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Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation. REUTERS/Nir Elias Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation. REUTERS/Nir Elias

Jerusalem -  Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.

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Ultra-Orthodox leaders had called on their men, women and children to attend the protest against new legislation ending the wholesale army exemptions granted to seminary students, which is expected to pass in the coming weeks,

The issue is at the heart of an emotional national debate. Most Israeli Jewish men and women are called up for military service when they turn 18, but most ultra-Orthodox Jews, or “Haredim”, a Hebrew term meaning ‘those who tremble before God’, are excused from army service.

Police said hundreds of thousands took part in the prayer. Israeli media estimated that between 250,000 to 400,000 attended.

The ultra-Orthodox demonstration paralyzed parts of Jerusalem, blocked the main entrance to the city and halted public transport as the streets around swelled with streams of men in black hats and coats, the traditional Haredi garb.

Rabbis wailed prayers over loudspeakers as the standing crowds swayed back and forth, repeating a plea to God to stop the law from being passed.

“We want to show that we are united and we want to stop a bad thing that they are trying to force us into. The army is not our way of life. It is not run by our rabbis,” said 18-year-old Mordechai Seltzer.

Haredim say the study of holy scriptures is a foundation of Jewish life, that scholars have a right to devote themselves full time to the tradition, and that army service would deny them fulfillment of that religious edict.

Ultra-Orthodox Jewish women take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel. REUTERS/Darren Whiteside (Ultra-Orthodox Jewish women take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel. REUTERS/Darren Whiteside (

“A CRIME TO STUDY TORAH”

“The (new) law stipulates that a person who studies Torah might end up a criminal. Are we really going to allow it to become a crime to study the Torah?” said Guy, 43.

Seventeen-year-old Israel, a seminary student who came to Israel from the United States, said his community would not give in. “There are so many of us that they cannot fight us. We are not worried. We do not want to fight them, but we are not going to do what they tell us to do,” he said.

Haredim make up about 10 percent of Israel’s 8 million people. They are a fast-growing and relatively poor social group. Most Haredi men are unemployed and live off state benefits, donations and their wives’ often low wages.

The ultra-Orthodox community is resented by many Israelis who accuse the Haredim of burdening the economy and sponging off the state while avoiding the duties that bind others.

Changing the so-called secular-religious status quo in Israel has carried significant political risk in the past for its coalition governments, which have often relied on the support of ultra-Orthodox partners.

But now, for the first time in a decade, Israel’s cabinet has no ultra-Orthodox members and main coalition partners have pressed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to enact reforms under a slogan of “sharing the burden”, so an ultra-Orthodox backlash poses little danger of destabilizing the government.

A parliamentary committee has been formulating the new conscription bill for months. Though its supporters hail it as a historic step, critics say it will only be implemented in four years’ time and by then a new coalition government that could overturn the law would be in power.

“They don’t need us in the army. This is a cultural show of force. The ultra-Orthodox community is growing very fast and the other part of the country is worried. They want to get us into their army. Zionism is not about going into the army,” said Maurice, 19, a seminary student from New York.

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Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: Eli Segal/VINnews.com)
An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy (C) rests during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy (C) rests during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
An ultra-Orthodox Jewish youth holds a sign during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)An ultra-Orthodox Jewish youth holds a sign during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy looks through binoculars during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy looks through binoculars during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men stand on flyers during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men stand on flyers during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men attend a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men attend a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish boys stand on top of a bus stop during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish boys stand on top of a bus stop during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men attend a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men attend a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy holds a sign during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy holds a sign during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish youths dance after a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish youths dance after a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews attend a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jews attend a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men sit in trees during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men sit in trees during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy attends a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy attends a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy sits in a tree during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy sits in a tree during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews attend a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jews attend a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men stand on a rooftop during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men stand on a rooftop during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)
Two Israeli infantry soldiers pass through ultra-Orthodox Jews who gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)Two Israeli infantry soldiers pass through ultra-Orthodox Jews who gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government's army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a mass prayer in protest to the government’s army conscription laws in Jerusalem, 02 March 2014. Police estimated the crowd to some 300,000 ultra-Orthodox turned out for the prayer. (Credit: EPA)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men look down from a rooftop at a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men look down from a rooftop at a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men attend a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men attend a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community's military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel's foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men take part in a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest at a bill that would cut their community’s military exemptions and end a tradition upheld since Israel’s foundation.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men stand around a car during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men stand around a car during a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel.  (Credit: Reuters)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men participate in a rally against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel's secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men participate in a rally against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel’s secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews rally in a massive show of force against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel's secular majority and its devout minority. Hebrew sign reads: "The holy bible will win." (Credit: AP)Ultra-Orthodox Jews rally in a massive show of force against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel’s secular majority and its devout minority. Hebrew sign reads: "The holy bible will win." (Credit: AP)
Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews rally in a massive show of force against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel's secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews rally in a massive show of force against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel’s secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men pray during a rally attended by hundreds of thousands against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel's secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men pray during a rally attended by hundreds of thousands against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel’s secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men dance at a rally in a massive show of force against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel's secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men dance at a rally in a massive show of force against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel’s secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)
Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews rally in a massive show of force against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel's secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews rally in a massive show of force against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel’s secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)
Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews rally in a massive show of force against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel's secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews rally in a massive show of force against plans to force them to serve in the Israeli military, blocking roads and paralyzing the city of Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. The widespread opposition to the compulsory draft poses a challenge to the country, which is grappling with a cultural war over the place of the ultra-Orthodox in Israeli society. With secular Jews required to serve, the issue is one of the most sensitive flashpoints between Israel’s secular majority and its devout minority. (Credit: AP)
An Israeli man holds a prayer shawl with the Star of David on it as he walks during a rally in Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. Israeli police closed the main highway into Jerusalem and the city�s central roads Sunday ahead of a mass rally by ultra-Orthodox Jews protesting government plans to draft them into the army. (Credit: AP)An Israeli man holds a prayer shawl with the Star of David on it as he walks during a rally in Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. Israeli police closed the main highway into Jerusalem and the city�s central roads Sunday ahead of a mass rally by ultra-Orthodox Jews protesting government plans to draft them into the army. (Credit: AP)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a rally in Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. Israeli police closed the main highway into Jerusalem and the city�s central roads Sunday ahead of a mass rally by ultra-Orthodox Jews protesting government plans to draft them into the army. (Credit: AP)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a rally in Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. Israeli police closed the main highway into Jerusalem and the city�s central roads Sunday ahead of a mass rally by ultra-Orthodox Jews protesting government plans to draft them into the army. (Credit: AP)
Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a rally in Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. Israeli police closed the main highway into Jerusalem and the city�s central roads Sunday ahead of a mass rally by ultra-Orthodox Jews protesting government plans to draft them into the army. (Credit: ASSOCIATED PRESS)Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather for a rally in Jerusalem, Sunday, March 2, 2014. Israeli police closed the main highway into Jerusalem and the city�s central roads Sunday ahead of a mass rally by ultra-Orthodox Jews protesting government plans to draft them into the army. (Credit: ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men dance before the start of a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel.  (Credit: Reuters)Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men dance before the start of a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel.  (Credit: Reuters)
An ultra-Orthodox Jewish man looks down from a rooftop at a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel.  (Credit: Reuters)An ultra-Orthodox Jewish man looks down from a rooftop at a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel.  (Credit: Reuters)
An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy looks down from a balcony at a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel.  (Credit: Reuters)An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy looks down from a balcony at a mass prayer in Jerusalem March 2, 2014. Hundreds of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews held a mass prayer in Jerusalem on Sunday in protest against a bill meant to slash military exemptions granted to seminary students, a tradition held since the founding of Israel.  (Credit: Reuters)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Ultra orthodox Jewish women pray during a protest attended by hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews, in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Ultra orthodox Jewish women pray during a protest attended by hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews, in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Ultra orthodox Jewish women pray during a protest attended by hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews, in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Ultra orthodox Jewish women pray during a protest attended by hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews, in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Ultra orthodox Jewish women pray during a protest attended by hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews, in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Ultra orthodox Jewish women pray during a protest attended by hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews, in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest in Jerusalem, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community. March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Ultra orthodox Jews pray as they prepare for a massive protest exptected to be attended by hundreds of thousands from the ultra orthodox Jewish community, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Ultra orthodox Jews pray as they prepare for a massive protest exptected to be attended by hundreds of thousands from the ultra orthodox Jewish community, against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Ultra orthodox Jews prepare for a massive protest exptected to be attended by hundreds of thousands from the ultra orthodox Jewish community, against plans to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Ultra orthodox Jews prepare for a massive protest exptected to be attended by hundreds of thousands from the ultra orthodox Jewish community, against plans to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)
Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a  massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)Hundreds of thousands of Ultra orthodox Jews attend a massive protest against a proposed plan formed by the Israeli parliament, to introduce compulsory military service to the Haredi (ultra orthodox) community, in Jerusalem on March 02, 2014. (Credit: Flash90)

