New York – Brooklyn DA Addresses Satmar Rebbe Over Remarks On Williamsburg Abuse Case

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    Talk-radio host Zev Brenner poses with Brooklyn DA Charles Hynes after an Interview Dec. 4 2012New York – In an audio interview obtained by VIN News, to be aired on Zev Brenner’s Talkline program tonight, Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes makes the unprecedented move of taking the Satmar Rebbe to task for his recent comments on the Weberman case, calling the Rebbe’s words “inappropriate.”

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    According to reports that have been circulating for the past few days, which were also quoted today in the New York Post, the Satmar Grand Rebbe, Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum, seemed to be voicing his disapproval for the victim at a fundraiser this past weekend.

    Hynes expressed his disappointment at the Rebbe’s words, describing the Rebbe as a prominent religious leader, and urged the Satmar Rebbe to avoid statements of this kind in the future.

    “If he had paid any attention to the objective reporting that was found in the daily newspapers and the facts on the table he would not have come to that conclusion,” said Hynes.

    Hynes praised the leadership of the Crown Heights community for issuing a ruling stating that in cases of child molestation, everyone has an obligation to come forward and report the abuse and expressed his frustration that leaders in Williamsburg have not followed suit.

    “It is just not right to shun someone who has been sexually violated,” declared Hynes. “There should be support for the victims, not the defendants.”

    DA Hynes also added that three of the four men who were arrested last week for photographing the victim while she was testifying on the witness stand will be prosecuted to fullest extent of the law for judicial contempt, a misdemeanor. If convicted, each of the three men could be facing a one year jail term.

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    11 years ago

    Don’t believe everything you read.

    ALTERG
    ALTERG
    11 years ago

    What’s going on here? Aren’t in the USA a law freedom of speach? Thanks satmar rabba for being the first one to come out & not be afraid this means a REAL leader

    itzik18
    itzik18
    11 years ago

    Rabbi Weberman is the victim here, a victim of being falsely accused of a crime he did not commit by a vengeful girl. She should have all of the onesh of an eid zomem because by making up these stories she is putting real victims in danger, because real abusers can say they were framed just as she is framing Rabbi Weberman.

    rikki
    Member
    rikki
    11 years ago

    It’s always preposterous to make assumptions and comments when you haven’t heard both sides of a story. It can come back to bite you….real hard!!!! it’s hard to admit that a huge mistake was made. If the Satmar community would have just let the case be tried without all this hoopla, there wouldn’t be such negative publicity for them on top of this horrible crime.

    Moshe10
    Moshe10
    11 years ago

    Go ahead Charles Hynes keep up the good work of putting the criminals and there sporters in jail.
    The once who try keep in under the rugs are responsible for the Chulul Hsem

    lalakishkish
    lalakishkish
    11 years ago

    What’s going on here?????? Isn’t it that “innocent until proven guilty”??? Isn’t the first right of a person in the USA to express what he feels to???? This going over the boarder line!!! Whether Weberman is guilty or not NO ONE of us know! So what is this jumping to conclusions???

    11 years ago

    Objective reporting in the Media?

    What a joke. Next he will say there is objective reporting on the blogs.

    Sherree
    Sherree
    11 years ago

    If you want to compare the situation to the Parsha as he began to, then lets do so. Dina, the daughter of Yakov and Leah, our Holy Avos and Imahos, was raped by Shchem. Who witnessed that? Her word was good enough and her brothers avenged her not only by killing her abuser but by wiping out ALL the males of her community!!! Shimon and Levi were heroes, they got rewarded for defending their sister’s honor!!! That is the story of the parsha!!!

    enlightened-yid
    enlightened-yid
    11 years ago

    How dare you Mr. Hynes say something against the Satmar Rebbe? He is an omnipotent, saintly leader who always knows what comes out of his mouth because his holy wisdom is guided by Torah. The Satmar community doesn’t have sexual abusers and victims don’t exist. These victims are confused teenage girls who want attention and accuse holy men of wrong doing.

