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Borough Park, NY - David Flores Acquitted Of Attempted Murder Charge, Outrage Felt In Jewish Community

Published on: November 27, 2013 02:07 PM
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(PHOTO COURTESY TO VINnews.com) David Flores, 36, (Center) who is charged with attempted murder of Brooklyn Shomrim volunteers in September 2010 during a wild melee in Borough Park, sits at State Supreme Court on Nov. 26,. 2013 in Brooklyn for summations on his retrial.(NY DAILY NEWS) (PHOTO COURTESY TO VINnews.com) David Flores, 36, (Center) who is charged with attempted murder of Brooklyn Shomrim volunteers in September 2010 during a wild melee in Borough Park, sits at State Supreme Court on Nov. 26,. 2013 in Brooklyn for summations on his retrial.(NY DAILY NEWS)

Borough Park, NY - A Brooklyn man was cleared of almost all the charges on Wednesday relating to a 2010 incident involving the man and Shomrim volunteers.

According to the NY Daily News (http://bit.ly/18HPyTs) David Flores, 37 was convicted only on possessing a gun. He was acquitted of 15 other charges, including attempted murder and assault. Flores fired his gun in a Borough Park street in 2010 after his car was blocked by local community members, who believed he had just committed a lewd sexual act in front of children.

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During the five-week trial, prosecutors alleged that the Shomrim had been following Flores, believing he was guilty of performing the same lewd act one week earlier. The prosecution argued that the Shomrim only jumped him when he pulled a gun. The attack left him with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the arm.

Shomrim volunteers Abe Kaztow, Motty Brauner, Joel Klein and Motty Perl were shot.

Flores’s lawyers said his acts were done self-defense, and described an angry mob pounding on Flores’ car and attempting to drag him outside.

Assemblyman Dov Hikind stated, “It’s beyond comprehension. Four unarmed people shot and hospitalized. How was this sick individual not found guilty? How could the DA possible lose this case? Now Flores is out and capable of creating more mayhem? This is our justice system upside down. It’s insane!”
The unarmed Shomrim volunteers oversee the safety of the neighborhood, and many of the Orthodox Jewish locals call them first in the event of an emergency.

Flores still faces between five to 15 years in prison at a sentencing next month. He has already been in jail for three years awaiting trial.

Meanwhile, Councilman David G. Greenfield is requesting that Flores receive the maximum sentence allowed under law. 

Councilman Greenfield is now urging the judge presiding over the case to send a clear message that illegal guns will not be tolerated in New York City by handing down the maximum sentence allowed under the law when Flores is sentenced next month.

“It was very upsetting to hear that this individual will not be held fully accountable for his reckless actions, including shooting four volunteer neighborhood patrol members at close range. At the same time, I am relieved that the jury agreed that we cannot tolerate individuals carrying illegal guns around our city. I am calling on the judge overseeing next month’s sentencing to consider the importance of keeping illegal guns off our streets and sentence this individual to the maximum sentence allowed,” said Councilman Greenfield.


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 Nov 27, 2013 at 02:22 PM Anonymous Says:

Total shocked, where is our justice system these days?
He shot to kill 4 people and he is found not guilty?
Very sad day for our justice system.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 02:50 PM Anonymous Says:

Wonderful exactly a year ago on Chanukah a jury convicted a Jew without any evidence and everyone said the justice system is honest no bias no antisemitism
And today with all proof the guy got off the hook
WHAT A SHAME

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 02:55 PM yudel Says:

DA Hynes is the answer

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 03:18 PM Why wondering? Says:

he was found not guilty because he is black, as Bob Grand would say.......

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 03:21 PM Reb Yid Says:

If you're going to crop the photo, you've got to edit the caption. It makes no sense to put up a photo of two people and say that one of them's in the "center."

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 03:36 PM Mandel Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

Total shocked, where is our justice system these days?
He shot to kill 4 people and he is found not guilty?
Very sad day for our justice system.

in any case what is justice please explain?

