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Kiryas Joel, NJ - Report: Satmar’s Political Power Viewed As Waning

Published on: November 13, 2012 04:55 PM
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FILE Photo. Voters mingle at a polling station in Kiryas Joel, N.Y. Mark Lennihan/APFILE Photo. Voters mingle at a polling station in Kiryas Joel, N.Y. Mark Lennihan/AP

Kiryas Joel, NY - Visiting Kiryas Joel – a village in Orange County with a population of 20,000, many of whom are under the age of 12 – has long been a must for both local and national candidates seeking elected office. With its high voter-turnout rate, the Satmar contingent is viewed as wielding tremendous political power and influence.

But recently, Satmar’s influence as a vital voting bloc has waned owing to the ongoing feud between brothers, Rabbis Aaron Teitelbaum and Zalman Teitelbaum, according to a report in the Crain’s Insider (http://bit.ly/W5SKOe).

Some political operatives claim that the Satmar community has less political currency and value to politicians when adherents of the two brothers vote for opposing candidates because their votes simply cancel each other out. But others allege that supporting different candidates is a positive politically for the two factions since it forces candidates to court both groups for their votes.

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The Kiryas Joel vote was split in the last two Congressional elections. In the most recent election cycle, Republican incumbent Nan Hayworth earned 3,335 votes in the unofficial tally compared with Democrat Sean Patrick Maloney’s 1,518 votes. Mr. Maloney ultimately emerged victorious in that race.

Republican Assemblywoman Annie Rabbitt, whose new district includes the Village of New Square, said this past election was the second time Kiryat Joel deliberately voted against her in attempt to oust her from office. “KJ fully bloc voted against myself,” she told the Mid-Hudson News (http://bit.ly/RAY3pc). Still, the Assemblywoman won her re-election bid and said she intends to fully represent all of her constituents in the new legislative session.


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 Nov 13, 2012 at 05:04 PM Reb Yid Says:

Well, they voted for Obama and he won...

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 05:16 PM sambayon Says:

about time

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 05:20 PM lamdan Says:

This is the koach of the satan & machlokes we are losing our clout & grants so we can't spread the word of hashem

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 06:16 PM Schutz Says:

People who fight with siblings are not holy.

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 06:20 PM ALTERG Says:

How are the zaly's not ashamed to vote for mr' maloney who marreid a male? Not that he voted only for the gay bill he actuelly got merried, where are there rabbunim? What a shame

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 06:38 PM yaakov doe Says:

Voting as a block can certainly hurt a community if they back a loser.

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 06:50 PM DRE53 Says:

Voter turnout in most local elections is a joke and could easily be swayed by frum voters. It is the internal fighting that makes every election a referendim over which rebe is holier.

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 07:05 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
ALTERG Says:

How are the zaly's not ashamed to vote for mr' maloney who marreid a male? Not that he voted only for the gay bill he actuelly got merried, where are there rabbunim? What a shame

Its non of our business to dictate the personsal life of a gentile.
And it is a shame and shame and chillul hashem to post such negative info on someones personal life.

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 07:18 PM LEEAVE Says:

not sure hoe 3,500 and 1,500 is beind called a split vote in this article, sounds like Obamas math!!!!

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 07:46 PM lamdan Says:

Reply to #5  
ALTERG Says:

How are the zaly's not ashamed to vote for mr' maloney who marreid a male? Not that he voted only for the gay bill he actuelly got merried, where are there rabbunim? What a shame

Getting Merry is not wrong getting married is supposedly a problem but the same ppl screaming now against zali will next year endorse Quinn or endorsed Fidler last year & endorsed Felder this year when he was the person behind nominating Quinn for speaker & she's the symbol of toievah so I guess if the toievah comes with money for MY mosdos then its not pshat we look away from toievah its not toievah at all its lemafreeyah not toievah

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 07:59 PM shredready Says:

Reply to #3  
lamdan Says:

This is the koach of the satan & machlokes we are losing our clout & grants so we can't spread the word of hashem

that is great when to brothers hate it is not the word of hasem

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 08:01 PM Open-Your-Eyes Says:

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ALTERG Says:

How are the zaly's not ashamed to vote for mr' maloney who marreid a male? Not that he voted only for the gay bill he actuelly got merried, where are there rabbunim? What a shame

You seem to be either confused or mistaking. The Aroinim are the ones that voted for the Gay

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 09:14 PM AlbertEinstein Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Its non of our business to dictate the personsal life of a gentile.
And it is a shame and shame and chillul hashem to post such negative info on someones personal life.

