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Jerusalem - Keshev Committee Making Progress Despite Charedi Representative Quitting

Published on: July 1, 2012 07:50 PM
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A part of the Plesner Committee who were tasked with finding an alternative to the Tal Law, attend a discussion in the Israeli parliament.A part of the Plesner Committee who were tasked with finding an alternative to the Tal Law, attend a discussion in the Israeli parliament.

Jerusalem - Efforts to reach an agreement on equalizing the burden of IDF service made progress on Sunday, even as the Keshev Committee that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu appointed for that purpose continued to unravel.

The haredi representative on the committee, attorney Yaakov Weinroth, quit on Sunday night, citing in a letter to Netanyahu that the issue of personal sanctions on ultra-Orthodox that he strongly opposes was not being handled in a serious way. He joined the Yisrael Beytenu and Habayit Hayehudi representatives who quit the committee last week.

Keshev Committee chairman MK Yohanan Plesner slammed Weinroth, saying that his resignation was proof that the committee would create real change.

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Negotiations have shifted from the Keshev Committee to quiet, behind-the-scenes talks. Shas denied reports on Channel 2 and Channel 10 Sunday night that the party had agreed for the first time to permit “light personal sanctions” to be allayed on yeshiva students who evade IDF service.

Channel 2 reported that senior Shas officials stated they would not leave the coalition if the sanctions are decided upon, on the condition that this will complete the bill that is currently being formulated, with no additional demands.

According to the Channel 10 report, ultra-Orthodox party representatives agreed that haredim who do not enlist in the army will not receive housing benefits. In return, they asked for the quota of haredim exempt from army service to be increased.

Vice Premier Shaul Mofaz decided Sunday to postpone a planned visit to the UK and France to personally attend to the Keshev Committee crisis.

Mofaz was meant to meet with top leaders in the two countries midweek to discuss regional development, negotiations with the Palestinians and the Iranian nuclear program.

Former Kadima chairwoman Tzipi Livni said on Sunday to achieve equality in Israel, every citizen must perform military or civilian national service, whether they are Jewish or Arab, religious or secular.

Livni was speaking to members of “Camp Sucker,” a movement calling for equal service from all segments of the population, at their tent encampment in Tel Aviv.

She said that if some segments of society opt out of serving the country, there should be a limit to the number that are allowed to do so, adding that Israel cannot talk about morals, equality and democracy when only some of its population serves.

“Those who do not follow the law must have sanctions levied against them,” she said.

Livni declined to answer questions on whether Kadima should leave Netanyahu’s coalition. Kadima MKs loyal to her have spoken openly about using the dispute over drafting yeshiva students to split the party.

Hiddush, a religious-freedom lobbying organization, called on the Keshev Committee to complete its deliberations, despite the decision last week made by Yisrael Beytenu and Habayit Hayehudi to leave the panel.

Reform Rabbi Uri Regev called in particular for the issue of personal financial sanctions on haredi men refusing to serve to be fully discussed and included in the final recommendations of the committee.

“It is becoming ever more apparent that the experts appointed to the committee are nothing but a fig leaf, and that the politicians are seeking to make the decisions for them,” Regev said.

On Sunday, commander of the IDF Central Command Maj.-Gen. Nitzan Alon said that the IDF can absorb into its ranks as many recruits from the ultra-Orthodox community as the state decides to draft.

Alon also noted that drafting haredi men at a more advanced age, relatively speaking, would have significant budgetary ramifications, since men from the community marry young and have children at an early age.

All soldiers are entitled to a supplementary army income if they are married with children, so recruiting ultra- Orthodox men at an older age is more costly for the IDF.

Also on Sunday, several dozen haredi men and youths in Jerusalem’s Mea She’arim neighborhood participated in a prayer service to “avert the decree of a national service draft.”

They then marched toward the IDF recruitment office in the city to protest but police prevented them from reaching their destination.

Content is provided courtesy of the Jerusalem Post

 


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 Jul 01, 2012 at 08:01 PM shredready Says:

without sanctions or penalties to whole draft will become a joke. If they do not want even modest financial sanction then just jail them

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 Jul 01, 2012 at 08:23 PM ALTERG Says:

Waste of time, they trying already 60 years to bring in the jewish people to the IDF & didn't happen yet so the same will be now, they will sit & learn till משיח gane come

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 Jul 01, 2012 at 08:25 PM abeytt03 Says:

This issue shouldn't be over-complicated, it's really quite simple. Charedim should have to serve the country in some capacity if they expect to benefit from its social programs.

They are also entitled to truly voice their opposition to the state of Israel...by leaving.