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 03:37 PM MAYERFREUND Says:

This is thanks to the fact that come jury duty we all find excuses not to go. I was a number of time a juror and b"h I helped a Jewish women.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 04:42 PM shocked Says:

Reply to #5  
Reb Yid Says:

If you're going to crop the photo, you've got to edit the caption. It makes no sense to put up a photo of two people and say that one of them's in the "center."

your tzim zoch

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 04:36 PM Phineas Says:

Reply to #7  
MAYERFREUND Says:

This is thanks to the fact that come jury duty we all find excuses not to go. I was a number of time a juror and b"h I helped a Jewish women.

The way you phrase that makes your impartiality questionable.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 04:30 PM DRSLZ Says:

Reply to #7  
MAYERFREUND Says:

This is thanks to the fact that come jury duty we all find excuses not to go. I was a number of time a juror and b"h I helped a Jewish women.

IF you "helped a Jewish women [sic]" unfairly, you broke your oath, and this threatens the court system in this country.

Just a thought.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 04:28 PM enlightened-yid Says:

A lesson to Shomrim, be careful with your keystone cop, vigilante mob attacks on anyone you feel is a criminal. The citizens of 5 boroughs are well aware of your tactics. Youtube is filled with countless videos showing Shomrim mob attacks on non Jews. The same people serve on juries and remember how Shomrim behave as if they are the law onto themselves. Clearly the jury felt his actions were provoked by a mob. All other community watch and security only observe and report to the police, wait for the police to take action and not the other way around.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 03:43 PM Benny Says:

When Weberman was foung guilty everyone was quite and said he must be guilty..
so why when this guy is found NOT guilty you all jumping up and down..
Either you believe in juries or not...dont pick what suits your heart

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 03:51 PM CRITICISM Says:

To be honest, we took law into our own hands by preventing him from doing further indecent acts in front of our kedoishm tehoirm children. Not saying he was correct, but, maybe we should've let the law enforcements take care of this, as opposed to nabbing him. Unfortunately, there will be a time where someone who gets involved, will pay a price

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 03:54 PM ShatzMatz Says:

Listen to what the jurors said. They believed him when he said he was in fear of his life. And it is possibly true that he was scared after he was cornered. Since the Shomrim are not cops, they do not enjoy special protection under the law. This is actually a logical outcome. At least he got convicted on the gun charge. He could go away a long time for that. But shomrim have to realize that when they confront a perp they better tread carefully. Because if he fights back the law does not give them special privileges. They either make sure they could safely subdue the perp or they need to stand at a distance and call in pd. This is just a risk they take for us and we should be grateful.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 03:58 PM NY'er Says:

If you look at the case as an outsider I think justice did prevail. He was charged with attempted murder if you understand the law and what happened you will see that he was acting in self defense. Now if you peel down the case you will see that he is a perverted and sick person who needs a lot of help. When you are sitting in the car and a group of people attack your car what will you do? They should have called the cops to do the stopping. And even though Shomrim did do a good job but they are not the cops and they can get a little violent some times. Attempted of murder is when someone goes out there and want's to kill and fails. He did not wake up in the morning and say let me kill somebody today, so no he didn't commit attempted of murder.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 04:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

Wonderful exactly a year ago on Chanukah a jury convicted a Jew without any evidence and everyone said the justice system is honest no bias no antisemitism
And today with all proof the guy got off the hook
WHAT A SHAME

Well said....... As long as your name is not Weberman and as long as you're not an ultra Orthodox Jew the jury won't find you guilty even though the evidence is clear he shot 4 patrol volunteers. You want to know why? Because these volunteers are "ultra Orthodox Jews" people people open up your eyes and smell the coffee.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 04:26 PM bubii Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

Wonderful exactly a year ago on Chanukah a jury convicted a Jew without any evidence and everyone said the justice system is honest no bias no antisemitism
And today with all proof the guy got off the hook
WHAT A SHAME

You are a mental case what are you talking about convicted a jew without evidence are you sane,di shoite.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 04:50 PM EmesMeieretz Says:

TO NO. 2 You took the words out of my mouth, cannot agree more!

