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Jun 24, 2008 at 11:42 AM
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The driver Mr. Avraham G. 30, had ten passengers in the back of his Volvo S70, two women with babies on their laps and six children under the age of 10 half-seated or standing up.
In the front passenger seat of the car, which was built to carry just five people, was a man of 28 and another child, this time a boy of seven. Mr. G was banned of driving for 12 months.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 11:54 AM Anonymous Says:
When will we stop making such a Chillul Hashem?
People please THINK before you do silly things like this.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 11:54 AM Anonymous Says:
great job! stupid person keeep it up!
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Jun 24, 2008 at 11:55 AM Yitzchokm Says:
It’s funny how the BBC will try to do anything to make a Jew look foolish.
Does the BBC routinely “re-do" traffic stops?
Nuance.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 11:55 AM joel schnur Says:
just like the clown car in the circus!
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM Chareidi Leumi Says:
The problem is that this is very common among frum people. I've seen 21 bochurim squeezed into a 10 passenger van. Besides being illegal it is extremely dangerous and there have been many fatalities is such situations. It is only Bichasdei Hashem that there aren't too many such insidents in our communities.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:07 PM starting to get anoyed Says:
to annano 11:54 did you ever stop and think that just maeby he could int afored 2-3 taxis for the ride first scream and wright down crap and then think
suggestion shut up.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:07 PM Anonymous Says:
Wow he did a Chased for 13 peaple at once.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM Anonymous Says:
Chillul Hashem !?!? What about SAFETY?!? I suppose he said tefilas haderech so he didnt need to worry about safe driving.
I see this in Brooklyn all the time, adults sitting in a car with infants, toddlers etc on their laps.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:14 PM yidman Says:
the BBC reporter did it wrong, there was plenty of room for the 3 left
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:20 PM Anonymous Says:
what about the "frum" school buses. they may not be jammed packed, but there are kids running up and down the bus, and standing on seats. you very rarely see them sitting!
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:20 PM Anonymous Says:
Where I live, to see 13 "shchoirim" in a compact car, or 6 mexicans in the front seat of a pickup (with another 16 in the bed of the truck) is the norm. But when you see a heimishe yid, it makes world news.
I guess we need to remember that we are bnei milochim and we are all held to a higher standard. If for no other reason other than the goyim are jealous, hence antisemish.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:25 PM Logic Says:
Instead of once again looking at this as the world trying to make us look dumb, how about we face the reality....this guy was really dumb.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:32 PM moshe kapoyer Says:
what can a goy know from shisha mischasim btallis echud? if theres room in the heart theres room in the car!!!!!
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:37 PM Schmendrik Says:
The BBC is obsessed with yidden in general & with frumme yidden in particular. just for them to post that stupid video where they show him trying to get away from the camera shows that this story is not at all about auto safety but about how stupid this frumme yid looks...
and to 11:54, "we" is not making a chilul hashem. the BBC is.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 12:40 PM Me Says:
"It’s funny how the BBC will try to do anything to make a Jew look foolish.
Does the BBC routinely “re-do" traffic stops? "
You sound like one of those people who call every traffic cop who give a yid a ticket, an anti semite.
13 people in a car is a interesting story. Jew or not. Period.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 01:10 PM mr hyde Says:
there is only 1 thing to say
this is bbc at thier very best
will allways find something bad about us
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Jun 24, 2008 at 01:30 PM Anonymous Says:
Next time have him use some Siechal! When your car is over loaded you tie some passengers to the roof! After all thats what the roofrack is made for!
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Jun 24, 2008 at 01:43 PM Anonymous Says:
Why did't they call for a Grand Jury? In Brooklyn, N.Y. U.S.A. it would of been the case, by the D.A. shmendrik Hynes.
Maybe he should become a BBC reporter? if he loses elections in Broooklyn.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 01:53 PM Londoner Says:
The difference is that these goyim (you see on this video) pushed themselvs in without any "achdus" and not even a smile on their face but Im sure that our lovely brothers and sisters "kvetched" themselves in with "achdus" and hapiness where then you can even push in more...
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Jun 24, 2008 at 02:00 PM Anonymous Says:
The suicide bomers are willing to do damage to themselfs, for the sake of others in suffering.