    11 years ago

    If those youngster(bumas) out-there are allowed to run around and bash and bashmitz the hassidic community,why aren’t we allowed to say what ever we want???is this fair ?
    As bad people

    yossi10952
    yossi10952
    11 years ago

    what i really don’t understand is how can anyone in the world say what happened here?? not on the good side and not on the bad side!!
    Anyone who takes a side here has no clue how wrong he can do if he protects the accuser can hurt the abuser so badly and the other way around!!
    so everyone please shut up!! and wait till the verdict and then start talking!! including the big rabbi!!

    Ayin_Tachas_Ayin
    Ayin_Tachas_Ayin
    11 years ago

    It’s my understanding – that this case differs from the majority of cases as Mr. Weberman has a clean record with no other people coming forward. Innocent until proven guilty should be the motto. Also, #6 – she didn’t come to complain to the Rabbi so why should he need to listen to her side?

    PowerUp
    PowerUp
    11 years ago

    right, only the post is allowed to call rabbi weberman creep and perv. and thats totally allowed, shame on you dr. hynes, sina mkalkeles es hashira

    frumgal
    frumgal
    11 years ago

    Why and how do you know Weberman is innocent? I can’t say 100% about this case, but ask everyone who takes care of these issues. Therapists, rabbonim and more. There were A LOT of complaints against him but no one dared come out. How could they ?? Everyone says that more people should come fwd. REally?? With all this intimidation? With everyone assuming hes innocent just cause he looks like an erliche person?
    WAKE UP. Not everyone who looks frum and pious really is. I know this from very painful personal experience. Not everyone can take their abuser to task for various reasons. It takes extreme courage to. Especially with the backlash from the community.
    I have also personally spoken to more of his victims. There are a lot of people like me in the community who know the truth and its so painful and hurtful hearing everyone deny it. Especially a leader. HOw could he? Did he listen to her part of the story? Did he try to get evidence? Lots of victims would come fwd and anonymously tell him what happened. If he would want to hear. I can arrange it. Many others can. Some have tried to come fwd and nothing is being done to help.
    Dont be stupid an do some research!

    joana
    joana
    11 years ago

    As someone who has been victimized badly in the community, I must say that this story is a situation that may just backfire and do the opposite that should be accomplished.
    We all know about molesters in the community going around freely.
    Taking this case on Weberman as an example for the community is just giving the real molesters a freeway.
    There are so much external facts in this case that it’s very hard to believe that this is not a setup.
    Look at her youth, her first boy friend, her second boyfriends arrest in Rodney, her father’s business fight, the other let go cases from the DA’s office, there protests, Rosenberg’s hotline, the press against Heinz etc……
    The motive seems different here then a true abuse case.

    jayclass
    jayclass
    11 years ago

    I WAS THERE! All that the Satmar Rebbe said was that it’s a very painful situation and a shameful chilul hashem and he did not give right to any side at all, I don’t understand the stupidity of DA Hynes for taking some crap from enemies of the rebbe to blackmail him with this false accusations when all he said was that it’s a painful story that is a terrible chilul hashem a disgrace to gods name. Isn’t he correct? “DA HYNES YOU OWE AN APOLOGY TO THE SATMAR REBBE” As an experienced DA you should have better brains to understand that you are being used by the zalmonites for political reasons to blackmail the satmar rebbe with false accusations. I WAS THERE AND IT’S ALSO ON TAPE! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WHAT HE SAID! PERIOD!

    chaim14
    chaim14
    11 years ago

    As sad as the crime in question is, and whether the accused did anything wrong at all still remains to be seen, let’s bear in mind that hilchos lashon hara l’toeles only allows when the punishment is in accordance with the Torah, not if it is worse. My Torah only entitles the girl to money (and to be married to this fellow, if she/her father choose). Getting even a guilty man (which he may or not be) thrown into prison is not so simple. Unless someone is accusing him of being a rodef, what is the heter to go to the police?

