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Published on: April 1, 2012 08:33 AM
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 American Rabbi Yisrael Dovid Weiss (C), and other members of Neutrei Karta (Orthodox Jews United against Zionism) with Palestinian activists at Beaufort castle in Arnun, Lebanon, 30 March 2012, during a ceremony to mark the annual 'Land Day. Palestinians clashed with Israeli soldiers and police in the West Bank and East Jerusalem on Friday, and one person was reported killed, during protests to mark Land Day, an annual commemoration of the 1976 shooting of six Arab-Israelis.  EPA/HASSAN BAHSOUN American Rabbi Yisrael Dovid Weiss (C), and other members of Neutrei Karta (Orthodox Jews United against Zionism) with Palestinian activists at Beaufort castle in Arnun, Lebanon, 30 March 2012, during a ceremony to mark the annual 'Land Day. Palestinians clashed with Israeli soldiers and police in the West Bank and East Jerusalem on Friday, and one person was reported killed, during protests to mark Land Day, an annual commemoration of the 1976 shooting of six Arab-Israelis.  EPA/HASSAN BAHSOUN

Jordan - The anti-Zionist Neturei Karta found out what can happen when it joins Arabs against Israel. They were beaten but escaped injuries.

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Neturei Karta is a small fringe sect that attracts much publicity from wire service photographers, following its activities from the United States to Iran in its campaign against the establishment of the State of Israel. The sect’s hassidic dress makes it easy to generalize and make them seem more important than they are.

The Jordanian Arabs scuffled with the anti-Zionist and pro-Palestinian Authority Neturei Karta members in the Global March on Jerusalem rally. No one was injured.


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 Apr 01, 2012 at 08:36 AM woofer Says:

Too bad.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 08:40 AM Dave Says:

Amazing!!

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 08:44 AM anon1m0us Says:

B'H someone finally gave them the well deserved beating!

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 08:45 AM Anonymous Says:

Hahahahaha! Hope this report wasn't an April fools joke!

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 08:47 AM kingizzy Says:

Haha that is awesome.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:09 AM Laytzunay-Hador Says:

If you stick your head into the alligator's mouth often enough eventually it will get bitten

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:11 AM grandson1 Says:

I am just sorry that they weren't beaten into comas these idiots. You got some of what you deserved.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:22 AM Shlomtzy Says:

Hard to feel sorry for them. Working on my yetzer hara not to laugh at this.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:27 AM avraham Says:

it's a shame they didn't castrate them

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:27 AM Anonymous Says:

Maybe they will think twice before joining hands with the wicked. The Satmar Rebbe was against the medina but would never join hands with goyim to destroy the medina.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:37 AM mythoughts Says:

Ahhh. Early afikomen present.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:46 AM Pollard Says:

Reply to #8  
Shlomtzy Says:

Hard to feel sorry for them. Working on my yetzer hara not to laugh at this.

If you feel sorry for Pollard you can feel sorry for them to

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:47 AM berelw Says:

these guys should be on the FBI/CIA watch list...and on the no fly list...these guys are ill, and are probably capable of somrthing stupid...

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:51 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
anon1m0us Says:

B'H someone finally gave them the well deserved beating!

why is it well-deserved?

I don't agree with them whatsoever, but they are well-intentioned, although completely, 100% misguided. But what kind of person are you to encourage and applaud beatings of ANY Jews by Arabs?

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults. They are sincere but misguided. Why do you get so happy when they are beaten up or killed? Why do you commenters request that they be castrated?

Do you do the same when you come across a "Jew for Jesus"? Or are just so brave to only criticize from afar, in the comfort of your own home and under the umbrella of posting anonymously?

They are wrong in their ideology.

YOU are wrong in your sinas chinom.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:52 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
grandson1 Says:

I am just sorry that they weren't beaten into comas these idiots. You got some of what you deserved.

And wrong as they are, why do they "deserve" this? Why do they deserve to be beaten into comas?

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:56 AM Anonymous Says:

How do you know that these nk guys are not Cia operatives. They seem t have more guts than most Jews.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:00 AM Mendy Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

why is it well-deserved?

I don't agree with them whatsoever, but they are well-intentioned, although completely, 100% misguided. But what kind of person are you to encourage and applaud beatings of ANY Jews by Arabs?

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults. They are sincere but misguided. Why do you get so happy when they are beaten up or killed? Why do you commenters request that they be castrated?

Do you do the same when you come across a "Jew for Jesus"? Or are just so brave to only criticize from afar, in the comfort of your own home and under the umbrella of posting anonymously?

They are wrong in their ideology.

YOU are wrong in your sinas chinom.

The reason this is so much worse, is because of the chillul Hashem.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:09 AM savtat Says:

As I see it, they are guilty of hate crimes against the Jews. I watched them burn an Israeli flag for Purim fun. I don't think we should be tolerant of them. They are out to destroy us.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:30 AM rebbe123 Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

Maybe they will think twice before joining hands with the wicked. The Satmar Rebbe was against the medina but would never join hands with goyim to destroy the medina.

