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Brooklyn, NY - Principal Of Orthodox Jewish School Convicted For Abuse; Faces Life In Prison

Published on: December 3, 2012 05:32 PM
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Emanuel Yegutkin was a principal in 2009 at Elite High School in Flatbush, NY.Emanuel Yegutkin was a principal in 2009 at Elite High School in Flatbush, NY.

Brooklyn, NY - Kings County District Attorney Charles J. Hynes today announced the conviction of Emanuel Yegutkin, 33, for sexually abusing three young boys over the course of 10 years. 

Yegutkin was convicted before Brooklyn Supreme Court Justice Dineen Riviezzo on 75 counts of charges including three counts of Course of Sexual Conduct Against a Child in the First Degree, The top charge, Course of Sexual Conduct Against a Child in the First Degree carries a maximum sentence of 25 years.

Yegutkin will be back in court on December 17 to announce a sentencing date.

District Attorney Hynes said, “This violent sexual predator faces the remainder of his life behind bars.  This should serve as a clear message that those who would sexually abuse children in this county will be punished severely.”

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Yegutkin was a principal of a private Jewish high school in Brooklyn.  He became a close friend of the victims’ family after attending the school where the victims’ father worked, and visited their home frequently.  The victims did not attend Yegutkin’s school.  From 1996 to 2005, Yegutkin sexually abused two of the boys when they were ages seven to 15-years-old, and in 2008, exposed the third boy to pornography. Yegutkin was arrested in January 2009.

At trial, the three victims testified against Yegutkin.  The trial began on October 18th.  The jury, consisting of seven men and five women, were in deliberations since November 29.  They came back with a guilty verdict today, finding Yegutkin guilty on all 75 counts.


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 Dec 03, 2012 at 05:36 PM Yossi Says:

Burich Dyen Emes

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 05:53 PM PowerUp Says:

Only in amarica do you go to jail for life, I honestly think this is really going overboard!

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 06:29 PM anonymous Says:

This DA is really going overboard in picking on orthodox people. Dineen Riviezzo-75 counts & 25 years? Rapists & murdereres get a lot less. Juries these days are illiterate dummies.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 06:30 PM shredready Says:

hopefully this will start putting fear into future molesters that you will be outed and punished the free ride is over

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 06:35 PM flatbush Says:

sad that it come 2 this

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 06:37 PM shredready Says:

Reply to #3  
anonymous Says:

This DA is really going overboard in picking on orthodox people. Dineen Riviezzo-75 counts & 25 years? Rapists & murdereres get a lot less. Juries these days are illiterate dummies.

you and other are full of it if a goy would do what he did he you would ask for the electric chair you only feel for him since he is a frum yid

You have decide what type of punishment should be given for any crime and it should apply for everybody the same

a novel concept for some

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 06:41 PM Avrohomk Says:

Reply to #3  
anonymous Says:

This DA is really going overboard in picking on orthodox people. Dineen Riviezzo-75 counts & 25 years? Rapists & murdereres get a lot less. Juries these days are illiterate dummies.

The problem is if you let him out what stops him from doing it again? How else do we protect our children?

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 06:48 PM Leon Zacharowicz MD Says:

It's sad that some people appear more concerned about a predator than about his victims, who will likely be scarred for life in ways most of us cannot even imagine.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 06:50 PM ZoberaVesh Says:

Molesters should not be tolerated without exception.However,our enemies from within declared war against us frum yidden and we cant rid ourselves from these tzadikim.
The DA has no choice he is under a lot of pressure from the so called activists who declared themselves as guardian of our kids.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 06:56 PM HeshyEmes Says:

Reply to #4  
shredready Says:

hopefully this will start putting fear into future molesters that you will be outed and punished the free ride is over

I think that 10 years would suffice to teach people lessons. One can rape & murder & get a lot less time. Had he murdered (chas v'sholom) his victims he would face less time.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 06:59 PM Anonymous Says:

Amazing how low we got. How people gloat when a fellow Jew is convicted and is send to prison for the rest of his life, regardless if he's right or wrong. These so called activist are a group of lost Jewish souls who are trying to bring their misery into the midst of us. Go back to your hangouts in manhattan which is filled with hatred against orthodox Jews even though you all started out being orthodox and have your venting cholent parties every Thursday night and please leave us alone

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:00 PM Yossel Says:

Reply to #3  
anonymous Says:

This DA is really going overboard in picking on orthodox people. Dineen Riviezzo-75 counts & 25 years? Rapists & murdereres get a lot less. Juries these days are illiterate dummies.

Child molestation is a form of rape. 75 counts of rape would get anyone locked up for a very long time. By the way, in New York the sentence for murder 1 is life imprisonment.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:04 PM festayid Says:

His fellow prisoners should do to him what he did to those innocent kids

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:14 PM SFPHH Says:

Reply to #3  
anonymous Says:

This DA is really going overboard in picking on orthodox people. Dineen Riviezzo-75 counts & 25 years? Rapists & murdereres get a lot less. Juries these days are illiterate dummies.

There are over 100 charges, I'm not sure why VINNEWS states only 75. The DA is not picking on Orthodox Jews, because if you see the total case load you will see that per every Orthodox Jew they have at least 50 non - Jews with open cases.
The reason why it is so noticeable in the Orthodox community is because we always scream " Hollier then Thou". and therefore held to a higher standard. If our Rabonim & Askonim weren't so busy trying to hide it, but dealt with the problem and the isssue, this wouldn't be so noticeable.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:17 PM Anonymous Says:

What is happening to our people? Two in the same courthouse in the same week for the same crime??? How can this be?

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:20 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
anonymous Says:

This DA is really going overboard in picking on orthodox people. Dineen Riviezzo-75 counts & 25 years? Rapists & murdereres get a lot less. Juries these days are illiterate dummies.

"This DA is really going overboard in picking on orthodox people"

Are you blaming the DA? What about the abuser who had sex with the little boys? Why not blame him instead? Due to community pressure, the DA is finally trying to protect our kinder!

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:26 PM mark m appel voice of justice Says:

i spoke to the mother today and informed her of the verdict.she is a amazing woman with great midos and emunah. she was very glad that the nightmare is over.She asked me to convey to the community that awareness and educating children on the subject of abuse must be expanded to all yeshivas.This case is so sad because the family had complete trust in emanuel as a educator and mechanech.Working on this case with the family for the past two years,i was shocked that previous mosdos knew about emanuels history and kept silent Burech Hashem the three boys are doing welll with one getting married in march my question is .....why did it take Da hynes 4 years to bring this case to trial????? we all know why voj

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:39 PM HaNavon Says:

Good!
If we would be able to do things according to Torah law, being that there's no aidus but we know that it happened, we put him into a locked room with no food and say "if Hashem wants him to live, let Hashem send him food directly"!
Yes, that really is the din! However, if it becomes widespread, which is the case now, then Beis Din may kill him even without aidus and hasroaah, even today and even in galus, if it will strike fear into the hearts of such perverts.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:50 PM HaNavon Says:

Oh, and by the way, it happens to be that since the late 90's, rabunnim in Brooklyn knew about this and didn't act.
In fact, most cases of child molestation that come in front of the members of the Mo'etzes Gedolei HaTorah are NOT reported by them to authorities!
Why does everyone continue to trust their children to these "gedolim"???
Even more, why do we trust them with KASHRUS?????
If I had to bet all of my money on which is more kosher, either meat from the OU, or Hebrew National, and I already know that the same rabbis that are involved in kashrus within the OU have kept these cases quiet, but Rav Ralbag wouldn't...
Which would I pick to eat?
The Hebrew National!!!!!

I feel the same way about modern orthodox schools!

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Only in amarica do you go to jail for life, I honestly think this is really going overboard!

That's right, in other countries they would have tor him to pieces without a trial.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:56 PM clear-thinker Says:

Reply to #3  
anonymous Says:

This DA is really going overboard in picking on orthodox people. Dineen Riviezzo-75 counts & 25 years? Rapists & murdereres get a lot less. Juries these days are illiterate dummies.

What do you think this person did? He sexually abused 3 young boys over the course of ten years. What do you think the sentence should be? A time out? You and number 2 clearly think that a frum man can do no wrong. I wonder if you would feel the same way if it was your children who were abused.
Perhaps it is not Hynes who went overboard but Yegutkin.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 07:57 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Only in amarica do you go to jail for life, I honestly think this is really going overboard!

I really think molesters who prey on children are going overboard. If the law is 25 years for each of 3 counts of first degree sexual conduct against a child then I suppose that adds up to 75 years. I guess he should have thought of that before he stole the souls of 3 children.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:03 PM Pony Express Says:

More and more and of course because perhaps there is online news today, I am reading of convicted sex offenders in the orthodox jewish community. This is the most painstaking time to visit our news sites and I am completely without remorse for any of these pedophiles that are endemic now to the affluent jewish communities it seems.
I think that the problem is that in this day and era, there is more attention to the wicked and the ways of the world than there is to Torah.

I read lots of the news here and I find that there is an outrageous number of jews who post too who violate Jewish Law in their conduct online. This must be more than just a few pedophiles. We must as jews learn to discriminate between poverty and hatred and pursue only Torah in our endeavors. Israel can not sit tight while out own brothers are situationally destroying the very heart of Israel.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:32 PM justdotherightthing Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Only in amarica do you go to jail for life, I honestly think this is really going overboard!

This is amazing- a man prays on innocent children, ruins there lives, and your first reaction is to question his punishment? Regardless of how harsh his punishment is your first reaction should be that "thankfully this monster wont be hunting down any more children- the beast is finally off the streets"- not that his punishment is too hash!! All of the rest of u guys feeling sorry for this pedophile - debating the length of punishment - is crazy!!! All of u have got a lot of soul searching to do today- Would u have the same reaction if it was heaven forbid your child? U want to fight for justice? Fight against the criminals- not the ones who put him jail- This creep is far from a Sholom Rabaskin-

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:35 PM Butterfly Says:

To #3 We should thank DA Hynes for doing his job!! We are all trying to protect our children -- Every single one of them should be put away for a long time so that our kids will be able to walk the streets without fear!!

