“ “Most Americans agree that a president’s children should not be used as pawns in a political fight. But to go so far as to make the safety of the president’s children the subject of an attack ad is repugnant and cowardly,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

Why, there is a valid point here. The president wants our kids to go to unprotected public failing schools while his daughter go to fancy private schools that are well secured. ”

“ “Most Americans agree that a president’s children should not be used as pawns in a political fight. But to go so far as to make the safety of the president’s children the subject of an attack ad is repugnant and cowardly,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

Why, there is a valid point here. The president wants our kids to go to unprotected public failing schools while his daughter go to fancy private schools that are well secured. ”

“ As a Brit watching the gun control debate from across the pond, i think the the NRA has lost this debate big time (don't bother petitioning, i cant be deported anyway). The numbers speak for themselves. The USA has the highest gun murders in the western world. So yes, guns DO kill. The US constitution is not Toras Moshe and can be adapted to today's world. Besides, the President is not trying to take guns away, all he is trying to do it control it (hence the term gun control and gun banning). You do not need semi automatic rifles or 15 hand guns in your house to protect you. If there is someone living in your house who is taking medication for depression, you should not have gun your house for you own protection. I think the President is trying to do the sensible thing by having more government control on guns, and perhaps avoid another Sandy Hook. ”

“ As a Brit watching the gun control debate from across the pond, i think the the NRA has lost this debate big time (don't bother petitioning, i cant be deported anyway). The numbers speak for themselves. The USA has the highest gun murders in the western world. So yes, guns DO kill. The US constitution is not Toras Moshe and can be adapted to today's world. Besides, the President is not trying to take guns away, all he is trying to do it control it (hence the term gun control and gun banning). You do not need semi automatic rifles or 15 hand guns in your house to protect you. If there is someone living in your house who is taking medication for depression, you should not have gun your house for you own protection. I think the President is trying to do the sensible thing by having more government control on guns, and perhaps avoid another Sandy Hook. ”

“ As a Brit watching the gun control debate from across the pond, i think the the NRA has lost this debate big time (don't bother petitioning, i cant be deported anyway). The numbers speak for themselves. The USA has the highest gun murders in the western world. So yes, guns DO kill. The US constitution is not Toras Moshe and can be adapted to today's world. Besides, the President is not trying to take guns away, all he is trying to do it control it (hence the term gun control and gun banning). You do not need semi automatic rifles or 15 hand guns in your house to protect you. If there is someone living in your house who is taking medication for depression, you should not have gun your house for you own protection. I think the President is trying to do the sensible thing by having more government control on guns, and perhaps avoid another Sandy Hook. ”

“ Those "gun deaths" you refer to are about 55% suicide and 25% Gang related.
On suicide, you have no standing since in a recent poll in the UK, close to 75% of the population wanted to legalize assisted suicide. On Gang related deaths, those guns are and will always be attained illegally.

You are right, the Constitution can be changed for modern times, but it needs to go through the Amendment process (which involves a constitutional convention, 3/4 states ratification etc.). The president or congress do not have the power to "infringe" (2nd amendments exact word) on gun rights.

Also, the whole point in the second amendment is to protect personal liberty and give the people a chance to overthrow a tyrannical government. Freedom of the press and speech (part of the first amendment) is so sacrosanct to a Liberal and they go bonkers protecting it, the freedom to own guns (2nd amendment) has the same standing. They are picking and choosing which serves their purposes.

This is not about the kids or about theaters, it is about controlling the population.

Hitler came for the guns, Mao came for the guns, Stalin came for the guns. Why? So they wouldn't have any resistance. ”

“ The US Constitution is not Toras Moshe? What! Rabbi Rush and Rabbi Levin told me it is! Are you sure? I always thought the Torah was big on shooting defenseless wolves from helicopters... Rebbetzin Palin told me so! And did you dare to suggest that our precious Constitution written by men who owned slaves and muskets be amended?! Gasp! That has never happened to this divine holy book! Who are you to tell me I don't need 15 guns? A shande! I need all 15 of my perfectly polished macho machines to defend me against the oppressive government! Why they only have nuclear weapons, F-22 fighter jets, and aircraft carriers... I have my guns! boom, boom. You lousy Brit, you. Stop will all your statistics and data; you're making my head hurt! I need to go to the shooting range to clear my head. ”

