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Jerusalem - Dozens Attack Charedi Soldier In Mea Shearim

Published on: July 9, 2013 01:47 PM
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Jerusalem - A haredi soldier was attacked by dozens of haredi men on Tuesday night in the ultra-Orthodox Jerusalem neighborhood of Mea Shearim.

According to the police, at approximately 19:30 the soldier, who was in uniform, was surrounded and threatened by approximately 100 haredi men on Gimzo Street in the heart of Mea Shearim, but managed to flee to a nearby building and alert the police.

Several police units were called to the scene, including border police and riot police, who forcibly broke through the crowd of haredi men and succeeded in safely extracting the soldier.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said the unidentified soldier was “shaken up” but not injured when police arrived, adding that stones were thrown at officers by the crowd before the soldier was transported to safety.

A low-level riot continued after the soldier was extracted, with more haredi men joining the crowd, until the police succeeded in dispersing the protesters.

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At least four arrests were made on charges of disturbing the peace.

Minister for Science and Technology Yaakov Peri, who headed a committee which has drawn up legislation for drafting haredi men into the army, strongly condemned what his office termed “an attempted lynch.”

“Any attempt to physically harm or [damage] the morale of soldiers will be answered immediately and uncompromisingly by the state,” said Peri.

“Incidents such as what occurred this evening will not be allowed to pass quietly by the authorities. I request from the leaders of haredi society to assert control before a tragedy happens.”

Shas chairman Arye Deri said he was shocked and disgusted by the attack, blaming it on “extremist and delinquent youth.”

“Their ways are not our ways, and the sages said he who lifts up a hand against his fellow is called an evil person,” Deri noted in a statement to the press.

The Shas chairman said he was calling on the heads of all political parties to “return to dialogue, understanding and reconciliation,” in order to avoid similar incidents.

There have been at least two other physical attacks against haredi soldiers by members of the haredi public in recent weeks.

A concerted campaign is currently being conducted by radical elements in the ultra-Orthodox community to delegitimize and stigmatize haredi men who choose to serve in the IDF as having betrayed the haredi community.

The campaign includes the dissemination of flyers, posters and information about the “danger” haredi soldiers pose to the ultra-Orthodox community.

In a Knesset committee hearing last week, Brigadier-General Gadi Agmon from the IDF Manpower Directorate noted that the army has received 80 complaints of physical violence and verbal abuse, in which haredi soldiers have reported that tires of their vehicles have been slashed, graffiti has been sprayed at their homes, they have been spat on and had stones thrown at them.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:22 PM ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:06 PM DavidCohen Says:

Perfect behaviour these days when we mourn the destruction of the Bais Hamikdosh due to, well, this behaviour.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:14 PM mythoughts Says:

They need to carry their guns with them and defend themselves. A bunch of uncivilized human beings.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:15 PM OscarMadison Says:

Civil war is almost here. It's only a matter of time now. There is nothing to negotiate with the Haredim, there is nothing to discuss, no common ground anymore. All that's left now is to battle it out.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:15 PM maxedout Says:

It's time to enact a law that anyone, yes anyone, who attacks a soldier or policeman, get a mandatory stay in jail. These charedim who attack a fellow jew are nothing but animals and should be ashamed to call themselves jewish, let alone human. These are the people that are "sitting and learning for all of us?" They are sitting and learning like the pope is sitting and learning. Lets hear from alterg, Im sure that brainless wonder has something intelligent to say.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:15 PM Vasserman Says:

Why bother with fasting and mourning this year. Moshiach has no chance of coming while Jews behave this way towards their brethren. For shame.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:18 PM Kzler Says:

Chayalim risked their life and died to fight Hitler and now this ilk in the nine days is attacking a Jewish soldier. As a survivor I say better deal with goyim than this erev rav

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:19 PM Facts1 Says:

Hate breeds hate.

Thank You Lapid for starting this inciting war of words. Calling an entire populace "leeches" and "parasites" wont bring more enlistees. This is the result.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:20 PM Anonymous Says:

what a shame,
use live bullets on the crowd

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:24 PM Anonymous Says:

Why do I feel like these "Charedim" are nothing other than losers? If they aren't going to work they should at least learn, but they are all standing around wasting time, and worst of all beating up other frum Jews? What is wrong with these people?