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:37 PM TexasJew Says:

He should be castrated imm and after 50 years in jail maybe released. He will never change his way so castration is really the only answer. What an SOB

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:39 PM Brooklyn mom Says:

I hope he gets life in prison with no chance of parol. #10, you think ten years will cure him? No it won't. Statistics show that child predators never are cured, so to keep MY grandchildren, and maybe your children and/or grandchildren safe, you better hope he never gets out. AND if they don't keep him in isolation the rest of the prison population will take really good care of him.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:41 PM firsthand experienced Says:

To all of you in favor of or pitying this monster, you most porobably have never come close to experiencing such a horrible act or its life lasting scars.

Firstly, the victims, their future spouses and ultimately their children will suffer for life from such abuse, they will remain in "their own prison" for life, all because of one's inhumain desires, because of one's sadistic n ruthless wish to satisfy his own sick n twisted desire on an innocent victim's account.

And secondly, what is our guarantee that this man won't reoffend... Keep him away from society for as long as possible!!

And thirdly, if all those holy rabunim would not put all their efforts in covering up those horrendous acts while ignoring the torture the victims have suffered, DA hynes would not have to go out of his way in making a statement that THIS WILL NO LONGER BE TOLLERATED!!

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:48 PM qazxc Says:

Life in prison sounds pretty bad but hopefully it won't be a very long sentence.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:49 PM enlightened-yid Says:

Hynes is taking too much credit for this case. The principal served the Russian immigrant community since Elite high school is not for black hat world. The victims were Russian immigrant background and in that community, intimidation from rabbis on cooperating with Law Enforcement would not work. The parents and victims would not tolerate harassment from the community to keep quiet. Had this monster been a principal of your typical black hat yeshiva and have his victims been from traditional Frum Belt, Hynes would be facing obstacles like victim intimidation, little cooperation, and community protection of this pedophile. Hynes said this is a warning to other child abusers...more like a lesson for Frum Pedophiles to pick your victims carefully so that rabbinical and community intimidation works on them more than in less religiously controlled homes. Sad State of Affairs

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:55 PM Joe Says:

Reply to #10  
HeshyEmes Says:

I think that 10 years would suffice to teach people lessons. One can rape & murder & get a lot less time. Had he murdered (chas v'sholom) his victims he would face less time.

"Had he murdered his victim he would have got less time'? let me guess because the victim was dead? many comments on this page are so stupid. I don't wish your kids to be molested. it's better for you to just stay stupid for the rest of your life.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:56 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
ZoberaVesh Says:

Molesters should not be tolerated without exception.However,our enemies from within declared war against us frum yidden and we cant rid ourselves from these tzadikim.
The DA has no choice he is under a lot of pressure from the so called activists who declared themselves as guardian of our kids.

"The DA has no choice he is under a lot of pressure from the so called activists who declared themselves as guardian of our kids."

We need these activists since we are not doing a very good job to protect our own kinder. Our babies come to us with the truth and we send them for counseling and accuse them of revenge! When a child tells an adult the child is being touched, PLEASE listen and get help........NOT from a Ruv!!!!! Little children usually don't lie and make things up about sexual abuse.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 08:59 PM Shulem Says:

Reply to #9  
ZoberaVesh Says:

Molesters should not be tolerated without exception.However,our enemies from within declared war against us frum yidden and we cant rid ourselves from these tzadikim.
The DA has no choice he is under a lot of pressure from the so called activists who declared themselves as guardian of our kids.

"So Called Activists" are better than no activists!! And I don't see anything wrong with Children being protected!

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 09:01 PM Geb_ah_shmeichel Says:

The main problem is, that all these charges are 10 years old. The lesson we learn today only helps for the future, yet all these convictions are old cases and get life behind bars.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 09:03 PM shmuelg613 Says:

Dina D'malchusa Dina!!! No More Toleration...No More!!!

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 09:13 PM shredready Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

Amazing how low we got. How people gloat when a fellow Jew is convicted and is send to prison for the rest of his life, regardless if he's right or wrong. These so called activist are a group of lost Jewish souls who are trying to bring their misery into the midst of us. Go back to your hangouts in manhattan which is filled with hatred against orthodox Jews even though you all started out being orthodox and have your venting cholent parties every Thursday night and please leave us alone

Blame everybody but the perpetrator is it getting old that lame excuze

And yes you have fallen so low that you are more concerned of the, molester than you are of the victims and their supporters

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 09:17 PM Sol Says:

Reply to #9  
ZoberaVesh Says:

Molesters should not be tolerated without exception.However,our enemies from within declared war against us frum yidden and we cant rid ourselves from these tzadikim.
The DA has no choice he is under a lot of pressure from the so called activists who declared themselves as guardian of our kids.

The problem I have with these type of cases is, that since there is no physical evidence how do we really know if the guy is truly guilty? It boils down to "he said she said" and whether the jury believes the story or not!! Some1 pls explain!!

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 09:22 PM CommonSense Says:

Reply to #10  
HeshyEmes Says:

I think that 10 years would suffice to teach people lessons. One can rape & murder & get a lot less time. Had he murdered (chas v'sholom) his victims he would face less time.

Murder is over in a minute.
Molestation is a slow drawn out murder that can last a lifetime.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 09:51 PM MOM Says:

Anyone having sympothy for this molester and the amount of years he got is either: 1. Naive, 2. Covering for someone, 3. Covering for himself or 4. All of the above!

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 10:21 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #29  
qazxc Says:

Life in prison sounds pretty bad but hopefully it won't be a very long sentence.

"Life in prison sounds pretty bad but hopefully it won't be a very long sentence"

If it's a short sentence, he will be out and can molest my grandkids. No thanks, I prefer a very long sentence until my family is too old to be abused, since the Rabbonim won't do anything.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 10:22 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #39  
MOM Says:

Anyone having sympothy for this molester and the amount of years he got is either: 1. Naive, 2. Covering for someone, 3. Covering for himself or 4. All of the above!

Wow,you write exactly the same way as shredready. Same spelling mistakes, same fractured syntax. OMG. Is that a coincedence?

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 10:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
enlightened-yid Says:

Hynes is taking too much credit for this case. The principal served the Russian immigrant community since Elite high school is not for black hat world. The victims were Russian immigrant background and in that community, intimidation from rabbis on cooperating with Law Enforcement would not work. The parents and victims would not tolerate harassment from the community to keep quiet. Had this monster been a principal of your typical black hat yeshiva and have his victims been from traditional Frum Belt, Hynes would be facing obstacles like victim intimidation, little cooperation, and community protection of this pedophile. Hynes said this is a warning to other child abusers...more like a lesson for Frum Pedophiles to pick your victims carefully so that rabbinical and community intimidation works on them more than in less religiously controlled homes. Sad State of Affairs

You know what happens when you Asssume? Well do not include us in your assumption.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 10:30 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

Amazing how low we got. How people gloat when a fellow Jew is convicted and is send to prison for the rest of his life, regardless if he's right or wrong. These so called activist are a group of lost Jewish souls who are trying to bring their misery into the midst of us. Go back to your hangouts in manhattan which is filled with hatred against orthodox Jews even though you all started out being orthodox and have your venting cholent parties every Thursday night and please leave us alone

I am not one of those people you are describing...what would you like...for him to go free???Have you ever had a child molested...I did...and know many that have children that did, right in your midst. Until it doesn't hit you, you are so easy to spew your garbage.
Maybe the punishment does not fit the crime as far as time is concerned, but certainly a necessary step to prevent people from these heinous crimes...If one molester will think twice about being in jail...maybe parents and children could feel safer these days...it's scary to have kids today out there. What say you?????

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 10:40 PM Ina Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

Amazing how low we got. How people gloat when a fellow Jew is convicted and is send to prison for the rest of his life, regardless if he's right or wrong. These so called activist are a group of lost Jewish souls who are trying to bring their misery into the midst of us. Go back to your hangouts in manhattan which is filled with hatred against orthodox Jews even though you all started out being orthodox and have your venting cholent parties every Thursday night and please leave us alone

Would you say this if your daughter was his victim? Maybe you really need to think this out...

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 10:46 PM cliftonbochur Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Only in amarica do you go to jail for life, I honestly think this is really going overboard!

Oh so they should ruin someone's life and then not get there's ruined?
think about it

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 10:52 PM c Says:

Reply to #29  
qazxc Says:

Life in prison sounds pretty bad but hopefully it won't be a very long sentence.

I agree.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 11:50 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #6  
shredready Says:

you and other are full of it if a goy would do what he did he you would ask for the electric chair you only feel for him since he is a frum yid

You have decide what type of punishment should be given for any crime and it should apply for everybody the same

a novel concept for some

Please stop calling these menuvals "Frum", ok? They only act frum to the outside world while in private they are animals!

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 11:51 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #8  
Leon Zacharowicz MD Says:

It's sad that some people appear more concerned about a predator than about his victims, who will likely be scarred for life in ways most of us cannot even imagine.

You are right, please lets take a minute to remember the sweet Motti, who could not deal with his pain.

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 11:53 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #9  
ZoberaVesh Says:

Molesters should not be tolerated without exception.However,our enemies from within declared war against us frum yidden and we cant rid ourselves from these tzadikim.
The DA has no choice he is under a lot of pressure from the so called activists who declared themselves as guardian of our kids.

And before us activists, who protected the kids? What kind of a good job did the rest of you do to even teach them how to protect themselves or to even stop these filthy pigs from destroying them???? What did the rest of you do to stop feeding these poor little lambs to their slaughter?

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 Dec 03, 2012 at 11:58 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #10  
HeshyEmes Says:

I think that 10 years would suffice to teach people lessons. One can rape & murder & get a lot less time. Had he murdered (chas v'sholom) his victims he would face less time.