 



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 Mar 02, 2014 at 10:22 AM Anonymous Says:

What a flop!

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 10:34 AM Anonymous Says:

When the arabs conquer Israel, let's see how much you will leegdol batorah.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 10:34 AM RamapoJew Says:

Look at all the women protesting. Me thinks they want their husbands to get jobs.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 10:37 AM LionofZion Says:

In Yeshiva they told us that if there was a moment that no one was learning Torah the world would cease to exist. It is a good thing Rabbi Druckman stayed back and is saving the world.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 10:38 AM Reuvan_Nuchem Says:

B"H I live in America. The torah was giving on Har Sinai for America.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 11:01 AM ALTERG Says:

What a kiddus hasham,
מי כעמך ישראל
בדרך התורה נלך, לקדש שם שמים
Its a clear massage: jews will NOT go serve in the tumna IDF its against out torha to have a own jewish land

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 11:15 AM berelw Says:

mass chilul hashem....protest the hand that protects you....of course everything you do is backwards....thats why very little people have respect for charaidim...its a shame as it should be reverse, perople should respect charadiim...but everything we do lacks menchlichkeit, class, respect, manners. to bad it didnt hail.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 11:16 AM TexasJew Says:

I guess the crowd was very small and they had no one to hold all the signs.
Let's hope they clean up before they leave. Spending some time in the army would fix this problem.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 11:16 AM Right613 Says:

so this is what it has come to? or is this just the beginning of the end?

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 11:26 AM schmaltzy Says:

Very impressive. Now the questions are: Are all these "hundreds of thousands" of men really learning diligently enough to warrant their exemption from the army? Doubtful. Now that we see that "hundreds of thousands" od chareidi men are not serving, think about how unfair the burden is to those that have to serve longer because of their non participation.
Finally when in history did we ever see an entire segment of klal yisroel not serving the army, besides shevet Levi? Even shevet Yissochar which was known for its learning Torah served in the army!
The biggest question is: Is this refusal to serve in the army really due to the desire to learn and offer a spiritual protection as is claimed, or is it just another manifestation of a hatred of Zionism ? If so, since when is that a patur ? Be honest in answering that question.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 11:31 AM alterknaker Says:

As long as there will be no violence why not? Its a democracy let them protest, but we already know these SO CALLED YESHIVA BOYS from Jerusalem,

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 11:39 AM Shloimo Says:

Such huge crowd and they all want to have other people's children protecting them.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 11:40 AM MyComment Says:

Why does this remind me of the story of the meraglim. When they masses were crying (eg protesting) going into the Land of Israel. I pray to the Almighty, that we don't have to suffer like that generation before being allowed to enter the land given to our forefathers and all the repercussions even after enter the land. Its a sad day indeed.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 11:41 AM Anonymous Says:

My simple solution.
Follow what Satmar Rebbe zl said.
1. All frum get out of the kenesset let it be like the USA all the politicians running for office will come try get our votes, we will able to get everything from them. if not you just vote them out. It will be the biggest bloc vote. They will have to accommodate us.

2. Every avriech over 25 years needs to get a job only those select few that really want to become gedolim. You can't ask a secular state to cover for torah learning. And how can you learn Torah with money coming from a trief state.
3. By doing number 2. All mosdos will be able to support themself parents will pay tuition make donations and your kids will learn Torah with kosher money.
4. The government will never ask again for the draft. 1. We contribute to society and not a burden. 2. We can always vote out the mk's who vote against us.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 11:55 AM Mark Levin Says:

They are a typical backward socialist banana republic.

All the farshultina sonay Yisroel socialist medina folks have to do is allow people to work and make an honest living despite not serving on their heyliga idf.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:09 PM OYVY2 Says:

Reply to #6  
ALTERG Says:

What a kiddus hasham,
מי כעמך ישראל
בדרך התורה נלך, לקדש שם שמים
Its a clear massage: jews will NOT go serve in the tumna IDF its against out torha to have a own jewish land

If you believe that the IDF is "tumma" in your words, then you let that "tumma" protect you to go about the country to go daven to go learn, assuming you do both, and allow that the "tumma" of IDF sacrifices their children, fathers. brothers for you. I think it's time you moved somewhere else and not let this"tumma" touch you, especially when it comes to the money that you get from the government

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:10 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
schmaltzy Says:

Very impressive. Now the questions are: Are all these "hundreds of thousands" of men really learning diligently enough to warrant their exemption from the army? Doubtful. Now that we see that "hundreds of thousands" od chareidi men are not serving, think about how unfair the burden is to those that have to serve longer because of their non participation.
Finally when in history did we ever see an entire segment of klal yisroel not serving the army, besides shevet Levi? Even shevet Yissochar which was known for its learning Torah served in the army!
The biggest question is: Is this refusal to serve in the army really due to the desire to learn and offer a spiritual protection as is claimed, or is it just another manifestation of a hatred of Zionism ? If so, since when is that a patur ? Be honest in answering that question.