How old ru if I may ask? And how close were with thge satmar rav zatzal that u know exactly what he held? But the fact of the matter is that in the 1950's the rebbe himself organized a mass demonstration in D.C. Specifically against the so called state of Israel

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:32 AM FarvusNisht Says:

Our fellow brothers;
Keep up! You are the few being mekadash shem shumayim..
You won't be hurt.
Keep up... You are saving thousands of lives,
Don't fall for the negative Zionists, and all self hating Jews who will soon post their stupid racial comments on this website....
They all know behind their minds who is responsible for all the deaths and terror attacks on our nation....
The zionists ym"s

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:36 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

why is it well-deserved?

I don't agree with them whatsoever, but they are well-intentioned, although completely, 100% misguided. But what kind of person are you to encourage and applaud beatings of ANY Jews by Arabs?

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults. They are sincere but misguided. Why do you get so happy when they are beaten up or killed? Why do you commenters request that they be castrated?

Do you do the same when you come across a "Jew for Jesus"? Or are just so brave to only criticize from afar, in the comfort of your own home and under the umbrella of posting anonymously?

They are wrong in their ideology.

YOU are wrong in your sinas chinom.

Your last line must be an April first joke other wise, your saying "YOU are wrong in your sinas chinom" is by far the most twisted statement I read in a long time .Now let me see, here we have people who claim to be frum Jewish ,they dress like frum Jewish they joined hands with ANIMALS WHO WANT TO KILL EVERY JEW IN ISRAEL and YOU are saying "sinas chinam"at these end.while you are cleaning chometz out of your house etc. clean your way of thinking .KOSHER L'PEASACH TO YOU AND TO KLALA ISROEAL AMEN.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:38 AM Who Needs Enemies? Says:

(Reply to #15): The only one who is misguided, #15, is sadly, YOU. By equating those who actively seek and support the destruction of Israel and the murder of Jews with those whose philosophy simply does not match your own, you have proven how sorely lacking in values and judgment you are. You may not agree with atheists, Agnostics, cult members, etc., but they do not intend to cause you physical harm, would never promote murdering innocent people, nor would they rejoice and find comfort in your demise. Neturai Karta members, on the other hand, proclaim their hatred of their own people to the world, and encourage the enemies of Israel to pursue its destruction. Yes, they are mentally ill, but that does not preclude their being dangerous to others. Get it, #15?

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:40 AM shredready Says:

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults

because the others still love Jews and do not associate will killer and go to killers graves

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:46 AM grandson1 Says:

Reply to #13  
Pollard Says:

If you feel sorry for Pollard you can feel sorry for them to

are you really that sick comparing these traitors of the Jewish people with Pollard? You really need a lot of professional help. Please get it.

26

 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:52 AM Torahjew Says:

Hey the arabs r good for something down with those nk fools

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:52 AM Normal Says:

One day they will realize that the Arabs hate them as much as the other Jews.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:52 AM tootired Says:

These punks CELEBRATE when Jews are killed in suicide bombings, just like Arabs. So, no, they are not simply misguided. They are EVIL, and we should pray for their downfall as we would for any of our enemies.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:58 AM Anonymous Says:

I wonder if they'll figure out who their people are NOW.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:01 AM Gefilte Fish Says:

These guys are always busy saying that the arabs don't hate jews, only zionists, this proves otherwise.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:09 AM ALTERG Says:

Reply to #18  
Mendy Says:

The reason this is so much worse, is because of the chillul Hashem.

Witch chilul hashem is involved here? Pls explain. & the so-called isreal is not the biggest chilul hasham & desecrating hasham's name?

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:11 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

why is it well-deserved?

I don't agree with them whatsoever, but they are well-intentioned, although completely, 100% misguided. But what kind of person are you to encourage and applaud beatings of ANY Jews by Arabs?

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults. They are sincere but misguided. Why do you get so happy when they are beaten up or killed? Why do you commenters request that they be castrated?

Do you do the same when you come across a "Jew for Jesus"? Or are just so brave to only criticize from afar, in the comfort of your own home and under the umbrella of posting anonymously?

They are wrong in their ideology.

YOU are wrong in your sinas chinom.

They would fall under Din Rodef and executed in the times of the Sanhedrin, they are not Jews. Just because they wear an outfit and have a beard does not make them Jew's, its their soul (Neshama) and they have a treif Neshama. True many many in today's world are mislead or unlearned and we can not blame them, we can only try to bring them closer. Push them away with our left hand but pull them in with our right hand.

These NK (how appropriate the are the initials) want to see the Medina destroyed. Whether you agree with it or not, the Medina is Hashem's tool to protect us in this world. If you want to change the medina go ahead and get involved to change I am sure that is what Hashem wants, he wants us to rise to the occasion and be worthy of the Messiah coming but thru Kiruv and not Sinat Hinam which is what they preach and advocate dont be fooled by the Satan just because he dresses frum. You don't ever put your fellow Jews in harms way. You don't go to your enemy and help them uproot the Medina if you dont agreemove out of Israel and close your eyes to the miracles that Hashem does everyday in Eretz Yisrael wheter we deserve it or not.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:14 AM neturie karta Says:

1 day youl see the netura karta members will be hung up in public in IRAN for revenge from achmanijahd for israel striking on their nuclear plants...

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:19 AM bystander Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

why is it well-deserved?

I don't agree with them whatsoever, but they are well-intentioned, although completely, 100% misguided. But what kind of person are you to encourage and applaud beatings of ANY Jews by Arabs?

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults. They are sincere but misguided. Why do you get so happy when they are beaten up or killed? Why do you commenters request that they be castrated?