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:31 PM toomanyquestions Says:

Rashaim! Lamuh sa'akem es rea'achem?

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:32 PM AlterHacker Says:

Dispicable, the rabunim should condem this act of animosity specialy during the 9 days.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:39 PM I was there Says:

I was there and there where only a few individuals, not dozens.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:40 PM DavidCohen Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

Shame on HIM? Are you serious? Even for you this type of blaming the victim is despicable. I'm glad to see that you are paying attention to the Nine Days and sinas chinom.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:40 PM Kzler Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

why do you live in E.Y. or in the U.S.. The state was declared by David Ben Gurion . Parasites like you should be shipped to Saudi Arabia

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:40 PM Chaim Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

Right. Blame the victim

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:45 PM THIS IS TERRORISM Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

Dear Prime Minister Netanyahu,

Attacking a member of the IDF is at minimum an act of war, and should likely be considered an act of terror. Israeli citizens who engage in such behaviour are declaring war on the State of Israel, and should be treated as enemies of the State. I strongly urge you to treat these criminals as such, and to revoke their citizenship and forcibly banish them from the State. Send them to Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Cuba, North Korea, anywhere in sub-Saharan Africa ... any place that would take this scum.

Sincerely

A friend of Israel

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:46 PM Forshayer Says:

Shame on him??? He knew that other Chareidim will lose their cool and attack him? That is not shameful?

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:47 PM Ari48 Says:

Disgusting ! A Chareidi soldier that is in the army to protect his fellow brothers is attacked ! They should all serve in the army or leave to another country or Island ! What a Chillul Hashem

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:48 PM enlightened-yid Says:

Why does a "holy community" looks like the slums of Pakistan? Clean up your neighborhoods if you want to represent God. Even Bronx looked better in the 80s crack era. They're attacking soldiers today and tomorrow they'll start acid attacks on women just like in Pakistan.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:48 PM Zeidy Says:

This is what happens when people don't work (we see that in Egypt and in other places where there is violence) we have to take these people to the army to and in the army they can turn an animal into a human being, and then they could go and get a regular job so they would have money and they would have what to do during the day so they would not have to throw stones like the Arabs in GAZA and the West Bank

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:48 PM AlterHacker Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

The solider does not need justification for being there. Howevere there is no justification to cause any kind o harm to an other Yud, as Moshe had said "lomo sakeh es reiechu.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 02:53 PM IronMaiden Says:

Its so reassuring to know these Torah scholars are hard at work protecting the country!

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:00 PM chzkubrch Says:

#1 Maybe he lives there? I think the better question is why would Jews hurt another jew for protecting jews??

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:01 PM yidineh Says:

perhaps he is a chareidi to begin with. the behavior of (some of) the residents of meah shearim shames me. do they really think this is the way to win friends and influence people? is this the way to bring on the geulah? is this what is meant by hochiach tochiach? I don't think so

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:01 PM Geulah Says:

AlterG, he lives there? Wasn't that a hava minah by you? Shame on you for thinking that soldiers can only live in Tel Aviv or its suburbs. Shame on the lowlifes in Meah Shearim who's actions are inconsistent with Torah teachings and makes a mockery of Yiddishkeit. Maybe those idiots cut Matos-Masai out of the scrolls they read or they go to spit on the kever of Reuven on his yahrzeit. Either way they shouldn't be lauded, they should be landed in jail.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:09 PM Erlich Says:

Haredi cowards and weaklings. Dozens attacking one person. No different than several Haredim taunting or spitting at a lone woman. Major chillul Hashem. No wonder when secular Jews watch this on TV in Israel, they despise Haredim. The chilonim ask: Is this what your Torah teaches??

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

Are you serious? A Jewish soldier shouldn't come into a Jewish neighborhood in EY? Blame the victim much? You need to get down on your knees and beg the RBSO to forgive you for making such a hurtful statement!

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:16 PM reporter12345 Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

When i read stories like this i am embarrassed to be in the characterized with these animals because they are far from religious jew.
These so called haredim are no better than their arab neighbors.
Disgusting! I wish the army wouldn't protect these fools for one day and see how many of them survive.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:19 PM Facts1 Says:

Reply to #4  
OscarMadison Says:

Civil war is almost here. It's only a matter of time now. There is nothing to negotiate with the Haredim, there is nothing to discuss, no common ground anymore. All that's left now is to battle it out.

