New York - Audio Reveals Brooklyn College Misled Public On Eviction Of Jewish Students From BDS Event (AUDIO) |
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New York - An audio recording obtained exclusively by The Algemeiner appears to indicate that Brooklyn College representatives misled the public in their account of events that took place at Thursday night’s BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) event aimed at Israel and sponsored by the University’s Political Science Department, where four Jewish students were evicted by security personnel.
On Friday, Brooklyn College explained the incident by accusing the students of disrupting the event in no uncertain terms, with spokesperson Jeremy Thompson telling The Algemeiner, “From the first speaker they began to speak out, they were becoming vocal and disruptive to the members around them and one of the student organizers of the event went to them and said ‘you really need to be quiet you’re disrupting other people around you.’ They then did not comply and a couple of police officers asked them to come out into the lobby.” Thompson also added that school officials in attendance, including Brooklyn College Vice President Milga Morales, confirmed this account.
The four students — Melanie Goldberg, Ari Ziegler, Yvonne Juris, and Michael Ziegler—contended however, that they were thrown out for possessing BDS fact sheets. Goldberg told The Algemeiner the day after the event that “One of the SJP (Students for Justice in Palestine, which organized the event) members came over and got really close to my face and told me to give him the sheets, or he would call security. I told him I would not. We were simply taking notes so we could ask informed questions like we were encouraged to do by the school and Political Science Department.”
When Goldberg then asked Brooklyn College Vice President Milga Morales to intervene, as she was nearby during the incident, she declined to do so.
“I told her this was a clear violation of academic freedom, she just looked at me and said ‘this is their event, they can do what they want,’ which is not true, the political science department co-sponsored it,” Goldberg recounted.
The student who confronted Goldberg was later identified as SJP member Carlos Guzman.
The audio file makes plain that the school was falsely accusing the students, and/or greatly exaggerating the claims made by SJP members that the students were being disruptive throughout their time at the lecture. The file captures the first speaker, Judith Butler, and terminates at the ejection of the four students. At the 28:14 mark Melanie Goldberg can clearly be heard saying, “I’m not allowed to hold a pamphlet?” This appears to contradict the claim made by Brooklyn College that the students were simply asked to be quiet and did not comply, and one made by an SJP organizer that they were asked to quiet down and stop passing fliers between themselves before they were ejected. At the end of the audio file you can hear Goldberg saying, “This is an oppression of freedom of speech, this is an oppression…” no time before that, despite the fact that according to The Algemeiner’s source the recording device was positioned only two rows in front of the Jewish students and was able to clearly pick up the voice of Judith Butler several rows ahead, does it appear that any disturbance was being caused. In fact, the first time a voice is clearly audible besides that of Butler’s is when Melanie Goldberg asks about the pamphlet, 28 minutes into the event.
Yesterday CUNY Chancellor Matthew Goldstein issued a statement in which he said an investigation into the incident would commence. “There were reports that some said they were asked without cause to leave the event. If this were true, it was wrong and we need to understand exactly what the circumstances were. At the request of President Karen L. Gould, I have asked General Counsel and Senior Vice Chancellor for Legal Affairs Frederick P. Schaffer to quickly investigate these allegations. This investigation will be coordinated by CUNY’s Office of Legal Affairs, working with an independent consultant, and charged with reporting directly back to me,” Goldstein said.
From statements made today by Brooklyn College, it appears the school has backtracked somewhat from its earlier statements—statements that were given with the backing of anonymous school officials and the vice president of the school.
The school told The Algemeiner in a statement Tuesday that “Given the serious concerns raised by the students, President Gould has asked the university to conduct a thorough independent review of the college’s actions in order to ascertain all the facts. We stand by our previous statements that the college should be a place where all may express their views. If we learn that these students were denied that opportunity without cause, as they allege, the decision to have them removed will have been inappropriate and the college will issue a formal apology.”
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Feb 12, 2013 at 07:16 PM Bezalel Says:Report as Inappropriate
The students should sue the university for defamation.
And Milga Morales said, ‘this is their event, they can do what they want.’ Is that limited to ordering the eviction of students from the event? Or would that also include raping and murdering any Jews they can find? After all, that is what the Palestinians excel at in this world.