If you have to ask you obviously don't know. Enjoy your agenda.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:10 PM OscarMadison Says:

This disgraceful event got zero coverage in the major American news outlets.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:11 PM ontime Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

What a flop!

What a fool you are, a flop? Really? You're a flop & a big one. This is the biggest kiddush hashem since matan toira on har sinai. אשריכם בני ארץ ישראל

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:12 PM Anonymous Says:

It's not 18th Century Hungary, where you lived in a Shetl and could live on potatoes and borscht. Even, then what did that lifestyle lead up to? The Shoah, because Yidden could not defend themselves. Yes, it would be nice to just learn, and never work, but is it not unfair to have others that you do not respect support and protect you? You don't want to go into the army, ok, clean out bed pans in a hospital, feed the retarded, DO SOMETHING or leave.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:17 PM Anonymous Says:

Nebech, nebech, you have to feel sorry for these people.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:20 PM pickledherring Says:

Sort of lie "hell no....we won't go". This not a matter of studying ancient manuscripts they just dont wanna get killed in action. One glorified draft dodging yeshiva with one big difference. This is not Viet Nam or Korea take take take. Watch out Rockland county Orange you are next

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:20 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
Right613 Says:

so this is what it has come to? or is this just the beginning of the end?

It's the beginning of the end.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:21 PM sndinc Says:

what a chilul hashem if only 75% of the participants worked or shared the military burden the country would look so much different . This proves Lapid as right and shows how bankrupt the yeshiva and chareidi world is in israel today. shame on them! Rav Druckman and others are so right

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:22 PM Chachom Says:

Reply to #14  
Anonymous Says:

My simple solution.
Follow what Satmar Rebbe zl said.
1. All frum get out of the kenesset let it be like the USA all the politicians running for office will come try get our votes, we will able to get everything from them. if not you just vote them out. It will be the biggest bloc vote. They will have to accommodate us.

2. Every avriech over 25 years needs to get a job only those select few that really want to become gedolim. You can't ask a secular state to cover for torah learning. And how can you learn Torah with money coming from a trief state.
3. By doing number 2. All mosdos will be able to support themself parents will pay tuition make donations and your kids will learn Torah with kosher money.
4. The government will never ask again for the draft. 1. We contribute to society and not a burden. 2. We can always vote out the mk's who vote against us.

"Every avriech over 25 years needs to get a job only those select few that really want to become gedolim"

Aha...and who exactly will judge who has the potential and desire? in any case, your solution sounds like you want the entire orthodox community to look like Satmar, and that, in my humble, is a major downgrade to what the orthodox community has achieved all these years in Isreal. Yes, the non-kosher treif money has built a tremendous atmosphere of Torah thru out Israel.
Never was there a bigger supporter of Torah than the state of Isreal. And that was no doubt the best investment that protected Israel through out the years.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:28 PM Former brooklynite Says:

Yeah, yeah ,yeah! What a disgrace! Excuse me, but my sons(who have peyos) all served in the army and they came home just fine, B"H. One slightly wounded. My girls did their national government services doing chesed work in a nursing home and in a facility for special needs children. They all came out better for the experience. They all went on to work part time and learn part time. The girls all married the same kinds of young men as their brothers.

Next, what right did they have to block all this traffic? What if an ambulance had to get through and someone in there was critical? If that person died as a result, what would they say? " Uhm, sorry"

Third, the streets were left in disgusting condition! They all use the streets as heir personal garbage pail, like in Geula. I know, because I live there and see the street garbage everyday. Why didn't they make sure they had a cleanup crew after? They all go home and shalom ol Yisroel. Let someone do the dirty work. No wonder they can't stand the sight of us.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:28 PM Anonymous Says:

1.When Belz leaves Israel, whom are they leaving in Israel to topple R' Moshe's matzeiva at the yurzeit?
2. The houses in the new belz shtetel being built in Lakewood is really being prepared when rebbe moves here. The secret is now out

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:32 PM sndinc Says:

shame on them let them go to work instead of mooching off the govt and share the burden as others do

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:33 PM Anonymous Says:

No jew should join an atheistic army that comes in ninth in being gay friendly out of 103 countries. Even America came in number 40. Would you trust your kinderlech with such a tuma army.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:33 PM Bigboy Says:

All those negative comments...

B"H what a beautiful Kiddush Hashem to see so many people come together in a respectful atmosphere. The beauty of Judaism. The achdus is amazing!

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:37 PM common-sense Says:

Reply to #5  
Reuvan_Nuchem Says:

B"H I live in America. The torah was giving on Har Sinai for America.

This statement is pure Apikursis.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:39 PM emas Says:

I was born in ארץ ישראל not as u call Israel left when I was 5 came to the u.s. went back to ישיבה & ב"ה did not have a Israeli passport so I could stayif not I have a problem with the רשעים, in the u.s.by the v.war when u were exzmapd, the isreli govermthe draft was in force if u got a latter from a ישבה u did not have to

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
schmaltzy Says:

Very impressive. Now the questions are: Are all these "hundreds of thousands" of men really learning diligently enough to warrant their exemption from the army? Doubtful. Now that we see that "hundreds of thousands" od chareidi men are not serving, think about how unfair the burden is to those that have to serve longer because of their non participation.
Finally when in history did we ever see an entire segment of klal yisroel not serving the army, besides shevet Levi? Even shevet Yissochar which was known for its learning Torah served in the army!
The biggest question is: Is this refusal to serve in the army really due to the desire to learn and offer a spiritual protection as is claimed, or is it just another manifestation of a hatred of Zionism ? If so, since when is that a patur ? Be honest in answering that question.

Very good point. I do not want to question Daas Torah. I want to understand it. Never in Jewish history were Yeshiva boys exempt from military service. They were not even exempt and nobody claimed an exemption for them when the Kings of Eretz Yisroel were Reshoim Gemurim, such as Achov, Menashe, etc.
Furthermore, the Torah tells us who is exempt from military service. Yeshiva boys are not included among those exempt. On the contrary, one of the exemptions is for Yorei V'Rach Halevov. Chazal tells us that this refers to those who have Aveiros. They are sent home from the battlefield, leaving only the Yerei Shomayim and Yeshiva boys.
Please explain to me why thousands of years of Jewish history, and the Torah's exemptions, are being thrown out.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:50 PM Maven Says:

Let the message be clear: A frum yid does not belong in the Israeli army it doesn't matter if he learns all day or if he sleeps all day.
Bennet and Lipman are not the example of a frum yid.
The whole existence of a Jewish state before the coming of Moshiach is a rebellion against hashem .

