Israel – PHOTOS: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For Mass Haredi Prayer Rally In Jerusalem

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    Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation. REUTERS/Nir Elias Jerusalem – Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.

    Ultra-Orthodox leaders had called on their men, women and children to attend the protest against new legislation ending the wholesale army exemptions granted to seminary students, which is expected to pass in the coming weeks,

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    The issue is at the heart of an emotional national debate. Most Israeli Jewish men and women are called up for military service when they turn 18, but most ultra-Orthodox Jews, or “Haredim”, a Hebrew term meaning ‘those who tremble before God’, are excused from army service.

    Police said hundreds of thousands took part in the prayer. Israeli media estimated that between 250,000 to 400,000 attended.

    The ultra-Orthodox demonstration paralyzed parts of Jerusalem, blocked the main entrance to the city and halted public transport as the streets around swelled with streams of men in black hats and coats, the traditional Haredi garb.

    Rabbis wailed prayers over loudspeakers as the standing crowds swayed back and forth, repeating a plea to God to stop the law from being passed.

    “We want to show that we are united and we want to stop a bad thing that they are trying to force us into. The army is not our way of life. It is not run by our rabbis,” said 18-year-old Mordechai Seltzer.

    Haredim say the study of holy scriptures is a foundation of Jewish life, that scholars have a right to devote themselves full time to the tradition, and that army service would deny them fulfillment of that religious edict.
    Ultra-Orthodox Jewish women take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel. REUTERS/Darren Whiteside (
    “A CRIME TO STUDY TORAH”

    “The (new) law stipulates that a person who studies Torah might end up a criminal. Are we really going to allow it to become a crime to study the Torah?” said Guy, 43.

    Seventeen-year-old Israel, a seminary student who came to Israel from the United States, said his community would not give in. “There are so many of us that they cannot fight us. We are not worried. We do not want to fight them, but we are not going to do what they tell us to do,” he said.

    Haredim make up about 10 percent of Israel’s 8 million people. They are a fast-growing and relatively poor social group. Most Haredi men are unemployed and live off state benefits, donations and their wives’ often low wages.

    The ultra-Orthodox community is resented by many Israelis who accuse the Haredim of burdening the economy and sponging off the state while avoiding the duties that bind others.

    Changing the so-called secular-religious status quo in Israel has carried significant political risk in the past for its coalition governments, which have often relied on the support of ultra-Orthodox partners.

    But now, for the first time in a decade, Israel’s cabinet has no ultra-Orthodox members and main coalition partners have pressed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to enact reforms under a slogan of “sharing the burden”, so an ultra-Orthodox backlash poses little danger of destabilizing the government.

    A parliamentary committee has been formulating the new conscription bill for months. Though its supporters hail it as a historic step, critics say it will only be implemented in four years’ time and by then a new coalition government that could overturn the law would be in power.

    “They don’t need us in the army. This is a cultural show of force. The ultra-Orthodox community is growing very fast and the other part of the country is worried. They want to get us into their army. Zionism is not about going into the army,” said Maurice, 19, a seminary student from New York.

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    10 years ago

    What a flop!

    10 years ago

    When the arabs conquer Israel, let’s see how much you will leegdol batorah.

    RamapoJew
    RamapoJew
    10 years ago

    Look at all the women protesting. Me thinks they want their husbands to get jobs.

    LionofZion
    LionofZion
    10 years ago

    In Yeshiva they told us that if there was a moment that no one was learning Torah the world would cease to exist. It is a good thing Rabbi Druckman stayed back and is saving the world.

    Reuvan_Nuchem
    Reuvan_Nuchem
    10 years ago

    B”H I live in America. The torah was giving on Har Sinai for America.

    ALTERG
    ALTERG
    10 years ago

    What a kiddus hasham,
    מי כעמך ישראל
    בדרך התורה נלך, לקדש שם שמים
    Its a clear massage: jews will NOT go serve in the tumna IDF its against out torha to have a own jewish land

    berelw
    berelw
    10 years ago

    mass chilul hashem….protest the hand that protects you….of course everything you do is backwards….thats why very little people have respect for charaidim…its a shame as it should be reverse, perople should respect charadiim…but everything we do lacks menchlichkeit, class, respect, manners. to bad it didnt hail.