Sounds familiar, oh yes the the non religious Hellenists vs the Hareidi Maccabees.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:24 PM Anonymous Says:

If these people want to live and act like they are still living in 17th century europe, then they should move to Poland and Hungary. They won't because they know the gentiles in europe won't be so nice to them, like Israel is.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:25 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
Vasserman Says:

Why bother with fasting and mourning this year. Moshiach has no chance of coming while Jews behave this way towards their brethren. For shame.

please do not refer to these animals as "Jews". I don't want to be in the same classification as them. They are human refuse.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:25 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

This is NOT a Jewish neighborhood, it is a neighborhood of thugs. True Torah Yidden DO NOT act like this.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:26 PM Babishka Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

Maybe he lives there or he is visiting family members?

My son was in the Nahal Haredi and when he visited our relatives in Mea Shearim there were always a few lowlife dirtbags who insulted him and called him names, but no actual physical violence.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:34 PM לא ימוש התורה האמיתית והטהורה מפינו ומפי זרעינו Says:

לא ימוש התורה האמיתית והטהורה מפינו ומפי זרעינו

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:34 PM maxedout Says:

Alterg - this tisha b'av, take a nice long look in the mirror - you will see the reason why moshiach will not come in our day. You are a disgrace to yiddishkeit, you are nothing but hateful and despicable. I know these words are too big for you with that wonderful education you got in satmar. The rebbies in Satmar should all be ashamed of the hate that they teach you guys from the 1st day you set foot in cheder.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:50 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
I was there Says:

I was there and there where only a few individuals, not dozens.

It is not a stretch to imagine what these men do to their wives or children if they don't "behave".

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:54 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

Can you read.? It's was a Hareidi soldier. At any rate, his level of religious observation is irrelevant. ... He's not the story. The story is the despicable behaviour exhibited by these men, no doubt sanctioned by their leaders..

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 03:56 PM bubii Says:

Reply to #8  
Facts1 Says:

Hate breeds hate.

Thank You Lapid for starting this inciting war of words. Calling an entire populace "leeches" and "parasites" wont bring more enlistees. This is the result.

The truth hurts doesnt it? his description is born out by this degenerate behaviour of those who oppose everything that israel stands for,and you are a gigantic shoite and goilem.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 04:03 PM Robert Says:

There must be more to the story. I don't believe that a bunch of Hareidim saw a Hareidi soldier and decided to lynch him. Was there an argument ? Did the Haredi soldier pick a fight ? Something tells me it didn't just happen the way it is depicted on this site, and other secular media outlets. Obviously attacking anyone is terrible.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 04:08 PM HP-Edison Says:

Anxiously awaiting statement from Agudah condemning this un-Jewish and uncouth violence.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 04:20 PM Realistic Says:

Reply to #4  
OscarMadison Says:

Civil war is almost here. It's only a matter of time now. There is nothing to negotiate with the Haredim, there is nothing to discuss, no common ground anymore. All that's left now is to battle it out.

You mean with or without guns? How many dead do you expect?

Do you think the Medinah can handle two big minorities fighting with them?

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 04:29 PM DanielBarbaz Says:

These men who rioted are supposed to be learning. We are told that this is what they do rather than work etc. Why is it that so many men are outside either involved in the incident or watching. I know that when I am at work I do not have time or the opportunity to travel the streets or step out on my balcony.

Secondly, (This comment is addressed to # 13 above). If you were there and very few people took part, why did no Hareidim step in to stop the mob attack. Were they all there gawking......taking time from their learning?

(Thirdly, this comment is directed to AlterG......I don't know where you live, but I would like you to come to my neighborhood. You'll see how true ehrlich people treat each other. We respect each other and love our fellow Yidden. Obviously the people who are in Mea Shearimg who conduct themselves this way are not real Jews. Did you not ever learn in grade school that we suspect a person's lineage if he/she is not compassionate?)

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 04:30 PM 5TResident Says:

Yes. And next week we will all be reading Eichah and saying kinos and wailing over the loss of the Bais Hamikdosh, when it is perfectly clear that Sinas Chinam is alive and well among "Torah Jews". We have learned nothing, NOTHING, in 2000 years about Jews needing to be united. Forget about the Bais Hamikdosh; maybe we should fast and wail because we're still a troublesome, childish, stiff-necked people without any sense in our heads.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 04:39 PM Deveee Says:

Reply to #8  
Facts1 Says:

Hate breeds hate.