“ The US Constitution is not Toras Moshe? What! Rabbi Rush and Rabbi Levin told me it is! Are you sure? I always thought the Torah was big on shooting defenseless wolves from helicopters... Rebbetzin Palin told me so! And did you dare to suggest that our precious Constitution written by men who owned slaves and muskets be amended?! Gasp! That has never happened to this divine holy book! Who are you to tell me I don't need 15 guns? A shande! I need all 15 of my perfectly polished macho machines to defend me against the oppressive government! Why they only have nuclear weapons, F-22 fighter jets, and aircraft carriers... I have my guns! boom, boom. You lousy Brit, you. Stop will all your statistics and data; you're making my head hurt! I need to go to the shooting range to clear my head. ”

“ "As a Brit watching the gun control debate from across the pond", you might not realize that the primary purpose of the Second Amendement is not personal protection, but resistance to opressive government. Armed citizenry is our last and most reliable line of defense. It may sound strange to a european ear, but this country is the "land of the free", and most people here are determined to preserve their freedoms, the results of last elections notwithstanding. Britain, by contract, is finished, nothing left to fight for. ”

“ You've got to be kidding me. As comment 11 points out, you can't protect yourself from or overthrow a tyrannical government with an AR-15. The government has drones and weapons that can blow out whole cities in seconds. This idea that you are going to "take on" the oppressive government with your farkakte hand gun is a joke that should be be laughed at. The point of guns in the US is to make paranoid insecure little people feel all-powerful buy enriching corporate gun manufactures with their expensive purchases. ”

“ Well once controls will be out the average citizen will not be able to buy a gun. As long as it is protected by law.
Much more ppl die from cars each day. Go on liberal nut jobs, ban that too. What this is, is the government getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I can imagine my children having to register and pay a tax every time they go to toilet etc..... ”

“ As a Brit watching the gun control debate from across the pond, i think the the NRA has lost this debate big time (don't bother petitioning, i cant be deported anyway). The numbers speak for themselves. The USA has the highest gun murders in the western world. So yes, guns DO kill. The US constitution is not Toras Moshe and can be adapted to today's world. Besides, the President is not trying to take guns away, all he is trying to do it control it (hence the term gun control and gun banning). You do not need semi automatic rifles or 15 hand guns in your house to protect you. If there is someone living in your house who is taking medication for depression, you should not have gun your house for you own protection. I think the President is trying to do the sensible thing by having more government control on guns, and perhaps avoid another Sandy Hook. ”

“ Crude and wild west gangster mentality by the NRA ”

“ "you might not realize that the primary purpose of the Second Amendement (sic.) is not personal protection, but resistance to opressive (sic.) government."

So, when the US Government goes tyrannical (מארגען נאך דעם קיגעל), you're going to defend yourself against nuclear weapons, stealth bombers, and jet fighters with your daddy's squirrel gun- right, Clem? The NRA, which doesn't give a damn about the Second Amendment (even though they preach this), are only concerned with making millions off of gun manufacturers. And, you are fool enough to support them because you can't tolerate an African American in the White House, but of course, are too much of a coward to admit to this! Slavery is over, women can vote, children with preconditions may not be denied health insurance, and military grade weapons with high capacity magazines are going to be banned, and there's not a thing you or your loser GOP/Baggers (KKK) can do about it, except stamp your feet in a juvenile tantrum! And besides, if people like you ever had to actually defend yourself, you'd most probably wet your pants, and run for the nearest exit! ”

“ Even with secret service the President and his family are in more danger of attack by a nut with a gun on a daily basis than average citizens.
I wasn't bothered by the NRA until this way overboard advertisement. ”

“ I find your comment highly insulting and disgusting
Even without the secret service the school Obama sends his kids to has armed guards ”

“ I said "the whole point in the second amendment is...", irrelevant of the fact if its realistic or not. It is a protection of our freedom. If you want to be a serf, go right ahead.
If they feel so strongly about changing the second amendment, let them go about it the proper way and not by government fiat. ”

“ Just to clarify for the people who keep repeating that "you don't need a semi-automatic to shoot a deer".

We don't need guns just for hunting. The idea of owning a gun is to protect the people from the government. Of course you'll say without thinking much "but the government today is not trying to attack us". Silly! Guns are the precise reason for that!
The circular logic must end.