    TexasJew
    TexasJew
    10 years ago

    I guess the crowd was very small and they had no one to hold all the signs.
    Let’s hope they clean up before they leave. Spending some time in the army would fix this problem.

    Right613
    Right613
    10 years ago

    so this is what it has come to? or is this just the beginning of the end?

    schmaltzy
    schmaltzy
    10 years ago

    Very impressive. Now the questions are: Are all these “hundreds of thousands” of men really learning diligently enough to warrant their exemption from the army? Doubtful. Now that we see that “hundreds of thousands” od chareidi men are not serving, think about how unfair the burden is to those that have to serve longer because of their non participation.
    Finally when in history did we ever see an entire segment of klal yisroel not serving the army, besides shevet Levi? Even shevet Yissochar which was known for its learning Torah served in the army!
    The biggest question is: Is this refusal to serve in the army really due to the desire to learn and offer a spiritual protection as is claimed, or is it just another manifestation of a hatred of Zionism ? If so, since when is that a patur ? Be honest in answering that question.

    alterknaker
    alterknaker
    10 years ago

    As long as there will be no violence why not? Its a democracy let them protest, but we already know these SO CALLED YESHIVA BOYS from Jerusalem,

    10 years ago

    Such huge crowd and they all want to have other people’s children protecting them.

    MyComment
    MyComment
    10 years ago

    Why does this remind me of the story of the meraglim. When they masses were crying (eg protesting) going into the Land of Israel. I pray to the Almighty, that we don’t have to suffer like that generation before being allowed to enter the land given to our forefathers and all the repercussions even after enter the land. Its a sad day indeed.

    10 years ago

    My simple solution.
    Follow what Satmar Rebbe zl said.
    1. All frum get out of the kenesset let it be like the USA all the politicians running for office will come try get our votes, we will able to get everything from them. if not you just vote them out. It will be the biggest bloc vote. They will have to accommodate us.

    2. Every avriech over 25 years needs to get a job only those select few that really want to become gedolim. You can’t ask a secular state to cover for torah learning. And how can you learn Torah with money coming from a trief state.
    3. By doing number 2. All mosdos will be able to support themself parents will pay tuition make donations and your kids will learn Torah with kosher money.
    4. The government will never ask again for the draft. 1. We contribute to society and not a burden. 2. We can always vote out the mk’s who vote against us.

    Mark Levin
    Mark Levin
    10 years ago

    They are a typical backward socialist banana republic.

    All the farshultina sonay Yisroel socialist medina folks have to do is allow people to work and make an honest living despite not serving on their heyliga idf.

    OscarMadison
    OscarMadison
    10 years ago

    This disgraceful event got zero coverage in the major American news outlets.

    10 years ago

    It’s not 18th Century Hungary, where you lived in a Shetl and could live on potatoes and borscht. Even, then what did that lifestyle lead up to? The Shoah, because Yidden could not defend themselves. Yes, it would be nice to just learn, and never work, but is it not unfair to have others that you do not respect support and protect you? You don’t want to go into the army, ok, clean out bed pans in a hospital, feed the retarded, DO SOMETHING or leave.

    10 years ago

    Nebech, nebech, you have to feel sorry for these people.

    pickledherring
    pickledherring
    10 years ago

    Sort of lie “hell no….we won’t go”. This not a matter of studying ancient manuscripts they just dont wanna get killed in action. One glorified draft dodging yeshiva with one big difference. This is not Viet Nam or Korea take take take. Watch out Rockland county Orange you are next

    sndinc
    sndinc
    10 years ago

    what a chilul hashem if only 75% of the participants worked or shared the military burden the country would look so much different . This proves Lapid as right and shows how bankrupt the yeshiva and chareidi world is in israel today. shame on them! Rav Druckman and others are so right

    sissel613
    sissel613
    10 years ago

    Yeah, yeah ,yeah! What a disgrace! Excuse me, but my sons(who have peyos) all served in the army and they came home just fine, B”H. One slightly wounded. My girls did their national government services doing chesed work in a nursing home and in a facility for special needs children. They all came out better for the experience. They all went on to work part time and learn part time. The girls all married the same kinds of young men as their brothers.

    Next, what right did they have to block all this traffic? What if an ambulance had to get through and someone in there was critical? If that person died as a result, what would they say? ” Uhm, sorry”

    Third, the streets were left in disgusting condition! They all use the streets as heir personal garbage pail, like in Geula. I know, because I live there and see the street garbage everyday. Why didn’t they make sure they had a cleanup crew after? They all go home and shalom ol Yisroel. Let someone do the dirty work. No wonder they can’t stand the sight of us.

