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Published on: February 4, 2013 11:00 AM
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New York Police Department officers escort a hearse carrying the casket of former New York Mayor Ed Koch into Temple Emanu-El for his funeral services in New York, February 4, 2013. Koch, the voluble three-term mayor who helped bring New York back from the brink of fiscal ruin in the 1970s and came to embody the city with his wry, outspoken style, died on February 1, 2013 at the age of 88. REUTERS/Lucas JacksonNew York Police Department officers escort a hearse carrying the casket of former New York Mayor Ed Koch into Temple Emanu-El for his funeral services in New York, February 4, 2013. Koch, the voluble three-term mayor who helped bring New York back from the brink of fiscal ruin in the 1970s and came to embody the city with his wry, outspoken style, died on February 1, 2013 at the age of 88. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson

New York - About 350 people were already standing in lines over an hour before Ed Koch’s Manhattan funeral.

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Some streets were closed Monday morning around Temple Emanu-El, at 65th Street and Fifth Avenue.

The crowd braved temperatures in the low 20s and a fierce wind while waiting in two lines outside the temple. But the skies were bright blue.

Helicopters hovered overhead. The area also was filled with TV satellite trucks.

Six motorcycle officers were at the ready near 66th Street and Madison.


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 Feb 04, 2013 at 11:15 AM DRE53 Says:

350 people?
That's a number for a levaye of an average frum person.
Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 11:36 AM Jeff R Says:

Some people leave deep footprints behind them. They guide so many people and are a source to thousands of people. When you make such a huge impact on everyone’s life then people will remember you and respect you for the contribution you have made to their lives. Strong people live even after their time. Their courage and fortitude in life is admired by everyone.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 11:40 AM ModernLakewoodGuy Says:

BDE - May he rest in eternal peace with his creator.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 11:45 AM Sherree Says:

B"DE, you will be missed!

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 12:02 PM TexasJew Says:

BD"H- great politician. Will be missed.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 12:09 PM Boochie Says:

very moving

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 12:16 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
DRE53 Says:

350 people?
That's a number for a levaye of an average frum person.
Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich

"Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich"

He was an honest man. Please stop with your negative comments. The man isn't even buried yet. A frum lifestyle is not for every Jew.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 12:20 PM yeah Says:

Reply to #1  
DRE53 Says:

350 people?
That's a number for a levaye of an average frum person.
Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich

If he had 10 kids and each had 10 kids and he would have 100 einiklich. So probably not 350.
And most people have less than 10 kids.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 12:28 PM Elliot Pasik Says:

About a year ago, when Mayor Koch publicly criticized Brooklyn DA Joe Hynes for not releasing the names of those orthodox Jews arrested for child abuse, I emailed the Mayor, at his law office, asking if he could be of assistance in securing legislation requiring that all religious school employees be fingerprinted and background checked. The Mayor, who I never personally knew before, did try to help. May his memory be for a blessing, and may his family be comforted among the mourners of Zion and Jerusalem.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 12:31 PM Anonymous Says:

We should take pride that even when they are not frum, yidden have contributed greatly to America, our state and city...Koch and Bloomberg will be remembered as among the greatest mayor in city history.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 12:37 PM Butterfly Says:

Bloomberg will be remembered for tickets, taxes, and bicycle lanes!!

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 12:47 PM downtoearth Says:

Sorry but i can't get past the fact that he requested to be buried in a church graveyard. even if it was the only spot left in Manhattan

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 12:54 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
DRE53 Says:

350 people?
That's a number for a levaye of an average frum person.
Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich

What an INSENSITIVE comment! What about the thousands and thousands of Yidden that lead a frum lifestlye and for whatever reason NEVER have 1 child. Your comment shows exactly what is WRONG with SOME Yidden.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 01:02 PM common-sense Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

"Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich"

He was an honest man. Please stop with your negative comments. The man isn't even buried yet. A frum lifestyle is not for every Jew.