Heshy, here is the emes, he did rape. And for each violation and each act of Rape there is a consequence and a price to be paid. For that he had 75 counts against him. Webershmutz has 88 counts against him. For every action there is a reaction, for every unlawful act against a child, for every crime against a child there is a punishment. Had he only raped or violated one child one time, he would only get punished for that one crime. However, he didn't stop with one child and he didn't stop with one crime or one act. Therefore, for every single time he made a child suffer one of these sexual and abusive acts, he must pay the consequence. Do you understand now? Are you more concerned with the criminal or with the suffering and abuse the children went through. Can you imagine if it were your child how terrified and horrific it would have been? And the fact that he couldn't tell you and confide in you, the parent, the one that was supposed to protect him? How would you feel? Would you feel like you failed as a parent. How much time should he sit in jail for making you feel like a failure and for raping and abusing your child over a course of 10 years? 10 years?

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:05 AM Sherree Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

Amazing how low we got. How people gloat when a fellow Jew is convicted and is send to prison for the rest of his life, regardless if he's right or wrong. These so called activist are a group of lost Jewish souls who are trying to bring their misery into the midst of us. Go back to your hangouts in manhattan which is filled with hatred against orthodox Jews even though you all started out being orthodox and have your venting cholent parties every Thursday night and please leave us alone

Hey genius read my lips "I am still orthodox" and more frum than any animal that would rape a child!!! I am an activist, I am also a wife, a mother, a grandmother, an aunt, a sister, a niece, a neighbor, etc. Do I really need to go on. I will protect and defend any child, especially a Jewish child from any molester especially a Jewish molester who they unfortunately forget to be afraid of. WE are NOT lost Jewish souls, it is you, those who would support and defend the scum of the earth who have forgotten your Torah and your mitzvos! A "RODEF BELONGS IN JAIL" where he can't harm anyone else. And any amhaaretz who thinks otherwise is just as bad as this sinner who forgets that Hashem does NOT take coffee breaks or lunch breaks!!! Hashem sees everything. He may fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but he can't fool Hashem! These phony Jews who call themselves Frum and yet act like animals as they stand before Melech Malchei Hamelachim. Who exactly do they think they are fooling?? Oh, my bad, you of course. They are fooling you!! But they can't fool us because we know we stand before the King 24/7!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:06 AM Sherree Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

What is happening to our people? Two in the same courthouse in the same week for the same crime??? How can this be?

In Yiddishkeit we don't believe in coincidence it is obvious that Hashem has a plan!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:09 AM Sherree Says:

Reply to #17  
mark m appel voice of justice Says:

i spoke to the mother today and informed her of the verdict.she is a amazing woman with great midos and emunah. she was very glad that the nightmare is over.She asked me to convey to the community that awareness and educating children on the subject of abuse must be expanded to all yeshivas.This case is so sad because the family had complete trust in emanuel as a educator and mechanech.Working on this case with the family for the past two years,i was shocked that previous mosdos knew about emanuels history and kept silent Burech Hashem the three boys are doing welll with one getting married in march my question is .....why did it take Da hynes 4 years to bring this case to trial????? we all know why voj

I sent her an email as soon as I heard. I am so happy that they finally have justice and that they can get on with their lives. Maybe they will be able to start the healing process now that they know he can't harm anyone else and that he is being punished for his crimes. B"H, today was a very happy day for many, many people.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:13 AM Sherree Says:

Reply to #23  
Pony Express Says:

More and more and of course because perhaps there is online news today, I am reading of convicted sex offenders in the orthodox jewish community. This is the most painstaking time to visit our news sites and I am completely without remorse for any of these pedophiles that are endemic now to the affluent jewish communities it seems.
I think that the problem is that in this day and era, there is more attention to the wicked and the ways of the world than there is to Torah.

I read lots of the news here and I find that there is an outrageous number of jews who post too who violate Jewish Law in their conduct online. This must be more than just a few pedophiles. We must as jews learn to discriminate between poverty and hatred and pursue only Torah in our endeavors. Israel can not sit tight while out own brothers are situationally destroying the very heart of Israel.

This is NOT a new phenomenon in our world. Had the Rabbonim and the people in previous generations the courage to do what we have started to do now at this time, we could have saved so many Yiddishe neshomas from these poor excuses for human beings. Many of these offenders have been in business for decades!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:16 AM Sherree Says:

Reply to #30  
enlightened-yid Says:

Hynes is taking too much credit for this case. The principal served the Russian immigrant community since Elite high school is not for black hat world. The victims were Russian immigrant background and in that community, intimidation from rabbis on cooperating with Law Enforcement would not work. The parents and victims would not tolerate harassment from the community to keep quiet. Had this monster been a principal of your typical black hat yeshiva and have his victims been from traditional Frum Belt, Hynes would be facing obstacles like victim intimidation, little cooperation, and community protection of this pedophile. Hynes said this is a warning to other child abusers...more like a lesson for Frum Pedophiles to pick your victims carefully so that rabbinical and community intimidation works on them more than in less religiously controlled homes. Sad State of Affairs

It is quite obvious that you know nothing about this case!!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:17 AM Sherree Says:

Reply to #34  
Geb_ah_shmeichel Says:

The main problem is, that all these charges are 10 years old. The lesson we learn today only helps for the future, yet all these convictions are old cases and get life behind bars.

To this I say, Better late than never! Yes, it took too long to get here, but with Hashem's help we got here!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:18 AM Sherree Says:

Reply to #37  
Sol Says:

The problem I have with these type of cases is, that since there is no physical evidence how do we really know if the guy is truly guilty? It boils down to "he said she said" and whether the jury believes the story or not!! Some1 pls explain!!

OK, lets just say that there were 3 saids he said.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:19 AM Sherree Says:

Reply to #39  
MOM Says:

Anyone having sympothy for this molester and the amount of years he got is either: 1. Naive, 2. Covering for someone, 3. Covering for himself or 4. All of the above!

Mom, I love multiple choice, I say "4" all of the above, and that's my final answer.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:22 AM Anonymous Says:

So anyone can accuse someone of sexual abuse, testify and guy goes to jail.

I guess this is the latest weapon to use when you don't like someone

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:33 AM TexasJew Says:

Sherree Says- this isn't a questionnaire that needs answers. Just state your opinion and give others a chance.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:39 AM ChareidiMan Says:

Very sad for a man to spend the rest of his life in prison, but not merely as sad as a child spending the rest of his life in teraphy, pain and a life full of issues.

My heart breaks for your wife and kids, but you dont have anything of my heart. get used to American cheeses sandwiches in state prison

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:00 AM Sander Says:

It really sad that out of so many posts, there is almost none that may have a doubt that he may be not guilty or may be not such a monster as some people portrait him. I see most of the posts are written by one person, who is very involved with victim's family. I happened to know Emanuel for many years, and I refuse to believe all of you who don't know anything about case and still spread lies and empty accusations about him. I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair. I'm happy that victims family will have wedding in the family, but I can not stop thinking what will happen to Emanuel's family. Even if he is guilty as charged, his family's life is ruined, his poor wife, and poor 3 little daughters won't have a husband, father around. All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:25 AM The_Beadle Says:

Reply to #41  
Anonymous Says:

Wow,you write exactly the same way as shredready. Same spelling mistakes, same fractured syntax. OMG. Is that a coincedence?

As you're criticising spelling mistakes, it's "coincidence"

Aside from that, so many of the commenters here are evil nutters. They don't give a damn for the victims, believe it to be all some sort of conspiracy. They are just members of a cult that has little to do with Judaism.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:39 AM LebidikYankel Says:

Reply to #18  
HaNavon Says:

Good!
If we would be able to do things according to Torah law, being that there's no aidus but we know that it happened, we put him into a locked room with no food and say "if Hashem wants him to live, let Hashem send him food directly"!
Yes, that really is the din! However, if it becomes widespread, which is the case now, then Beis Din may kill him even without aidus and hasroaah, even today and even in galus, if it will strike fear into the hearts of such perverts.

Interesting 'Torah law' you got there, friend. Care to provide a source?

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:44 AM mugsisme Says:

Reply to #40  
Anonymous Says:

"Life in prison sounds pretty bad but hopefully it won't be a very long sentence"

If it's a short sentence, he will be out and can molest my grandkids. No thanks, I prefer a very long sentence until my family is too old to be abused, since the Rabbonim won't do anything.

It was actually a good comment. The meaning is ... he shouldn't live out his sentence for a long time. Let him meet true justice quickly.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:47 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #37  
Sol Says:

The problem I have with these type of cases is, that since there is no physical evidence how do we really know if the guy is truly guilty? It boils down to "he said she said" and whether the jury believes the story or not!! Some1 pls explain!!

Your point has a name: The Elephant In The Room. Proof is an uncomfortable issue when it comes to these topics. It is a real difficulty. ("Little children don't lie!", some yell. Oh really? Google ' McMartin Preschool' or 'Mary Ann Barbour')

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 02:47 AM Greener Says:

Reply to #24  
justdotherightthing Says:

This is amazing- a man prays on innocent children, ruins there lives, and your first reaction is to question his punishment? Regardless of how harsh his punishment is your first reaction should be that "thankfully this monster wont be hunting down any more children- the beast is finally off the streets"- not that his punishment is too hash!! All of the rest of u guys feeling sorry for this pedophile - debating the length of punishment - is crazy!!! All of u have got a lot of soul searching to do today- Would u have the same reaction if it was heaven forbid your child? U want to fight for justice? Fight against the criminals- not the ones who put him jail- This creep is far from a Sholom Rabaskin-

"a man prays on innocent children"
If that is what he had done it would be OK. He did not "pray", he "preyed".
Kapish?

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 03:11 AM MONTREALYID Says:

May he rot in jail for life.

I appeal to the orthodox community to expunge these vile abusers from your midst.

You are doing a great disservice to your own children by harbouring these predators.