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:53 PM My First Hand two cents! Says:

Can you realy compare the army in the times of the Bais Hamikdosh to the Tzahal of today?
I spent some time in Nachal Charaidi on temporary program to recrute american yeshiva boys. Small example: My non frum commander woke us up for shul shabbos morning, made sure noone was talking durring davvening as per army regulations then he went outside the shul to have a cigeratte as he was Non Charaidi and was alloud (as per army regulations), music coming from the Commander barracks on shabbos, etc.!

Don't be fooled. A great deal of the people trying to enforce this law hate the Charaidim and want them to equalise = secularise. I agree with most here that if a yeshiva boy is not learning should get a job or possibly military or national service that wont inffluence his faith! But don't fall for the innocent cry of equality and don't dissregard our Torah scholars who have first hand knowledge of the issues and are all saying this is negative decree on all frum people living in Israel. I think a sulotion could be worked out, so long as there is a solution based on mutual understanding and respect and not on rabid hatred!

My first hand two cents.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 12:57 PM chaim Says:

This was one of the most awesome events I've ever attended.
It was beautifly orgabized and respectful. was

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 01:05 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

What a flop!

You call that a flop? what a joke you are.You just can't stand it that thousands poured into the streets to stand up for Torah. POOR YOU.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 01:06 PM Anonymous Says:

Nebech, they don't hold mass protests and read Tehilim against Iran's nuclear program, which can destroy all of them in one minute. Very sad, you have to feel sorry for them.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 01:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
berelw Says:

mass chilul hashem....protest the hand that protects you....of course everything you do is backwards....thats why very little people have respect for charaidim...its a shame as it should be reverse, perople should respect charadiim...but everything we do lacks menchlichkeit, class, respect, manners. to bad it didnt hail.

The hands that protect you????? that's your problem, you think krim..The hands that protect you are not the IDF...it is HKBH that protects you...you fool. Hashem can send a little fly, as they say and save the world. He doesn't need the idf to do his job. All we have to do is learn Torah and connect to Hashem and he will give us everything we ever needed or wanted. You are the one that is confused. Yidden have always protested...that does not mean they have no class, menchlichkeit etc. I guess you believe that you are more "Oisgearbet" than the gedolim who asked for this. Well, well, you are quite backwards in your thinking. In any case, no one cares what "You" have to say. We care about what the Torah has to say. So enjoy the security you feel from your army. We will enjoy the security we feel from Hashem protecting us.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 01:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #19  
ontime Says:

What a fool you are, a flop? Really? You're a flop & a big one. This is the biggest kiddush hashem since matan toira on har sinai. אשריכם בני ארץ ישראל

I agree whole heartily with number 1. This was a MAJOR flop, completely ignored by the USA and world media. Impressed no one, but tinker bells like you who make an insane comment comparing this Chilul Hashem to Matan Torah. Refuam shelemah to you.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 01:12 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
Shloimo Says:

Such huge crowd and they all want to have other people's children protecting them.

No..not quite, no one asked you to serve. We count on HkBH and the Torah to protect us...not the idf

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 01:15 PM bubii Says:

Reply to #7  
berelw Says:

mass chilul hashem....protest the hand that protects you....of course everything you do is backwards....thats why very little people have respect for charaidim...its a shame as it should be reverse, perople should respect charadiim...but everything we do lacks menchlichkeit, class, respect, manners. to bad it didnt hail.

You are right on if one gives respect he will get respect kol hakavod to you.,this is not the way to behave towards those that make your life bearable.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 01:35 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
ALTERG Says:

What a kiddus hasham,
מי כעמך ישראל
בדרך התורה נלך, לקדש שם שמים
Its a clear massage: jews will NOT go serve in the tumna IDF its against out torha to have a own jewish land

Cut the garbage. It has nothing to do with the army. These guys just don't want to work period. I am will to bet you MR AlterG that even though under the new law those currently over 22 can work with no army service very few will actually become accountants. And the proof is vadas Tal. Note it is not nachal charedi which was for unstable 18 year olds.. Vadas Tal allowed older mature adults to do some national service while sleeping at home every night for three months and then work. Certanly not any worse than sitting in the knesset.Yet R Aron Leib was belittled for that plan. Why because these guys just don't want to work. The army thing is pure baloney.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 01:36 PM Alan Says:

Reply to #30  
Bigboy Says:

All those negative comments...

B"H what a beautiful Kiddush Hashem to see so many people come together in a respectful atmosphere. The beauty of Judaism. The achdus is amazing!

I agree whole heartedly!

So proud to be a frum Jew!

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 01:38 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #25  
Chachom Says:

"Every avriech over 25 years needs to get a job only those select few that really want to become gedolim"

Aha...and who exactly will judge who has the potential and desire? in any case, your solution sounds like you want the entire orthodox community to look like Satmar, and that, in my humble, is a major downgrade to what the orthodox community has achieved all these years in Isreal. Yes, the non-kosher treif money has built a tremendous atmosphere of Torah thru out Israel.
Never was there a bigger supporter of Torah than the state of Isreal. And that was no doubt the best investment that protected Israel through out the years.

Why can't Isreal get the same protection if half these yungerlit would work during the day and harva in bies mederesh during the other times of the day. Are us Americans chopped meat? in the eyes of the eibshter bal habtim moser nefesh for torah don't protect israel too?

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 01:53 PM common-sense Says:

Reply to #34  
Maven Says:

Let the message be clear: A frum yid does not belong in the Israeli army it doesn't matter if he learns all day or if he sleeps all day.
Bennet and Lipman are not the example of a frum yid.
The whole existence of a Jewish state before the coming of Moshiach is a rebellion against hashem .

Give me a Mekor (a source) in Chazal that says that the existence of a Jewish State before Moshiach comes is a rebellion against Hashem. You will not be able to give me a Mekor because it does not exist.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 02:05 PM Deveee Says:

What an amazing kiddush hashem.
The mizrachists of today are the reform of yesteryear.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 02:11 PM RebKlemson Says:

i think cleanup is on the medina! share the sanitation burden! truth is if all of them spent the day learning it would not only be more productive but more protection as they keep promising. but no, they need action in their life and this is the only way to get it.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 02:12 PM Yossel Says:

The solution is quite simple, really. Let the Haredi communities form an autonomous province of their own. They should get no funding from the medina. No roads, no water, no electricity, no hospitals , not even garbage removal. Then they can live however they please.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 02:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

The hands that protect you????? that's your problem, you think krim..The hands that protect you are not the IDF...it is HKBH that protects you...you fool. Hashem can send a little fly, as they say and save the world. He doesn't need the idf to do his job. All we have to do is learn Torah and connect to Hashem and he will give us everything we ever needed or wanted. You are the one that is confused. Yidden have always protested...that does not mean they have no class, menchlichkeit etc. I guess you believe that you are more "Oisgearbet" than the gedolim who asked for this. Well, well, you are quite backwards in your thinking. In any case, no one cares what "You" have to say. We care about what the Torah has to say. So enjoy the security you feel from your army. We will enjoy the security we feel from Hashem protecting us.