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Feb 12, 2013 at 07:19 PM shlomogabai Says:Report as Inappropriate
formal apology! Vicious anti semite! The problem is not this saga, this points to what many have been claiming! That brooklyn college reeks from anti semitism! Keep your apology! We just saw all your true colors! BIGOT!
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Feb 12, 2013 at 07:20 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
These four students clearly attended the program with the intention of disrupting the event; what is in dispute is how disruptive they were at any point in time. They could have stayed outside the auditorium to hand out their pamphlets. Clearly, they weren't satisfied with making a passive statement and wanted to be disruptive at some level and were properly ejected. We had the same situation two years ago when a bunch of Palestinian students interrupted Ambassador Michael Oren at speeches here in NYC and on the West Coast.
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Feb 12, 2013 at 08:01 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Obviously, the claim made by Brooklyn College.that the hateful and shameful event was protected under the guise of academic freedom and free speech only applied to the muslim students and anti-Israel faculty. Shame on you Brooklyn College!
Do not bother to ask me for alumna donations...Do not have the Magner Career Center contact me to arrange for internships for your students...go ask Hamas!
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Feb 12, 2013 at 08:16 PM GOULD REFUSED SAFETY CONCERNS Says:Report as Inappropriate
As a parent of a student I was aware of subtle threats being made to jewish students in the days leading up to the ---.
I phoned Gould and asked her to guarantee safety for my child, the office of Gould refused to discuss my concerns and hung up on me. There is little chance that Gould will ever stand up for fairness and there is ZERO chance that the truth will ever be admitted to by the Guzman/Morales team. Despite academic freedom, we should demand that Morales be immediately fired from her position and escorted off campus. As a CUNY employee and therefor a Government employee she is responsible for her documented lies. She is a liar and a dangerous anti JEW. There are semantic differences between the term Jew and Semite but she is anti JEW.
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Feb 12, 2013 at 08:24 PM JackC Says:Report as Inappropriate
An "apology" months after the event is less than meaningless.
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Feb 12, 2013 at 08:37 PM alcod Says:Report as Inappropriate
A formal apology. Worth about as much as the German government apologizing for the Holocaust.
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Feb 12, 2013 at 09:00 PM Liepa Says:Report as Inappropriate
The proper authorities need to clean house over at Brooklyn College and start with that Miss, whatever her name is.
Brooklyn college isn't the only school in town anymore, there's Touro and others that far outpace BC, these days.
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Feb 12, 2013 at 09:00 PM Where is Hikind? Says:Report as Inappropriate
This really escalated into an anti-Jewish issue at Brooklyn College. Despite the discrimination and illegal action by CUNY and specifically Milga MORALES ( a CUNY and therefor Government employee) the College has pledged only an investigation and a possible apology.
The Jewish or Pro-Israel community should demand more, including termination of Morales for evicting students and lying about it.
Termination of any contract with security guards that fail to uphold the law. This should not be pre WW2 Germany
Termination of Gould for lying.
Termination of Thompson for lying.
Legal action against Guzman for harrasment.
I personally have never dealt with Gould nor Morales but their actions appear indefensible.
I clearly expect a whitewash, the untruths that emerge will not surprise anybody..
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Feb 12, 2013 at 09:42 PM judith Says:Report as Inappropriate
Formal apology not enough. They should now sue for millions for violation of civil rights.
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Feb 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM ExpatriateOwl Says:Report as Inappropriate
Morales, Gould, and let us not forget Tramontano: Send them all packing!!!
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Feb 13, 2013 at 04:51 AM Norden Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ The students should sue the university for defamation.
And Milga Morales said, ‘this is their event, they can do what they want.’ Is that limited to ordering the eviction of students from the event? Or would that also include raping and murdering any Jews they can find? After all, that is what the Palestinians excel at in this world. ”
"would that also include raping and murdering any Jews they can find?"
Stop being so absurdly alarmist - unless you can give us authoritative numbers of Jews raped and murdered at this event.
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Feb 13, 2013 at 04:54 AM USDAO Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ An "apology" months after the event is less than meaningless. ”
What would you have preferred? An "apology" BEFORE the event?
