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Published on: May 30, 2012 08:08 AM
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Israel - Geneticists at an Israeli hospital said they have found a unique Jewish genetic mutation among an American Indian tribe, indicating that they are descendants of Jews expelled from Spain 600 years ago, local Haaretz daily reported on Wednesday.

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The findings of the study, conducted at the Sheba Medical Center near Tel Aviv, show that a group of Indians from the State of Colorado bear the so-called “Ashkenazi mutation,” on the BRCA1 gene - a marker unique to European Jews.

Those “secret Jews,” or “Anusim” in Hebrew were believed to be descendants of a Jewish man who left Europe and settled in south America about 600 years ago - likely among the hundreds of thousands of Jews expelled by Spain in 1492, and possibly among those who sailed with Christopher Columbus, according to the report, which appears in the European Journal of Human Genetics.


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 May 30, 2012 at 08:15 AM lamdan Says:

They might be from the aseres hashvutim

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 May 30, 2012 at 08:39 AM anon1m0us Says:

Reply to #1  
lamdan Says:

They might be from the aseres hashvutim

Could be, since the aseres shevotim assimilated.

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 May 30, 2012 at 08:58 AM Dan Says:

Columbus discovered America in 1492, which is 524 years ago, not 600. He never got to what's now Colorado, or anywhere close. So how did these indians develop "Jewish" markers? Because mutations are a random process, and the same mechanism which created the mutation in these Sephardic Jews also created one among these indians.

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 May 30, 2012 at 08:58 AM Anonymous Says:

This is nothing new. Go to the American Indian museum and discover a lot of similarities with "customs" and "ceremonies" that have obvious Jewish undertone. Also the Cherokee language comes directly from Hebrew.

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 May 30, 2012 at 09:01 AM from-here_to-there Says:

...and everybody thought old Frankie Ballou didn't know what he was talking about!

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 May 30, 2012 at 09:19 AM Anonymous Says:

Sounds like something out of Blazing Saddles.

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 May 30, 2012 at 09:21 AM Robert Says:

Reply to #1  
lamdan Says:

They might be from the aseres hashvutim

Perhaps you are correct

Tell me what genetic markers originate with the 10 lost tribes of israel?
Then you can compare and investigate your hypothesis.....

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 May 30, 2012 at 09:25 AM Anonymous Says:

what indian tribe?

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 May 30, 2012 at 09:57 AM DB_from_LI Says:

Reply to #1  
lamdan Says:

They might be from the aseres hashvutim

Maybe, but the “Ashkenazi mutation,” on the BRCA1 gene - a marker unique to European Jews. The Aseres Hashvatim would more likely be of African descent over European descent

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 May 30, 2012 at 09:57 AM Twitterevitch Says:

Geneticists at an Israeli hospital said they have found [what was previously thought to be] a unique Jewish genetic mutation among an American Indian tribe, indicating that the genetic mutation is NOT EXCLUSIVE TO JEWS.
Anyone who knows anything about Jews and anything about Indians knows that it's beyond silly to think that American Indians whose culture in no way (ZERO) resembles Yiddishkeit could be one of the "lost" tribes. This is Mormon idiocy spouted by a delusional fraudster with more imagination than education. Joseph Smith got this "revelation" by looking into his Urim and Thummin.

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 May 30, 2012 at 10:08 AM shlomozalman Says:

If they don't wear a brim-up hat , they are not real Jews.

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 May 30, 2012 at 10:11 AM Phineas Says:

so can we build casinos?

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 May 30, 2012 at 10:32 AM Shimon Says:

Does that mean we can now open gambling casinos?

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 May 30, 2012 at 10:34 AM enlightened-yid Says:

Silly scientists. These Indians don't wear black hats and don't have beards, so Torah says they're not Jews. .

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 May 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM Aryeh Says:

Reply to #1  
lamdan Says:

They might be from the aseres hashvutim

The article traces their origins to Spain, not the Lost Tribes.

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 May 30, 2012 at 10:44 AM Anonymous Says:

We should have known this many year ago, since when I was growing up, all the moderneshe summer camps for upscale yiddeshe yinglach had names like Camp Hiawatha, Camp Running Bear, etc. rather than Camp Vishnitz or Camp Chelmishe

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 May 30, 2012 at 11:05 AM NoMan Says:

Isn't it possible that this genetic marker is inherited from Anusim among the Spanish colonizers who sired children with Indians? There are many known cases of Anusim among the Spanish settlers and similarly many cases of Spanish-Indian relations all over the southwest.