According to you, Eretz Yisroel should never have had an army. But it has had an army, since Yehoshua.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 02:37 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
OscarMadison Says:

This disgraceful event got zero coverage in the major American news outlets.

Who needs american news outlets to cover it? Anything smarter you have to say?
Or is this the best you can come up with.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 02:50 PM themima Says:

Reading these posts I now understand shy the Bais Hamikdosh was destroyed. We need to cry over the matzav of all jews not spew hatred

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 02:50 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
OscarMadison Says:

This disgraceful event got zero coverage in the major American news outlets.

All the comments here are absurd. There will always be a division in Israel, the secular against the frum...and the zionist frum against the orthodox frum. case closed. Everyone is entitled to his or her feelings, and spitting loshon hara back and forth will not change a thing. Throughout the course of history, everyone interpreted things from their own perspective, but b'h we have gedolim to follow and for those that rely on their "own" 'FEELINGS'...well, what is there to say. There is a bigger chillul Hashem to get on this site and curse out your own brothers and sisters than holding a protest, which, contrary to your personal beliefs, is advocated for by holier people than yourself. Pure and simple.Then again, you will never stop the haters from making sure their opinion is out there...so let it be. You are responsible for your own aveiros....and chillul Hashem.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 02:59 PM ontime Says:

Reply to #40  
Anonymous Says:

I agree whole heartily with number 1. This was a MAJOR flop, completely ignored by the USA and world media. Impressed no one, but tinker bells like you who make an insane comment comparing this Chilul Hashem to Matan Torah. Refuam shelemah to you.

Major flop.? You need a medic on a cod 1. Seriously. The biggest event in Israel since for ever & this is a flop. You're comments are insane.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:01 PM Anonymous Says:

The world's attention is now focused on UKRAINE AND RUSSIA. No one, other than the ultra orthodox care one iota about this protest. The fact that they had to bus in girls and ladies and students shows how desperate they are for a showing.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:02 PM themima Says:

It's the Rebono Shel Olom we have to impress not the media. and when all the fruma come together I hope He is impressed

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:07 PM berelw Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

The hands that protect you????? that's your problem, you think krim..The hands that protect you are not the IDF...it is HKBH that protects you...you fool. Hashem can send a little fly, as they say and save the world. He doesn't need the idf to do his job. All we have to do is learn Torah and connect to Hashem and he will give us everything we ever needed or wanted. You are the one that is confused. Yidden have always protested...that does not mean they have no class, menchlichkeit etc. I guess you believe that you are more "Oisgearbet" than the gedolim who asked for this. Well, well, you are quite backwards in your thinking. In any case, no one cares what "You" have to say. We care about what the Torah has to say. So enjoy the security you feel from your army. We will enjoy the security we feel from Hashem protecting us.

di oibershter helps those whom help themselves...it seems my parents and grandparents family and yours were helped through learning torah in Europe during the holocaust thats why the tzadikim were murdered in the holocaust. get real torah is important and the most important but what is going on is a bunch of rubbish...

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:09 PM Sebastian Says:

Reply to #41  
Anonymous Says:

No..not quite, no one asked you to serve. We count on HkBH and the Torah to protect us...not the idf

So why not depend on HKBH to protect you from the draft.

Why can they leave the Bais Medrash for this, but not to serve in the IDF. Why not learn and have emunah that Hashem will fix it so they do not have to serve.

Apparently they have "bitachon" on a convenience basis. Phony behavior.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:09 PM hashomer Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

The hands that protect you????? that's your problem, you think krim..The hands that protect you are not the IDF...it is HKBH that protects you...you fool. Hashem can send a little fly, as they say and save the world. He doesn't need the idf to do his job. All we have to do is learn Torah and connect to Hashem and he will give us everything we ever needed or wanted. You are the one that is confused. Yidden have always protested...that does not mean they have no class, menchlichkeit etc. I guess you believe that you are more "Oisgearbet" than the gedolim who asked for this. Well, well, you are quite backwards in your thinking. In any case, no one cares what "You" have to say. We care about what the Torah has to say. So enjoy the security you feel from your army. We will enjoy the security we feel from Hashem protecting us.

If HaShem can send a fly, we know he sent the IDF to protect the State he allowed us to create in His name, so we don't have to be homeless for another 2000 years. HaShem loves daveners, but he also loves his IDF, or else there wouldn't be one that can win wars.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:10 PM akiva26 Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

What a flop!

Your a big looser
get a life

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:24 PM tulli Says:

All you self hating Jews who are posting negatively should have been by the rally just to hear 700,000 people be mekabel ol Malchus shamayim together. Maybe that would bring you all to teshuva.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:36 PM Daas-Torah Says:

its non sense to see how ppl keep on posting about the positive experience of their kods who went to the IDF and it didn't effect them.
as a charedi my personal feelings is also that we should serve in the IDF. but bh we have Gedolei yisroel who are the one who make that kind of decissions and no one cares about anyones personal great IDF experience.
we have gedolim and they are the ones who will tell us what the right things is to do...

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:41 PM Mark Levin Says:

Reply to #40  
Anonymous Says:

I agree whole heartily with number 1. This was a MAJOR flop, completely ignored by the USA and world media. Impressed no one, but tinker bells like you who make an insane comment comparing this Chilul Hashem to Matan Torah. Refuam shelemah to you.

Who cares about usa media? They have to report on the latest way obuma is messing up the country? This works fine for the internal SONAY TORAH UMITZVOS to see that no one is backing down.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:42 PM Daas-Torah Says:

and about those ppl who mention about chilul hashem, you are the ones creating the chilul hashem.
and im proud to be under the daas of the gedolim and not bh under the daas of the chilunim
and don't u think that from those hundreds and thousands of ppl aren't there ppl who also believe that we should join the IDF?
im pretty sure that there are, but thats why we have bh daas torah and great gedolim and its a kidush hashem how so many ppl follow them even if they have different opinions and feelings.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:42 PM Pops Says:

Chazal tell us that when Yaakov was confronted by Aisav, he used three methods to protect himself. He davened, he offered gifts; and he prepared for war. In times of emergency -- such as our times -- serving in an army is an obligation.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:48 PM Daas-Torah Says:

i see that many ppl miss the point.
the sucess of the event has nothing to do about the media. (is something its just the opposite) we jews have one tool which is Tefilah and in this situation whwn such a Tzurah is on klal yisroel and all shtadlunis didn't help. we uae our old method of gathering together and scream to hashem and show him that we only rely on him and only he can help us in a situation that we are helpless and he will iyh bring us the yeshia from an unexpected way....