Thank You Lapid for starting this inciting war of words. Calling an entire populace "leeches" and "parasites" wont bring more enlistees. This is the result.

Totally agree.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 04:49 PM Anonymous Says:

according to arutz sheva he was visiting familly there

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 04:50 PM UseYourHead Says:

This is literally how Yerushalayim fell. Also, these people need to be doing something productive. They seem really bored.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 05:09 PM The_Truth Says:

Things to thin about:
-What happens when a Chareidi walks in a non-religious neighborhood? Nothing. They may give him strange looks, but no one would attack him for being a leech. -What would happen if a Chareidi walked in to an Arab Neighborhood"? Cv"S he may not return.
-What would happen if a Chiloni soldier walked into Meah Sharim? I am sure they would not have attacked the soldier if he was not a religious soldier.

The answer obviously is: tell all those in Mea Shearim that the Chareidi IDF soldiers now dress as arabs & have moved to Gaza - that should straighten a few things out & make everyone happy!

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 05:11 PM Anonymous Says:

I think we should hit the people in Meah Shearim where it hurts them most; in their pockets. Stop buying from their stores, stop populating their streets, stop buying from their food establishments. Just see how quickly they'd stop hurting our chayalim!

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 05:04 PM Crazykanoiy Says:

Reply to #13  
I was there Says:

I was there and there where only a few individuals, not dozens.

Did you protest? Were you mocheh against these hooligans?

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 05:06 PM A Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

Shame on you for blaming the victim. Maybe one day you'll be attacked, robbed and left crippled and someone will come on here and blame you for leaving your house.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 05:29 PM OscarMadison Says:

Reply to #39  
bubii Says:

The truth hurts doesnt it? his description is born out by this degenerate behaviour of those who oppose everything that israel stands for,and you are a gigantic shoite and goilem.

You sound exactly like a Palestinian. Their barbaric actions are always the fault of the "zionists". Maybe you should move to Damascus and chant khaybar khaybar along with them. You are not a Jew.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 05:32 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #42  
Realistic Says:

You mean with or without guns? How many dead do you expect?

Do you think the Medinah can handle two big minorities fighting with them?

How many dead? Depends on how long it'll take the IDF to occupy Mea Sharim. They'll have to fight door to door.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 05:36 PM yidineh Says:

Reply to #21  
Zeidy Says:

This is what happens when people don't work (we see that in Egypt and in other places where there is violence) we have to take these people to the army to and in the army they can turn an animal into a human being, and then they could go and get a regular job so they would have money and they would have what to do during the day so they would not have to throw stones like the Arabs in GAZA and the West Bank

there is something very wrong with calling people animals. most chareidim do learn torah, do support their families. these people are hoodlums. having or not having money has nothing to do with it. true, they are causing a chilul HaShem, which no small things, but they are not animals

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 05:38 PM AlIzNishtGit Says:

Back in Europe, these Chareidim didn't lift a finger as they were herded onto trains, but today in Israel, Lo Aleinu a frum yid wants to protect his fellow Jews and they beat him up!

.....aaaaaannnnndddd this is why nobody listens to "Gedolim" anymore.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 05:43 PM CSLMoish Says:

Lets put this into perspective. These same youths would not dream of walking without their hat on the streets or eat an ice cream in the street. Yet, they have no problem surrounding and threatening a Jewish soldier like common Arab terrorists. This tells me that their street and their leadership frowns more on ice cream then beating up on another Jew. Fact! End of story!

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 05:52 PM MyComment Says:

Reply to #35  
לא ימוש התורה האמיתית והטהורה מפינו ומפי זרעינו Says:

לא ימוש התורה האמיתית והטהורה מפינו ומפי זרעינו

תופשי תורה לא ידועונו in last weeks haftora. Get what the novi is saying?. As rashi says the novi is referring to the sanhedrin. I could not beleive rashi but today i have no choice but to agree with rashi

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 06:07 PM Facts1 Says:

Reply to #39  
bubii Says:

The truth hurts doesnt it? his description is born out by this degenerate behaviour of those who oppose everything that israel stands for,and you are a gigantic shoite and goilem.

You are part of the problem.