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 May 30, 2012 at 11:39 AM Dan Says:

Reply to #10  
Twitterevitch Says:

Geneticists at an Israeli hospital said they have found [what was previously thought to be] a unique Jewish genetic mutation among an American Indian tribe, indicating that the genetic mutation is NOT EXCLUSIVE TO JEWS.
Anyone who knows anything about Jews and anything about Indians knows that it's beyond silly to think that American Indians whose culture in no way (ZERO) resembles Yiddishkeit could be one of the "lost" tribes. This is Mormon idiocy spouted by a delusional fraudster with more imagination than education. Joseph Smith got this "revelation" by looking into his Urim and Thummin.

Wow, I rarely comment on here, but what an INANE comment. Look into what native american culture is aboiut and you will find LOADS of similarities to Judaism. Of course, unless your particular brand of urbanized judaism is just about felt hats and potato kugel.

I'm just curious, twitterevitch, and all jokes aside, which gentile culture / religion DO you find to be similar to judaism? Protestantism? Islam? Materialism? Calvinism?

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 May 30, 2012 at 11:51 AM Pragmatist Says:

I am changing my name to either Gefite Fish, Shmaltz Herring, Swift Shmendrik, or Late for Shu. I am also appointing myself as chief of the Shmohawk tribe. On a more serious note, gene mutation is not evidence of ancestry. DNA comparisons between American Indians and Jews have been done in the past and the conclusive evidence is that that we are not cousins. Indians are more closely related to orientals that to Jews. Regardless, Mormons will have a field day with this because their founder claimed that American Indians are descendants of the 10 lost tribes.

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 May 30, 2012 at 11:52 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #16  
Anonymous Says:

We should have known this many year ago, since when I was growing up, all the moderneshe summer camps for upscale yiddeshe yinglach had names like Camp Hiawatha, Camp Running Bear, etc. rather than Camp Vishnitz or Camp Chelmishe

Yes, I remember Camp Running Bear. Wasn't the mashgiach there, Reb Sitting Bull Rabinowitz??

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 May 30, 2012 at 12:21 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Twitterevitch Says:

Geneticists at an Israeli hospital said they have found [what was previously thought to be] a unique Jewish genetic mutation among an American Indian tribe, indicating that the genetic mutation is NOT EXCLUSIVE TO JEWS.
Anyone who knows anything about Jews and anything about Indians knows that it's beyond silly to think that American Indians whose culture in no way (ZERO) resembles Yiddishkeit could be one of the "lost" tribes. This is Mormon idiocy spouted by a delusional fraudster with more imagination than education. Joseph Smith got this "revelation" by looking into his Urim and Thummin.

you are incorrect that their culture no way resembles yiddishkeit. They believe in only ONE higher spirit, who they pray to for things like rain. I have a book on the Cherokee tribe and their language came directly from Hebrew. It is not beyond the realm of reason. I mean ...WHERE did they come from then? Hcow did they get to the "Americas" considering our roots stem from Africa.

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 May 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
Anonymous Says:

Yes, I remember Camp Running Bear. Wasn't the mashgiach there, Reb Sitting Bull Rabinowitz??

Nope..but close. Rev Sitting Bulll was the original mashgiach at the sister camp for girls, Camp Tanzen Deer, but was unfortunately niftar during the tragic chulent salmonella outbreak in the summer of 1959. Rev Rabinovitz, zt'l, never had the opportunity to work at Running Bear.

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 May 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM Avreich1 Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

This is nothing new. Go to the American Indian museum and discover a lot of similarities with "customs" and "ceremonies" that have obvious Jewish undertone. Also the Cherokee language comes directly from Hebrew.

"Also the Cherokee language comes directly from Hebrew. ”"

ROFL! I have been speaking Hebrew, day in and day out, since 1953 and this is the very first time anyone has suggested such nonsense.

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 May 30, 2012 at 01:17 PM FinVeeNemtMenSeichel Says:

Reply to #20  
Anonymous Says:

Yes, I remember Camp Running Bear. Wasn't the mashgiach there, Reb Sitting Bull Rabinowitz??

My 2 year old thinks our house is Camp Running Bare. Wow! Clearly these Indians are Jews.

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 May 30, 2012 at 01:18 PM FinVeeNemtMenSeichel Says:

Umm... People: Weren't the American Indians already here when Columbus landed? Is it me or is anybody else confused?

