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Israel - 3,000 Charedim Enlisted Into Israeli Military

Published on: January 3, 2013 02:07 PM
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File photo of Ultra-Orthodox Jews donating blood during a military exercise carried out by the Israeli Home Front Command in the relgiious neighborhood of Mea Shearim in Jerusalem. EPA/NATI SHOHATFile photo of Ultra-Orthodox Jews donating blood during a military exercise carried out by the Israeli Home Front Command in the relgiious neighborhood of Mea Shearim in Jerusalem. EPA/NATI SHOHAT

Israel - Approximately 3,000 haredim were enlisted into the IDF and will begin active service by August 2013, Maj.-Gen. Orna Barbivai told Israel Radio Thursday.

The head of manpower in the IDF said that the ultra-orthodox youth who received call-up orders had previously deferred their military service for religious reasons, and that this would be the first year that thousands of haredim would be required to perform mandatory military service.

In December, a government proposal was approved to allow 1,300 haredi yeshiva students to enlist in the civilian service program as opposed to serving in the military, but was greeted with widespread outrage from IDF draft reform advocates.

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The decision was enacted in order to stymie the fall-off in numbers of recruits serving in the civilian service program following the expiration of the “Tal Law” this past August. The number of active civilian service personnel currently stands at 1,450, down from 2,026 before the law expired.

The Tal Law created a legal framework for an estimated 54,000 full-time yeshiva students to indefinitely defer military service, but also established the civilian service program for haredi recruits in order to provide part of the solution to the low rate of ultra-Orthodox participation in national service programs.

Since no new legislation has been passed by the Knesset to replace the Tal Law – which was struck down by the High Court of Justice in February as unconstitutional – the 1949 Military Service Law (amended in 1986) mandating compulsory military service for all citizens reaching the age of 18 is now operative.


Content is provided courtesy of the Jerusalem Post


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 Jan 03, 2013 at 02:29 PM Anonymous Says:

Best of luck to these youngsters.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 02:29 PM radrad Says:

Kein Yirbu!!
Enough is enough-if you keep the depressed and poor it is no different than Saudia Arabia and the like

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 02:39 PM Yiddl Says:

Lets c now what the frei will complain about.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 02:43 PM DavidCohen Says:

My utmost respect and admiration for these trailblazers. Wishing them only the best.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 02:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Kol hakovod to these brave young men and women who recognize their obligations to contribute the security of EY, protect their families and hopefully learn useful job and social skills while serving in the IDF. It takes special courage in the Chareidi kehillah to go against all the big rabbonim who counsel against joining the IDF. May the have much hatzlacha and be safe and return to their communities as agents of positive change to a society badly in need of change.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 02:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
radrad Says:

Kein Yirbu!!
Enough is enough-if you keep the depressed and poor it is no different than Saudia Arabia and the like

The whole idea of making a state based on religious identity is what is like saudi arabia. Being Jewish should have nothing to do with any government anywhere, especially in Eretz HaKodesh where it is assur al pi Torah.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 02:57 PM jacob Says:

Hatzlocha and thank you to all idf

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 03:18 PM Reb Yid Says:

I don't get that picture. Why is a guy with some sort of officer insignia holding an automatic weapon in the middle of a blood draw?

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 03:20 PM 5TResident Says:

Avraham Avinu and Dovid Hamelech went to war. Yaakov Avinu prepared for war with Eisav.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 03:23 PM CRITICISM Says:

All you need is one general like "Yehoshua" to be victorious.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 03:29 PM sechelyoshor Says:

What it interesting is that it appears that these young men are doing this all on their own, because the gedolim have told them not to enlist.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 03:51 PM MAYERFREUND Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

Kol hakovod to these brave young men and women who recognize their obligations to contribute the security of EY, protect their families and hopefully learn useful job and social skills while serving in the IDF. It takes special courage in the Chareidi kehillah to go against all the big rabbonim who counsel against joining the IDF. May the have much hatzlacha and be safe and return to their communities as agents of positive change to a society badly in need of change.

"It takes special courage in the Chareidi kehillah to go against all the big rabbonim"
You should write instead "It takes special chutzpah. . . .to go against all the big rabbonim"

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 04:01 PM Babishka Says:

Yashar koach to these brave young men!