Do you do the same when you come across a "Jew for Jesus"? Or are just so brave to only criticize from afar, in the comfort of your own home and under the umbrella of posting anonymously?

They are wrong in their ideology.

YOU are wrong in your sinas chinom.

You sound pretty intelligent. However, your quote is as misguided as you assume the NKs are. How do you compare joining hands with a people that have a doctrine of "kill every Jew" to a jew for j-s who is spiritually lost? These sickos are strengthening the bloody hands of murderers of Jewish men women and children. Sorry, but guilty by association. They served notice on the Jewish society that they are one and the same with the murderers, and therefore rightfully deserve any punishment reserved for these terrorist, even murder, "haboh lehorgoch hashkem lehorgo" and death is pretty mild. B"H this was done by their own kind, Arabs, and not by Yidden but of course we have a right to rejoice, they asked for it they got it... Again, spiritual misguidance is way different from joining a band of outright murderers..........

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:43 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
Mendy Says:

The reason this is so much worse, is because of the chillul Hashem.

That's a good one: those (nutters) opposing the medina (something that many of the greatest poskim would agree with) are worse that a J for J because of the hillul Hashem involved! You must have some weird poskim on your side that would rather support a J for J than the NKs.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:47 AM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #17  
Anonymous Says:

How do you know that these nk guys are not Cia operatives. They seem t have more guts than most Jews.

No. My concern is, (and I think Ahmadinejad's security guys share that concern) that one day, a Mossad agent will slip in among them and do a number on Ahmadi.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:51 AM kingizzy Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

why is it well-deserved?

I don't agree with them whatsoever, but they are well-intentioned, although completely, 100% misguided. But what kind of person are you to encourage and applaud beatings of ANY Jews by Arabs?

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults. They are sincere but misguided. Why do you get so happy when they are beaten up or killed? Why do you commenters request that they be castrated?

Do you do the same when you come across a "Jew for Jesus"? Or are just so brave to only criticize from afar, in the comfort of your own home and under the umbrella of posting anonymously?

They are wrong in their ideology.

YOU are wrong in your sinas chinom.

Do me a favor pal...look who is posting anonomously

38

 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:53 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
rebbe123 Says:

How old ru if I may ask? And how close were with thge satmar rav zatzal that u know exactly what he held? But the fact of the matter is that in the 1950's the rebbe himself organized a mass demonstration in D.C. Specifically against the so called state of Israel

Yenne Rebbe. What do you know smart rebbe? NO! The satmere rebbe זצוק"ל never went together with the arabs to protest against the Zionists. In fact, he called off a major demonstration when it seemed like he's going togeteher with the arabs.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:56 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #34  
bystander Says:

You sound pretty intelligent. However, your quote is as misguided as you assume the NKs are. How do you compare joining hands with a people that have a doctrine of "kill every Jew" to a jew for j-s who is spiritually lost? These sickos are strengthening the bloody hands of murderers of Jewish men women and children. Sorry, but guilty by association. They served notice on the Jewish society that they are one and the same with the murderers, and therefore rightfully deserve any punishment reserved for these terrorist, even murder, "haboh lehorgoch hashkem lehorgo" and death is pretty mild. B"H this was done by their own kind, Arabs, and not by Yidden but of course we have a right to rejoice, they asked for it they got it... Again, spiritual misguidance is way different from joining a band of outright murderers..........

How would you reconcile your ramblings with yasir arafat shaking hands with rabin, all israeli pm's shaking hands with german pm's and israeli cheif rabbi's shaking hands with the popes of rome!? I'm sure you can come up with some logic, So can the NK's that wont help would it?

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:58 AM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #20  
rebbe123 Says:

How old ru if I may ask? And how close were with thge satmar rav zatzal that u know exactly what he held? But the fact of the matter is that in the 1950's the rebbe himself organized a mass demonstration in D.C. Specifically against the so called state of Israel

He did. Because the non-religious population in Israel did some outrageous things even from a human point of view, against the religious Jews. But, he never, ever permitted his Chassidim (Never mind encourage them) to join ideologically or politically with any non-Jewish faction or group.
p.s.: The old Satmar Rebbi Zt"l had a very clear ideology with strong principles, but in time the clarity of those principles was diluted and some of his words were twisted by various groups to serve their own agenda.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 11:59 AM what-can-we-do Says:

this is part of the price for making a chilel hashem

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:00 PM ses2000 Says:

B"H nothing happen, its only bec. The MESEROS NAFESH and the KEDESH HASHAM that they are making, we need to support them, they are doing our job and only bec. Them HASHAM help,
I could only say for that holy friends "keep up the holy work"

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:03 PM clear-thinker Says:

Reply to #31  
ALTERG Says:

Witch chilul hashem is involved here? Pls explain. & the so-called isreal is not the biggest chilul hasham & desecrating hasham's name?

If you wrote in English on this site you would be even scarier. In my opinion, and unlike your posts I do not believe I have a direct line to hashem,...the biggest chilul hashem is not Israel, but you,

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:10 PM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #28  
tootired Says:

These punks CELEBRATE when Jews are killed in suicide bombings, just like Arabs. So, no, they are not simply misguided. They are EVIL, and we should pray for their downfall as we would for any of our enemies.