Either way, the truth does not solve problems, diplomacy does.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 06:10 PM seicheldig Says:

All I see in all these comments is hate against chareidim & don't fool anyone you're a hater you're a hater we all know the truth

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 06:16 PM SF2K1 Says:

Reply to #49  
Anonymous Says:

I think we should hit the people in Meah Shearim where it hurts them most; in their pockets. Stop buying from their stores, stop populating their streets, stop buying from their food establishments. Just see how quickly they'd stop hurting our chayalim!

The ones who have the stores are rich, they're not the problem, they have businesses and jobs. You just need to stop giving to the schnorrers collecting for the organizations that permit and encourage this kind of behavior. If you don't know where your money is going, it's probably going straight into the hands of these bochurim and their ilk.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 06:16 PM Raanan Says:

Reply to #5  
maxedout Says:

It's time to enact a law that anyone, yes anyone, who attacks a soldier or policeman, get a mandatory stay in jail. These charedim who attack a fellow jew are nothing but animals and should be ashamed to call themselves jewish, let alone human. These are the people that are "sitting and learning for all of us?" They are sitting and learning like the pope is sitting and learning. Lets hear from alterg, Im sure that brainless wonder has something intelligent to say.

So, what masekhta is the pope learning???

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 06:18 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
Anonymous Says:

what a shame,
use live bullets on the crowd

Please don't open your mouth to evil, we have plenty of precedents in the gemara for NEVER doing what you just did.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 06:20 PM seicheldig Says:

what is this calling for the army to shoot people I'm ashamed to B called a jew who ever said that comment probably ashamed anyhow just found a reason to bash a frum yid it's like the gemure says an am huertz hates a talmud chuchem more then a goy hates a jew & don't tell me story's you were all talking with broad strokes so anyone who reads the comments sees thru the hate

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 06:31 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
Anonymous Says:

what a shame,
use live bullets on the crowd

I'm not justifying charedi violence against a Jewish soldier. Yesterday many financial benefits were taken away from tax-paying kollel men & their wives as a penalty for not working. Today was a very hot day & the year is winding down to bein zemanim. The state is trying to force charedim into the army & maybe all of this culminated into someone saying something inappropriate to a soldier w/family in the neighbourhood. People can make mistakes. In general, the people on that particular street live in a very, very, very simple lifestyle & are nice people to deal with, though posters in that area take a pretty extreme stance. Next time I'm in that area (very close to Kikar Shabbath) I'd like to talk to them & see what their positions are. In general, I've not seen charedim in Israel physically hurt other Jews, there really must be more to this story so it's better to hold off judgement & not say harsh, hurtful things, ESPECIALLY during the 9 Days. What would Aharon or Hillel do in such a situation? Yes, I know that Macabees fought the Hellenists & physically got rid of them, but that soldier was hardly a Hellenist. It's very likely that beyond being observant, he may be a goodlearner

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 06:43 PM Kamtza and Br Kamtza Says:

Remember the גמרא in מסכת גיטין ? We learned it in camp every Tisha B'av I couldn't find anywhere that the בית המקדש was destroyed because they ate treif or the didn't observe Shabbos it was only destroyed because of שנאת חנם and מחלוקת why don't our Rabbinical leaders and daas Torah put an end to this? Is it because they are afraid if Moshiach comes they may loose their big buildings? I'm in my upper 50's and I remember we HAD LEADERS who were not afraid to speak out against people looking for Machlokes. I remember I was a young child in the 60's when The Holy Satmar Rebbi זצ"ל banned the local Williamsburg נטורי קרתא (they called themselves שווארצע after the family name of their leader) from Satmar Shul on Rodney St. He was a man with conviction he went to Manhattan center (in an inside auditoriam) sitting next to Reb. Moshe Feinstein to protest against forced autopsies in Israel. Never would he go out in the streets of NY to an anti-Israel protest. He would've dealt with it the correct way...WHERE ARE THE RABONIM? why don't we hear their מחאות ? I hate to believe that we are ח"ו doomed. Young Rabonim and Roshei Yeshivos please save our children and grandchildren.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 06:50 PM Disgusted Says:

There have been numerous attacks against ultra-Orthodox soldiers of the IDF, by religious zealots in extremists in Mea Shearim. If these incidents involved Arabs attacking soldiers, the police and the Shin Bet, would have made mass arrests, and staged numerous raids, in an effort to identify the perpetrators, and any cells which they might be operating from. However, in these incidents, the Israeli Police, as well as the Shin Bet, have done next to nothing. Why are they handling the perpetrators with such kid gloves? Is it because of their political power?

