    This was not the first time this behama was forcibly removed from the Kenesset for his disgusting behavior and demonstration of true sinas chinam. Its unfortunate that the rules of the Knesset do not allow for his expulsion but that is clearly what is necessary.

    qazxc
    qazxc
    12 years ago

    What was he thinking?

    thegabmeister
    thegabmeister
    12 years ago

    Excellent, this is just what we need, such ahavas Yisroel.

    I assume that he does not see the irony in the fact that by exhibiting this level of hatred against his fellow Jews, Semites themselves, irrespective of their level of observance, he has in fact just shown himself to be…that’s right…an Anti-Semite…

    Such sinas chinam worked so beautifully for us 2000 years ago…

    12 years ago

    So not Belz style. I’m surprised at Belz for letting him embarrass them.

    Avreich1
    Avreich1
    12 years ago

    “MK Eichler told Hotovely that by including Reform Jews in the committee, ‘she marked herself as an enemy of the Haredi Judaism.’ He further threatened that ‘Hotovely would pay for her actions.'”

    I was thinking only yesterday that, only in the course of the last twelve months, how much and how sharply the public image of ultra-Orthodox Jewry in Israel has deteriorated.

    It is when an elected representative of the charedi cause makes spiteful and stupid remarks, such as those mentioned in the article, that the overall cause of the charedim suffers – and suffers badly.

    Eichler is no longer an asset to UTJ, but rather a millstone around its corporate neck. Millstones around the neck are a direct cause of drowning.

    12 years ago

    How right he is, israels biggest problem today is not the iranians nor the Palestinians, its the liberal self hating jews, they try to out gentile the gentiles with their israel bashing, which ultimately only creates more jew hatred, which affects these liberal jews as well, you won’t find an anti israel platform that doesn’t have jews on it, be it the ships trying to run the gaza blockade or the “divest from israel” creeps , always us jews, can’t figure this out . As its written מהרסיך ומחרביך ממך יצאו

    eighthcomment
    eighthcomment
    12 years ago

    The reform agenda is anti Gd and His Torah. They will push for things including judaism going down through paternal chains which is dangerous! Why they are NOT considered the extremists boggles my mind!

    harryw
    Member
    harryw
    12 years ago

    All of this makes the satmar rebbe r` yoel zt`l look like a genious. Israel is a loosing proposition and the kneset is one big joke. If there are 5 people on a commite then there is 5 diffrent opinions. What an embarrasment.

    Dovid_from_Modiin
    Dovid_from_Modiin
    12 years ago

    It has long been the policy of the Dati communities world wide not recognizing the reform and conservative “movements”. We do recognize them as individuals Jews.

    Most Israelis don’t believe in the Reform and Conservative movement even if they are not religious and especially those who have not spent any significant time in chul.

    I’m surprise that MK Tzipi Hotovely would sit down with a member of the reform movement representing the movement.

    MK Yisrael Eichler actions were correct but should have made a different and stronger argument why the reform movement should not be included in the committee.

    12 years ago

    Anti-Semites they are not – after all, a significant segment support various pro-Arab initiatives. But anti-Torah and anti-Jewish they most definitely are, and have always been, from their earliest days of defaming Orthodox practices to the German authorities, through their total destruction of American Jewish practice, to their latest initiative to destroy Judaism in Israel. Of course their reasoning is always suited to the flavour of the month and the particular society they have infiltrated, but their ultimate goal has never changed.

    Yisroel
    Yisroel
    12 years ago

    Reply to #2 , #3, #5 , and #6
    The Reform movement has caused so much damage to our people which encourages intermarriage and performs interfaith marriages. They speak and claim to represent all Jews and push the liberal agenda which causes US Jews to be hated in the US. They have damaged Israel and have cost Israeli lives by influencing US politicians that Israel should be forced to make peace with terrorists. The statement made by MK Eichler is more than true and was not strong enough. The Reform are both spititual and physical murders of our people! The Talmud tells us it is a mitzvah to hate the wicked!

    JustThinking
    JustThinking
    12 years ago

    The discussion of being right or wrong is irrelevant
    I’m sure everyone can agree that such a childish reaction is not what will bring all reform Jews back to the mainstream.
    Sometimes I wonder if some of these people actually want the reform Jews to do Teshuva, often it looks like, they are just worried abouttheir political position.
    We have hundreds of thousands of Haredim in Israel, can’t they find a man more suited for this job?

    jewishcat
    jewishcat
    12 years ago

    Haredi Judaism has made itself an enemy of Israel and Jews in general.
    This is certainly not something that was inevitable. Israel badly needs a constitution separating religion and state.
    Many enemies of Jews and Israel really love what the haredi are doing.

    rabbiyisroel
    rabbiyisroel
    12 years ago

    “Reform Movement representatives present the Knesset’s Committee on the Status of Women with a report”
    The reform rep was not on the committee but was presenting a view to a government committee. They have every right to express their views, whether you care for those views or not, to a government committee just like every other citizen.

    Let’s see, Purim is in a few days. Chazal tell us that H-man’s observation that the Jews are mefuzad u’mefurad was a statement revealing the lack of achdus among the Jews. It is the lack of achdus amongst klal Yisroel that enabled him to rise to power.
    Please explain to me how the behavior of MK Eichler or the attitudes so many frum /charedi people have is going to bring Jews who are not aware of the beauty of Torah and mitzvos closer to Hashem? Why would anyone want to be part of something that seethes with ugliness and hatred?
    How about reaching out to those who are far away by demonstrating the beauty of Torah. How about showing Ahavas Chinam toward our less knowledgeable Jewish brothers and sisters?

    sechelyoshor
    sechelyoshor
    12 years ago

    In the Knesset as in other bodies of legislature all around the world, it’s all about who is on the committee. The committee makes important policies, even if they are voted on later. Seeing that an opponent of his views was put on the committee, he was already being told UTJ was not going to have their way, so in he his anger he blasted the person who appointed the people on the committee.