    CountryYossi
    CountryYossi
    11 years ago

    Tonight Kuf Alef Kislef is the day when the Satmere rebbes usually give their State of the Union speech…I am sure Reb Aron will definite talk about what he meant motzei shabbos when he gave his speech in KJ.
    Ren Aron and any other rabunim are NOT looking for any confortation with Charles Hynes and i am sure he will defend his position..Meanwhile lets sit tight and hear his defense…The Rebbe was not afraid on Bloomie when it came to Metzitze Bepeh and he wasnt intimidated when all gedoyle hador tried to convince him to join in Citifield.
    He has his Das Torah and when he speaks he talks to HIS people.
    His speeches dosent condem Charles Hynes office and dosent defend any molesters.
    This case is a tragedy for Klal Yisroel and especially for Satmar (both sides of satmar)…The media is having a ball by bashing Orthodox jews and i am sure this chilil hashem could of been avoided if the Yeshivas would of had a stricter supervision HOW and WHO give therapy to troubled kids in their school systems.
    I think the gedoyle Hador should make a Yoim Tefillah and maybe half day Tanis or Pidyen Nefesh for this terrible horrible chilil hashem …….

    Butterfly
    Butterfly
    11 years ago

    To #2 Innocent until proven guilty!! Let the court system do its job!!

    TheRealJoe123
    TheRealJoe123
    11 years ago

    DA Hynes with his inside knowledge of the Frum community, and with the help of his Frum ADA’s has managed to play everyone….
    He’s scared about possibly having a tough reelection fight he’s used to cruising to victory. I don’t believe the Satmer Rebbe word’s where translated right so YES I hope he clarifies his statements. Tonight’s protest is silly, Don’t create an environment for Weberman to ask for a mistrial. Abuse is REAL problem in the Frum community, B”H we are moving in the right direction on the issue, however change doesn’t happen over night, and we also need to be vigilant not to get into the witch hunt mentality.

    Benny
    Benny
    11 years ago

    “Hynes praised the leadership of the Crown Heights community for issuing a ruling stating that in cases of child molestation, everyone has an obligation to come forward and report the abuse and expressed his frustration that leaders in Williamsburg have not followed suit.”
    I think all agree the molester has to be reported, just let the Bais Din first clarify that is the case, and not some kind of a distressed juror’s decision based in his feeling, or some kind of a act of the official based on his emotions he got from last night “soap opera” or fight with his girlfriend.

    Normal
    Normal
    11 years ago

    #19 said “I have also personally spoken to more of his victims. There are a lot of people like me in the community who know the truth and its so painful and hurtful hearing everyone deny it. Especially a leader. HOw could he? Did he listen to her part of the story? Did he try to get evidence? Lots of victims would come fwd and anonymously tell him what happened. If he would want to hear. I can arrange it. Many others can. Some have tried to come fwd and nothing is being done to help. “

    It is very important that other victims go to the police and make a statement if he is guilty and you don’t want him to reoffend.

    shredready
    shredready
    11 years ago

    Freedom of speech does not mean one cannot be criticized for their speech

    in addition, can anybody quote the satmar Rebbie ever supported the accuser or even a known victim? Has there ever been a case when he spoke against the accused, Even after conviction?

    11 years ago

    These days, going against any rabbi is considered the greatest act of selfishness in the world of any human being according to the ways of the illicit. Somewhere we need justice.

    11 years ago

    All everyone here has to know is this: The NYPD has a lot of experience in interrogation techniques and if they thought that the girl’s accusations were inconsistent and would not hold up in court, Weberman would have never been arrested. That being said, why would anyone go thru the hassle of accusing someone for no monetary reasons whatsoever? Just to get revenge?? The fact is that the girl was offered $500,000 to drop the case and she refused. So it’s obvious she has nothing to gain by her accusations. Now, looking at this objectively, a person just does not offer that kind of money unless he has something to hide. If Weberman is really as innocent as he claims, why doesn’t he submit to a polygraph test and use the results as partial evidence for vindication? The girl may be off the derech, but isn’t it also possible that the accused is just putting on a charade and is morally corrupt internally?