But it should be. Otherwise, what is the point in being a Jew?

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 01:08 PM Yoidea dovor Says:

Reply to #12  
downtoearth Says:

Sorry but i can't get past the fact that he requested to be buried in a church graveyard. even if it was the only spot left in Manhattan

Mayor Koch bought the ground of his burial plot from the church . In fact, he stipulated that the area be marked by a fence so that it will be considered a Jewish cemetery le'halacha.
With that act itself he was " yesh kona es olomo besha achas" .
What a great kiddush

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 01:20 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
DRE53 Says:

350 people?
That's a number for a levaye of an average frum person.
Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich

So your assessment of humanity is that it is better to be Frum so that you can have more people at your funeral? What train did you get off from?

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 01:35 PM ShaloiOsaniGay Says:

בְּגַפּוֹ יָבֹא בְּגַפּוֹ יֵצֵא

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 01:44 PM clear-thinker Says:

Reply to #1  
DRE53 Says:

350 people?
That's a number for a levaye of an average frum person.
Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich

Once again you try to show what a tsadik you are. You should have read NY Times article today and you could have commented again that he was not as frum as you are. After reading the article I can only think that he had more love for his fellow Jew than you.
Perhaps you should slow down and read. 350 people were standing in lines an hour before the funeral. We will see how many people will attend the funeral.
If you truly lived a truly frum lifestyle (whose definition might be a problem) I wonder if you would be so sure of everything.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 01:47 PM shalomke Says:

RIP Mr. Mayor

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 01:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #17  
ShaloiOsaniGay Says:

בְּגַפּוֹ יָבֹא בְּגַפּוֹ יֵצֵא

You should have instead thanked the Ebeshter for not creating you with brains for making such a pathetic commet on the day of the niftar's levayah.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 01:54 PM Anonymous Says:

In fact many Jewish cemeteries are divided ones. One side non Jews the other side Jews. I have seen this in America, France and other countries. So if he did that it is a Jewish cemetery

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 02:12 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
DRE53 Says:

350 people?
That's a number for a levaye of an average frum person.
Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich

If you would have read the article correctly, it says there were 350 LINED UP AN HOUR BEFORE the funeral just waiting to get in!!! There were MANY more people than that in attendance including many friends, family members, and dignitaries...... EVEN THOUGH HE WASN'T FRUM!!!

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 02:33 PM Dave Says:

Reply to #9  
Elliot Pasik Says:

About a year ago, when Mayor Koch publicly criticized Brooklyn DA Joe Hynes for not releasing the names of those orthodox Jews arrested for child abuse, I emailed the Mayor, at his law office, asking if he could be of assistance in securing legislation requiring that all religious school employees be fingerprinted and background checked. The Mayor, who I never personally knew before, did try to help. May his memory be for a blessing, and may his family be comforted among the mourners of Zion and Jerusalem.

Wow ! Amazing!!
Come on that makes him a tzadik?!

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 02:34 PM Yiddl Says:

Reply to #14  
common-sense Says:

But it should be. Otherwise, what is the point in being a Jew?

Love ur comment so true what IS the point of being JEWISH if ur not FRUM, your no different then a non jew.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 02:37 PM Aryeh Says:

Pity he never married. Nice man.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 02:51 PM Tzi_Bar_David Says:

How something called "The Trinity Church Cemetery and Mausoleum" which is in the backyard of the Church of the Intercession, could become, somehow, a Jewish burial ground is amazing to me... I guess with Hashem all things are possible.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 03:17 PM rebbe123 Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

"Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich"

He was an honest man. Please stop with your negative comments. The man isn't even buried yet. A frum lifestyle is not for every Jew.

frum lifestyle that's a Jew that and ONLY that and someone that puts in his will to be put to rest in w cemetery of a church LOST all connections with am yisroel

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 03:51 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
Yiddl Says:

Love ur comment so true what IS the point of being JEWISH if ur not FRUM, your no different then a non jew.