There is a certain degree of freedom that we can only have if we have -not use, but have - guns. Think of Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, etc all these terrible places. Imagine if the citizenry were armed. I don't think the Holocaust could have happened if citizens were allowed weapons. At the worst it would have been a battle but millions would have been spared. ”

“ Wow, what a masterful use of sarcasm. I only wish you actually thought through your position, and cheap shots at Rush and Sarah Palin won't help. No government can control territory, let alone govern it, using only fighter jets, artillery and other heavy/advanced weaponry, just look at Syria. They need support or at least non-resistance on the ground. If population is disarmed, they get non-resistance, if it is armed - they are out of luck. So, the Second Amendment is as relevant as ever, and so is the entire Constitution of the United States. If you don't like the Constitution, which the foundation of this country, feel free to leave any time. ”

“ I find your comment highly insulting and disgusting
Even without the secret service the school Obama sends his kids to has armed guards ”

“ Just to clarify for the people who keep repeating that "you don't need a semi-automatic to shoot a deer".

We don't need guns just for hunting. The idea of owning a gun is to protect the people from the government. Of course you'll say without thinking much "but the government today is not trying to attack us". Silly! Guns are the precise reason for that!
The circular logic must end.

There is a certain degree of freedom that we can only have if we have -not use, but have - guns. Think of Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, etc all these terrible places. Imagine if the citizenry were armed. I don't think the Holocaust could have happened if citizens were allowed weapons. At the worst it would have been a battle but millions would have been spared. ”

“ Kzler .....when were you released ? ”

“ Kzler .....when were you released ? ”

“ You've got to be kidding me. As comment 11 points out, you can't protect yourself from or overthrow a tyrannical government with an AR-15. The government has drones and weapons that can blow out whole cities in seconds. This idea that you are going to "take on" the oppressive government with your farkakte hand gun is a joke that should be be laughed at. The point of guns in the US is to make paranoid insecure little people feel all-powerful buy enriching corporate gun manufactures with their expensive purchases. ”

“ Your very first comment on this article, and already playing the race card. It's frustrating to have no real argument, isn't it? Also, no reason to personally attack people, calling them "losers", "Baggers", "KKK" and such. Why are liberals always so angry? Methinks because in most cases they have no coherent logical argument, and therefore must rely on emotions, of which hate is the easiest available. Very sad... ”

“ "As a Brit watching the gun control debate from across the pond", you might not realize that the primary purpose of the Second Amendement is not personal protection, but resistance to opressive government. Armed citizenry is our last and most reliable line of defense. It may sound strange to a european ear, but this country is the "land of the free", and most people here are determined to preserve their freedoms, the results of last elections notwithstanding. Britain, by contract, is finished, nothing left to fight for. ”

“ if an armed burglar breaks into your home,you may not be be paranoid,insecure or little but you'll absolutely be defenseless. ”

“ And what exactly are you going to do when this armed burglar breaks into your home? Take out your gun and play GI Jane, drastically increasing the likelihood that Mr. burgler shoots you? Cause life is like the movies... your going to swoop in from behind half asleep and tell him to put his hands up where you can see them -- in total darkness! Ah, the fantasy life of right-wingers. I'll tell you what I'll do. Doesn't sound very macho, but I'll call the cops and won't confront Mr. burglar at all. I'll let him take what he wants and let the authorities deal with it -- and I won't get shot. Novel I know, but prudent and wise when you have loved ones to care for. ”

“ If it is is not applicable in modern times, its irrelevant, and thus only an excuse to justify what you can't otherwise. Serf? I fail to see how you are any less likely to become a "serf" with your silly little handgun that is less than useless against government firepower. The government is not "changing" the Second AMENDMENT (hmmm), for the Second Amendment is at best ambiguous. The government is instituting regulations which are perfectly in keeping with its authority according to the Supreme Court. If the government has no right to ban assault weapons -- weapons the musket-bearing founders could never have conceived of, it has not right to ban the private ownership of loaded F-22's or nuclear weapons according to your libertarian logic. ”