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 04:07 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

Kol hakovod to these brave young men and women who recognize their obligations to contribute the security of EY, protect their families and hopefully learn useful job and social skills while serving in the IDF. It takes special courage in the Chareidi kehillah to go against all the big rabbonim who counsel against joining the IDF. May the have much hatzlacha and be safe and return to their communities as agents of positive change to a society badly in need of change.

Usually when one points the finger at others saying that they need to change, he is the one that really needs to change.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 04:36 PM shredready Says:

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DavidCohen Says:

My utmost respect and admiration for these trailblazers. Wishing them only the best.

hopefully they do not a backlash from the community

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 04:37 PM shedready Says:

Reply to #12  
MAYERFREUND Says:

"It takes special courage in the Chareidi kehillah to go against all the big rabbonim"
You should write instead "It takes special chutzpah. . . .to go against all the big rabbonim"

maybe but remember rabbonim are Human

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 05:11 PM MAYERFREUND Says:

Reply to #16  
shedready Says:

maybe but remember rabbonim are Human

True! but they have the daas torah and si'yateh dishmaye.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 06:51 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
MAYERFREUND Says:

"It takes special courage in the Chareidi kehillah to go against all the big rabbonim"
You should write instead "It takes special chutzpah. . . .to go against all the big rabbonim"

Actually, the rabbonim who have urged the kollel yungerleit not to serve in the IDF are the ones who show arrogance and disdain for their communities and the nation as a whole. These bochurim have no job skills and very little hope of supporting their families. The rabbonim are condemning them to a life of poverty and social dysfunction.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 08:01 PM Snagged Says:

Boruch hashem that there are more people machmir to serve in the army, a mitsva asei d'orayso according to the Ramban.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 09:17 PM RebKlemson Says:

its a misleading article, they are not actually charedim that were drafted. maybe "nachal charedi" or mizrachi/dati leumi soldiers. nobody out of mea shearim and beitar or bnei brak enlisted.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 11:20 PM invstm1000 Says:

Hashem yerachem. Torah in Israel is being attacked by a Jewish government.

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 Jan 03, 2013 at 11:44 PM PashutehYid Says:

I have mixed feelings, but lmayseh, how many suffering families from EY come to our doors in the USA because of parnasa problems? Going to the army will enable them to get job skills, and hopefully job placement when they finish. They will also have an opportunity to interact with the rest of the klal and make a kiddush hashem. This will hopefully inspire more of their fellow soldiers to become frum.

In Tanach, everybody was supposed to go except for a few exceptions, and Moshe was upset at the 2 1/2 shevatim whom he thought would settle b'ever hayarden without helping to fight. He told them Haatem teshvu poh vacheichem teitzu lamilchama? Only when they promised to participate in the effort did he grant them their wishes.

For whatever reason, the RBSH wanted people to worry about and be involved in worldly matters, and not only in learning. That's for the next world. Possibly because in this world chesed is king. Helping protect one's fellow yidden and provide for one's kinderlach is a huge mitzva. Just like one must take off time from learning to put on tefilin and get ready for shabbos, or go to a chasuna, etc.

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 Jan 04, 2013 at 09:00 AM clear-thinker Says:

Reply to #21  
invstm1000 Says:

Hashem yerachem. Torah in Israel is being attacked by a Jewish government.

You are wrong. Israel is falsely charged with attacking Torah. The Jewish government makes the study of Torah in Israel possible. In order for Torah to be studied there must be a defense of the country. The defense does not only depend on belief in Hashem, it includes its citizens defending the country.

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 Jan 04, 2013 at 09:34 AM sane Says:

The new Macabeem!

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 Jan 04, 2013 at 10:27 AM SF2K1 Says:

Reply to #20  
RebKlemson Says:

its a misleading article, they are not actually charedim that were drafted. maybe "nachal charedi" or mizrachi/dati leumi soldiers. nobody out of mea shearim and beitar or bnei brak enlisted.

You haven't met many Charedim out of Beitar apparently. They have a large population of Chardalniks.

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 Jan 04, 2013 at 12:50 PM bewhiskered Says:

Reply to #17  
MAYERFREUND Says:

True! but they have the daas torah and si'yateh dishmaye.

"they have the daas torah"

You know, everyone these days, seems to bandy about the term דעת תורה every which way possible! The long and short of it, is that this term דעת תורה is used only one time in all of ש"ס, in חולין צ ע"ב, concerning גיד הנשה. Do we really understand its meaning, or are we applying דעת תורה wherever it seems convenient to do so? It is essential to be precise with terminology, and not misrepresent the תורה.

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