This vile creature was found quilty by a court of law and so he should pay for his despicable crime.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 04:26 AM 5TResident Says:

I think the people who are defending this man without knowing him or the facts are forgetting what kind of HUGE Chilul Hashem he committed, aside from what the jury said he did to those children.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 05:04 AM shifstar Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Only in amarica do you go to jail for life, I honestly think this is really going overboard!

So you believe in giving shorter sentences so that the predator can come out and abuse more children?! I wouldn't trust children coming anywhere close to you..

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 05:10 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
HeshyEmes Says:

I think that 10 years would suffice to teach people lessons. One can rape & murder & get a lot less time. Had he murdered (chas v'sholom) his victims he would face less time.

Rape is not to far from murder, in any case its murder of the soul, trust, confidants and in many cases the ability to hold down a proper relationship/ marriage and job. Its something that will unfortunately stay with these children forever.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 05:18 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

Amazing how low we got. How people gloat when a fellow Jew is convicted and is send to prison for the rest of his life, regardless if he's right or wrong. These so called activist are a group of lost Jewish souls who are trying to bring their misery into the midst of us. Go back to your hangouts in manhattan which is filled with hatred against orthodox Jews even though you all started out being orthodox and have your venting cholent parties every Thursday night and please leave us alone

We have come to a level so 'low' where we call those protecting our children 'lost Jewish souls who are trying to bring misery.' We must name and shame those people who state that they are Yidden but don't follow the Torah or Hashems ways, we must make it clear that abuse of any kind will never be tolerated!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 08:39 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #62  
Sander Says:

It really sad that out of so many posts, there is almost none that may have a doubt that he may be not guilty or may be not such a monster as some people portrait him. I see most of the posts are written by one person, who is very involved with victim's family. I happened to know Emanuel for many years, and I refuse to believe all of you who don't know anything about case and still spread lies and empty accusations about him. I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair. I'm happy that victims family will have wedding in the family, but I can not stop thinking what will happen to Emanuel's family. Even if he is guilty as charged, his family's life is ruined, his poor wife, and poor 3 little daughters won't have a husband, father around. All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him.

"All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him."

While he was raping the boys, did he think about his children? If he did, why didn't he stop? Because he could not stop and that is why he needs to be sent away for many years. I don't want him in Shul near my grandkids when he is released in many years.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 08:46 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #57  
Sherree Says:

OK, lets just say that there were 3 saids he said.

Sherree, you seem to know a lot about these cases. I am part of a large group of Conservative and Reform moms. As you know, abuse does not exist in our communities. We would like to donate money to the survivors, perhaps pay for their rent, college, whatever they need. Is there a LEGITIMATE fund set up for them which would go directly to them?

We don't want anything set up by Satmar or any Rabbonim. A fund which we can contribute throughout the year in honor of these brave souls. They've been through so much and we pray a little gelt will help them move on to a safer life.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 09:20 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #62  
Sander Says:

It really sad that out of so many posts, there is almost none that may have a doubt that he may be not guilty or may be not such a monster as some people portrait him. I see most of the posts are written by one person, who is very involved with victim's family. I happened to know Emanuel for many years, and I refuse to believe all of you who don't know anything about case and still spread lies and empty accusations about him. I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair. I'm happy that victims family will have wedding in the family, but I can not stop thinking what will happen to Emanuel's family. Even if he is guilty as charged, his family's life is ruined, his poor wife, and poor 3 little daughters won't have a husband, father around. All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him.

I am pretty sure the first person who should have thought of his wife and children was him. He and he alone is responsible for the suffrage they will go through now.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 09:54 AM Sol Says:

The world has gone very extreme. I have seen many decent people, avoiding children on the street waiting to be crossed, or any other dialogue with children, out of fear of being accused.
Leiby Kletzky O"H, met many good people on the street, before meeting that monster, but good people know to keep away from children, so they didn'y offer assistance.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 09:56 AM jacksax Says:

Reply to #4  
shredready Says:

hopefully this will start putting fear into future molesters that you will be outed and punished the free ride is over

I know the boys and the yudgutkutkins very well. Any one that comments on this story without knowing the true story is a complete idiot . Yudkutkin is not only innocent ..he is a very unfotunate victim of some of the sickist people out there .. If someones and abuser they should b prosecuted ..in this case its not yudgutkin

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 10:02 AM PMOinFL Says:

Reply to #10  
HeshyEmes Says:

I think that 10 years would suffice to teach people lessons. One can rape & murder & get a lot less time. Had he murdered (chas v'sholom) his victims he would face less time.

Who wants to "teach a lesson"? If there were a stray dog in your neighborhood that would occasionally bite people, would you lock it up for a short time to teach it a lesson, or would you put it in a cage forever? This is no different.

An educated man who is the principal of a high school, and who is 100% responsible for the safety and well-being of children does not need to be "taught a lesson". He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. There is no "rehabilitation" for such people. He COULD have sought out a plea deal which would have reduced his sentence with an agreement to leave his community and move somewhere where hunting for new prey would be difficult. There are many farms and kosher food processors in the middle of nowhere that could use such a man.

Instead, he relied on the same thing the rest of the perverts in our community rely on.... that witnesses will back-out due to community pressure, or that witnesses will be seen as "unreliable" because they have acted out in some way (usually due to the abuse itself!).

This man deserves no sympathy and we should all turn our backs on him. He should have kosher food, time and resources to daven and learn and NOTHING more.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 10:13 AM alex Says:

Reply to #62  
Sander Says:

It really sad that out of so many posts, there is almost none that may have a doubt that he may be not guilty or may be not such a monster as some people portrait him. I see most of the posts are written by one person, who is very involved with victim's family. I happened to know Emanuel for many years, and I refuse to believe all of you who don't know anything about case and still spread lies and empty accusations about him. I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair. I'm happy that victims family will have wedding in the family, but I can not stop thinking what will happen to Emanuel's family. Even if he is guilty as charged, his family's life is ruined, his poor wife, and poor 3 little daughters won't have a husband, father around. All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him.

To # 62...What you are saying makes perfect sense to me. It was all the victims fault. They were not frum enough for you, etc. Since you feel so bad for Emanuel, once he gets out prison perhaps you should hire him to babysit your grandkids.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 10:17 AM Realist Says:

Reply to #39  
MOM Says:

Anyone having sympothy for this molester and the amount of years he got is either: 1. Naive, 2. Covering for someone, 3. Covering for himself or 4. All of the above!

I have sympathy for him!
And proudly.
And I am neither naive nor covering for anyone.
I did not know Emanuel fifteen years ago; but do now.
I do not claim to know the facts in the case.
I DO know how he has conducted himself recently.
He is a Yerei Shamayim. A Talmid Chacham.
A father and husband to a beautiful family.
If these charges are actually true, let it be known that
Mr. Yegutkin has risen above his temptations, and
though it is well-known that most pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated,
has learned to control the demons inside.
YES! If the crime was perpetrated, the punishment should be meted out.
BUT, not only is there nothing wrong to feel sympathy for him and his family;
I believe it is incumbent upon us as "RACHMONIM B'NEI RACHMONIM"
to feel that way.
It does not in any way shape or form diminish the crime, nor the sympathy we feel for the victims. If the mother (of a victim) is actually the type of person that Mark Mayer Appel describes (as having "great midos and emunah") , I'm sure she'd agree.
HAMAKOM Y'RACHEIM ALEINU.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 10:19 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #41  
Anonymous Says:

Wow,you write exactly the same way as shredready. Same spelling mistakes, same fractured syntax. OMG. Is that a coincedence?

Hey, your spelling ain't much better! LOL!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 10:20 AM jacksax Says:

Reply to #73  
Anonymous Says:

"All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him."

While he was raping the boys, did he think about his children? If he did, why didn't he stop? Because he could not stop and that is why he needs to be sent away for many years. I don't want him in Shul near my grandkids when he is released in many years.

Good morning g-d . Why do we need a court system . When we have u along with all your friends who know this guy is 0 guilty?? Oh and yes i send my kids over to play at his house

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 10:31 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #74  
Anonymous Says:

Sherree, you seem to know a lot about these cases. I am part of a large group of Conservative and Reform moms. As you know, abuse does not exist in our communities. We would like to donate money to the survivors, perhaps pay for their rent, college, whatever they need. Is there a LEGITIMATE fund set up for them which would go directly to them?

We don't want anything set up by Satmar or any Rabbonim. A fund which we can contribute throughout the year in honor of these brave souls. They've been through so much and we pray a little gelt will help them move on to a safer life.

If you are legit and want to donate money that is great, but you need to take off your rose colored glasses or remove your head from the sand if you think there is any existing community today that does not have abuse in its midst, including conservative and reform. I'll give you at least one name that you can check out yourself and you will understand how in denial you are - Rabbi David Kaye - Reform Rabbi.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 10:37 AM shlishkes Says:

Sander, one can only wonder why you are so supportive of a pedophile. Blaming the victims and slandering them as druggies who are not frum is
evil. Who cares if they are not frum or might have done drugs-which has never been indicated. Only frum kids are molested?

BTW this guy is not frum or orthodox, he is garbage in ANY community and one can only hope that he will suffer greatly in prison.

Sander and the other supporters of this pedophile and those who feel child rape is not serious enough to for a lifetime in prison should be ashamed of themselves and these are the exact type of people who don't report pedophiles. If it was their own child (although they probably would not believe their child) would they get up and ask the judge for a shorter sentence for the pedophile?Thank G-d for the American justice system and for the brave children who report these atrocities.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 10:56 AM SHMOO2 Says:

Reply to #13  
festayid Says:

His fellow prisoners should do to him what he did to those innocent kids

Don't worry, they WILL.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 11:01 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #73  
Anonymous Says:

"All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him."

While he was raping the boys, did he think about his children? If he did, why didn't he stop? Because he could not stop and that is why he needs to be sent away for many years. I don't want him in Shul near my grandkids when he is released in many years.

Do the math!
He's 33 now.
Crime started in '96.
He was 17 years old!!
No kids( or wife) to think of.
Crime continued till '05.
He was 26 with one newborn.
Maybe that was why he stopped?

