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Brooklyn, NY - Local Jewish community leaders are seething over a factually-inaccurate press release blaming local Jews for polluting a local lake.

The Brooklyn Paper (http://bit.ly/15mC0Hc) is reporting that community leaders are demanding a retraction.

Earlier this month, officials representing the Prospect Park Alliance issued a press release aimed at informing local Jews that their practice of tossing their chametz into the park’s lake during Passover was negatively affecting the health of the waterfowl.

The press release said, “For many years people have brought chametz to Prospect Park to throw into the lake to feed the water fowl. While this is done with good intentions, feeding the water fowl can be very harmful to them.”

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However, Jewish community leaders across the community say they have never heard of such a thing, citing instead, the traditional communal burning of leftover chametz outside Jewish homes and synagogues on the morning of the first Passover seder, March 25.

“For Passover nobody drops the chametz into the lake. That is totally untrue,” said Gary Schlesinger, executive director of United Jewish Community Advocacy Relations and Enrichment.

Schelsinger added that he finds the Alliance’s blanket statement about the Jewish community “offensive.”

“The press release doesn’t say it’s just a couple of people,” chided Schlesinger—-who called the release “appalling” in his demand for a retraction.

Schlesinger said he and other local Jewish leaders have a hunch the Alliance has mistaken Passover with the Jewish ritual of ‘tashlich,’ wherein it is customary for Jews to toss crusts of bread into the water as a symbolic cleansing.

Schlesinger pointed out that tashlich is generally performed six months down the road in the early fall on the first day of Rosh Hashanah before Yom Kippur.

Chanina Sperlin, executive vice chairman of the Crown Heights Jewish Community Council, said, “They don’t have their facts straight. They should learn the customs of the Jewish community. Nobody is throwing any bread or food or any such items into the lake before Passover.”

A spokesman for the Prospect Park Alliance, Paul Nelson, said the Alliance is certain they have their facts correct and that the throwing of bread into the lake remains a real concern.

“We know nothing about the religious ceremony right before Yom Kippur. That’s not the issue,” said Nelson. “We have observed for years people bringing bread to the park right before Passover. It’s not one neighborhood or one branch of Judaism. It’s not an organized process or one group. That’s why we’re trying to get the word out to as many different places as possible.”

Nelson said the Alliance has brought in eight extra dumpsters and is hoping that Jews will choose to dispose of their chametz that way instead of using the lake.

However, Elisheva Carlebach, who is a professor of Jewish history at Columbia University, warned that anyone choosing to dispose of their chametz in the dumpsters, or by burying them at sea, would be violating the religious law that requires the fermented grains be either consumed, burned, or given away.

Carlebach said that while its entirely possible that someone may have chosen to discard unwanted items in the lake, it has nothing to do with Jewish tradition, or, the Jewish community.

“That’s not the proper way to dispose of chametz,” she said.


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 Mar 19, 2013 at 04:25 PM posaikacharon Says:

Seething? While it seems like the info was obtained from the sheino yodaia lishol it's far better than blood in matzos press release in the past centuries.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 03:49 PM yaakov doe Says:

They are certainly confused. Why would anyone bring their chometz to Prospect Park lake when they can burn it at home. The Brooklyn Paper isn't known for it's accuracy since it is now owned by Murdoch's New Group.

A similiar press release should be issed to those who have sacrificed animals and strewn animal body parts in the park over the years.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 03:50 PM Anonymous Says:

Its apparently not entirely clear. There are some chassisdus where there is minhag from the alte heim to throw chametz after the bedikah into a body of water in addition to burning ....I doubt it occurs in any significant amounts to harm waterfowl but its definitely part of the minhagim of some Brooklyn residents...

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 04:03 PM ivan Says:

the whole apisode stinks of high heaven, alliance of fools.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 04:07 PM Anonymous Says:

Not sure I understand. We ALWAYS throw our bread into the lakes in Rockland and have been for years. There are hundreds of us who have been doing this for years.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 04:18 PM Insider Says:

Yeah, blame it on the Jews. The black plague ommedieval times was blamed on the Jews. The Jews had to nerve to be clean, wah their hands before eating, etc. The Gentiles, of course, didn't. Guess who ot sick.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 04:31 PM c Says:

This is what gets people upset? What's the big deal. So they mixed up Pesach with Tashlich or did they? Maybe a lot of people go to feed the birds, it makes sense, maybe not. Lets see if by tashlich, people actually listen and refrain from throwing in the bread crumbs or if they will disregard this announcement because the minhag is more important to them.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 04:39 PM shredready Says:

may not be a tradition but maybe people do throw away their chumatz thinking at least the bird or fish will eat it.

nothing to get ll uptight about

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 04:42 PM KugelFresser Says:

Elisheva Carlebach should stick to Jewish history, which I hope she knows better than halacha. Her quote that "anyone choosing to dispose of their chametz in the dumpsters, or by burying them at sea, would be violating the religious law that requires the fermented grains be either consumed, burned, or given away" is entirely ridiculous.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 04:44 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
shredready Says:

may not be a tradition but maybe people do throw away their chumatz thinking at least the bird or fish will eat it.

nothing to get ll uptight about

It is amazing how you always have some inane silly comment to make. Never makes sense and never follows the genral rules of grammar.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 04:55 PM Anonymous Says:

I have friends who talk about giving some of their chometz to their kids to use to feed the birds. It isn't that hard to believe that some people give it to their kids to feed the birds or fish in the area. Obviously, it isn't to the extent of tashlich and it isn't a ritual as much as a way of just getting rid of chometz as people approach Pesach.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 05:01 PM curious Says:

I googled it and found numerous authorities suggest disposing of chometz in lakes. We must be honest. It is ossur because we must follow the law. abou

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 05:02 PM OyGevald Says:

All those who say its NOT done, are those who belong to religious Orthodox congregations. Those who do toss their breads into lakes must belong to Reform or Conservative congregations that don't practice authentic Judaism altogether.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 05:18 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
OyGevald Says:

All those who say its NOT done, are those who belong to religious Orthodox congregations. Those who do toss their breads into lakes must belong to Reform or Conservative congregations that don't practice authentic Judaism altogether.