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:50 PM abk1981 Says:

A real kiddush hashem, a peaceful gathering of frum yidden davening to hashem...now contrast this with a gathering of any other nation or secular where violence is a given.

Hashem will surely answer us in this last generation.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:52 PM zioni Says:

Wow amazing, what a kidish hashem!!!

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:55 PM Chelmite Says:

Reply to #5  
Reuvan_Nuchem Says:

B"H I live in America. The torah was giving on Har Sinai for America.

I presume you are already drunk in honor of Purim
because otherwise what you say isnt funny!

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 03:59 PM sndinc Says:

what a bunch of losers and ignorant people writing on here who cant even put a few words in a grammatical way when they write comments. that shows the caliber of most of the chareidi people here and at this so called rally.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 04:07 PM Disiztru Says:

Instead of military service the Charedim should sit and learn, unarmed, in uniform, in military yeshivot on the Lebanese, Jordan and Syrian borders. This can be their military service.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 04:13 PM 5TResident Says:

A massive Chilul Hashem.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 04:21 PM akiva26 Says:

#1
You are a looser

We stand strong even when ppl like you hate and can't stand the facts

We will stand strong an win
The flop is you and ppl like you

Get a life

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 04:32 PM Anonymous Says:

Honestly I don't get it!!
If so many bochurim are thrown out or not accepted into yeshivas because of......(non ethical reasons) what then should they do if not join the IDF... Should they get drunk on the streets? party in clubs? play in casinos? Rob civilians or stores? Go crazy with their spare time??? Let them do something concrete with their time....

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 04:42 PM anonymous Says:

Reply to #73  
akiva26 Says:

#1
You are a looser

We stand strong even when ppl like you hate and can't stand the facts

We will stand strong an win
The flop is you and ppl like you

Get a life

You stay strong in words and bluff. You are protected by the IDF. If you are such a tzaddik , G'd guides the world and the IDF is successful. You are too scared to prorect anyone.;

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 04:48 PM UriLevi Says:

Reply to #29  
Anonymous Says:

No jew should join an atheistic army that comes in ninth in being gay friendly out of 103 countries. Even America came in number 40. Would you trust your kinderlech with such a tuma army.

Actually all Jews should join the I.D.F - if able - because it is one of the most moral & ethical armies in the world. However, I understand the haters' like the intelligent one i"m responding to. When potential soldiers hate a group within that army - the morale and the army itself will simply not be effective. However, B'H, most ehrliche Chareidi Jews are not haters and if the Nachal Chareidi programs were increased and tweaked just right - { which within this current bill - they would be improved upon (Halachically & Logistically) and also the numbers of Nachal Chareidi programs would increase dramatically} - then the transition to army service can go smoother but more time and patience from the Chiloni world is needed as well

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 04:59 PM Godol-Hador Says:

I admit.
I'm torn
I agree with so many of the conflicting comments above
I value Torah Learning.
I believe the Torah protects Am yisrael the world over especially in EY.
And I also see a secular Mindset in govt and Army that does not promote morality and is not condusive to jewish Torah values.
Things are condoned in the Israeli army (hat would be court martial material in the US army.

On the other hand,
We all know that a large percentage of all these guys don't learn full time. They maybe learn a few hours max. like a fine baal haboss in USA and europe.
I see tremendous waste of talent and time together with a general lack of life skills and purpose of life
I see a vast welfare state. A reliance of govt money.

In other words I see a mess.
And Sorry, I just don't see clarity from those who are supposed to be the leaders of the generation.

To me, it seems that the dati Leumi group has it right
They learn well, they have huge talmidei chachomim.
They Daven well
They serve hashem and they serve in the army and get an education.
And those who are deserving continue in learning full time.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:02 PM hmmmm Says:

Reply to #35  
My First Hand two cents! Says:

Can you realy compare the army in the times of the Bais Hamikdosh to the Tzahal of today?
I spent some time in Nachal Charaidi on temporary program to recrute american yeshiva boys. Small example: My non frum commander woke us up for shul shabbos morning, made sure noone was talking durring davvening as per army regulations then he went outside the shul to have a cigeratte as he was Non Charaidi and was alloud (as per army regulations), music coming from the Commander barracks on shabbos, etc.!

Don't be fooled. A great deal of the people trying to enforce this law hate the Charaidim and want them to equalise = secularise. I agree with most here that if a yeshiva boy is not learning should get a job or possibly military or national service that wont inffluence his faith! But don't fall for the innocent cry of equality and don't dissregard our Torah scholars who have first hand knowledge of the issues and are all saying this is negative decree on all frum people living in Israel. I think a sulotion could be worked out, so long as there is a solution based on mutual understanding and respect and not on rabid hatred!

My first hand two cents.

VIN. This was a very important post. !! How can it be highlighted ??

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:03 PM junky Says:

Reply to #7  
berelw Says:

mass chilul hashem....protest the hand that protects you....of course everything you do is backwards....thats why very little people have respect for charaidim...its a shame as it should be reverse, perople should respect charadiim...but everything we do lacks menchlichkeit, class, respect, manners. to bad it didnt hail.

it is comments like yours that makes it a chilul Hashem

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:06 PM Sociologist Says:

Reply to #71  
Disiztru Says:

Instead of military service the Charedim should sit and learn, unarmed, in uniform, in military yeshivot on the Lebanese, Jordan and Syrian borders. This can be their military service.

Great idea!

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
schmaltzy Says:

Very impressive. Now the questions are: Are all these "hundreds of thousands" of men really learning diligently enough to warrant their exemption from the army? Doubtful. Now that we see that "hundreds of thousands" od chareidi men are not serving, think about how unfair the burden is to those that have to serve longer because of their non participation.
Finally when in history did we ever see an entire segment of klal yisroel not serving the army, besides shevet Levi? Even shevet Yissochar which was known for its learning Torah served in the army!
The biggest question is: Is this refusal to serve in the army really due to the desire to learn and offer a spiritual protection as is claimed, or is it just another manifestation of a hatred of Zionism ? If so, since when is that a patur ? Be honest in answering that question.