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 11:02 AM missyid Says:

Reply to #80  
Realist Says:

I have sympathy for him!
And proudly.
And I am neither naive nor covering for anyone.
I did not know Emanuel fifteen years ago; but do now.
I do not claim to know the facts in the case.
I DO know how he has conducted himself recently.
He is a Yerei Shamayim. A Talmid Chacham.
A father and husband to a beautiful family.
If these charges are actually true, let it be known that
Mr. Yegutkin has risen above his temptations, and
though it is well-known that most pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated,
has learned to control the demons inside.
YES! If the crime was perpetrated, the punishment should be meted out.
BUT, not only is there nothing wrong to feel sympathy for him and his family;
I believe it is incumbent upon us as "RACHMONIM B'NEI RACHMONIM"
to feel that way.
It does not in any way shape or form diminish the crime, nor the sympathy we feel for the victims. If the mother (of a victim) is actually the type of person that Mark Mayer Appel describes (as having "great midos and emunah") , I'm sure she'd agree.
HAMAKOM Y'RACHEIM ALEINU.

If these charges are actually true, let it be known that ....

YES! If the crime was perpetrated, the punishment should be meted out.....


Uh, yes you are either naive or just plain ignorant.

Your wording implies that you do not realize these are no longer just allegations, the man has officially been convicted.

If you think he has risen above his demons I hope you send your kids to visit him so he is not lonely.

I have sympathy for his family, because they too are victims of their father/husband's evil choices. I have no sympathy for him.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 11:40 AM Anonymous Says:

#74: Years ago, I heard an interview with an expert (maybe Elisabeth Kubler-Ross?) who said that all communities have incest... except Jews. Of course, we know that she was wrong. There is sexual abuse in all ethnic, religious, and socioeconomic groups. Some may have more, some may have less, but your claim that there is no sexual abuse among conservative and reform Jews is laughable.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 11:47 AM SFPHH Says:

Reply to #74  
Anonymous Says:

Sherree, you seem to know a lot about these cases. I am part of a large group of Conservative and Reform moms. As you know, abuse does not exist in our communities. We would like to donate money to the survivors, perhaps pay for their rent, college, whatever they need. Is there a LEGITIMATE fund set up for them which would go directly to them?

We don't want anything set up by Satmar or any Rabbonim. A fund which we can contribute throughout the year in honor of these brave souls. They've been through so much and we pray a little gelt will help them move on to a safer life.

First of all how can you say there is no abuse among reform and conservative? Unfortunetly the reality is no one know where there is or where there isn't abuse until it comes out.
There are some Rabonim which see the light and are trying to help the victims. I am personally not a fan of Rabbi Dovid Cohen but when it comes to abuse issues from my understanding he stands on the side of truth, which ever way it will lead him.

But your mom group can easily find out who these children are look up th ecourt records they didn't hide their names

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:00 PM FinVeeNemtMenSeichel Says:

Reply to #23  
Pony Express Says:

More and more and of course because perhaps there is online news today, I am reading of convicted sex offenders in the orthodox jewish community. This is the most painstaking time to visit our news sites and I am completely without remorse for any of these pedophiles that are endemic now to the affluent jewish communities it seems.
I think that the problem is that in this day and era, there is more attention to the wicked and the ways of the world than there is to Torah.

I read lots of the news here and I find that there is an outrageous number of jews who post too who violate Jewish Law in their conduct online. This must be more than just a few pedophiles. We must as jews learn to discriminate between poverty and hatred and pursue only Torah in our endeavors. Israel can not sit tight while out own brothers are situationally destroying the very heart of Israel.

I think you might a have a good point (or two? three?). I'm just not sure I know what it is because I can't understand you. Could you please rephrase what you're trying to tell us?

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:06 PM Yoily30 Says:

To severe !?? he should be put to death

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:06 PM Teddi Says:

Reply to #3  
anonymous Says:

This DA is really going overboard in picking on orthodox people. Dineen Riviezzo-75 counts & 25 years? Rapists & murdereres get a lot less. Juries these days are illiterate dummies.

Since it seems like you have are VERY uninformed about the effects of sexual abuse, here are some statistics: 1.Child abuse is a cycle... 1/3 of abused or neglected children will eventually victimize their own children. (I have read that the cycle of abuse is about 70% of victims will go on to abuse others-so by abusing a few children it can be hundres eventually.) http://cardinalmccloskeyservices.org/ca_facts.shtml
When sexually abused children are not treated, society must later deal with resulting problems such as mental health issues, drug and alcohol abuse, crime, suicide and the perpetuation of a cycle of sexual abuse.
http://www.parentsformeganslaw.org/public/statistics_childSexualAbuse.html
·Adults abused during childhood are:
- more than twice as likely to have at least one lifetime psychiatric diagnosis
- almost three times as likely to have an affective disorder
- almost three times as likely to have an anxiety disorder
- almost 2 ½ times as likely to have phobias
- over ten times as likely to have a panic disorder
- almost four times as likely to have an antisocial personality disorder
http://www.theannainstitute.org/wchac-ststs.pdf

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:21 PM Teddi Says:

Reply to #73  
Anonymous Says:

"All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him."

While he was raping the boys, did he think about his children? If he did, why didn't he stop? Because he could not stop and that is why he needs to be sent away for many years. I don't want him in Shul near my grandkids when he is released in many years.

I was reading the comments backward, from latest to earliest and I saw your comment. I was shocked so I went back to read the rest of #62's comment and I was blown away. Was he serious? I mean I understand the idea of whether he is really guilty or not but the justification of his wife and children's lives being ruined as a reason not give him a lesser sentence is mind boggling.Cycle of abuse anyone? You know whose lives are ruined? Those boys!!! People are so ignorant. "Even if he is guilty as charged, his family's life is ruined, his poor wife, and poor 3 little daughters won't have a husband, father around. All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him."

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:38 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #83  
Anonymous Says:

If you are legit and want to donate money that is great, but you need to take off your rose colored glasses or remove your head from the sand if you think there is any existing community today that does not have abuse in its midst, including conservative and reform. I'll give you at least one name that you can check out yourself and you will understand how in denial you are - Rabbi David Kaye - Reform Rabbi.

"I'll give you at least one name that you can check out yourself and you will understand how in denial you are - Rabbi David Kaye - Reform Rabbi."

Did the whole community stand behind him and did they raise millions of dollars for his defense? Were there posters put up on all the streets calling his prey whores? Did the Rabbonim call his prey whores? I think not!!! Reformed and Conservative Jews do not tolerate one second of sexual abuse in their midst. They would never try to pay $500,000 for a victim to "disappear." They would never expell survivors who go to the police.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:38 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #74  
Anonymous Says:

Sherree, you seem to know a lot about these cases. I am part of a large group of Conservative and Reform moms. As you know, abuse does not exist in our communities. We would like to donate money to the survivors, perhaps pay for their rent, college, whatever they need. Is there a LEGITIMATE fund set up for them which would go directly to them?

We don't want anything set up by Satmar or any Rabbonim. A fund which we can contribute throughout the year in honor of these brave souls. They've been through so much and we pray a little gelt will help them move on to a safer life.

Talk about heads in the sand.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #81  
Anonymous Says:

Hey, your spelling ain't much better! LOL!

Regardless of 41's spelling, he noted the truth about the two alleged posters.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:57 PM Realist77 Says:

Its amazing to read the amount of compassion towards the abuser. He ruined the lives of 3 young boys. These boys will forever carry the the guilt, shame, and other consequences of being abused. A life sentence, sounds just right.
To understand an abuser, is to understand that the abuser chose and groomed this boys for his abuse. Its not an impulsive act. Its a premeditated, calculated, thought out process. Unfortunately, most of teh research shows that these abusers cannot be rehabilitated, and have an extremely high recidivism rate of re-abusing.
The frum community, has to start realizing that getting them to "promise" not to do it again, just will not work.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 12:59 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #62  
Sander Says:

It really sad that out of so many posts, there is almost none that may have a doubt that he may be not guilty or may be not such a monster as some people portrait him. I see most of the posts are written by one person, who is very involved with victim's family. I happened to know Emanuel for many years, and I refuse to believe all of you who don't know anything about case and still spread lies and empty accusations about him. I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair. I'm happy that victims family will have wedding in the family, but I can not stop thinking what will happen to Emanuel's family. Even if he is guilty as charged, his family's life is ruined, his poor wife, and poor 3 little daughters won't have a husband, father around. All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him.

Lets put it this way Sander, HE had a choice, he could have chosen NOT to act on his urges and NOT to hurt these children of the family who was so good to him!!!

HE had a choice, HE could have NOT married this fine woman and had children with her knowing that he would have to answer for his crimes!

HIS victims had NO choice. They did NOT ask to be abused by him! As for your loshon hora about the boys that is totally uncalled for but because you brought it up I will tell you that it is HE who is to blame for it because HE abused them and it is the abuse that causes children to self medicate to ease their pain and trauma.

Yes we all feel bad for his poor wife and poor little daughters who will grow up without a father around just like many who come from divorced homes and homes who lose a parent through illness or accident. So I suggest that you and their other friends and neighbors offer your support to them and encourage them to seek immediate counseling to help them transition into their new life and make sure she has a "GET" immediately so she can find a man worthy of her and get on with her life!!!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:04 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #74  
Anonymous Says:

Sherree, you seem to know a lot about these cases. I am part of a large group of Conservative and Reform moms. As you know, abuse does not exist in our communities. We would like to donate money to the survivors, perhaps pay for their rent, college, whatever they need. Is there a LEGITIMATE fund set up for them which would go directly to them?

We don't want anything set up by Satmar or any Rabbonim. A fund which we can contribute throughout the year in honor of these brave souls. They've been through so much and we pray a little gelt will help them move on to a safer life.