To be honest, they (NK) never, ever gloated (At least publicly) over Jewish deaths by the arabs. That doesn't make their kissing up to the arab terrorists any less evil. But, their acts are more foolish than vicious.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:12 PM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #30  
Gefilte Fish Says:

These guys are always busy saying that the arabs don't hate jews, only zionists, this proves otherwise.

Proves, to whom?! We, never needed any (additional) proof. They have an agenda and a simple beating will not disabuse them of their false notion.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:20 PM CH. S Says:

the jewish Kapo's yemach shemom,when they were colaborating with the Nazi's
and helping them in the gassing and burning of their brothers and sisters,they also thought that this will save their own lives,but in the end they also were sent to the gas chambers.
These criminaly insane traitorous pieces of human garbage,also thought that by licking the feet of these murderous arab animals they would be spared,well guess what,it didn't help a bit,it is just too bad that they only got a good beating,these gangsters should have been beheaded,hopefuly next time they will show up in solidarity with these Arabs they will finish the job of "IBIARTO HARAH MIKURBECHA"

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:20 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
Gefilte Fish Says:

These guys are always busy saying that the arabs don't hate jews, only zionists, this proves otherwise.

they will say that the Arabs only hate Jews because of Zionism, and that it is the fault of the Zionists that they were attacked.

48

 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:23 PM 45128 Says:

Reply to #13  
Pollard Says:

If you feel sorry for Pollard you can feel sorry for them to

You can if you wish; after all, it's a free country.

But Pollard is a traitor who sold - yes, SOLD - American naval secrets to the highest bidder. Israel was not his first choice as a customer: he had tried the South Africans and the Australians first, but they smelled a rat for who he was.

As for Neturei Karta they are beneath all consideration as human beings and as Jews. Yes, I know that description has been used before in our life times, but it just happens to be correct in this case.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:49 PM schwartzi Says:

no hes not. i feel the same way.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:49 PM AnonN Says:

Reply to #20  
rebbe123 Says:

How old ru if I may ask? And how close were with thge satmar rav zatzal that u know exactly what he held? But the fact of the matter is that in the 1950's the rebbe himself organized a mass demonstration in D.C. Specifically against the so called state of Israel

we know what the satmar rebbe held because he wrote down his opinions in his sefer vayoel moshe. I dont need to personally know someone to know their opinions, if they are written down.I never met Rashi either, am i not allowed to quote Rashi on chumash?
As anti zionist as he was, he clearly states that Jews should not join with goyim who are anti zionists, as all non jewish anti zionism is really just a cover for anti semitism.
Thats why although satmar is against the state of israel, you never see them protesting with goyim.
In regards to the demonstration, that was a jewish demonstration, which is exactly the point.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:54 PM schwartzi Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

why is it well-deserved?

I don't agree with them whatsoever, but they are well-intentioned, although completely, 100% misguided. But what kind of person are you to encourage and applaud beatings of ANY Jews by Arabs?

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults. They are sincere but misguided. Why do you get so happy when they are beaten up or killed? Why do you commenters request that they be castrated?

Do you do the same when you come across a "Jew for Jesus"? Or are just so brave to only criticize from afar, in the comfort of your own home and under the umbrella of posting anonymously?

They are wrong in their ideology.

YOU are wrong in your sinas chinom.

NO! you are wrong! this is not sinas chinom. these reshaim DESERVE the worst. They are the BIGGEST chillel hashem that the world has seen! They are not mis guided.they are reshaiim! against hashem and his torah,.
mis guided means the person is unlearned,and a shoigeg,these people are are a maazid.
They know exactly what they are doing.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 12:57 PM schwartzi Says:

Reply to #28  
tootired Says:

These punks CELEBRATE when Jews are killed in suicide bombings, just like Arabs. So, no, they are not simply misguided. They are EVIL, and we should pray for their downfall as we would for any of our enemies.

omein!

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 01:00 PM schwartzi Says:

Reply to #26  
Torahjew Says:

Hey the arabs r good for something down with those nk fools

they dont even deserve to be buried in a jewish cemetery!

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 01:01 PM yaakov doe Says:

It was the hand of Hashem, a warning to theose nuts.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 01:19 PM Bobover Says:

I care very little what anyone thinks but i'm planning on making a little lechayim. Hopefully we'll be hearing more of these kinds of stories in the near future. Oh and next time pls do the full job. Many thanks.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 01:19 PM rebbe123 Says:

Reply to #40  
bigwheeel Says:

He did. Because the non-religious population in Israel did some outrageous things even from a human point of view, against the religious Jews. But, he never, ever permitted his Chassidim (Never mind encourage them) to join ideologically or politically with any non-Jewish faction or group.
p.s.: The old Satmar Rebbi Zt"l had a very clear ideology with strong principles, but in time the clarity of those principles was diluted and some of his words were twisted by various groups to serve their own agenda.