    But really, is that who represents the chareidim in the public forum? Is there no civil way to speak? What a Chillul Hashem! Is that how he talks to people outside the Knesset who do things he doesn’t like? Do y’all think he should get a job in kiruv? I heard Belz has been doing kiruv for years!

    12 years ago

    the real issue is which reform Jews are Jews? some are, many if not most are not. Due to intermarriage rates of up to 70+% ( usually the woman is the goy) many people thinking themselves as being Jewish are not

    12 years ago

    Likutei Amarim, end of Chapter 32

    ומה שכתוב בגמרא שמי שרואה בחבירו שחטא, מצוה לשנאותו, וגם לומר לרבו שישנאהו

    As for the Talmudic statement 1 that if one sees his friend sinning, he should hate him, and should also relate the fact to his teacher so that he too will hate him, — how does this conform with what was said above?

    היינו בחבירו בתורה ומצות

    This applies only to one’s companion — one’s equal— in the study of Torah and the observance of the mitzvot.

    The sinner in question is a Torah-observant scholar, but has lapsed in this one instance. In this case his sin is much more severe than usual, since it is written that even the inadvertent misdeeds of a scholar are as grave as deliberate sins. 2 But even this general assumption of the gravity of his conduct is not sufficient cause to hate him, as the Alter Rebbe continues. Yet another condition must first be satisfied:

    וכבר קיים בו מצות הוכח תוכיח את עמיתך, עם שאתך בתורה ובמצות, ואף על פי כן לא שב מחטאו, כמו שכתוב בספר חרדים

    He has also fulfilled with him — with the sinner — the injunction, 3 “You shall repeatedly rebuke your friend.” The word used here for “your friend” (עמיתך) also indicates, as the Talmud points out4 עם ש

    Dr. E
    Dr. E
    12 years ago

    Before someone like that speaks, he should ask himself whether he would say the same thing after 4 hours of reciting Eicha and Kinos on Tisha B’Av. If in this case the answer is ‘yes’ then we will have many more Tisha B’Avs on the floor.

    Babishka
    Member
    Babishka
    12 years ago

    Absolutely disgusting. I was raised as a Reform Jew. The reason that I left the temple was simply that I found most members indifferent to Judaism, even according to their interpretation. What a terrible thing to say about other Jews.

    12 years ago

    In the past ten years, my family has donated over ten million dollars to Israel. We are reform Jews and proud of it! However, the tides are changing and we will stop the donations as of this month because of everything happening in Israel. Sloan Kettering appreciates our money much more than this group of Israelis does.

    shredready
    shredready
    12 years ago

    let see the reform join the idf and fight for the Israel

    the herdiem do not join the army or even do community service

    who hates Israel

    Member
    12 years ago

    The real problem is that its the older reform jews who are the issue. The young under say 30 you should offer repreive. They do not konw right from wrong and have no Torah Exposure. The older members who in many cases want an easy going atmosphere where they can sit with their wives etc and not be bothered by Torah Law are the issue. And they will fight you until they are dead.

    Buchwalter
    Buchwalter
    12 years ago

    To all you halacha experts and true jews of course the reform Jews are antisemites except Himmler, Heydrich and Eichmann had diffferent thoughts and reform Jews, Bundisten, Yeshiva men and boys all marched into the gas chambers of Birkenau, Treblinka, Sobibor and inhaled Zyklon B [prussic acid] the perfect achdus. A lady named Henrietta Szold organized the Youth Aliyah movement which saved thousand of young boys , some of my friends and the rest of my friends are listed perished by the Yad Vashem. Of course the treifene Tzionym saved their lives. True Yiddishkeit spitting on an an 8 year old, having a meeting with American nAZIS and cursing Israel. You are a bunch of fools. By the way Ms. Szold was a reform Jew. In Buchenwald I would have spat on you.

    Buchwalter
    Buchwalter
    12 years ago

    The gains made by the reform is due to the lack of ahavas yisroel displayed by Orthodox. Spitting on little girls, having a website where Israel is cursed, giving an interview to a German magazine with world wide circulation and cursing Israel, a Jewish website which praises the Iranian premier and on this website you denigrate the President has made orthodoxy to a shmatte or a religous rag

    NotSure
    NotSure
    12 years ago

    And what are simply ‘non religious’ Jews?

    josebar
    josebar
    12 years ago

    Every yid should reform each night before hamapil ,and conserve all the old minhagim ,and reconstruct the original derech hatoreh. I teach reformed jews the are sweet people the are not antisemites chas vesholom only anti Torah and anti Hashem , Besides that they are great

    PMOinFL
    PMOinFL
    12 years ago

    Can we all just agree that “Reform Judaism” is a made-up, phony religion that did not exist (in its current version) before WWII?

    This is ridiculous. “Reform Judaism” is NOT Judaism. It is a laughable joke made up by mostly xian clergy. We should not care what these people think. These are Jews who are practicing a religion that is FAR closer to xianity than to Judaism and we should all be somewhat sickened by how the Reform leadership has suckered Jews into this cult of nonsense.

    I know there are some “Reform” folks who read this, and I’m sorry to say that is the truth. “Reform” is a man-made invention that has NOTHING to do with Judaism. Period. I only wish you find your way to Torah one day.