Not true...as several other posters have noted, in some heimeshse neighborhoods there are some who do don't take "biur" chometz literally and do a sort of pesachdike tashlich....Rav Gavornlick and others have written about this but do not suggest that it is a valid substitute unless there is some absolute prohibition on burning (e.g. in rare instances where burning the chometz creates a situation of pikuach nefesh because of risk of fire). I wouldn't ridicule the hashkafah of any frum yidden who dispose of their chometz in Prospect Lake or any other body of water.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 05:37 PM My Take Says:

Perhaps there is some truth to that. People don't want to throw away leftover bread so they feed the ducks. I don't know if it is done on such a large scale as the article makes out.It is not minhag Yisroel to do so. Unless there is a ban on feeding ducks, I don't know what the uproar is all about. In Lakewood there are signs by the lake, not to feed the waterfowl. I simply put the leftover bread in my yard and the squirrels and birds take care of eating it up for me.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 06:26 PM ShmuelG Says:

Oh, let's just admit: the press release is not entirely accurate but it is based on facts. After we extract christian babies' blood to bake into our matzos, how do we disposed of the carcasses? Casting them into the lake is one of the convenient ways.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 06:33 PM bewhiskered Says:

Perhaps, this throwing of חמץ into a body of water may possibly have its מקור from ש"ע או"ח סימן תמ"ה ס"ק א, where the מחבר writes:

כיצד ביעור חמץ שורפו או פוררו וזורה לרוח או זורקו לים

The רמ"א however, wants it בדוקא burned.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 06:44 PM Anonymous Says:

Professor Carlebach should check out the gemara, which allows one to throw the chametz into the sea or crumble it into the wind, if fire is not available

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 08:28 PM Anonymous Says:

Being mafkir hametz is technically a valid way of disowning it.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 08:55 PM commonsense18 Says:

To cut down on noise pollution do not blow shofar in prospect park- either.

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 11:04 PM Yawvous Says:

Reply to #2  
yaakov doe Says:

They are certainly confused. Why would anyone bring their chometz to Prospect Park lake when they can burn it at home. The Brooklyn Paper isn't known for it's accuracy since it is now owned by Murdoch's New Group.

A similiar press release should be issed to those who have sacrificed animals and strewn animal body parts in the park over the years.

Why strew animal parts in the part? It's more profitable to grind them into hotdog or salami meat filler....

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 Mar 19, 2013 at 11:32 PM weird Says:

I have never, ever heard of disposing of chometz in a body of water. Must be a Brooklyn thing.

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 Mar 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM Lakewoodwife Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

I have friends who talk about giving some of their chometz to their kids to use to feed the birds. It isn't that hard to believe that some people give it to their kids to feed the birds or fish in the area. Obviously, it isn't to the extent of tashlich and it isn't a ritual as much as a way of just getting rid of chometz as people approach Pesach.

Gotta agree with you and with number 8 - the only thing they got wrong here was the fact that it's an actual minhag. I think it makes sense that many families will combine getting rid of some chometz with keeping the children occupied during this hectic time by sending them to "feed the ducks" They worded it politely and nicely and it's up to us to say oops, sorry, we'll stop! Yes, the same rules were implemented in lkwd lake recently...

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 Mar 20, 2013 at 08:04 AM Anonymous Says:

There are some people who don't throw out bread into the garbage like the ends & leftovers so the to with the kids to throw it into a lake or give it to the birds. I personally know someone who went to the prospect park to throw in bread last Friday

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 Mar 20, 2013 at 08:46 AM mendoza Says:

tel mr nelson .be concern about the rape and killing that go in the park all year round , esp in the summer months , wake up you jew hater

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 Mar 20, 2013 at 10:03 AM Norden Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

Not sure I understand. We ALWAYS throw our bread into the lakes in Rockland and have been for years. There are hundreds of us who have been doing this for years.

Yes, but do you know *why* you "ALWAYS throw [y]our bread into the lakes in Rockland and have been for years"?

If you do not know then we must ask you why not.

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 Mar 20, 2013 at 10:11 AM Orthoconservereform Jew Says:

Reply to #13  
OyGevald Says:

All those who say its NOT done, are those who belong to religious Orthodox congregations. Those who do toss their breads into lakes must belong to Reform or Conservative congregations that don't practice authentic Judaism altogether.

What makes me think that (a) you consider yourself a highly superior, super-orthodox chareidi Jew,and (b) that anyone else whose standards of yiddishkeit do not compare in any way with your own is probably not even Jewish in the first place?

Climb down off your high horse, OyGevald #13. When the Nazis, ym"s, and all the rest of the oppressors of Israel came to murder our forebears they did not distinguish between one "brand" of Judaism and another. Everyone was brutally slaughtered, no mattr what kind of kippa they wore.

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 Mar 20, 2013 at 03:10 PM savtat Says:

If erev Yom Tov falls out on shabbos you might throw the bread in the lake before chatzos. Have a great Yom Tov everyone. Enjoy the preparations.

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 Mar 21, 2013 at 04:11 AM PaulinSaudi Says:

This may be the largest tempest in the smallest teapot I have ever seen.

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