Nothing can b twisted because everything is clearly written in his holy sefer Vayoel Moshe and in the Al hageule Veal hatmura he always ordered by every protest to write that its against the government not the geziros

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 01:45 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #56  
rebbe123 Says:

Nothing can b twisted because everything is clearly written in his holy sefer Vayoel Moshe and in the Al hageule Veal hatmura he always ordered by every protest to write that its against the government not the geziros

yes but he would not protest together with goyim. he was against the government from a religious perspective (that it is an issur to have a medinah before Moshiach, whether religious or not) and the arabs are against it from a political perspective (although they also have some religion involved in this, it is a different religion and has nothing to do with us). He taught that a big problem with the Medinah is that it makes the arabs upset, but still he did not say to work together with them. He suggested to turn to the UN to find a peaceful way to end the Jewish state without bloodshed, which is the NK view as well, only they say to go directly to the Arabs and not to have to work through the UN.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 02:41 PM It's a 'Psik Resha' Says:

Reply to #56  
rebbe123 Says:

Nothing can b twisted because everything is clearly written in his holy sefer Vayoel Moshe and in the Al hageule Veal hatmura he always ordered by every protest to write that its against the government not the geziros

Anyone who makes a Shevuah that he will Shecht the Chicken but the Chicken will remain alive - will get malkus right away, even before he starts because it's a Psik resha and a Shvuas Shov - an impossibility.

Likewise Chazal say that anyone who davens that his pregnant wife should give birth to a Baby Boy (instead of a Girl) and it's after a certain number of days where bederech hateva it can't happen, it is a Tefilas Shov.

There will; always be those who will seek to clime up a strait Wall but as Chazal say "Atu Beshuftene Askinan"?

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 02:36 PM manwith1leg Says:

Reply to #21  
FarvusNisht Says:

Our fellow brothers;
Keep up! You are the few being mekadash shem shumayim..
You won't be hurt.
Keep up... You are saving thousands of lives,
Don't fall for the negative Zionists, and all self hating Jews who will soon post their stupid racial comments on this website....
They all know behind their minds who is responsible for all the deaths and terror attacks on our nation....
The zionists ym"s

I can't believe you are being serious. They are the worst type of rosho around. Mechallel Shem Shomayim Bfarhesyah. They are Roidfim joining hands with those who wish to kill EVERY LAST YID. Read the koran. Its not about kicking the Yidden out of the land they want to kill us. The Medinah has many problems but these Reshoim have no chelek in Oilom Habo.
Please don't be like them

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 02:33 PM Why was it "Well Deserved" Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

why is it well-deserved?

I don't agree with them whatsoever, but they are well-intentioned, although completely, 100% misguided. But what kind of person are you to encourage and applaud beatings of ANY Jews by Arabs?

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults. They are sincere but misguided. Why do you get so happy when they are beaten up or killed? Why do you commenters request that they be castrated?

Do you do the same when you come across a "Jew for Jesus"? Or are just so brave to only criticize from afar, in the comfort of your own home and under the umbrella of posting anonymously?

They are wrong in their ideology.

YOU are wrong in your sinas chinom.

Anyones who is a TRAITOR and collaborates with "the enemy", who is sworn to Kill Yidden, is no different than the enemy himself.

They are all Guilty of TREASON and every country rewards those who are guilty of Treason, with what they well deserve.

When the handful of Murderers, drove their planes in to the Twin Towers, no one argued with what President Bush then said that:

"We will make no difference between the Terrorists themselves and those who enable them, empower them or harbor them or support them in any way".

These TRAITORS are openly and directly giving the utmost support to those who practice daily murder against Yidden and who pledge to do even more murder each subsequent day, Chas Vesholom.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 02:27 PM esther Says:

hmm.these rashaim got a little kaporah for all there tremendous chilul Hasem.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 02:57 PM ayinglefunadorf Says:

Reply to #32  
Anonymous Says:

They would fall under Din Rodef and executed in the times of the Sanhedrin, they are not Jews. Just because they wear an outfit and have a beard does not make them Jew's, its their soul (Neshama) and they have a treif Neshama. True many many in today's world are mislead or unlearned and we can not blame them, we can only try to bring them closer. Push them away with our left hand but pull them in with our right hand.

These NK (how appropriate the are the initials) want to see the Medina destroyed. Whether you agree with it or not, the Medina is Hashem's tool to protect us in this world. If you want to change the medina go ahead and get involved to change I am sure that is what Hashem wants, he wants us to rise to the occasion and be worthy of the Messiah coming but thru Kiruv and not Sinat Hinam which is what they preach and advocate dont be fooled by the Satan just because he dresses frum. You don't ever put your fellow Jews in harms way. You don't go to your enemy and help them uproot the Medina if you dont agreemove out of Israel and close your eyes to the miracles that Hashem does everyday in Eretz Yisrael wheter we deserve it or not.

"They are not jews" Israeli Presidents kissed Arafat, Yakov ovinu kissed Esov. I get the idea that if someone dressed orthodox you have a problem. Only reform jews are kosher.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 02:59 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #55  
Bobover Says:

I care very little what anyone thinks but i'm planning on making a little lechayim. Hopefully we'll be hearing more of these kinds of stories in the near future. Oh and next time pls do the full job. Many thanks.

No Bobever i know wishes bad for frumme yidden. You are more likely reform they are the only ones against orthodoxy.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 03:02 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
Gefilte Fish Says:

These guys are always busy saying that the arabs don't hate jews, only zionists, this proves otherwise.

Maybe the arabs do hate yews, much less than the Christians, Hitler,Spanish Inqusition,Russian progroms etc

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 03:05 PM shmueldov Says:

Reply to #1  
woofer Says:

Too bad.