"Love ur comment so true what IS the point of being JEWISH if ur not FRUM, your no different then a non jew."

At least I can spell and use proper grammar! You need to go back to school and get an education!

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 03:52 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
DRE53 Says:

350 people?
That's a number for a levaye of an average frum person.
Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich

How many of them would have been on section 8?

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 03:52 PM dont be stupid Says:

Reply to #20  
Anonymous Says:

You should have instead thanked the Ebeshter for not creating you with brains for making such a pathetic commet on the day of the niftar's levayah.

give me a break

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 03:55 PM disagree Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

We should take pride that even when they are not frum, yidden have contributed greatly to America, our state and city...Koch and Bloomberg will be remembered as among the greatest mayor in city history.

i totaly disagree with you on that

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 03:56 PM naive Says:

Reply to #25  
Aryeh Says:

Pity he never married. Nice man.

he never wanted to get married

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 04:13 PM ShmuelG Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

"Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich"

He was an honest man. Please stop with your negative comments. The man isn't even buried yet. A frum lifestyle is not for every Jew.

God wants frum "lifestyle" from all of us. So it must be by definition achievable by all of us.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 04:15 PM ShmuelG Says:

Reply to #8  
yeah Says:

If he had 10 kids and each had 10 kids and he would have 100 einiklich. So probably not 350.
And most people have less than 10 kids.

If you want to engage in this game: By the age that he died, most of his grandchildren would have some children of their own. So DRE53 #1 is pretty accurate.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 05:09 PM Smokey Says:

Reply to #26  
Tzi_Bar_David Says:

How something called "The Trinity Church Cemetery and Mausoleum" which is in the backyard of the Church of the Intercession, could become, somehow, a Jewish burial ground is amazing to me... I guess with Hashem all things are possible.

Mayor Koch is not buried in a church cemetery. He is buried in a non-denominational cemetery owned by Trinity Church, which is called the "Trinity Church Cemetery and Mausoleum". That cemetery may be in the "backyard" of the Church of the Intercession, but it has no relation to the Church of the Intercession. Would you describe the Kotel as being in the backyard of the Mosque of Omar? Leave Mayor Koch alone and stop trying to excommunicate his neshama from his Jewish roots.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 05:10 PM Anon Says:

Reply to #24  
Yiddl Says:

Love ur comment so true what IS the point of being JEWISH if ur not FRUM, your no different then a non jew.

Aren't the children of those non frum still Jews and don't some of them become observant? Do non-Jews contribute to Jewish (including frum) charities the way less-observant Jews do? Do these secular Jews serve in the IDF and protect their charedi brothers and sisters, even ones who, like you, spit in their faces?

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 05:57 PM Shemp Says:

Reply to #36  
Anon Says:

Aren't the children of those non frum still Jews and don't some of them become observant? Do non-Jews contribute to Jewish (including frum) charities the way less-observant Jews do? Do these secular Jews serve in the IDF and protect their charedi brothers and sisters, even ones who, like you, spit in their faces?

"Aren't the children of those non frum still Jews and don't some of them become observant?"
What children? He had no children because he didn't want to! He didn't have a wife! So what chance is there that this non-frum Jew would have observant children. ZERO! That's the point!

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 06:14 PM Tzi_Bar_David Says:

Reply to #35  
Smokey Says:

Mayor Koch is not buried in a church cemetery. He is buried in a non-denominational cemetery owned by Trinity Church, which is called the "Trinity Church Cemetery and Mausoleum". That cemetery may be in the "backyard" of the Church of the Intercession, but it has no relation to the Church of the Intercession. Would you describe the Kotel as being in the backyard of the Mosque of Omar? Leave Mayor Koch alone and stop trying to excommunicate his neshama from his Jewish roots.

It is not a "non-demoninational cemetery," it is a Christian cemetery in the Protestant Episcopal tradition; they will accept burials from people of all denominations (provided you have the cash, I presume...but they are far from alone in that requirement). I invite you to check out their lovely website with the all the pictures of assorted avoda zorah. Indeed when the time comes I am sure you will be pleased to know that the final ceremonies can take place in their on site "Chapel of the Resurrection."