    10 years ago

    1.When Belz leaves Israel, whom are they leaving in Israel to topple R’ Moshe’s matzeiva at the yurzeit?
    2. The houses in the new belz shtetel being built in Lakewood is really being prepared when rebbe moves here. The secret is now out

    sndinc
    sndinc
    10 years ago

    shame on them let them go to work instead of mooching off the govt and share the burden as others do

    10 years ago

    No jew should join an atheistic army that comes in ninth in being gay friendly out of 103 countries. Even America came in number 40. Would you trust your kinderlech with such a tuma army.

    Bigboy
    Bigboy
    10 years ago

    All those negative comments…

    B”H what a beautiful Kiddush Hashem to see so many people come together in a respectful atmosphere. The beauty of Judaism. The achdus is amazing!

    10 years ago

    I was born in ארץ ישראל not as u call Israel left when I was 5 came to the u.s. went back to ישיבה & ב”ה did not have a Israeli passport so I could stayif not I have a problem with the רשעים, in the u.s.by the v.war when u were exzmapd, the isreli govermthe draft was in force if u got a latter from a ישבה u did not have to

    thegreatone
    thegreatone
    10 years ago

    Let the message be clear: A frum yid does not belong in the Israeli army it doesn’t matter if he learns all day or if he sleeps all day.
    Bennet and Lipman are not the example of a frum yid.
    The whole existence of a Jewish state before the coming of Moshiach is a rebellion against hashem .

    10 years ago

    Can you realy compare the army in the times of the Bais Hamikdosh to the Tzahal of today?
    I spent some time in Nachal Charaidi on temporary program to recrute american yeshiva boys. Small example: My non frum commander woke us up for shul shabbos morning, made sure noone was talking durring davvening as per army regulations then he went outside the shul to have a cigeratte as he was Non Charaidi and was alloud (as per army regulations), music coming from the Commander barracks on shabbos, etc.!

    Don’t be fooled. A great deal of the people trying to enforce this law hate the Charaidim and want them to equalise = secularise. I agree with most here that if a yeshiva boy is not learning should get a job or possibly military or national service that wont inffluence his faith! But don’t fall for the innocent cry of equality and don’t dissregard our Torah scholars who have first hand knowledge of the issues and are all saying this is negative decree on all frum people living in Israel. I think a sulotion could be worked out, so long as there is a solution based on mutual understanding and respect and not on rabid hatred!

    My first hand two cents.

    10 years ago

    This was one of the most awesome events I’ve ever attended.
    It was beautifly orgabized and respectful. was

    10 years ago

    Nebech, they don’t hold mass protests and read Tehilim against Iran’s nuclear program, which can destroy all of them in one minute. Very sad, you have to feel sorry for them.

    Deveee
    Deveee
    10 years ago

    What an amazing kiddush hashem.
    The mizrachists of today are the reform of yesteryear.

    RebKlemson
    RebKlemson
    10 years ago

    i think cleanup is on the medina! share the sanitation burden! truth is if all of them spent the day learning it would not only be more productive but more protection as they keep promising. but no, they need action in their life and this is the only way to get it.

    10 years ago

    The solution is quite simple, really. Let the Haredi communities form an autonomous province of their own. They should get no funding from the medina. No roads, no water, no electricity, no hospitals , not even garbage removal. Then they can live however they please.

    themima
    themima
    10 years ago

    Reading these posts I now understand shy the Bais Hamikdosh was destroyed. We need to cry over the matzav of all jews not spew hatred

    10 years ago

    The world’s attention is now focused on UKRAINE AND RUSSIA. No one, other than the ultra orthodox care one iota about this protest. The fact that they had to bus in girls and ladies and students shows how desperate they are for a showing.

    themima
    themima
    10 years ago

    It’s the Rebono Shel Olom we have to impress not the media. and when all the fruma come together I hope He is impressed

    tulli
    tulli
    10 years ago

    All you self hating Jews who are posting negatively should have been by the rally just to hear 700,000 people be mekabel ol Malchus shamayim together. Maybe that would bring you all to teshuva.