I hope by that you mean, too bad there were no injuties

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 03:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #51  
schwartzi Says:

NO! you are wrong! this is not sinas chinom. these reshaim DESERVE the worst. They are the BIGGEST chillel hashem that the world has seen! They are not mis guided.they are reshaiim! against hashem and his torah,.
mis guided means the person is unlearned,and a shoigeg,these people are are a maazid.
They know exactly what they are doing.

Yakov Ovinu kissed Esow. Thats was alsow Chilul Hashem? The arabs were our friend for centuries, not like the Christians they were killing us for thousands of years.Kissing up to them, voting for them against a yid is Chilul Hashem

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 03:08 PM Mordechai_Ben_Yaakov Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

why is it well-deserved?

I don't agree with them whatsoever, but they are well-intentioned, although completely, 100% misguided. But what kind of person are you to encourage and applaud beatings of ANY Jews by Arabs?

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults. They are sincere but misguided. Why do you get so happy when they are beaten up or killed? Why do you commenters request that they be castrated?

Do you do the same when you come across a "Jew for Jesus"? Or are just so brave to only criticize from afar, in the comfort of your own home and under the umbrella of posting anonymously?

They are wrong in their ideology.

YOU are wrong in your sinas chinom.

Yashir koyach! We should all be mispallel for the safety of the NK activists. We should also be mispallel that they soften their hearts towards other yidden and recognize that their behavior and positions result in the loss of holy Jewish neshomos.

Like Satmar, Toldos Aharon, and others, you can oppose the medina without placing Jewish lives in jeopardy. By lending credibility to the Haman of our times, Ahmedinejad, NK puts each of us in jeopardy.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 03:21 PM ayinglefunadorf Says:

Reply to #59  
manwith1leg Says:

I can't believe you are being serious. They are the worst type of rosho around. Mechallel Shem Shomayim Bfarhesyah. They are Roidfim joining hands with those who wish to kill EVERY LAST YID. Read the koran. Its not about kicking the Yidden out of the land they want to kill us. The Medinah has many problems but these Reshoim have no chelek in Oilom Habo.
Please don't be like them

Read the koran" The arabs are not the ones who are killing us by the millions in the last two thousand years. the christians you vote for are. if you are orthodox or at least conservative and pray on Tisha Beav and read about the holocaust you would understand this

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 03:25 PM Bobover Says:

Reply to #63  
Anonymous Says:

No Bobever i know wishes bad for frumme yidden. You are more likely reform they are the only ones against orthodoxy.

You call those maniacs frum people?! There are a bunch of deluded people who go around and disgrace the thing called frum! Those people deserve nothing short of misah. If there ppl are what we call frum jews then i'm really embarrased to be called frum.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 03:30 PM ayinglefunadorf Says:

In the same page on WINs "Rabbi Elazar killer admits stabbing" there is 3 comments. Here there are dozens of haters for an orthodox frum yid who peacfully opposes the State of Israel. What a Sinas Chinom.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 03:48 PM Zeidy Says:

Now I understand why they threw bin Ladin in the water So they could not go to his grave

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 04:08 PM OnlyMe Says:

Reply to #13  
Pollard Says:

If you feel sorry for Pollard you can feel sorry for them to

Pollard spied to HELP Israel and the Jews living there. His motives don't matter. These guys hug, kiss and stand with people that want to kill all Jews and destroy mokomei Kodesh in Israel. Why do you put the two together?

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 04:15 PM OnlyMe Says:

Reply to #21  
FarvusNisht Says:

Our fellow brothers;
Keep up! You are the few being mekadash shem shumayim..
You won't be hurt.
Keep up... You are saving thousands of lives,
Don't fall for the negative Zionists, and all self hating Jews who will soon post their stupid racial comments on this website....
They all know behind their minds who is responsible for all the deaths and terror attacks on our nation....
The zionists ym"s

If you agree with them about this, do you also agree with the NK when they deny 6 million were killed in WWII? Personally, I spit on those who deny my family's suffering and loss. As far as I'm concern, the NK were taught the lesson that they Arabs hate ALL Jews.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 04:30 PM manwith1leg Says:

Reply to #68  
ayinglefunadorf Says:

Read the koran" The arabs are not the ones who are killing us by the millions in the last two thousand years. the christians you vote for are. if you are orthodox or at least conservative and pray on Tisha Beav and read about the holocaust you would understand this

hadith al bukhari 4:17:176 "the end times will not come until you fight the jews. they will hide behind the trees and the rocks. then the trees and the rocks will proclaim oh muslim oh servant of g-d there is a jew behind me come and kill him."

no one is denying the fact that the christians did us extensive damage over the years but there are no roidfim holding hands with them, kissing them or visiting the kvorim of their worst murderers.

right now the muslims want to kill us whether we have the holy land of israel or not

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 05:11 PM Not zionist but charedi Says:

Do some people really think it's sinas chinom to wish for these idiots to suffer a slow and painful death?! These reshaim are the worst. There is only one thing that hashem doesn't forgive and that is chillul hashem. I wish on them every kellola i could think of.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 06:41 PM Benny Says:

What a low lives!

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 06:51 PM common-sense Says:

Reply to #40  
bigwheeel Says:

He did. Because the non-religious population in Israel did some outrageous things even from a human point of view, against the religious Jews. But, he never, ever permitted his Chassidim (Never mind encourage them) to join ideologically or politically with any non-Jewish faction or group.
p.s.: The old Satmar Rebbi Zt"l had a very clear ideology with strong principles, but in time the clarity of those principles was diluted and some of his words were twisted by various groups to serve their own agenda.