Thank you, that is so very thoughtful and considerate of you. I wish there were more people as kind as you are. I would suggest that you get in touch with Rabbi Yanky Horowitz or Joel Engelman. I don't know if they will allow me to give you information on them here on this blog, but you can google them and it will lead you to a connection.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:05 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #74  
Anonymous Says:

Sherree, you seem to know a lot about these cases. I am part of a large group of Conservative and Reform moms. As you know, abuse does not exist in our communities. We would like to donate money to the survivors, perhaps pay for their rent, college, whatever they need. Is there a LEGITIMATE fund set up for them which would go directly to them?

We don't want anything set up by Satmar or any Rabbonim. A fund which we can contribute throughout the year in honor of these brave souls. They've been through so much and we pray a little gelt will help them move on to a safer life.

Actually I just remembered there is a non-profit already set up it is called Chaya's community. You can google them as well.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:06 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #76  
Sol Says:

The world has gone very extreme. I have seen many decent people, avoiding children on the street waiting to be crossed, or any other dialogue with children, out of fear of being accused.
Leiby Kletzky O"H, met many good people on the street, before meeting that monster, but good people know to keep away from children, so they didn'y offer assistance.

Good people know how to protect children from monsters. Good people know how to teach children how to protect themselves. Good people know that Hashem is watching 24/7.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:11 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #77  
jacksax Says:

I know the boys and the yudgutkutkins very well. Any one that comments on this story without knowing the true story is a complete idiot . Yudkutkin is not only innocent ..he is a very unfotunate victim of some of the sickist people out there .. If someones and abuser they should b prosecuted ..in this case its not yudgutkin

Then you don't know neither and you just want to see yourself in print. The Newspaper report on the case states that when Yegutkin was questioned and asked if the boys were lying he said "I dont' remember it the same way but no, they are not lying", so who are you to say otherwise. So I guess according to your own statement it is YOU who is the complete idiot here! And I DO KNOW the true story. This family proves the old adage "no good deed goes unpunished". They were very good to him, they were extremely kind and generous to him and this is how he repaid them, by molesting their children!!!

It is quite obvious how well you know them, you don't even know how to spell his name.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:13 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #78  
PMOinFL Says:

Who wants to "teach a lesson"? If there were a stray dog in your neighborhood that would occasionally bite people, would you lock it up for a short time to teach it a lesson, or would you put it in a cage forever? This is no different.

An educated man who is the principal of a high school, and who is 100% responsible for the safety and well-being of children does not need to be "taught a lesson". He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. There is no "rehabilitation" for such people. He COULD have sought out a plea deal which would have reduced his sentence with an agreement to leave his community and move somewhere where hunting for new prey would be difficult. There are many farms and kosher food processors in the middle of nowhere that could use such a man.

Instead, he relied on the same thing the rest of the perverts in our community rely on.... that witnesses will back-out due to community pressure, or that witnesses will be seen as "unreliable" because they have acted out in some way (usually due to the abuse itself!).

This man deserves no sympathy and we should all turn our backs on him. He should have kosher food, time and resources to daven and learn and NOTHING more.

PMO, look at the chutzpa of the man. He is a pedophile and opens a Yeshiva for boys? It is like a compulsive eater opening a bakery!!!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:16 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #80  
Realist Says:

I have sympathy for him!
And proudly.
And I am neither naive nor covering for anyone.
I did not know Emanuel fifteen years ago; but do now.
I do not claim to know the facts in the case.
I DO know how he has conducted himself recently.
He is a Yerei Shamayim. A Talmid Chacham.
A father and husband to a beautiful family.
If these charges are actually true, let it be known that
Mr. Yegutkin has risen above his temptations, and
though it is well-known that most pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated,
has learned to control the demons inside.
YES! If the crime was perpetrated, the punishment should be meted out.
BUT, not only is there nothing wrong to feel sympathy for him and his family;
I believe it is incumbent upon us as "RACHMONIM B'NEI RACHMONIM"
to feel that way.
It does not in any way shape or form diminish the crime, nor the sympathy we feel for the victims. If the mother (of a victim) is actually the type of person that Mark Mayer Appel describes (as having "great midos and emunah") , I'm sure she'd agree.
HAMAKOM Y'RACHEIM ALEINU.

When this pedophile asks mechila from those he hurt, and asks the prison for therapy, at that time I will feel some sense of rachmonus on him for his stupidity and foolishness. If he shows true remorse and suffers the pain of his actions and not only the pain of his punishment then I will show rachmonus for him, but not before he does true teshuva.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:19 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #84  
shlishkes Says:

Sander, one can only wonder why you are so supportive of a pedophile. Blaming the victims and slandering them as druggies who are not frum is
evil. Who cares if they are not frum or might have done drugs-which has never been indicated. Only frum kids are molested?

BTW this guy is not frum or orthodox, he is garbage in ANY community and one can only hope that he will suffer greatly in prison.

Sander and the other supporters of this pedophile and those who feel child rape is not serious enough to for a lifetime in prison should be ashamed of themselves and these are the exact type of people who don't report pedophiles. If it was their own child (although they probably would not believe their child) would they get up and ask the judge for a shorter sentence for the pedophile?Thank G-d for the American justice system and for the brave children who report these atrocities.

I want to put the record straight before this loshon hora goes any further, the family is ALL frum!!!! Please stop this hate mongering on the victims!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:28 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Only in amarica do you go to jail for life, I honestly think this is really going overboard!

and if he was a goy, abusing frum kids, what would you say then???

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:42 PM FrumTherapist Says:

Reply to #62  
Sander Says:

It really sad that out of so many posts, there is almost none that may have a doubt that he may be not guilty or may be not such a monster as some people portrait him. I see most of the posts are written by one person, who is very involved with victim's family. I happened to know Emanuel for many years, and I refuse to believe all of you who don't know anything about case and still spread lies and empty accusations about him. I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair. I'm happy that victims family will have wedding in the family, but I can not stop thinking what will happen to Emanuel's family. Even if he is guilty as charged, his family's life is ruined, his poor wife, and poor 3 little daughters won't have a husband, father around. All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him.

hmm. I am not any other poster on here. I am appalled that you would dare call the victims names. Many kids turn to drugs (if you are honest when saying that they are drug addicts) after being abused, many times because no one believes them and the pain is too great! You are the cause of their addiction- for not believing in them!

He was found guilty by a court of law on ALL 75 counts. Not just one or two. But all 75. Hence we dont worry about if he may be innocent- court found him guilty. And I dont care about his family- Emanuel should have thought about that before doing the crime.

And if you would be willing to have your kids be near a convicted offender, that may make a case for CPS to get involved. Ie: social workers visiting your house, looking to see if any abuse was made (in this case it would be neglect), interviewing your kids and spouse many times, making a case on whether or not your kids belong in your house... its a long, drawn out process that can take months to sort out. Just letting you know.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 01:58 PM REALIST Says:

Reply to #104  
Sherree Says:

When this pedophile asks mechila from those he hurt, and asks the prison for therapy, at that time I will feel some sense of rachmonus on him for his stupidity and foolishness. If he shows true remorse and suffers the pain of his actions and not only the pain of his punishment then I will show rachmonus for him, but not before he does true teshuva.

Ours, Sheree, is not to be G-d's policeman.
I am thankful that I can find it in my heart to have rachmonus, pity, sympathy on him; and leave the T'shuva portion to him and his Maker.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 03:12 PM loxmatoe_uebische Says:

Reply to #62  
Sander Says:

It really sad that out of so many posts, there is almost none that may have a doubt that he may be not guilty or may be not such a monster as some people portrait him. I see most of the posts are written by one person, who is very involved with victim's family. I happened to know Emanuel for many years, and I refuse to believe all of you who don't know anything about case and still spread lies and empty accusations about him. I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair. I'm happy that victims family will have wedding in the family, but I can not stop thinking what will happen to Emanuel's family. Even if he is guilty as charged, his family's life is ruined, his poor wife, and poor 3 little daughters won't have a husband, father around. All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him.

Sander Says:
“I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair."

Are you kidding me? One of the kids was seven when the abuse began. Are you saying that the seven year old was dropping acid like a fiend and forced poor Saint Emanuel to engage in a "course of sexual conduct against a child in the first degree" as described in N.Y. Penal Law §130.75(1)(a)? If I met you on Avenue J at the stroke of high noon, I would punch you in the face on the basis of your comment.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 03:55 PM Lawyer Says:

To the people who are expressing rachmonus for Yegutkin, you either may be unaware, or you didn't consider, the following. Sex abuse inflicted on a child, and here there is one child who was 7, has devastating, permanent consequences. There is actual damage to the cells of the body, and the brain, proven by radiographic brain studies of child abuse victims. Victims have higher rates of substance abuse, and suicide. Its a form of slow homicide, as victims have shorter life spans. Some, with therapy, do thrive, but others don't. Its a very grave crime, and not so long ago, the death penalty could be imposed in some states, depending on the severity of the crime. The law does not give any exception for clergy, or orthodox Jews, and the law needs to be enforced. Yegutkin had the opportunity to plead guilty, which he most certainly is, and negotiate a plea, but he chose to gamble for an acquittal, force the victims to testify, and he lost. He will not be facing a very sympathetic judge at sentencing. I feel sorry for him too, but sympathy has no place in the courtroom. Had I been on the jury, I would have said guilty. If I were the judge, I would give at least 15 years.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 04:10 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #108  
REALIST Says:

Ours, Sheree, is not to be G-d's policeman.
I am thankful that I can find it in my heart to have rachmonus, pity, sympathy on him; and leave the T'shuva portion to him and his Maker.