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 07:03 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #64  
Anonymous Says:

I'm not justifying charedi violence against a Jewish soldier. Yesterday many financial benefits were taken away from tax-paying kollel men & their wives as a penalty for not working. Today was a very hot day & the year is winding down to bein zemanim. The state is trying to force charedim into the army & maybe all of this culminated into someone saying something inappropriate to a soldier w/family in the neighbourhood. People can make mistakes. In general, the people on that particular street live in a very, very, very simple lifestyle & are nice people to deal with, though posters in that area take a pretty extreme stance. Next time I'm in that area (very close to Kikar Shabbath) I'd like to talk to them & see what their positions are. In general, I've not seen charedim in Israel physically hurt other Jews, there really must be more to this story so it's better to hold off judgement & not say harsh, hurtful things, ESPECIALLY during the 9 Days. What would Aharon or Hillel do in such a situation? Yes, I know that Macabees fought the Hellenists & physically got rid of them, but that soldier was hardly a Hellenist. It's very likely that beyond being observant, he may be a goodlearner

You sound like a very nice, but an EXTREMELY NAIVE person.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 07:05 PM innocent bystander Says:

Question; doesn't chareidi mean frum? Religious? Observant? Just asking........

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 07:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #59  
seicheldig Says:

All I see in all these comments is hate against chareidim & don't fool anyone you're a hater you're a hater we all know the truth

And you are ALSO a hater!

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 07:10 PM OYVY2 Says:

Reply to #8  
Facts1 Says:

Hate breeds hate.

Thank You Lapid for starting this inciting war of words. Calling an entire populace "leeches" and "parasites" wont bring more enlistees. This is the result.

these boychiks don't need "incitement" they need to be gainfully employed and busy so that they won't have time on their hands for this and other things that they do. Where are our learned "gedolim" to speak up. vey is to us. When these hoodlums get on the #2 bus to the Kotel to daven maybe they should be reminded that they are safe to do this because of our wonderful Chayalim , Chareidi or otherwise

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 07:14 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #41  
HP-Edison Says:

Anxiously awaiting statement from Agudah condemning this un-Jewish and uncouth violence.

please don't hold your breath, Agudah, I'm being sarcastic, has sooooo many important things to involve themselves in

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 07:39 PM Refyok Says:

It must be comforting to those posters that are charedi and disagree with these types of violent acts to claim that it's just a few "zealots". But it isn't. The gedolim are silent as usual because they approve of it. This IS what charedism has become.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 08:20 PM Anonymous Says:

Are all blacks killers and under educated? No. Well All charedim don't attack soldiers or spit on woman, there are bad apples everywhere. Posters here are embarrassed to be called yiddn bc of a few sickos that attacked a jewish soldier, well I'm embarrassed to be called a yid by all these yid haters here who attack a whole group of pp without knowing the whole story, mayb the soldier started by asking those few sick pp why they don't join the army and they pounced him? And even if they did start up then so what, obviously they mentally ill and only other sick pp will use these mentally disturbed and define a whole community by there actions.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 08:23 PM Aher2012 Says:

Reply to #61  
Raanan Says:

So, what masekhta is the pope learning???

Masechet avoda zarah.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 08:51 PM Moishe-K Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

Shame on You for defending these thugs. The Gedolim should speak up against this Chillul Hashem.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 08:55 PM Kzler Says:

Reply to #59  
seicheldig Says:

All I see in all these comments is hate against chareidim & don't fool anyone you're a hater you're a hater we all know the truth

If you have seichel you would not have posted your comment you have hooligans dressed up as Yidden. A sheigetz is a a sheigetz even with a black hat and lange schwentz. You are parasites. Ahavas Yisroel is a strange y to you a walking on the moon.
Any Yid WHO HITS anther Yid after
Auschwitz and
Treblinka is a menivel

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 09:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
I was there Says:

I was there and there where only a few individuals, not dozens.

It's a disgrace that there were so few. There should have been hundreds coming out to protest. If he wants to be a chayyal he should wear a kipa sruga and shave his beard.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 09:45 PM menachemwh Says:

it is up to the gedolim to speak out and stop this right now. Can you hear the little boys call the police nazis?