You are incorrect. Homosexual relations are forbidden by the Torah for Gentiles as well as Jews; for the former, it is one of the seven Noahide commandments.

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 09:41 PM bigwheeel Says:

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ALTERG Says:

How are the zaly's not ashamed to vote for mr' maloney who marreid a male? Not that he voted only for the gay bill he actuelly got merried, where are there rabbunim? What a shame

The substance of your message is very good. But the format leaves a lot to be desired. In other words. Start taking lessons in basic English Spelling and Grammar.

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 10:01 PM Kleegerfinyaydem Says:

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ALTERG Says:

How are the zaly's not ashamed to vote for mr' maloney who marreid a male? Not that he voted only for the gay bill he actuelly got merried, where are there rabbunim? What a shame

Young man, you have some research to do!! Remember governor Ed Kotch, he was opposed by rabbi miller and the kasho rav cause of his immoral ideology. What did satmer-then united-do? Trashed them as trash!! The aroinem endorsed Daniel squadron who also voted for ssm! The zalis trashed a frum Jew over an immoral youngster from Vito Lopez's staff!! All in all they both do what they want to push there agenda forward so don't be so shocked.

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 Nov 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM Anonymous Says:

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lamdan Says:

This is the koach of the satan & machlokes we are losing our clout & grants so we can't spread the word of hashem

It is totally inappropriate to suggest that voting in accordance with the Rebbe's directive shows the "koach of satan". Even if you disagree with Teitelbaum's positions on political issues, those positions generally reflect his views from a haalachic perspective and what would be best for his followers. Similarly, those who vote against the rebbe's wishes are NOT going against the "word of hashem" but it is simply wrong to compare the rebbe to satan.

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 Nov 14, 2012 at 12:46 AM schwartzi Says:

Reply to #5  
ALTERG Says:

How are the zaly's not ashamed to vote for mr' maloney who marreid a male? Not that he voted only for the gay bill he actuelly got merried, where are there rabbunim? What a shame

dont be so childish,ANYTHING goes when it comes to money.

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 Nov 14, 2012 at 08:49 AM ermn8 Says:

Amazing to me that we "allow" this machlokes to go on. What do we teach our children when they ask why two brothers can't even talk to each other let alone share in simchos and work together for the sake of klal yisroel. I sure that both sides have very lengthy answers that all point to " lshem Shomayim" but it is all totally kneged Torah and all that chassidus stands for. To me it is disgusting and embarrassing that this goes on. Does anyone have a good explanation for me?

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 Nov 14, 2012 at 12:42 PM Geulah Says:

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ermn8 Says:

Amazing to me that we "allow" this machlokes to go on. What do we teach our children when they ask why two brothers can't even talk to each other let alone share in simchos and work together for the sake of klal yisroel. I sure that both sides have very lengthy answers that all point to " lshem Shomayim" but it is all totally kneged Torah and all that chassidus stands for. To me it is disgusting and embarrassing that this goes on. Does anyone have a good explanation for me?

Machlokes is as old as the world. Kayin and Hevel were two fighting brothers, Yitzchok and Yishmael, Yaakov and Eisav, Dovid HaMelech's children. We've been fighting, internally, for milennium. Sometimes the fights are l'sheim Shomayim and sometimes not; whom amongst us can read Hashem's mind? The machlokes isn't the major problem, in my eyes, the people who feed the machlokes, having what to personally gain from it, are the problem. As has been said, the best fights are the ones that draw a crowd.

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 Nov 14, 2012 at 02:20 PM Shtarker Says:

...or perhaps it's just that politicians are becoming wary of having their names associated with all the mishigos.

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