    Daas-Torah
    Daas-Torah
    10 years ago

    its non sense to see how ppl keep on posting about the positive experience of their kods who went to the IDF and it didn’t effect them.
    as a charedi my personal feelings is also that we should serve in the IDF. but bh we have Gedolei yisroel who are the one who make that kind of decissions and no one cares about anyones personal great IDF experience.
    we have gedolim and they are the ones who will tell us what the right things is to do…

    Daas-Torah
    Daas-Torah
    10 years ago

    and about those ppl who mention about chilul hashem, you are the ones creating the chilul hashem.
    and im proud to be under the daas of the gedolim and not bh under the daas of the chilunim
    and don’t u think that from those hundreds and thousands of ppl aren’t there ppl who also believe that we should join the IDF?
    im pretty sure that there are, but thats why we have bh daas torah and great gedolim and its a kidush hashem how so many ppl follow them even if they have different opinions and feelings.

    10 years ago

    Chazal tell us that when Yaakov was confronted by Aisav, he used three methods to protect himself. He davened, he offered gifts; and he prepared for war. In times of emergency — such as our times — serving in an army is an obligation.

    Daas-Torah
    Daas-Torah
    10 years ago

    i see that many ppl miss the point.
    the sucess of the event has nothing to do about the media. (is something its just the opposite) we jews have one tool which is Tefilah and in this situation whwn such a Tzurah is on klal yisroel and all shtadlunis didn’t help. we uae our old method of gathering together and scream to hashem and show him that we only rely on him and only he can help us in a situation that we are helpless and he will iyh bring us the yeshia from an unexpected way….

    abk1981
    abk1981
    10 years ago

    A real kiddush hashem, a peaceful gathering of frum yidden davening to hashem…now contrast this with a gathering of any other nation or secular where violence is a given.

    Hashem will surely answer us in this last generation.

    zioni
    zioni
    10 years ago

    Wow amazing, what a kidish hashem!!!

    sndinc
    sndinc
    10 years ago

    what a bunch of losers and ignorant people writing on here who cant even put a few words in a grammatical way when they write comments. that shows the caliber of most of the chareidi people here and at this so called rally.

    Disiztru
    Disiztru
    10 years ago

    Instead of military service the Charedim should sit and learn, unarmed, in uniform, in military yeshivot on the Lebanese, Jordan and Syrian borders. This can be their military service.

    5TResident
    Noble Member
    5TResident
    10 years ago

    A massive Chilul Hashem.

    akiva26
    akiva26
    10 years ago

    #1
    You are a looser

    We stand strong even when ppl like you hate and can’t stand the facts

    We will stand strong an win
    The flop is you and ppl like you

    Get a life

    Stickpick
    Stickpick
    10 years ago

    Honestly I don’t get it!!
    If so many bochurim are thrown out or not accepted into yeshivas because of……(non ethical reasons) what then should they do if not join the IDF… Should they get drunk on the streets? party in clubs? play in casinos? Rob civilians or stores? Go crazy with their spare time??? Let them do something concrete with their time….

    Godol-Hador
    Godol-Hador
    10 years ago

    I admit.
    I’m torn
    I agree with so many of the conflicting comments above
    I value Torah Learning.
    I believe the Torah protects Am yisrael the world over especially in EY.
    And I also see a secular Mindset in govt and Army that does not promote morality and is not condusive to jewish Torah values.
    Things are condoned in the Israeli army (hat would be court martial material in the US army.

    On the other hand,
    We all know that a large percentage of all these guys don’t learn full time. They maybe learn a few hours max. like a fine baal haboss in USA and europe.
    I see tremendous waste of talent and time together with a general lack of life skills and purpose of life
    I see a vast welfare state. A reliance of govt money.

    In other words I see a mess.
    And Sorry, I just don’t see clarity from those who are supposed to be the leaders of the generation.

    To me, it seems that the dati Leumi group has it right
    They learn well, they have huge talmidei chachomim.
    They Daven well
    They serve hashem and they serve in the army and get an education.
    And those who are deserving continue in learning full time.

    10 years ago

    what a sigth klal yisroel ascnasim sfardim chesidim lotwakes botom line somrei tora and woring about its fjutur the tora kish achod blev achod necach yisroel lo yesaker ici ejzuvsifar dabri dover vloy jukig one side sinas hadas the other side ahawas h atoire mit abren chzak vamac didon nocach didon yicoch “uni im hasem “