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 05:13 PM I know better Says:

Reply to #11  
enlightened-yid Says:

A lesson to Shomrim, be careful with your keystone cop, vigilante mob attacks on anyone you feel is a criminal. The citizens of 5 boroughs are well aware of your tactics. Youtube is filled with countless videos showing Shomrim mob attacks on non Jews. The same people serve on juries and remember how Shomrim behave as if they are the law onto themselves. Clearly the jury felt his actions were provoked by a mob. All other community watch and security only observe and report to the police, wait for the police to take action and not the other way around.

You may be well enlightened...but one thing is certain: you sound like a sick, self-hater.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 05:19 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
yudel Says:

DA Hynes is the answer

Yup. And he can't be tried again. Were any Jews on the jury? Oh I forgot, Jews always wriggle out of jury duty somehow.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 05:21 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
enlightened-yid Says:

A lesson to Shomrim, be careful with your keystone cop, vigilante mob attacks on anyone you feel is a criminal. The citizens of 5 boroughs are well aware of your tactics. Youtube is filled with countless videos showing Shomrim mob attacks on non Jews. The same people serve on juries and remember how Shomrim behave as if they are the law onto themselves. Clearly the jury felt his actions were provoked by a mob. All other community watch and security only observe and report to the police, wait for the police to take action and not the other way around.

You are an idiot. When you need help, you will pray Shomrim show up because the police often don't. We can only rely on Shomrim & I have nothing but respect & gratitude for these selfless volunteers.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 06:05 PM DanielBarbaz Says:

Reply to #7  
MAYERFREUND Says:

This is thanks to the fact that come jury duty we all find excuses not to go. I was a number of time a juror and b"h I helped a Jewish women.

Are you saying that you were not impartial?

Shame on you!!!

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 06:12 PM MittGlick Says:

I would be willing to wager that the people who were pleased when Zimmerman was acquitted in the murder of Trayvon Martin, are now expressing outrage at the outcome of the Flores trial.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 06:25 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #17  
bubii Says:

You are a mental case what are you talking about convicted a jew without evidence are you sane,di shoite.

You should visit any mental institution they all say the same exact words on everybody else
We are used to your style of writing whenever you have nothing what to say you can't deny facts and keep a debate you start with name callings, big deal!

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 06:27 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #21  
Anonymous Says:

You are an idiot. When you need help, you will pray Shomrim show up because the police often don't. We can only rely on Shomrim & I have nothing but respect & gratitude for these selfless volunteers.

Keyword: volunteers
Why don't other communities have their own shomrim. Don't you think every community should have their own including non-Jews?

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 06:52 PM Anonymous Says:

Center is when one sits between two people....

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 06:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

Wonderful exactly a year ago on Chanukah a jury convicted a Jew without any evidence and everyone said the justice system is honest no bias no antisemitism
And today with all proof the guy got off the hook
WHAT A SHAME

Here we go again...I guess you have to find out what the word evidence is...you still are living in la la land.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 06:59 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
enlightened-yid Says:

A lesson to Shomrim, be careful with your keystone cop, vigilante mob attacks on anyone you feel is a criminal. The citizens of 5 boroughs are well aware of your tactics. Youtube is filled with countless videos showing Shomrim mob attacks on non Jews. The same people serve on juries and remember how Shomrim behave as if they are the law onto themselves. Clearly the jury felt his actions were provoked by a mob. All other community watch and security only observe and report to the police, wait for the police to take action and not the other way around.

There you go again enlightened yid....are you a yid to begin with...???or is your hatred and bias against your own people so big that you don't know it yourself because you are comsumed???Oh...I just wish you would stay away......enlightened yid....what a name...