Get your facts straight before doing all these non sense comparisons, There is no shortage in the army and no one is serving longer.
How may you dare compare todays times to the Shevet Levi exemption

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:12 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
sndinc Says:

what a chilul hashem if only 75% of the participants worked or shared the military burden the country would look so much different . This proves Lapid as right and shows how bankrupt the yeshiva and chareidi world is in israel today. shame on them! Rav Druckman and others are so right

The Shame is on you, that you are not even trying to understand the pain and agony of all those people

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:32 PM bitochen Says:

what a sigth klal yisroel ascnasim sfardim chesidim lotwakes botom line somrei tora and woring about its fjutur the tora kish achod blev achod necach yisroel lo yesaker ici ejzuvsifar dabri dover vloy jukig one side sinas hadas the other side ahawas h atoire mit abren chzak vamac didon nocach didon yicoch "uni im hasem "

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:38 PM Maven Says:

Reply to #46  
common-sense Says:

Give me a Mekor (a source) in Chazal that says that the existence of a Jewish State before Moshiach comes is a rebellion against Hashem. You will not be able to give me a Mekor because it does not exist.

The Mekor is very simple if you really open your eyes:
We were given the Holy Land by G-d in order to be able to study and practice the Torah without disturbance and to attain levels of holiness difficult to attain outside of the Holy Land. We abused the privilege and we were expelled. That is exactly what all Jews say in their prayers on every Jewish festival, "Umipnay chatoenu golinu mayartsaynu" - "Because of our sins we were expelled from our land".

We have been forsworn by G-d "not to enter the Holy Land as a body before the predestined time", "not to rebel against the nations", to be loyal citizens, not to do anything against the will of any nation or its honour, not to seek vengeance, discord, restitution or compensation; "not to leave exile ahead of time." On the contrary; we have to be humble and accept the yoke of exile. To violate the oaths would result in "your flesh will be made prey as the deer and the antelope in the forest," and the redemption will be delayed.

Contiued:......

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:39 PM Maven Says:

Reply to #46  
common-sense Says:

Give me a Mekor (a source) in Chazal that says that the existence of a Jewish State before Moshiach comes is a rebellion against Hashem. You will not be able to give me a Mekor because it does not exist.

Contiued.....
To violate the oaths is not only a sin, it is a heresy because it is against the fundamentals of our Belief. Only through complete repentance will the Almighty alone, without any human effort or intervention, redeem us from exile. This will be after G-d will send the prophet Elijah and Moshiach who will induce all Jews to complete repentance. At that time there will be universal peace.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:46 PM Harpo Marx Says:

Reply to #71  
Disiztru Says:

Instead of military service the Charedim should sit and learn, unarmed, in uniform, in military yeshivot on the Lebanese, Jordan and Syrian borders. This can be their military service.

Right, and instead of being in the army the soldiers can be in black jackets and hats and learn in Yeshivos in Yirusholyim and Tzifas, Chevron etc.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:50 PM Anonymous Says:

Million Man March was initiated by our very good friend and local Haman Louis Farakhan. That alone speaks for itself.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:51 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #73  
akiva26 Says:

#1
You are a looser

We stand strong even when ppl like you hate and can't stand the facts

We will stand strong an win
The flop is you and ppl like you

Get a life

Well you sure didn't attend school with secular studies and look towards a career. Why would he be a looser rather than a loser? Your point reversed itself and is now looking at you full in the face. Now apologize like a gentleman.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:54 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #65  
Pops Says:

Chazal tell us that when Yaakov was confronted by Aisav, he used three methods to protect himself. He davened, he offered gifts; and he prepared for war. In times of emergency -- such as our times -- serving in an army is an obligation.

Right and if the army offers Nachal Charedi why in the world can't these leeches join? There are few yechidim who can honestly say they learn all day and those ought to be supported by those who should protect the country and go to work afterwards. That would be too honest though.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #49  
Yossel Says:

The solution is quite simple, really. Let the Haredi communities form an autonomous province of their own. They should get no funding from the medina. No roads, no water, no electricity, no hospitals , not even garbage removal. Then they can live however they please.

Exactly!! I need to pay taxes here in order to receive any services and that's the way it's been since the dawn of time.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 05:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #26  
Former brooklynite Says:

Yeah, yeah ,yeah! What a disgrace! Excuse me, but my sons(who have peyos) all served in the army and they came home just fine, B"H. One slightly wounded. My girls did their national government services doing chesed work in a nursing home and in a facility for special needs children. They all came out better for the experience. They all went on to work part time and learn part time. The girls all married the same kinds of young men as their brothers.

Next, what right did they have to block all this traffic? What if an ambulance had to get through and someone in there was critical? If that person died as a result, what would they say? " Uhm, sorry"

Third, the streets were left in disgusting condition! They all use the streets as heir personal garbage pail, like in Geula. I know, because I live there and see the street garbage everyday. Why didn't they make sure they had a cleanup crew after? They all go home and shalom ol Yisroel. Let someone do the dirty work. No wonder they can't stand the sight of us.

You are a hero and so are your children~!!!!! Thanks for protecting the lazy bums who wouldn't lift a finger and thanks for putting your lives on the line. May your be gebentched!!!!!!!!

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 06:47 PM UriLevi Says:

Reply to #47  
Deveee Says:

What an amazing kiddush hashem.
The mizrachists of today are the reform of yesteryear.

Rabbi Herschel Schachter (Rosh Yeshivah, RIETS), Rabbi Yehoshua Shapira, Rosh Yeshivah- Ramat Gan Yeshiva, Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu Chief Rabbi of Tzfat, Rav Elyakim Levanon, A rosh yeshiva and the rav of the Shomron Regional Council, - Rav Aharon Lichtenstein, R'Y Gush Etzyon.& many many more. Please Mr Deveee - If you were an Ish Emes - you would have no problems going up to these learned Rabbonim & say they are reformists - otherwise you know NOT what you say. As Rabbi Avihai Ronsky, former IDF Chief Rabbi and head of the Itamar Hesder yeshiva stated yesterday. "The hareidi campaign against the draft law was barely a step below incitement, he added. “Anyone who is familiar with the law knows that it does not prevent serious students from learning Torah. The required numbers of draftees from the hareidi community could easily be supplied from the thousands who roam the streets of Bnei Brak day and night. There is no need to enter yeshivas to draft anyone,” he said, adding that “the saddest thing is that this protest is likely to weaken the positive trend in which Torah was being more accepted in daily life in Israel"

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 06:57 PM Sociologist Says:

Reply to #26  
Former brooklynite Says:

Yeah, yeah ,yeah! What a disgrace! Excuse me, but my sons(who have peyos) all served in the army and they came home just fine, B"H. One slightly wounded. My girls did their national government services doing chesed work in a nursing home and in a facility for special needs children. They all came out better for the experience. They all went on to work part time and learn part time. The girls all married the same kinds of young men as their brothers.

Next, what right did they have to block all this traffic? What if an ambulance had to get through and someone in there was critical? If that person died as a result, what would they say? " Uhm, sorry"

Third, the streets were left in disgusting condition! They all use the streets as heir personal garbage pail, like in Geula. I know, because I live there and see the street garbage everyday. Why didn't they make sure they had a cleanup crew after? They all go home and shalom ol Yisroel. Let someone do the dirty work. No wonder they can't stand the sight of us.