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 May 30, 2012 at 01:46 PM Joe Says:

No wonder the Indians in the movie "The Frisco Kid" caught on quickly to the song Hava Nagilah when Gen Wilder started sing it.

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 May 30, 2012 at 02:51 PM ShmuelG Says:

Who says they are Indians from Colorado? Secular Jews when they smoke pot look just like Indians who use peyote. Easy mistake.

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 May 30, 2012 at 03:00 PM rationalman Says:

they are also one of the few that use the lunar calendar.....

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 May 30, 2012 at 03:24 PM BeisShammai Says:

They have taken Jewish names. (White Fish)

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 May 30, 2012 at 03:40 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #23  
Avreich1 Says:

"Also the Cherokee language comes directly from Hebrew. ”"

ROFL! I have been speaking Hebrew, day in and day out, since 1953 and this is the very first time anyone has suggested such nonsense.

You can get off the floor now, put this in your pipe and smoke it:

Missouri Cherokee Tribes proclaim Jewish Heritage

by Staff
February 7, 2003

The Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory has recently shocked the world by claiming their ancient Oral legends tell of a Cherokee migration made to America from the area known as Masada.

This startling evidence is being offered to the public by Beverly Baker Northup whom is the spokesperson for their organization. The evidence offered in support of this connection to Cherokees escaping the mountain fortress of Masada is based in part of what Northup claims is stories passed down from elders and the similarity between ancient words.

Beverly Baker Northup believes there is a connection between these two peoples based on evidence of Jews of the region around Masada during Roman times wearing braided hair and the similarities that the spokesperson attributes to Hebrew language.


In explaining this connection Beverly Baker Northup is quoted as saying:

"The story has been kept alive among our Cherokee people that the Sicarii who escaped from Masada, are some of our ancestors who managed to cross the water to this land, and later became known as Cherokees. (Please note the phonetic resemblance of Si'cari'i and, Cherokee or Tsa'ra-gi'.)"

Northup claims that the famous scholar Josephus wrote that there were escapees from Masada in which the spokesperson for the Northern Cherokee states that this is evidence that gives credence to this connection between the Cherokee Indians and the Jews.

In addition to other startling claims, there is also the belief by the Northern Cherokee that a rock that was uncovered in Tennessee in 1889 that is named the Bat Creek Stone, proves a transatlantic connection to Jews.

Northup believes that the scratched writings on the rock indicate that the stone is evidence of a first century Atlantic Crossing to America by these escaped Jews that later became known as the Northern Cherokee Indians.

The Northern Cherokee attempted to gain full legislative recognition in the State of Missouri in 1985 that was eventually vetoed by Governor John Ashcroft. Governor Ashcroft made the following statement concerning his decision to veto the recognition of the Northern Cherokee:

"The Federal Government has traditionally exercised authority with respect to Indian Affairs. I am not persuaded that the state has such a substantial interest in this area that it should become involved in the recognition of Indian tribes."

Sources among some federally recognized Indian Tribes have stated that Mr. Ashcroft's comments were 100% correct and should be referred to from time to time.



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 May 30, 2012 at 04:11 PM curious Says:

Reply to #1  
lamdan Says:

They might be from the aseres hashvutim

This was a widely held belief of the Jews in the 1500s. When early settlers came to the New World they hoped to reunite with the lost tribes.

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 May 30, 2012 at 04:15 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #23  
Avreich1 Says:

"Also the Cherokee language comes directly from Hebrew. ”"

ROFL! I have been speaking Hebrew, day in and day out, since 1953 and this is the very first time anyone has suggested such nonsense.

I implore you to do your homework specifically on the cherokee tribe before you write things off as nonsense. If you still think it's nonsense then we can have an adult conversation.

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 May 30, 2012 at 04:21 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
Anonymous Says:

You can get off the floor now, put this in your pipe and smoke it:

Missouri Cherokee Tribes proclaim Jewish Heritage

by Staff
February 7, 2003

The Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory has recently shocked the world by claiming their ancient Oral legends tell of a Cherokee migration made to America from the area known as Masada.

This startling evidence is being offered to the public by Beverly Baker Northup whom is the spokesperson for their organization. The evidence offered in support of this connection to Cherokees escaping the mountain fortress of Masada is based in part of what Northup claims is stories passed down from elders and the similarity between ancient words.