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Feb 13, 2013 at 06:42 AM boroparkgranny Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ These four students clearly attended the program with the intention of disrupting the event; what is in dispute is how disruptive they were at any point in time. They could have stayed outside the auditorium to hand out their pamphlets. Clearly, they weren't satisfied with making a passive statement and wanted to be disruptive at some level and were properly ejected. We had the same situation two years ago when a bunch of Palestinian students interrupted Ambassador Michael Oren at speeches here in NYC and on the West Coast. ”
The Jewish students were not disruptive at all. That was not their purpose. They were there to ask questions. There were other students outside with signs quietly protesting this anti-Semitic event.
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Feb 13, 2013 at 07:33 AM Eli Says:Report as Inappropriate
Get a grip, people! The analogies to Nazi Germany are sick, as is the notion that Brooklyn College is anti-Semitic simply because a relatively small group got a few professors to OK sponsorship of an event. Obviously those of you who make these statements have never set foot on the BC campus. There is a wide array of viewpoints, groups, events, forums, etc., and they all co-exist in relative harmony -- but as usual we get all hysterical and blow everything way out of proportion. No wonder people just tune us out whenever we start crying "gevalt, anti-Semitism!" at the drop of a hat.
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Feb 13, 2013 at 07:45 AM Butterfly Says:Report as Inappropriate
Who do all these Universities get their $$$$$$$ from? The Arab World!! Where does Mayor Bl. park his $$$$$? In the Arab Countries!! Check it out!!
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Feb 13, 2013 at 08:11 AM Aryeh Says:Report as Inappropriate
Gould has been pulling this garbage for YEARS!
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Feb 13, 2013 at 08:18 AM No, Eli! Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Get a grip, people! The analogies to Nazi Germany are sick, as is the notion that Brooklyn College is anti-Semitic simply because a relatively small group got a few professors to OK sponsorship of an event. Obviously those of you who make these statements have never set foot on the BC campus. There is a wide array of viewpoints, groups, events, forums, etc., and they all co-exist in relative harmony -- but as usual we get all hysterical and blow everything way out of proportion. No wonder people just tune us out whenever we start crying "gevalt, anti-Semitism!" at the drop of a hat. ”
I spent 4 years at Brooklyn College, my child attends B.C. now.
co-existing and all that is OK.
When a Jew is evicted from a session on trumped up charges, removed by security and an administration member is part of the lie, well that is different. Perhaps you shouyld reread the article and then rethink your comment.
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Feb 13, 2013 at 11:28 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ These four students clearly attended the program with the intention of disrupting the event; what is in dispute is how disruptive they were at any point in time. They could have stayed outside the auditorium to hand out their pamphlets. Clearly, they weren't satisfied with making a passive statement and wanted to be disruptive at some level and were properly ejected. We had the same situation two years ago when a bunch of Palestinian students interrupted Ambassador Michael Oren at speeches here in NYC and on the West Coast. ”
#3 you clearly missed the point of this article. get your facts straight. they "clearly" were not there with intention to distrupt.
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Feb 13, 2013 at 11:30 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ These four students clearly attended the program with the intention of disrupting the event; what is in dispute is how disruptive they were at any point in time. They could have stayed outside the auditorium to hand out their pamphlets. Clearly, they weren't satisfied with making a passive statement and wanted to be disruptive at some level and were properly ejected. We had the same situation two years ago when a bunch of Palestinian students interrupted Ambassador Michael Oren at speeches here in NYC and on the West Coast. ”
Hillary Clinton got away with an apology after her lies, but this should not be tolerated with an apology. Get them fired for the elaborate fabrication of the events that led to the students being kicked out.
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Feb 13, 2013 at 01:38 PM I_Am_Me Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ These four students clearly attended the program with the intention of disrupting the event; what is in dispute is how disruptive they were at any point in time. They could have stayed outside the auditorium to hand out their pamphlets. Clearly, they weren't satisfied with making a passive statement and wanted to be disruptive at some level and were properly ejected. We had the same situation two years ago when a bunch of Palestinian students interrupted Ambassador Michael Oren at speeches here in NYC and on the West Coast. ”
From the article you learn they weren't negatively written pamphlets, they were pamphlets with questions they wanted to ask, which they have a right to & if they were standing outside they couldn't be asked, now could they