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 07:01 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
Benny Says:

When Weberman was foung guilty everyone was quite and said he must be guilty..
so why when this guy is found NOT guilty you all jumping up and down..
Either you believe in juries or not...dont pick what suits your heart

Why are you comparing stories...he was guilty and got what was coming to him. Here, a guy attempted to kill people who were trying to defend someone and they let him free..........please get your stories and facts straight.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 07:04 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #19  
I know better Says:

You may be well enlightened...but one thing is certain: you sound like a sick, self-hater.

Good morning...you don't know "enlightened yid"? he shows up all over the place, opening displaying his hatred....all the time, every time.!!!!

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 08:36 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
Benny Says:

When Weberman was foung guilty everyone was quite and said he must be guilty..
so why when this guy is found NOT guilty you all jumping up and down..
Either you believe in juries or not...dont pick what suits your heart

everyone knows weberman is innocent - especially the liars who framed him

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 08:51 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
MAYERFREUND Says:

This is thanks to the fact that come jury duty we all find excuses not to go. I was a number of time a juror and b"h I helped a Jewish women.

1. Learn English.
2. What does it mean you "helped" a Jewish woman? that you found hre not guilty when she was guilty?

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 08:52 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #17  
bubii Says:

You are a mental case what are you talking about convicted a jew without evidence are you sane,di shoite.

what evidence was there in that case bubbe?? you are the shoite if you believe that mamzeres (mamash - not exagerating - her father told weberman he doesn't believe she is his daughter as blond hair doesn't run in their family. why do u believe her lies when her actual abuser who she is married to even though it is against halachah for him to marry her put her up to it to cover his own crimes)

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 08:56 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #19  
I know better Says:

You may be well enlightened...but one thing is certain: you sound like a sick, self-hater.

"well enlightened"? get a refund for your English education.

and you really should learn what words mean before you use them. what is a "self-hater" in the context of this article?

idiot!

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 10:02 PM To Idiot #33 Says:

Reply to #33  
Anonymous Says:

what evidence was there in that case bubbe?? you are the shoite if you believe that mamzeres (mamash - not exagerating - her father told weberman he doesn't believe she is his daughter as blond hair doesn't run in their family. why do u believe her lies when her actual abuser who she is married to even though it is against halachah for him to marry her put her up to it to cover his own crimes)

Hold on a sec. Are you saying this girl is a liar because her own father thinks she's not his? Which makes his wife an adulteress.

Do you cretins ever think what comes out of your mouth or what illiterate garbage you type? Go back & read what you posted & think (if you are capable of independent thought) exactly what the implications are of what you wrote.

I have to say, this moronic post has now convinced me this poor girl was telling the truth. Nebach, her own father accuses her of being illegitimate & by default, his wife of being a korva. No wonder she went OTD. Who wouldn't being raised in a home like that? Easy prey for Weberman. Bet you, #33, are just as sick & repulsive.

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 Nov 27, 2013 at 10:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #25  
Anonymous Says:

Keyword: volunteers
Why don't other communities have their own shomrim. Don't you think every community should have their own including non-Jews?

they do have community watch in non-Jewish communities

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 01:56 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #31  
Anonymous Says:

everyone knows weberman is innocent - especially the liars who framed him

I don't know of anyone who thinks he is innocent. You are still dreaming....wew...all of Williamsburg knows the truth by now...what are you drinking?

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 05:47 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #31  
Anonymous Says:

everyone knows weberman is innocent - especially the liars who framed him

obviously, not "everyone" knows weberman is innocent, unless by "everyone" you mean you.
if the the people who allegedly framed him are liars and he is innocent, why don't you do something about it? get "everyone" to testify that this was a frame job! testify as to what you know about the liars framing him!

um,and if you can't, then sit down and shut up!

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 07:42 AM AuthenticSatmar Says:

The DA Hynes messed up. He refused to offer a deal. He wanted to prove to the community that he cared when we all know he doesn't. The facts of the case were never in question and even the shomrim members involved expected this outcome.
The real news in the story is that the NYPD messed up this case bad. They did not take a report a week earlier when he was witnessed exposing himself and when approached by the shomrim he drove on to the sidewalk almost hitting a number of people to get out off a traffic jam. The jury in multiple interviews have commented on the poor work of the NYPD and support of the shomrim's intentions.