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 10:34 PM Anonymous Says:

It would be a real Kiddush hashem for the security forces to bulldoze the homes along the street this brave IDF soldier was attacked just as they would do to the homes of "innocent" Palestinians who attacked a member of the IDF. These Chareidim have openly declared and shown they don't wish to be treated as normal human beings and we should grant them their wish.

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 Jul 09, 2013 at 11:25 PM Avi Says:

Reply to #77  
Anonymous Says:

It's a disgrace that there were so few. There should have been hundreds coming out to protest. If he wants to be a chayyal he should wear a kipa sruga and shave his beard.

At least a kipa sruga indicates a God-fearing Jew. Apparently a black velvet kipa and/or fur hat indicates a Rasha.

As others write, the fact that there is no condemnation from within the Charedi ranks speaks volumes about the acceptability of such behavior.

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 Jul 10, 2013 at 01:11 AM Greener Says:

Reply to #8  
Facts1 Says:

Hate breeds hate.

Thank You Lapid for starting this inciting war of words. Calling an entire populace "leeches" and "parasites" wont bring more enlistees. This is the result.

I live in EY and regularly listen to the news. I never heard Lapid say that the "entire" charedi population are parasites. My best estimate is that not much more than two-thirds of the charedim are parasites.

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 Jul 10, 2013 at 03:33 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
ALTERG Says:

Why does this solider came to a jewish neighberhood to begin with? He knew this will happen, shame on him

Jewish neighberhood? What Jewish neighberhood?
The thugs who attacked the solider are evil and against everything it means to be a G-d fearing Jew, they worship idols and NOT Hashem. Shame on them, Kol Hakovod to the jewish solider, may he have plenty of Brocha from Hashem and be have endless mitzvot to his name.

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 Jul 10, 2013 at 09:03 AM PaulinSaudi Says:

Reply to #15  
Kzler Says:

why do you live in E.Y. or in the U.S.. The state was declared by David Ben Gurion . Parasites like you should be shipped to Saudi Arabia

Now, was that called for?

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 Jul 10, 2013 at 09:58 AM 6chickens Says:

Reply to #13  
I was there Says:

I was there and there where only a few individuals, not dozens.

What do we read in Pirke Avos, where there is no men, be a man? You stood around and did nothing. That's more mouse than man. If it was even one person beating up on you, wouldn't it be too much?

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 Jul 10, 2013 at 11:48 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #76  
Kzler Says:

If you have seichel you would not have posted your comment you have hooligans dressed up as Yidden. A sheigetz is a a sheigetz even with a black hat and lange schwentz. You are parasites. Ahavas Yisroel is a strange y to you a walking on the moon.
Any Yid WHO HITS anther Yid after
Auschwitz and
Treblinka is a menivel

omein

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 Jul 10, 2013 at 11:47 AM yidineh Says:

Reply to #55  
AlIzNishtGit Says:

Back in Europe, these Chareidim didn't lift a finger as they were herded onto trains, but today in Israel, Lo Aleinu a frum yid wants to protect his fellow Jews and they beat him up!

.....aaaaaannnnndddd this is why nobody listens to "Gedolim" anymore.

this is a really stupid comment. the mesiras nefesh of the chareidim in Europe is well documented. have you and iran's president been reading the same books?

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 Jul 10, 2013 at 12:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #73  
Anonymous Says:

Are all blacks killers and under educated? No. Well All charedim don't attack soldiers or spit on woman, there are bad apples everywhere. Posters here are embarrassed to be called yiddn bc of a few sickos that attacked a jewish soldier, well I'm embarrassed to be called a yid by all these yid haters here who attack a whole group of pp without knowing the whole story, mayb the soldier started by asking those few sick pp why they don't join the army and they pounced him? And even if they did start up then so what, obviously they mentally ill and only other sick pp will use these mentally disturbed and define a whole community by there actions.

A society is not judged by the few rotten apples. It's judged by their reaction to those bad apples.

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 Jul 10, 2013 at 12:40 PM CommonSense Says:

Reply to #13  
I was there Says:

I was there and there where only a few individuals, not dozens.

A few don't work in a vaccum. It's a complete systemic breakdown that preaches violence.
Not much different than the Palestinians in that a complete way of teaching and dehumanizing...churns out a few terrorists.

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