In fact, he said that, although he is against the Medina because of the Zionist philosohpy, he also said that any non-Jew who is against the State of Israel is an anti-Semite. So, the NKs, according to the Rebbe, zatzal, are joining with anti-Semites. They are therefore Rodfim.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 06:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #56  
rebbe123 Says:

Nothing can b twisted because everything is clearly written in his holy sefer Vayoel Moshe and in the Al hageule Veal hatmura he always ordered by every protest to write that its against the government not the geziros

It is obvious that you have not read either Sefer because it does not say that in his Seforim

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 06:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #42  
ses2000 Says:

B"H nothing happen, its only bec. The MESEROS NAFESH and the KEDESH HASHAM that they are making, we need to support them, they are doing our job and only bec. Them HASHAM help,
I could only say for that holy friends "keep up the holy work"

So, joining with anti-Semites is holy work. What a twisted philosohpy. RabYoelish has to be turning over in his grave seeing how his alleged followers have twisted his Hashkofo.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 06:59 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #66  
Anonymous Says:

Yakov Ovinu kissed Esow. Thats was alsow Chilul Hashem? The arabs were our friend for centuries, not like the Christians they were killing us for thousands of years.Kissing up to them, voting for them against a yid is Chilul Hashem

When were the Arabs our friends? You are totally ignorant.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 07:51 PM common-sense Says:

Reply to #66  
Anonymous Says:

Yakov Ovinu kissed Esow. Thats was alsow Chilul Hashem? The arabs were our friend for centuries, not like the Christians they were killing us for thousands of years.Kissing up to them, voting for them against a yid is Chilul Hashem

The Arabs were our friends? Not only is your philosophy twisted, you are an Am
Ho'oretz. One of the Kinos we say on Tisha B'Av laments the fact that when we were exiled from Eretz Yisroel and we were thirsty, the Arabs offered Jews water. However, they put so much salt in the water, that it caused the Jews to die. In other words, the Kinos teach us, the Arabs sometimes pretend to be our friends, but really want to kill us. This could only come as a surprise to an Am Ho'oretz like you who does not realize that the Torah calls them "Pere Odom."
You can also read what the Rambam writes about the Arabs, and what they did to him and his family. And could you explain why our "friends" the Arabs, murdered every Bochur in the Chevron Yeshiva in '1929, before there was a Medina.
Why don't you learn and become knowledgeable instead of blogging ignorance and shtus.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 07:53 PM Pollard Says:

Reply to #72  
OnlyMe Says:

Pollard spied to HELP Israel and the Jews living there. His motives don't matter. These guys hug, kiss and stand with people that want to kill all Jews and destroy mokomei Kodesh in Israel. Why do you put the two together?

Doesn't matter for whom he spied it matters on whom he spied he just sold us USA citizens out that's our country till Moshiach Tzidkinei will come. Don't get me wrong NT are crazy sickos but to be happy when they get beaten up? No

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 08:08 PM ayinglefunadorf Says:

Reply to #69  
Bobover Says:

You call those maniacs frum people?! There are a bunch of deluded people who go around and disgrace the thing called frum! Those people deserve nothing short of misah. If there ppl are what we call frum jews then i'm really embarrased to be called frum.

No need to be embarressed you are not frum. Frum people dont wish other frum people bad

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 08:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #78  
common-sense Says:

In fact, he said that, although he is against the Medina because of the Zionist philosohpy, he also said that any non-Jew who is against the State of Israel is an anti-Semite. So, the NKs, according to the Rebbe, zatzal, are joining with anti-Semites. They are therefore Rodfim.

Did it ever cross your mind that when a leader of any Jewish group ,when he is not a maletz yosher of the Jewish people like Moshe Rabeinu , and the Bardecher rav .But rather very critical of the Jewish people , then it is not surprising what is going on between Williamsburg"s rebbe and Monroe's rebbe.DO NOT FORGET WHAT CAUSED THE DISTRUCTIONS OF BOTH BEIS MEKADASHES .HAVE A GOOD PESACH.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 09:40 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #73  
OnlyMe Says:

If you agree with them about this, do you also agree with the NK when they deny 6 million were killed in WWII? Personally, I spit on those who deny my family's suffering and loss. As far as I'm concern, the NK were taught the lesson that they Arabs hate ALL Jews.

They dont deny the holocaust - read their website - they went to the holocaust denial conference and said the deniers are wrong and the holocaust really did happen

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:01 PM ayinglefunadorf Says:

Reply to #82  
common-sense Says:

The Arabs were our friends? Not only is your philosophy twisted, you are an Am
Ho'oretz. One of the Kinos we say on Tisha B'Av laments the fact that when we were exiled from Eretz Yisroel and we were thirsty, the Arabs offered Jews water. However, they put so much salt in the water, that it caused the Jews to die. In other words, the Kinos teach us, the Arabs sometimes pretend to be our friends, but really want to kill us. This could only come as a surprise to an Am Ho'oretz like you who does not realize that the Torah calls them "Pere Odom."
You can also read what the Rambam writes about the Arabs, and what they did to him and his family. And could you explain why our "friends" the Arabs, murdered every Bochur in the Chevron Yeshiva in '1929, before there was a Medina.
Why don't you learn and become knowledgeable instead of blogging ignorance and shtus.