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 12:40 PM MoshiachPleaseComeNOW Says:

Shomrim, this one is for you. Not one comment gave you a complete Yasher Koach!

When we are in need of help... YOU ARE ALWAYS THERE

Thanks You - Thank You and Thank You!!!

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 09:33 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #35  
To Idiot #33 Says:

Hold on a sec. Are you saying this girl is a liar because her own father thinks she's not his? Which makes his wife an adulteress.

Do you cretins ever think what comes out of your mouth or what illiterate garbage you type? Go back & read what you posted & think (if you are capable of independent thought) exactly what the implications are of what you wrote.

I have to say, this moronic post has now convinced me this poor girl was telling the truth. Nebach, her own father accuses her of being illegitimate & by default, his wife of being a korva. No wonder she went OTD. Who wouldn't being raised in a home like that? Easy prey for Weberman. Bet you, #33, are just as sick & repulsive.

she didn't go OTD - which is more proof that she is lying because kids who are abused usually do go OTD

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 01:20 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #39  
AuthenticSatmar Says:

The DA Hynes messed up. He refused to offer a deal. He wanted to prove to the community that he cared when we all know he doesn't. The facts of the case were never in question and even the shomrim members involved expected this outcome.
The real news in the story is that the NYPD messed up this case bad. They did not take a report a week earlier when he was witnessed exposing himself and when approached by the shomrim he drove on to the sidewalk almost hitting a number of people to get out off a traffic jam. The jury in multiple interviews have commented on the poor work of the NYPD and support of the shomrim's intentions.

again, we don't "all" know anything, so speak for yourself, especially as you are Satmar.

And before you criticize others, did anyone bother to take a phone photo of the incident, or his car on the sidewalk? or were you yentas all too busy watching?

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 02:04 PM Benny Says:

Reply to #31  
Anonymous Says:

everyone knows weberman is innocent - especially the liars who framed him

i agree with you but the JURY didnt agree with us...

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 02:03 PM Benny Says:

Reply to #29  
Anonymous Says:

Why are you comparing stories...he was guilty and got what was coming to him. Here, a guy attempted to kill people who were trying to defend someone and they let him free..........please get your stories and facts straight.

I agree wity you 100% but we can NOT pick our juries which one we like...
I believe Weberman is NOT guilty and David Flores is GUILTY but its the jury who decides...Its NOT an issue of right and wrong...Its a jury decision...

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 02:13 PM Anonymous Says:

While Shomrim deserves a lot of credit for their Extreme Devotion And For Risking Themselves For the Safety of the Community, We Cannot Ignore the Fact as the jury stated "they're not cops." And in this particular incident it comes out that Shomrim were a bit Reckless. Nevertheless I think from the Most important things out Community really needs is the Shomrim And we All need to Show out Our Hakoras Hatov for their Extreme Devotion to keeping our community safe!

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 04:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #41  
Anonymous Says:

she didn't go OTD - which is more proof that she is lying because kids who are abused usually do go OTD

your "proof" is a good reason why juries decide cases on presented facts, not stupid, illogical assumptions like yours.

your proof that the girl was lying would be funny if morons like you didn't believe such stupidity to be credible evidence.

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 05:06 PM confusedmom Says:

Reply to #41  
Anonymous Says:

she didn't go OTD - which is more proof that she is lying because kids who are abused usually do go OTD

You don't know everything. Not everyone who is abused goes of the derech. There is such a thing as bechira. I was abused and am a frum, chassidish, mother. Yes, I have issues but never considered going OTD.

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 Nov 28, 2013 at 11:18 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #47  
confusedmom Says:

You don't know everything. Not everyone who is abused goes of the derech. There is such a thing as bechira. I was abused and am a frum, chassidish, mother. Yes, I have issues but never considered going OTD.

Keep strong! It's mom's like you that the world stands on!!

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