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 07:44 PM Smokey Says:

Oy gevalt! I heard of a Jew who calls himself frum and he lives on Church Street in Brooklyn! What frum Jew would live on a street named after a church? And I heard of a woman who calls herself frum and she gave birth to twins in Booth Memorial Hospital in Flushing, a hospital, get this, which was named after William Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army. Can you imagine that, with all the Jewish hospitals located in Queens, she chose to give birth in a goyishe hospital. I don't know what their Jewish names are, but their English names are Peter and Paul. Someone complained, so the hospital changed its name to New York Hospital at Queens. However, as far as I know, the boys are used to telling people that they were born in a succah.

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 Feb 04, 2013 at 09:50 PM Smokey Says:

Reply to #38  
Tzi_Bar_David Says:

It is not a "non-demoninational cemetery," it is a Christian cemetery in the Protestant Episcopal tradition; they will accept burials from people of all denominations (provided you have the cash, I presume...but they are far from alone in that requirement). I invite you to check out their lovely website with the all the pictures of assorted avoda zorah. Indeed when the time comes I am sure you will be pleased to know that the final ceremonies can take place in their on site "Chapel of the Resurrection."

Remember that Avraham Avinu paid for a burial site for his dead. It was 400 shekels of silver, and it was in the middle of an area that belonged to Ephron, the son of Zohar. I took up your suggestion and looked up "Chapel of the Resurrection". The closest church of that name, located on W. 151st Street, appears to be Catholic, not Episcopalian, and does not appear to be under the aegis of any Protestant Episcopalian church. BTW, you changed my spelling of "non-denominational" to "non-demoninational". Did you do that on purpose?.

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 Feb 05, 2013 at 10:16 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
DRE53 Says:

350 people?
That's a number for a levaye of an average frum person.
Had he lead a frum lifestyle, he would've had 350 einiklich

only an am oretz would speak so badly about a dead Jew. Even the lowest goyim have more respect than you do.

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 Feb 05, 2013 at 10:18 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
Butterfly Says:

Bloomberg will be remembered for tickets, taxes, and bicycle lanes!!

so? what does that have to do with this article?

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 Feb 05, 2013 at 10:19 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
downtoearth Says:

Sorry but i can't get past the fact that he requested to be buried in a church graveyard. even if it was the only spot left in Manhattan

no one cares what you think. if you did the slightest bit of checking, you would know it was a non-sectarian graveyard, and he received more than one heter from frum rabbeim to be buried there. you're a moron and am oretz, and I have no idea how you will get mechila from Koch.

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 Feb 05, 2013 at 10:21 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
Anonymous Says:

You should have instead thanked the Ebeshter for not creating you with brains for making such a pathetic commet on the day of the niftar's levayah.

good comment!

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 Feb 05, 2013 at 10:22 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
Yiddl Says:

Love ur comment so true what IS the point of being JEWISH if ur not FRUM, your no different then a non jew.

you are wrong on so many levels I can't begin to explain, but I will say that you are not the high-level Jew you apparently think you are, you're an idiot.

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 Feb 05, 2013 at 10:23 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #26  
Tzi_Bar_David Says:

How something called "The Trinity Church Cemetery and Mausoleum" which is in the backyard of the Church of the Intercession, could become, somehow, a Jewish burial ground is amazing to me... I guess with Hashem all things are possible.

then you should ask a rov about it, like Koch did. it's not so amazing at all.

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 Feb 05, 2013 at 10:24 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #27  
rebbe123 Says:

frum lifestyle that's a Jew that and ONLY that and someone that puts in his will to be put to rest in w cemetery of a church LOST all connections with am yisroel

as opposed to the webermans, dweks, weinsteins, madoffs, rubashkins? THOSE are the good Jews?

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