Maybe you forgot to learn the Talmud (Babylonian) where we went in exile todays Iraq and the entire foundation of our heritage. If you would lear Daf Yomi you would have to thank them for allowing our sages in their land and flourish. I cant tell why did the arabs murdered bochurim in Chevron 1929 or why in america they killed a bochur on the street thousands of americans chanting kill the jew. but you need to learn the rest of the Kinos to understand what the christians did to us for thousands of years. So relativly speaking the arabs are better to us than the christians. Much much better

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:25 PM clear-thinker Says:

Reply to #82  
common-sense Says:

The Arabs were our friends? Not only is your philosophy twisted, you are an Am
Ho'oretz. One of the Kinos we say on Tisha B'Av laments the fact that when we were exiled from Eretz Yisroel and we were thirsty, the Arabs offered Jews water. However, they put so much salt in the water, that it caused the Jews to die. In other words, the Kinos teach us, the Arabs sometimes pretend to be our friends, but really want to kill us. This could only come as a surprise to an Am Ho'oretz like you who does not realize that the Torah calls them "Pere Odom."
You can also read what the Rambam writes about the Arabs, and what they did to him and his family. And could you explain why our "friends" the Arabs, murdered every Bochur in the Chevron Yeshiva in '1929, before there was a Medina.
Why don't you learn and become knowledgeable instead of blogging ignorance and shtus.

Do you think your last sentence needs an answer? The nk apologists care for only one thing. The destruction of Israel. They stand with holocaust deniers, anti semites and anyone else who hates Israel. There sole function is to state that Israel is responsible for everything bad in the world dating back to pro medina days. Their ignorance and shtus must remain since that is all they have.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:25 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
Mendy Says:

The reason this is so much worse, is because of the chillul Hashem.

Really? And what exactly is the chilul Hashem, in your mind?

Is it a chilul Hasem like setting a family's house on fire because they davened where they want to? Is it a chilul Hashem like pedophiles who are Rabbonim? Is it a chilul hashem like a meat company owner who pretends to act frum and commits felonies? Is it a chilul Hashem like a murderer of little boys?

Why aren't you wishing THEM into comas? and who made you the sheriff in charge of avenging what you believe to be chilul Hashems?

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:27 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #19  
savtat Says:

As I see it, they are guilty of hate crimes against the Jews. I watched them burn an Israeli flag for Purim fun. I don't think we should be tolerant of them. They are out to destroy us.

What did they do to destroy you? and if you want to prosecute a hate crime, go ahead and try reporting it. Se how many people agree with you.

I don't agree with them.I think they are insane. but i don't I don't see them wishing harm on YOU, or wishing that YOU die.

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:35 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
shredready Says:

There are Jews who are mechalel Shabbos, atheists, Agnostics, convert to other religions, and join cults

because the others still love Jews and do not associate will killer and go to killers graves

really? You mean the christians never tries to kill the Jews? and converts or Jews for Jesus don't go to those Christian shrines and churches? just how ignorant about history are you?

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 Apr 01, 2012 at 10:36 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #28  
tootired Says:

These punks CELEBRATE when Jews are killed in suicide bombings, just like Arabs. So, no, they are not simply misguided. They are EVIL, and we should pray for their downfall as we would for any of our enemies.

No, those "punks" do not celebrate when Jews are killed.

If you have to lie to make your point, I guess that says everything., doesn't it?

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 Apr 02, 2012 at 07:08 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #88  
clear-thinker Says:

Do you think your last sentence needs an answer? The nk apologists care for only one thing. The destruction of Israel. They stand with holocaust deniers, anti semites and anyone else who hates Israel. There sole function is to state that Israel is responsible for everything bad in the world dating back to pro medina days. Their ignorance and shtus must remain since that is all they have.

you are anything BUT a clear thinker. to group NK with holocaust deniers and anti-semites is just ignorant and stupid.

They are not anti-semites, they don;t hate Jews, they are against a government in Israel that is not based on the Torah insr=tead of a civil govt.

If you don't understand that, you are simply a jabbering idiot.

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 Apr 02, 2012 at 01:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #93  
Anonymous Says:

you are anything BUT a clear thinker. to group NK with holocaust deniers and anti-semites is just ignorant and stupid.

They are not anti-semites, they don;t hate Jews, they are against a government in Israel that is not based on the Torah insr=tead of a civil govt.

If you don't understand that, you are simply a jabbering idiot.

A "government' is made up of people, when you curse a 'government" you curse the JEWS,NOW YOU GET IT!

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 Apr 02, 2012 at 06:17 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #94  
Anonymous Says:

A "government' is made up of people, when you curse a 'government" you curse the JEWS,NOW YOU GET IT!

“ A "government' is made up of people, when you curse a 'government" you curse the JEWS,NOW YOU GET IT! ”

Sorry, that is one of the worst explanations I have ever heard. Even if you were right, which you are not, and the government was made up of people, it would be made up, at best, of a small number of people, not "all Jews".

Also, when you curse a government, you do not curse the Jews. do you curse the Jews when you curse the government of Iran? Iraq? Russia? Venezuela?

And if you did, how would that extend to ALL Jews?

And if I cursed the American Government, would I be cursing all Christians? Mormons? Catholics? or would I be cursing ALL Americans? I think not.

NOW, YOU GET IT?

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