    In most arguments, all you have to do is follow the money trail to determine motivations. Here, since the girl refused a half a million dollars to drop the case, it’s obvious she is seeking justice and not revenge as the accused has claimed.

    memberhere
    memberhere
    11 years ago

    Since when does Charles Hynes quote the Daily News? Yaniv of Daily News sits in court and hears all testimony and knows the contradictions. . What he does is write what all like to read. Which is surely not TRUTH> He skips items of truth when he thinks it wont pull readership.

    How Sad.

    aleph
    aleph
    11 years ago

    Cont… So the message to us is to strengthen our adherence to all mitzvos, including yichud in business etc. (which I’m not sure he violated) because hashem said so, and if we’re not perfect it affects Jews everywhere and they slip even further.
    tomorrow is another day, and despite the odds I still hope after all the defense testimony the jury will see the truth and acquit him. I especially can’t wait to hear her former bf’s testimony when all of a sudden the tables will turn and you’ll be screaming it’s “only revenge”.
    The “money trail” some keep on referencing is inadmissible in court for a reason. Either you believe in our justice system and don’t bring it up, or think it’s fallible and misguided so why bother going to court? (for those that don’t know, those allegedly offering her husband the money were NOT doing so on weberman’s bidding that’s why it can’t be mentioned in court. And they really felt he’s innocent but probably doubted our justice system and wanted to avoid this chillul hashem of a trial, no guilty conscience at all.)

    jacob
    jacob
    11 years ago

    Hynes should get into all the alter boys and priests instead of the .001 % in the Jewish Comunity. We have to stop making ez targets of ourselves. The satmar rebbe is right and according with Halacha. Stop the mesera now.

    funnsmart1
    funnsmart1
    11 years ago

    AM I the only one who read this line in the article?
    ““If he had paid any attention to the objective reporting that was found in the daily newspapers and the facts on the table he would not have come to that conclusion,” said Hynes.”

    Objective reporting??
    Puleeze!

    sissel613
    sissel613
    11 years ago

    I have a few things to say. Number 1–if he was in yichud with this girl with a locked door–not good, folks. Number 2–Satmar community as well as everyone else in Williamsburg, Boro Park, Flatbush, Lakewood, Monroe, New Square, Monsey and any other place that calls itself a frum stronghold–if you think for one second that there is no molestation in these communities, then you are all hiding under a rock and don’t want to admit that the problem unfortunately exists in all communities–frum, non frum, muslim, christians. It is just there!!! The more these people are coddled, the more these disgusting and scarring for life episodes will continue. Number 3–How could the young girl go to the Rebbe when he doesn’t meet with women? Her father couldn’t go in her place since he didn’t believe her either. Number 4–there were 2 other girls who said they were molested by him as well, however they were too intimidated to testify against him. Number 5–Someone tried to “pay” the girl off to get rid of the case. If that isn’t an admission of guilt, then I don’t know what is.
    I hope and daven that this young girl can get on with her life and everyone gets what he deserves.Hashem Yerachem

    Tzi_Bar_David
    Tzi_Bar_David
    11 years ago

    Number 60, he should go after ALL of them. Even by your count the 99.99% goy (which is laughable) and the 0.001% Yidden. These are crimes that have been hidden in all communities for far too long. The only time people ridicule you is when you deny it is happening.

    from-here_to-there
    from-here_to-there
    11 years ago

    Sherree – you surely you understand. to some people what you wear on the outside is what counts and the inside feelings are meaningless. So a man or woman wears the right suit of clothes, the right style hat, speaks the right language with the right dialect and does it all for show is the superior person to a person who may have proper emunah, proper behavior, follows halacha (inside and outside the house) if this person has the unmitigated gall to not wear the same uniform.

    These phony headlines “Religious man goes to jail for”… ponzi scheme or mortgage fraud… sorry he wears the suit but the suit does not make him religious – the behaviors and actions do and a thief and a rapist are not religious people.

    If there are many young folks truly going off the derech – my speculation is because there are many older folks (role models – and I don’t mean their parents) are OTD but not labeled because they still wear the garb and they think they are fooling others. they may fool there spouse and their Rebbe but they are not fooling the young folks.