Beverly Baker Northup believes there is a connection between these two peoples based on evidence of Jews of the region around Masada during Roman times wearing braided hair and the similarities that the spokesperson attributes to Hebrew language.


In explaining this connection Beverly Baker Northup is quoted as saying:

"The story has been kept alive among our Cherokee people that the Sicarii who escaped from Masada, are some of our ancestors who managed to cross the water to this land, and later became known as Cherokees. (Please note the phonetic resemblance of Si'cari'i and, Cherokee or Tsa'ra-gi'.)"

Northup claims that the famous scholar Josephus wrote that there were escapees from Masada in which the spokesperson for the Northern Cherokee states that this is evidence that gives credence to this connection between the Cherokee Indians and the Jews.

In addition to other startling claims, there is also the belief by the Northern Cherokee that a rock that was uncovered in Tennessee in 1889 that is named the Bat Creek Stone, proves a transatlantic connection to Jews.

Northup believes that the scratched writings on the rock indicate that the stone is evidence of a first century Atlantic Crossing to America by these escaped Jews that later became known as the Northern Cherokee Indians.

The Northern Cherokee attempted to gain full legislative recognition in the State of Missouri in 1985 that was eventually vetoed by Governor John Ashcroft. Governor Ashcroft made the following statement concerning his decision to veto the recognition of the Northern Cherokee:

"The Federal Government has traditionally exercised authority with respect to Indian Affairs. I am not persuaded that the state has such a substantial interest in this area that it should become involved in the recognition of Indian tribes."

Sources among some federally recognized Indian Tribes have stated that Mr. Ashcroft's comments were 100% correct and should be referred to from time to time.



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Thank you. This is what I have been saying. I have books and books on it. Also they revolve holidays around the harvest and the moon - including one they refer to as the "beginning" which coincides with rosh hashana. There are MANY similarities specifically between Cherokees and Judaism (I have no idea about other tribes). But people like to laugh. I mean you may as well laugh at the idea of merannos as well. You have no idea who stems from Judaism and what customs they have that are directly related to Judaism (lighting candles in a closet once a week).

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 May 30, 2012 at 04:28 PM ShmuelG Says:

Reply to #30  
Anonymous Says:

You can get off the floor now, put this in your pipe and smoke it:

Missouri Cherokee Tribes proclaim Jewish Heritage

by Staff
February 7, 2003

The Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory has recently shocked the world by claiming their ancient Oral legends tell of a Cherokee migration made to America from the area known as Masada.

This startling evidence is being offered to the public by Beverly Baker Northup whom is the spokesperson for their organization. The evidence offered in support of this connection to Cherokees escaping the mountain fortress of Masada is based in part of what Northup claims is stories passed down from elders and the similarity between ancient words.

Beverly Baker Northup believes there is a connection between these two peoples based on evidence of Jews of the region around Masada during Roman times wearing braided hair and the similarities that the spokesperson attributes to Hebrew language.


In explaining this connection Beverly Baker Northup is quoted as saying:

"The story has been kept alive among our Cherokee people that the Sicarii who escaped from Masada, are some of our ancestors who managed to cross the water to this land, and later became known as Cherokees. (Please note the phonetic resemblance of Si'cari'i and, Cherokee or Tsa'ra-gi'.)"

Northup claims that the famous scholar Josephus wrote that there were escapees from Masada in which the spokesperson for the Northern Cherokee states that this is evidence that gives credence to this connection between the Cherokee Indians and the Jews.

In addition to other startling claims, there is also the belief by the Northern Cherokee that a rock that was uncovered in Tennessee in 1889 that is named the Bat Creek Stone, proves a transatlantic connection to Jews.

Northup believes that the scratched writings on the rock indicate that the stone is evidence of a first century Atlantic Crossing to America by these escaped Jews that later became known as the Northern Cherokee Indians.

The Northern Cherokee attempted to gain full legislative recognition in the State of Missouri in 1985 that was eventually vetoed by Governor John Ashcroft. Governor Ashcroft made the following statement concerning his decision to veto the recognition of the Northern Cherokee:

"The Federal Government has traditionally exercised authority with respect to Indian Affairs. I am not persuaded that the state has such a substantial interest in this area that it should become involved in the recognition of Indian tribes."

Sources among some federally recognized Indian Tribes have stated that Mr. Ashcroft's comments were 100% correct and should be referred to from time to time.