Would you have "rachmonus, pity, sympathy on him" if he had abused your child? Doubtful.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 04:53 PM PMOinFL Says:

Reply to #80  
Realist Says:

I have sympathy for him!
And proudly.
And I am neither naive nor covering for anyone.
I did not know Emanuel fifteen years ago; but do now.
I do not claim to know the facts in the case.
I DO know how he has conducted himself recently.
He is a Yerei Shamayim. A Talmid Chacham.
A father and husband to a beautiful family.
If these charges are actually true, let it be known that
Mr. Yegutkin has risen above his temptations, and
though it is well-known that most pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated,
has learned to control the demons inside.
YES! If the crime was perpetrated, the punishment should be meted out.
BUT, not only is there nothing wrong to feel sympathy for him and his family;
I believe it is incumbent upon us as "RACHMONIM B'NEI RACHMONIM"
to feel that way.
It does not in any way shape or form diminish the crime, nor the sympathy we feel for the victims. If the mother (of a victim) is actually the type of person that Mark Mayer Appel describes (as having "great midos and emunah") , I'm sure she'd agree.
HAMAKOM Y'RACHEIM ALEINU.

FYI: You have NO idea if he is still abusing children. He very well may be. You have no clue and you would have no way of knowing unless you witnessed it with your own two eyes. You cannot state that he has risen above his temptations. You cannot prove that to anyone, let alone prove it to yourself.


You can feel sympathy for him if you want to. There are times that I feel sympathy for such people.... and maybe it time I will too. But today I only find sympathy in my heart for his victims, their families, and his family who will no doubt suffer as a result of his criminal and perverse behavior.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 05:03 PM concernedmom1 Says:

Whats most concerning is that he is one of or "own" and a principle of a school. That is the true meaning of a wolf in sheeps clothing! It was the same as with the Levi Aaron case. The poor boy went to one of our "own" because he thought he could trust him. The same with these kids - the man was the principle of their school - if you cant trust a priciple then should our children trust? The kids probably didnt see it coming. and thats the WORST part! So no, I dont pity him. I do pity his wife and kids, but I hope he gets true din vcheshbon if he is guilty!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 05:09 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #108  
REALIST Says:

Ours, Sheree, is not to be G-d's policeman.
I am thankful that I can find it in my heart to have rachmonus, pity, sympathy on him; and leave the T'shuva portion to him and his Maker.

If you find it in your heart to have pity, sympathy and rachmonus on a pedophile you must be a man! I only have rachmonus on victims and of course the families of pedophiles. I also have compassion for people who do real T'shuva and not phony Jews.

After carrying babies in my own body for 9 months each (sometimes a little longer) there is no way on G-d's earth that I will allow anyone to touch a hair on their heads or harm them, or their babies, or anyone else's babies for that matter. After experiencing the miracle of bringing children into this world, the protective instincts of mothers are fierce and strong. NO WE don't have pity on those who CHOOSE to hurt and abuse children. NO WE don't have pity on those who steal their childhoods from them. NO WE don't have pity on those who rob them of their possible normal and successful futures! NO WE don't have pity on those who possibly rob them of their mental health and also their lives! We save our pity for those they hurt!

I am sure there are fathers out there who feel this way too, but I can only speak from a woman's perspective!

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 05:11 PM Sherree Says:

Reply to #109  
loxmatoe_uebische Says:

Sander Says:
“I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair."

Are you kidding me? One of the kids was seven when the abuse began. Are you saying that the seven year old was dropping acid like a fiend and forced poor Saint Emanuel to engage in a "course of sexual conduct against a child in the first degree" as described in N.Y. Penal Law §130.75(1)(a)? If I met you on Avenue J at the stroke of high noon, I would punch you in the face on the basis of your comment.

Please don't say Avenue J because people actually acknowledge that things happen there. Maybe say "Lee Avenue".

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 05:19 PM monalisa Says:

Sherree, if anyone wants to see their name in print, it's you. Can't you just stop telling us all what to do and how to do it. you are so annoying.

I don't know anything about this case, but I want to know what will happen to this man's wife & children, his parents & siblings? Who is helping them? They are also victims. He is facing serious jail time, why should his poor family be "imprisoned" as well?

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 05:45 PM clear-thinker Says:

Reply to #106  
Anonymous Says:

and if he was a goy, abusing frum kids, what would you say then???

He should be in prison. The key should be thrown away. The death penalty is too good. However, since his is Jewish why make his family suffer.
I forgot that #2 might add that it was probably the three boys fault since a Jew wouldn't do these things.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 05:47 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #62  
Sander Says:

It really sad that out of so many posts, there is almost none that may have a doubt that he may be not guilty or may be not such a monster as some people portrait him. I see most of the posts are written by one person, who is very involved with victim's family. I happened to know Emanuel for many years, and I refuse to believe all of you who don't know anything about case and still spread lies and empty accusations about him. I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair. I'm happy that victims family will have wedding in the family, but I can not stop thinking what will happen to Emanuel's family. Even if he is guilty as charged, his family's life is ruined, his poor wife, and poor 3 little daughters won't have a husband, father around. All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him.

I have stopped and thought about his wife and poor three daughters. The problem is that I come back to the three victims who the jury believed. I do not blame Emanuel for everything. Only the crimes he has been convicted of.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 08:46 PM yemenite Says:

I don't care what he did, a yid doesn't belong in prison, and certainly for that long. He should be given chance to do teshuva and do good to redeem himself. I just can't imagine what he'll face in prison surrounded by goyim.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 09:14 PM Joeshmoethetruthseeker Says:

Reply to #116  
monalisa Says:

Sherree, if anyone wants to see their name in print, it's you. Can't you just stop telling us all what to do and how to do it. you are so annoying.

I don't know anything about this case, but I want to know what will happen to this man's wife & children, his parents & siblings? Who is helping them? They are also victims. He is facing serious jail time, why should his poor family be "imprisoned" as well?

Monalisa, his wife, children and rest of his family are his victims too. They are not victims of the system or anyone else but him. If he has any good in him at all, he should give his wife a get and let her move on. Least he can do now.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 09:35 PM Joeshmoethetruthseeker Says:

Reply to #119  
yemenite Says:

I don't care what he did, a yid doesn't belong in prison, and certainly for that long. He should be given chance to do teshuva and do good to redeem himself. I just can't imagine what he'll face in prison surrounded by goyim.

He is a rotzeach, equivalent of murder. He destroyed 3 innocent souls for his physical pleasures. He had a chance to do teshuva, instead he chose to put the victims and their whole family through mud and garbage. He has a last chance now before sentencing, but doubt he has the gutts for that.

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 Dec 04, 2012 at 10:59 PM BaruchBendit Says:

Reply to #21  
clear-thinker Says:

What do you think this person did? He sexually abused 3 young boys over the course of ten years. What do you think the sentence should be? A time out? You and number 2 clearly think that a frum man can do no wrong. I wonder if you would feel the same way if it was your children who were abused.
Perhaps it is not Hynes who went overboard but Yegutkin.

You are forgetting that Yegutkin himself is a Ba'Al Tshuver. Cut him some slack.

Don't forget, he was machpid on Cholov Yisroel, Yashon, and Pas Yisroel. And he wore a black hat and wore his tsitsis out.

He can't be expected to do EVERYTHING right!

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 Dec 05, 2012 at 01:23 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #119  
yemenite Says:

I don't care what he did, a yid doesn't belong in prison, and certainly for that long. He should be given chance to do teshuva and do good to redeem himself. I just can't imagine what he'll face in prison surrounded by goyim.

You are so right! A yid doesn't belong in prison! The three boys he molested should not have to be living in a "prison", suffering with their trauma for the rest of their lives because of this monster!! Just remember that criminals, like him belong in prison, but innocent children DO NOT belong in prison!!! And of course he should do Teshuva!! But it doesn't mean other children should be at risk as he "does his Teshuva" . Hashem can hear that he's sorry even from his jail cell!

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 Dec 05, 2012 at 02:26 AM The-Macher Says:

74 is a troll/red herring. Yasher koiach to all of you who fell for it (no, it was not my work but it took me 1 second to figure it out.)

Actually, if Yegutkin really did stop when he got married, an appropriate punishment may be chemical castration after 15 years or so in the can. However, I doubt that is the case, and the world is better off with him behind bars forever.

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 Dec 05, 2012 at 08:21 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #104  
Sherree Says:

When this pedophile asks mechila from those he hurt, and asks the prison for therapy, at that time I will feel some sense of rachmonus on him for his stupidity and foolishness. If he shows true remorse and suffers the pain of his actions and not only the pain of his punishment then I will show rachmonus for him, but not before he does true teshuva.

Please. We have zero business addressing whether he does teshuvah or not. No Rav or beis din can involve the concept of teshuvah in dealing with any offense. That is for HKB"H and whatever police He will designate (i.e., no human being). If he committed the crime, we are guided by Shulchan Aruch how to address this, and in this case, where he was a serial molester, we are clearly told to hand him off to the secular authorities. I feel bad that any Yid fell into this, but sympathy has no place here. Let HKB"H respond to his pleas for rachmonus. I won't.

Asking mechila is also cracked up to be something indicative of remorse. How can one know that? Doing this requires extensive internal work (therapy, etc.) and assumes the victim is similarly prepared to grant that forgiveness. Big assumptions. And you do recall what ASSUME means.

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 Dec 05, 2012 at 11:15 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #116  
monalisa Says:

Sherree, if anyone wants to see their name in print, it's you. Can't you just stop telling us all what to do and how to do it. you are so annoying.

I don't know anything about this case, but I want to know what will happen to this man's wife & children, his parents & siblings? Who is helping them? They are also victims. He is facing serious jail time, why should his poor family be "imprisoned" as well?

Monalisa, Though I agree with Sherree a lot of the time, on this issue she seems to have a bug up her...nose.
She seems to be overdosing on feminism.
She has something against men, and it's coming out on this post.
She seems to harp incessantly about being a woman.
What she doesn't realize is that with 2 sets of comments here, TWELVE IN A ROW and EIGHT IN A ROW!, respectively; nobody has any doubts as to her gender!

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 Dec 05, 2012 at 01:22 PM SFPHH Says:

Dear Mr Realist

He always knew he was Jewish. He was involved with organization which did kiruv work in Minsk before coming to US. Yes as a 17 year old Emanuel he was" experimenting" (if at all it is acceptable in your world. But what about the accusations after he was married? Lets say looking at the counts which Emanuel was found guilty lets say dated in 2005, while he was married with a child? What then he was still experimenting on his urges? Or was he taking advantage and destroying, murdering, Yidishe neshumes???? Also do you really believe that a 7 year old boy experiments??? Seriously ? you call your self a realist, but from what I see is denial.

