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Jerusalem - Remarks Calling For "Revenge" Against Seculars By Sephardi Chief Rabbi Nominee Removed From Website

Published on: July 5, 2013 10:02 AM
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FILE - Rabbai Shmuel Eliyahu, the Chief Rabbi of Safed, dance with young settlers near the disputed house in Hebron, also referred to as the Peace House. December 3, 2008. Photo by Uri Lenz/ FLASH90 FILE - Rabbai Shmuel Eliyahu, the Chief Rabbi of Safed, dance with young settlers near the disputed house in Hebron, also referred to as the Peace House. December 3, 2008. Photo by Uri Lenz/ FLASH90

Jerusalem - Remarks calling for “revenge” against seculars made in 2005 by Sephardi Chief Rabbi nominee, Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, have been removed from the news agency website on which they originally appeared after the comments began circulating on social media websites.

HAARETZ (http://bit.ly/14XnvKF) reports that Eliyahu’s comments, first appearing on the Kipa website in 2005 as part of an “Ask the Rabbi” feature, quote Eliyhau as answering in response to a question from a reader about the disengagement of the Gaza Strip that “revenge” needs to be taken against “seculars” for the “disaster” they brought upon “us.”

Eliyhau’s comments were removed without explanation by Kipa after they began circulating on Facebook and Twitter earlier this week.

A spokesman for Eliyahu said that his 2005 comments have been taken “out of context.”

The Israeli Attorney General announced earlier this week that if Eliyahu officially announces his candidacy for chief rabbi that he will be summoned for a hearing to explain his history of incendiary and racist remarks.


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 Jul 05, 2013 at 10:26 AM yonasonw Says:

Our own "Islamists" - I can only imagine the sacrifices freedom would suffer in the name of religion if people like this ran the Israeli...or any other...national government. We cherish and appreciate our own freedoms here in the United States, where a government employee has a secular governmental right to his or her Shabbos...but too many of our extremists would deny comparable rights to others...of course, because we are right and they are evil and wrong, and they have no comparable rights. Our "Islamists."

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 Jul 05, 2013 at 11:11 AM Reb Yid Says:

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yonasonw Says:

Our own "Islamists" - I can only imagine the sacrifices freedom would suffer in the name of religion if people like this ran the Israeli...or any other...national government. We cherish and appreciate our own freedoms here in the United States, where a government employee has a secular governmental right to his or her Shabbos...but too many of our extremists would deny comparable rights to others...of course, because we are right and they are evil and wrong, and they have no comparable rights. Our "Islamists."

Umm, you don't think Torah is right and anti-Torah is wrong? Also, you seem very concerned about inflammatory rhetoric--are you not equally concerned about freedom of speech? Some hotheads talk tough--this bothers you. The govt tells you what you can and can't say-that's OK
?

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 Jul 05, 2013 at 11:40 AM OscarMadison Says:

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Reb Yid Says:

Umm, you don't think Torah is right and anti-Torah is wrong? Also, you seem very concerned about inflammatory rhetoric--are you not equally concerned about freedom of speech? Some hotheads talk tough--this bothers you. The govt tells you what you can and can't say-that's OK
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Umm, you don't think calling for "revenge" against a group of people who think you do not represent "Torah" and want nothing to do with you is extremist, Taliban-type thinking? We all know that you think your muftis are the sole voices of Hashem in a cold, dark world and that anyone who doesn't bow to your innate superiority is a subhuman. We're not scared of you thugs anymore. There will be civil war over this.

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 Jul 05, 2013 at 12:00 PM A Says:

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Reb Yid Says:

Umm, you don't think Torah is right and anti-Torah is wrong? Also, you seem very concerned about inflammatory rhetoric--are you not equally concerned about freedom of speech? Some hotheads talk tough--this bothers you. The govt tells you what you can and can't say-that's OK
?

The Torah is always right. Where does the Torah say we should take revenge upon secular Jews?

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 Jul 05, 2013 at 12:04 PM yonasonw Says:

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Reb Yid Says:

Umm, you don't think Torah is right and anti-Torah is wrong? Also, you seem very concerned about inflammatory rhetoric--are you not equally concerned about freedom of speech? Some hotheads talk tough--this bothers you. The govt tells you what you can and can't say-that's OK
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Of course I believe "Torah is right and anti-Torah is wrong..." But in a democracy one's right to expression and religious practice is not dependent on their being "right" - and there is no arbiter of what is right or wrong...only arbiters and consequences for committing acts that demonstrably harm others.

Free speech protects all matter of offensive language...it does not protect speech that is reasonably likely to "inflame" others to violence. A racist can stand on his soap box all day long and denounce Jews...if he is at a KKK rally, however, he cannot get up and encourage a crowd to "go out and get the Jews," if it appears likely that his call for violence would be heeded. That is the test we should apply to the words of Rabbis who speak out agianst frei Yidden or others.

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 Jul 05, 2013 at 12:07 PM IronMaiden Says:

We have lost our way and need new leadership. Our yeshivos are raising sheep who have forgotten how to think, who are actually trained NOT to think.

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 Jul 05, 2013 at 12:18 PM enlightened-yid Says:

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Reb Yid Says:

Umm, you don't think Torah is right and anti-Torah is wrong? Also, you seem very concerned about inflammatory rhetoric--are you not equally concerned about freedom of speech? Some hotheads talk tough--this bothers you. The govt tells you what you can and can't say-that's OK
?

There are limitations to freedom of speech in U.S. law too. Religious extremists are more dangerous to communities around than a MSNBC talking heads spreading nonsense ideas. Religious leaders have flocks of men they have full control of; men who seek daily advice from these rabbis on root canals to what toilet paper to use on shabbos. It's not difficult for rabbis to turn on a kill switch in these men in the name of "Torah."

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 Jul 05, 2013 at 06:03 PM Anonymous Says:

Torah does not seek "revenge". The only way you can repair the universe is to restore Harmony by exacting harmony. This is another ignorant inception of fervor from a wayward leaning foolish unorthodox view which seeks blood rather than atonement.

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