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Ok, now that you presented all this evidence, it completely changes my opinion. ROTFLMAO.

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 May 30, 2012 at 05:33 PM DavidDavid Says:

One problem, the jews expelled from spain were sefardic not ashkanazic.

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 May 30, 2012 at 08:53 PM curious Says:

Reply to #32  
Anonymous Says:

I implore you to do your homework specifically on the cherokee tribe before you write things off as nonsense. If you still think it's nonsense then we can have an adult conversation.

Some tribes called their leaders the Kehuna. Coincidence?

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 May 30, 2012 at 11:03 PM bored Says:

Reply to #21  
Anonymous Says:

you are incorrect that their culture no way resembles yiddishkeit. They believe in only ONE higher spirit, who they pray to for things like rain. I have a book on the Cherokee tribe and their language came directly from Hebrew. It is not beyond the realm of reason. I mean ...WHERE did they come from then? Hcow did they get to the "Americas" considering our roots stem from Africa.

acc to zohar in vayikra pg 10 there are people in the other continets who do not come from adam harishon

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 May 31, 2012 at 01:30 AM The_Beadle Says:

Reply to #23  
Avreich1 Says:

"Also the Cherokee language comes directly from Hebrew. ”"

ROFL! I have been speaking Hebrew, day in and day out, since 1953 and this is the very first time anyone has suggested such nonsense.

But you haven't also been speaking Cherokee day in day out, so why would anyone suggest it?

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 May 31, 2012 at 11:34 AM ShmuelG Says:

Reply to #37  
bored Says:

acc to zohar in vayikra pg 10 there are people in the other continets who do not come from adam harishon

I believe it. Most of them seem to live in West Baltimore.

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 Feb 20, 2013 at 09:31 AM Wordsmith1 Says:

There is 1948 Israel, which contains mostly Jews as a population.

Then there is Biblical Israel. While the King James differs somewhat from the Torah in wording I'm sure, let's examine were God said He would plant the dispersed northern Kingdom.

Israel’s New Land
Why America Is Special

Second Samuel 7:10

10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,

1 Cronicles 17:9

9 Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning,

Deuteronomy 33:28

28 Israel then shall dwell in safety alone: the fountain of Jacob shall be upon a land of corn and wine; also his heavens shall drop down dew.

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 May 26, 2013 at 08:55 PM csqrd Says:

A VERY interesting book you might want to read is called, "He Walked the Americas"! I've had to buy it 4 times, seems that folks that borrow it forget it has a home already! LOL

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 Jul 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM garryumphress Says:

Not only can some be mapped genetically but also chronologically.
This has been until recently a " mystery" however with time more and more can get revealed especially the messages to the tribes of Israel as to their true identity as spoken to Ezekiel.
Here is a link to see chronologically where the tribes have been deposited and it can illustrate the timing, destiny and the formation of the nations....( read tribes and peoples) for a much bigger purpose than man has been able to have known..... so far...
http://bibletribes.org/

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 Aug 16, 2013 at 09:10 PM Brokendradle Says:

Mel Brooks is already at work on a new act.

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 Aug 16, 2013 at 09:16 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #40  
Wordsmith1 Says:

There is 1948 Israel, which contains mostly Jews as a population.

Then there is Biblical Israel. While the King James differs somewhat from the Torah in wording I'm sure, let's examine were God said He would plant the dispersed northern Kingdom.

Israel’s New Land
Why America Is Special

Second Samuel 7:10

10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,

1 Cronicles 17:9

9 Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning,

Deuteronomy 33:28

28 Israel then shall dwell in safety alone: the fountain of Jacob shall be upon a land of corn and wine; also his heavens shall drop down dew.

Corn didn't exist in Biblical Israel, or anywhere outside of the Americas, until colonial times. The word is mistranslated. It merely means "grain".

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 Aug 16, 2013 at 09:31 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #21  
Anonymous Says:

you are incorrect that their culture no way resembles yiddishkeit. They believe in only ONE higher spirit, who they pray to for things like rain. I have a book on the Cherokee tribe and their language came directly from Hebrew. It is not beyond the realm of reason. I mean ...WHERE did they come from then? Hcow did they get to the "Americas" considering our roots stem from Africa.

The Cherokee language did not derive from Hebrew. The Cherokee who created the first written form of their language simply used letters from English, Greek, and Hebrew to create a syllabary that allowed the language to be written and read. That's how Hebrew crept into the Cherokee language.

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