Another point; from what I hear there was a classmate testified during the trial that there was improper behavior during high school years. And yes that sets a pattern.

It is terrifying for Emanuel's family. We a s rachmonim have to help the family, so let him do the right thing give a GET and we as a community will lick our wounds and move on. Most importantly to learn a very important lesson that we must watch over our kinderlach and look into our leadership.

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 Dec 05, 2012 at 07:17 PM REALIST Says:

Reply to #128  
SFPHH Says:

Dear Mr Realist

He always knew he was Jewish. He was involved with organization which did kiruv work in Minsk before coming to US. Yes as a 17 year old Emanuel he was" experimenting" (if at all it is acceptable in your world. But what about the accusations after he was married? Lets say looking at the counts which Emanuel was found guilty lets say dated in 2005, while he was married with a child? What then he was still experimenting on his urges? Or was he taking advantage and destroying, murdering, Yidishe neshumes???? Also do you really believe that a 7 year old boy experiments??? Seriously ? you call your self a realist, but from what I see is denial.

Another point; from what I hear there was a classmate testified during the trial that there was improper behavior during high school years. And yes that sets a pattern.

It is terrifying for Emanuel's family. We a s rachmonim have to help the family, so let him do the right thing give a GET and we as a community will lick our wounds and move on. Most importantly to learn a very important lesson that we must watch over our kinderlach and look into our leadership.

POINT BY POINT ANSWER:
I know that he was told at about age 10 about his roots. But we wont debate fact.

No. Sexual experimentation is NOT acceptable in my world (which is the same world as yours, I suspect), but as a REALIST, I realize that it does take place, and with alarming frequency. Feel free to verify this with anyone in the educational world, black hat yeshivos included, sorry to say.

Again, we cannot debate facts! They were engaged in March of 2004. Got married just before the start of 2005. First child was born some time in 2006.
Wanna play your 'Let's say' game when the facts don't support you?

Granted. If these despicable acts were done, he ruined yiddishe neshamos, and has to pay the price. Maybe...just maybe, the sentence meted out by the judge, come sentencing day, is HKB"H's method with which to punish Emanuel on this world, so that IF he did real teshuva, he can be somewhat cleansed by the time he stands in final judgement.

I am not in denial! Yes!! Seven year olds can AND DO experiment these days!!
I wish all you laymen would get your collective heads out of the sand!
CONTINUED...

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 Dec 05, 2012 at 07:30 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #128  
SFPHH Says:

Dear Mr Realist

He always knew he was Jewish. He was involved with organization which did kiruv work in Minsk before coming to US. Yes as a 17 year old Emanuel he was" experimenting" (if at all it is acceptable in your world. But what about the accusations after he was married? Lets say looking at the counts which Emanuel was found guilty lets say dated in 2005, while he was married with a child? What then he was still experimenting on his urges? Or was he taking advantage and destroying, murdering, Yidishe neshumes???? Also do you really believe that a 7 year old boy experiments??? Seriously ? you call your self a realist, but from what I see is denial.

Another point; from what I hear there was a classmate testified during the trial that there was improper behavior during high school years. And yes that sets a pattern.

It is terrifying for Emanuel's family. We a s rachmonim have to help the family, so let him do the right thing give a GET and we as a community will lick our wounds and move on. Most importantly to learn a very important lesson that we must watch over our kinderlach and look into our leadership.

CONTINUED:
To quote you, "from what I hear", is not admissible in court, Bais Din, and we all agree is probably a collosal pile of BS. You lower youself by even mentioning it.

You want to help the family by getting her a get?!!!?
Why don't you ask her if she wants one at this juncture?
Why don't we all stay out of other people's private lives?
Say Tehillim for them all.
For the victims, for the wife, for the children, and, yes, for Emanuel too.
That is called Rachmonus.

Lastly, your last line about our leadership smacks of an ax to grind.
If you have a problem with any or all of our leaders, bring it up at an appropriate time and place. Leadership was not mentioned here at all. And remember, "P'nay hador k'p'nay hakelev".

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 Dec 05, 2012 at 09:19 PM Joeshmoethetruthseeker Says:

Reply to #77  
jacksax Says:

I know the boys and the yudgutkutkins very well. Any one that comments on this story without knowing the true story is a complete idiot . Yudkutkin is not only innocent ..he is a very unfotunate victim of some of the sickist people out there .. If someones and abuser they should b prosecuted ..in this case its not yudgutkin

Seems like you don't know him at all. If you knew the boys and Yegutkin at the age when this all started, you would be singing a different tune.

Did you actually here the other side of the story? Did you try to talk to the children that accused him and hear their side of the story? Tried to get details from Police and find out the evidence against him? Did you read his confession? Did you speak to the detective he confessed to?

You are the complete idiot you that is commenting on the story without knowing it at all.

And if the kids you sent to play at his house are little boys, you should be arrested for neglect.

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 Dec 05, 2012 at 09:21 PM Joeshmoethetruthseeker Says:

Reply to #129  
REALIST Says:

POINT BY POINT ANSWER:
I know that he was told at about age 10 about his roots. But we wont debate fact.

No. Sexual experimentation is NOT acceptable in my world (which is the same world as yours, I suspect), but as a REALIST, I realize that it does take place, and with alarming frequency. Feel free to verify this with anyone in the educational world, black hat yeshivos included, sorry to say.

Again, we cannot debate facts! They were engaged in March of 2004. Got married just before the start of 2005. First child was born some time in 2006.
Wanna play your 'Let's say' game when the facts don't support you?

Granted. If these despicable acts were done, he ruined yiddishe neshamos, and has to pay the price. Maybe...just maybe, the sentence meted out by the judge, come sentencing day, is HKB"H's method with which to punish Emanuel on this world, so that IF he did real teshuva, he can be somewhat cleansed by the time he stands in final judgement.

I am not in denial! Yes!! Seven year olds can AND DO experiment these days!!
I wish all you laymen would get your collective heads out of the sand!
CONTINUED...

Seven year olds experiment with 17 year olds? Are you freaking kidding me?

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 Dec 05, 2012 at 11:17 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
Avrohomk Says:

The problem is if you let him out what stops him from doing it again? How else do we protect our children?

You are quite correct. If let out, such a person would continue to molest children.

However, your implicit argument is not quite correct, since there are any number of major crimes, like rape and murder, which someone convicted of will most likely continue to do, as upon their releases they will probably not be accepting appointments to Boards of Directors at major corporations as their new parnasas.

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 Dec 06, 2012 at 01:50 AM Sol-Sol Says:

Reply to #62  
Sander Says:

It really sad that out of so many posts, there is almost none that may have a doubt that he may be not guilty or may be not such a monster as some people portrait him. I see most of the posts are written by one person, who is very involved with victim's family. I happened to know Emanuel for many years, and I refuse to believe all of you who don't know anything about case and still spread lies and empty accusations about him. I happened to know the victims family, including the children who were involved, and you can not really say the were "fine frum boys" because they were involved in many things including drugs etc from the early ages and to blame Emanuel for everything is not fair. I'm happy that victims family will have wedding in the family, but I can not stop thinking what will happen to Emanuel's family. Even if he is guilty as charged, his family's life is ruined, his poor wife, and poor 3 little daughters won't have a husband, father around. All of you who are attacking him and wish him to rot in jail, think for a second about his children. I think he deserves much less punishment that you suggest here, and yes, I will not afraid to have my children near him.

I happen to agree with most of your comment! Even if this man is guilty as can be, we should still look out to help his family. After all, we are Rachmunim Bnei Rachmanim! Its not his wife & kids fault "at all"!!

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 Dec 06, 2012 at 02:02 AM truejudge Says:

For all those of you screaming "guilty", consider this:
Sexual abuse cases are the only type of cases where no physical evidence is needed and a conviction is solely based on the word of the victim and the opinions of the members of a jury. So although it may be true that a molester should pay for his crimes, there is no way for any of us to ascertain whether those crimes actually took place! Unfortunately, there is no good solution to this problem; On the one hand, we don't want molesters on the street, on the other hand, we don't want innocent people sitting in jail!

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 Dec 06, 2012 at 02:05 AM true judge Says:

It is also an unfortunate and well-known fact that children (no matter their age) cannot always be trusted to tell the truth. There are many documented cases of men and women who sat in jail for years before their accusers admitted to having lied and/or being coerced into saying those lies. (Watch the movies: "Just Ask My Children" based on a true story and "Witch Hunt" a documentary on this topic.) Also, very often, those being accused are coerced into signing confessions by investigators, who convince them that it is in their best interest to sign as it will possibly avoid the embarrassment of a trial (which is, of course, untrue). Google "falsely accused of sexual abuse" and you will find many such stories.

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 Dec 06, 2012 at 02:13 AM truejudge Says:

Basically, please be careful with what you say/write regarding this or other such cases. Just because a man has been convicted in a court of law, it does NOT mean he is guilty. All you are doing with your mean comments is causing pain to his poor wife and children.
I pray that Hashem, the True Judge, exonerate the innocent, and spare their families the pain of a conviction. I also pray that those who are TRUE victims of abuse, should heal and be zochim to build batei neemanim b'yisrael!

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 Dec 06, 2012 at 11:25 AM REALIST Says:

Reply to #137  
truejudge Says:

Basically, please be careful with what you say/write regarding this or other such cases. Just because a man has been convicted in a court of law, it does NOT mean he is guilty. All you are doing with your mean comments is causing pain to his poor wife and children.
I pray that Hashem, the True Judge, exonerate the innocent, and spare their families the pain of a conviction. I also pray that those who are TRUE victims of abuse, should heal and be zochim to build batei neemanim b'yisrael!

Could not have said it better! Shkoyach.

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