Hey - you have a good point "Let someone do the dirty work." There are plenty of Americans, Brits, Russians, Germans, etc. who have served in their respective militaries who are now out of the service and are looking for jobs. Why don't we hire them to serve in the IDF. No problem with Shabbos, no problem with food, no tznius problems. And all the yidden can stay home and learn whatever Torah they want.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 07:05 PM Anonymous Says:

Some of you need to get a life.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 07:30 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #46  
common-sense Says:

Give me a Mekor (a source) in Chazal that says that the existence of a Jewish State before Moshiach comes is a rebellion against Hashem. You will not be able to give me a Mekor because it does not exist.

Go out and buy Satmar Rebbe ztl seforim...you will get all your answers.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 08:06 PM common-sense Says:

Reply to #85  
Maven Says:

Contiued.....
To violate the oaths is not only a sin, it is a heresy because it is against the fundamentals of our Belief. Only through complete repentance will the Almighty alone, without any human effort or intervention, redeem us from exile. This will be after G-d will send the prophet Elijah and Moshiach who will induce all Jews to complete repentance. At that time there will be universal peace.

I asked for a Mekor and you just parrot what you heard somewhere, which has some truth to it, but the rest is not based on any Mekor. The Gemoro talks about the three oaths in Kidushin. They are as follows:
1. That a State will not be created in Eretz Yisroel without the consent of the nations of the world. FACT - The State of Israel was created by resolution of the United Nations, which represents the nations of the world.
2. That Jews will not emigrate to the Land en masse - FACT - There has never been a en masse emigration to Eretz Yisroel. In fact, most Jews live outside the Land.
3. That the Goyim will not overly oppress us - FACT - The Holocaust. Need I say more?
Therefore, creating that State of Israel is consistent with the Gemoro In Kidushin. The Gemoro says nothing about the coming of Moshiach as a prerequisite to the creation of a State.

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 08:42 PM akiva26 Says:

Reply to #88  
Anonymous Says:

Well you sure didn't attend school with secular studies and look towards a career. Why would he be a looser rather than a loser? Your point reversed itself and is now looking at you full in the face. Now apologize like a gentleman.

A) I am Canadian and Speak French.
B) I do have a good education including a career with high education
C) it miss spelled by it self
D) I am happy to be free of this state if Israel

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 08:47 PM bubii Says:

Reply to #82  
Anonymous Says:

The Shame is on you, that you are not even trying to understand the pain and agony of all those people

You are not people you are robots to youre rebbes, zombies incapable of thinking critically for youselfs

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 08:50 PM Pragmatic Says:

Reply to #96  
common-sense Says:

I asked for a Mekor and you just parrot what you heard somewhere, which has some truth to it, but the rest is not based on any Mekor. The Gemoro talks about the three oaths in Kidushin. They are as follows:
1. That a State will not be created in Eretz Yisroel without the consent of the nations of the world. FACT - The State of Israel was created by resolution of the United Nations, which represents the nations of the world.
2. That Jews will not emigrate to the Land en masse - FACT - There has never been a en masse emigration to Eretz Yisroel. In fact, most Jews live outside the Land.
3. That the Goyim will not overly oppress us - FACT - The Holocaust. Need I say more?
Therefore, creating that State of Israel is consistent with the Gemoro In Kidushin. The Gemoro says nothing about the coming of Moshiach as a prerequisite to the creation of a State.

Maybe we should should commit mass suicide?

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 Mar 02, 2014 at 10:02 PM hashomer Says:

Reply to #96  
common-sense Says:

I asked for a Mekor and you just parrot what you heard somewhere, which has some truth to it, but the rest is not based on any Mekor. The Gemoro talks about the three oaths in Kidushin. They are as follows:
1. That a State will not be created in Eretz Yisroel without the consent of the nations of the world. FACT - The State of Israel was created by resolution of the United Nations, which represents the nations of the world.
2. That Jews will not emigrate to the Land en masse - FACT - There has never been a en masse emigration to Eretz Yisroel. In fact, most Jews live outside the Land.
3. That the Goyim will not overly oppress us - FACT - The Holocaust. Need I say more?
Therefore, creating that State of Israel is consistent with the Gemoro In Kidushin. The Gemoro says nothing about the coming of Moshiach as a prerequisite to the creation of a State.

Thank you. And I understand there are virtually no criteria for exemptions that charedi men would qualify for, according to Torah.

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 Mar 03, 2014 at 06:21 AM PashutehYid Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

The hands that protect you????? that's your problem, you think krim..The hands that protect you are not the IDF...it is HKBH that protects you...you fool. Hashem can send a little fly, as they say and save the world. He doesn't need the idf to do his job. All we have to do is learn Torah and connect to Hashem and he will give us everything we ever needed or wanted. You are the one that is confused. Yidden have always protested...that does not mean they have no class, menchlichkeit etc. I guess you believe that you are more "Oisgearbet" than the gedolim who asked for this. Well, well, you are quite backwards in your thinking. In any case, no one cares what "You" have to say. We care about what the Torah has to say. So enjoy the security you feel from your army. We will enjoy the security we feel from Hashem protecting us.

There was a famous story where an avreich didn't want to take out garbage in his house because it was beneath him, and also bitul torah. His wife told Reb Shlomo Zalman Auerbach. The next day he came to their apartment door and told the avreich, I don't want to disturb your learning, so let me take out the garbage for you.

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 Mar 03, 2014 at 06:28 AM PashutehYid Says:

Reply to #66  
Daas-Torah Says:

i see that many ppl miss the point.
the sucess of the event has nothing to do about the media. (is something its just the opposite) we jews have one tool which is Tefilah and in this situation whwn such a Tzurah is on klal yisroel and all shtadlunis didn't help. we uae our old method of gathering together and scream to hashem and show him that we only rely on him and only he can help us in a situation that we are helpless and he will iyh bring us the yeshia from an unexpected way....

Who was working hard to protect you and direct traffic and insure no accidents happened at the very moment you were cursing them out? The police and medinah. What a total shanda.

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 Mar 03, 2014 at 06:32 AM PashutehYid Says:

Reply to #81  
Anonymous Says:

Get your facts straight before doing all these non sense comparisons, There is no shortage in the army and no one is serving longer.
How may you dare compare todays times to the Shevet Levi exemption

How can you compare today's times to the times of chumash? They were big tzaddikim, so they had to eat kosher. We are nobodys, so we can eat treif. It is funny that when a Chareidi wants, he will make the same argument as a Reform Rabbi.

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 Mar 03, 2014 at 02:54 PM Lev Seltzer Says:

I especially like the quote from the 18 year old boy Mordechai.

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