“ If it is is not applicable in modern times, its irrelevant, and thus only an excuse to justify what you can't otherwise. Serf? I fail to see how you are any less likely to become a "serf" with your silly little handgun that is less than useless against government firepower. The government is not "changing" the Second AMENDMENT (hmmm), for the Second Amendment is at best ambiguous. The government is instituting regulations which are perfectly in keeping with its authority according to the Supreme Court. If the government has no right to ban assault weapons -- weapons the musket-bearing founders could never have conceived of, it has not right to ban the private ownership of loaded F-22's or nuclear weapons according to your libertarian logic. ”

“ Your post goes a long way to explain why we are citizens of our country and you - subjects of your government. ”

“ Your very first comment on this article, and already playing the race card. It's frustrating to have no real argument, isn't it? Also, no reason to personally attack people, calling them "losers", "Baggers", "KKK" and such. Why are liberals always so angry? Methinks because in most cases they have no coherent logical argument, and therefore must rely on emotions, of which hate is the easiest available. Very sad... ”

“ #19 thinks everything and everyone that disagrees with with obama is automatically a huge racist. it can't possibly be the issues at hand. ”

“ And what exactly are you going to do when this armed burglar breaks into your home? Take out your gun and play GI Jane, drastically increasing the likelihood that Mr. burgler shoots you? Cause life is like the movies... your going to swoop in from behind half asleep and tell him to put his hands up where you can see them -- in total darkness! Ah, the fantasy life of right-wingers. I'll tell you what I'll do. Doesn't sound very macho, but I'll call the cops and won't confront Mr. burglar at all. I'll let him take what he wants and let the authorities deal with it -- and I won't get shot. Novel I know, but prudent and wise when you have loved ones to care for. ”

“ I will respond to your comment with substance, unlike your comment which just attacked me lacking any logical argument.
Firstly, it has come to a point in the Hiemishe Velt, we hate Obama so much that it has prevented us from thinking common sense.
Yes the US constitution allows and guarantees the right to bare arms. However if the right to bare arms allows incidents like Sandy Hook to happen (it is very clear that it is the high ownership of Guns means that they are readily available to anyone, even someone taking Prozac) the Siechel would dictate that something has to change. Legislation is the only option. If it was a Republican President was calling for changes, i don't think NRA would oppose it as much as it is Obama calling for the Change. Furthermore, the NRA don't care much about you or me, all they care about is that people should purchase more Guns, and therefore more money in their coffers. If the NRA had their way, they would want every 2 year old to own a Gun.
There is no country threatening you at the moment, certainly not us the Brits. Perhaps the Chinese will come to collect their money and i don't think 5 billion guns will save you from them. ”

“ And what exactly are you going to do when this armed burglar breaks into your home? Take out your gun and play GI Jane, drastically increasing the likelihood that Mr. burgler shoots you? Cause life is like the movies... your going to swoop in from behind half asleep and tell him to put his hands up where you can see them -- in total darkness! Ah, the fantasy life of right-wingers. I'll tell you what I'll do. Doesn't sound very macho, but I'll call the cops and won't confront Mr. burglar at all. I'll let him take what he wants and let the authorities deal with it -- and I won't get shot. Novel I know, but prudent and wise when you have loved ones to care for. ”

“ I will respond to your comment with substance, unlike your comment which just attacked me lacking any logical argument.
Firstly, it has come to a point in the Hiemishe Velt, we hate Obama so much that it has prevented us from thinking common sense.
Yes the US constitution allows and guarantees the right to bare arms. However if the right to bare arms allows incidents like Sandy Hook to happen (it is very clear that it is the high ownership of Guns means that they are readily available to anyone, even someone taking Prozac) the Siechel would dictate that something has to change. Legislation is the only option. If it was a Republican President was calling for changes, i don't think NRA would oppose it as much as it is Obama calling for the Change. Furthermore, the NRA don't care much about you or me, all they care about is that people should purchase more Guns, and therefore more money in their coffers. If the NRA had their way, they would want every 2 year old to own a Gun.
There is no country threatening you at the moment, certainly not us the Brits. Perhaps the Chinese will come to collect their money and i don't think 5 billion guns will save you from them. ”

“ You are so silly (would call you silly liberal but that would be redundant). No, I would not attempt to sneak in from behind anybody or anything, nor attempt to make a rasha to put his hands up. I would shoot him without any warning and THEN call the cops and "let the authorities deal with it." Any man worth the name would do likewise.

But I can see you telling the burglar: I don't mean to confront you, please just wait until I make the phone call. ”