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 Jul 01, 2012 at 09:03 PM Anonymous Says:

No one from national religious parties has yet explained why there should be some quota of a "privileged few" of Chareidi boys and girls who get a totally free ride and do not have to either serve in the army or peform some type of national service. What could possibly justify saying that a few are so privileged that the rules should not apply to them?

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 Jul 02, 2012 at 12:12 AM Pimpernuter Says:

OK, people here keep complaining why the charedim should get a "free pass".

Once upon a time, there was a few yiden, living on Main St. In a city mostly goyim. It was not very comfortable, but the tried to make the best out of it, and to live in peace with the entire neighborhood.

One day, a few fighters came into the city, and said to few yiden, let's get the goyim out of here, and make the city a jewish one all the way! The older citizens were against this plan, and said no, it's fine the way it is. Don't put us all into trouble! But the fighters were laughing, and started a fight with some sophisticated weapons, and then told everybody, that they must take their time to patrol everyone from the enemies. But the older citizens refused. They claimed that they were happy the way it was before the fighting, and we were against this plan, now you guys started a fire, and you want us to help you disuinguish it?

I believe you understand the Nimshal. The urthodox jews, being in Israel before it became the Jewish state, before they started the fight with the arabs, are not required to be on duty. The say to all the tziyoinim לא מדובשך ולא מעוקצך. Let us live freely the way we want!

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 Jul 01, 2012 at 09:54 PM Anony Says:

Reply to #1  
shredready Says:

without sanctions or penalties to whole draft will become a joke. If they do not want even modest financial sanction then just jail them

Kind of like the Vietnam War. Jailing people who are conscientious objectors to serving based on their religion. How statist. How anti-personal values of liberty. How awful.

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 Jul 02, 2012 at 01:37 AM Avreich1 Says:

Reply to #2  
ALTERG Says:

Waste of time, they trying already 60 years to bring in the jewish people to the IDF & didn't happen yet so the same will be now, they will sit & learn till משיח gane come

"they trying already 60 years to bring in the jewish people to the IDF & didn't happen "

I see, Alterg. So are you are telling us that, in your august and learned opinion, none of the Israelis who have served in the IDF, the Etzel, the Palmach, the Hagana, the Stern Gang, Hashomer and all the other defense units now or in the past are or were Jewish?

Please tell us what the inhabitants of Israel are supposed to do to protect themselves until משיח does come.

After all, the pitgam says that HaShem helps those who help themselves.

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 Jul 02, 2012 at 01:43 AM not_suprised Says:

Reply to #3  
abeytt03 Says:

This issue shouldn't be over-complicated, it's really quite simple. Charedim should have to serve the country in some capacity if they expect to benefit from its social programs.

They are also entitled to truly voice their opposition to the state of Israel...by leaving.

They already do serve the country; they break their teeth learning Torah as commanded. Not for monetary gain or notoriety, but for the obligation of which they (all Jews actually) are commanded.
That is a very serious "capacity". If you think its so easy, try it yourself and then judge.

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 Jul 02, 2012 at 04:56 AM Gesher Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

No one from national religious parties has yet explained why there should be some quota of a "privileged few" of Chareidi boys and girls who get a totally free ride and do not have to either serve in the army or peform some type of national service. What could possibly justify saying that a few are so privileged that the rules should not apply to them?

it seems that even the National Religious understand that a hard core of Torah learners are always needed for the Kiyum of Am Yisroel
.Imagine the scenario--in Europe and America you will have thousands of Bnei Tora and in Eretz Yisroel everyone is in the army.!!!

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 Jul 02, 2012 at 09:19 AM Anonymous Says:

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not_suprised Says:

They already do serve the country; they break their teeth learning Torah as commanded. Not for monetary gain or notoriety, but for the obligation of which they (all Jews actually) are commanded.
That is a very serious "capacity". If you think its so easy, try it yourself and then judge.

Why are they "breaking their teeth" or any other portion of their anatomy sitting in yeshiva learning??? No on is beating them? They could take a year or two off to serve and then return to their studies? Are they so shallow that they are incabable of multi-tasking and taking on some public sevice role if they are afraid to join the IDF for any reason?

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 Jul 02, 2012 at 10:19 AM cdg528 Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

Why are they "breaking their teeth" or any other portion of their anatomy sitting in yeshiva learning??? No on is beating them? They could take a year or two off to serve and then return to their studies? Are they so shallow that they are incabable of multi-tasking and taking on some public sevice role if they are afraid to join the IDF for any reason?

who is in zaka, hatzala, ezer mizion,ezer lemerpah etc so why is isn't any body saying
there are charedim in sevice!

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