So to for the vollunteers who undertook to squash themselfs in the vehicle, for the sake of antisemitism.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 02:14 PM Anonymous Says:
Chosid shoteh
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Jun 24, 2008 at 02:28 PM Anonymous Says:
the BBC has the best reporters int world so i don't know why everyone is complaining your just a bunch of fools
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Jun 24, 2008 at 03:01 PM Daas Atzmi Says:
Whoever is familiar with the BBC knows that if a Jew would scratch the finger tip of a Muslim they would make headlines of it and will not shut up on their radio station!! but if a Muslim would blow himself up in an Israeli mall killing 15 Jews they won't spend on it more then 1/2 a minute
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Jun 24, 2008 at 03:14 PM Anonymous Says:
It never ceases to amaze me about the ignorance of so many people that are saying the BBC are anti semetic. This story would have made the same headlines if it were a muslim or what ever. the bottom line is, it is bizarre and thats why it is garnering attention
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Jun 24, 2008 at 03:15 PM Anonymous Says:
+another case of government intruding in our private affairs.we that had a chance to grow up in a more sane world,even got 21 adults in a Volkswagen.if jhony cocaron was the lawyer and oj the accused he get acquitted. if it don't fit you must acquit.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 03:42 PM Anonymous Says:
i will never forget the summer that i happened to be in the office of a certain camp. i heard a 15 or 16 year old boy crying his heart out. he had just learned that one of his friends had been killed in an accident that happened because a camp vehicle (from a different camp) was overloaded with boys and turned over on the highway. this is not something to laugh out. be careful out there.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 03:43 PM Anonymous Says:
I THINK HE SHOULD REALLY GO IN TO THE GUINESS BOOK
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Jun 24, 2008 at 03:51 PM Anonymous Says:
Great Story!
Wow! finally BBC got some great stuff to smack up the Jews!
I'm glad this was all it for now!
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Jun 24, 2008 at 03:54 PM Anonymous Says:
bbc is anti israeli anti jewish anti semitic.
even so they have very good news coverage
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Jun 24, 2008 at 04:02 PM Anonymous Says:
Re: Anon 2:42 ...because a camp vehicle (from a different camp) was overloaded with boys and turned over....
Are you saying that the van turned over cauze it was OVERLOADED?
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Jun 24, 2008 at 04:02 PM Gefilte Fish Says:
3:14, it seems you dont know the bbc
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Jun 24, 2008 at 04:03 PM Gefilte Fish Says:
Nuch a mazel they didnt check the trunk!
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Jun 24, 2008 at 04:27 PM Expatriate Owl Says:
So many people don't use seatbelts. And then, when there is a fatal accident because someone is killed because they weren't wearing a seatbelt, we get the shnor letters from Rabbi Mattisyahu and/or Rabbi Malkiel in Lakewood!
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Jun 24, 2008 at 04:58 PM Anonymous Says:
Apart from the fact that this was most dangerous & stupid thing to do, it reminds me of the time me & my Bochurim friends in the UK crammed into a Mini...arms, legs & heads out of the doors & windows, gear stick digging into rear ends, faces squished into the windshield etc. I think the record was about 16 of us.
Of course,we had more sense than to DRIVE!! Maybe this was also a record-breaking attempt?
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Jun 24, 2008 at 05:00 PM schlemazel Says:
We know the family who did this, they are no different to all of us, good caring people who have served the kehilla (by being melamdim) through their generations. We took a trip,very elderly gr.parents in the back on the laps of the teens, the 11-12 yearolds squeezed on top with their feet out of the car, had to open the windows to fit us all in, how else does a frum family go on a chol hamoed outing? We drove very carefully. I just read a survey that nealy 100% of participants said they have driven under the influence of drugs - goim! I think we are a lot safer, because we love our family and it takes a lot of love to fit them all in the car with joy. You should hear the humour along the way.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 05:04 PM Anonymous Says:
What, and no mechitza?! :-)
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Jun 24, 2008 at 05:05 PM Anonymous Says:
Gotta Digg this...
I wonder why Drudge didn't catch up on this story...
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Jun 24, 2008 at 05:07 PM Chaim S. Says:
To the comment about schroirim or mexicans. Are you equating a yid with them? do they learn pirkei avos? do they have minhagim that are meant to enhance the kavod habriyos that we do? are we to emulate them? if they do something, does that mean we can do those things too? where's darkei ho'amori? Yes, they can do it and no, we cannot do it. And yes the news media is right in pointing this out to us. We should answer to a higher standard.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 05:31 PM Anonymous Says:
It’s funny how the BBC will try to do anything to make a Jew look foolish. WRONG. The Jew made himself look foolish and caused a great Chillul Hashem
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Jun 24, 2008 at 05:36 PM Babishka Says:
Last year we drove around in the Galil with 5 adults and 2 toddlers squashed together in a Ford Escort.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 06:09 PM Yankel Turech Says:
Her ois I once went to the rebbi with the gantza mishpocha, nu I have 16 kids, should I leave them home alon? no ,No Az men geit tzom rebbinyu the whole mishpocha goes,,now dont ask me how many kinderlach were in my minivan,,cause maybee a cop reads this..
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Jun 24, 2008 at 06:17 PM Shmiel Says:
European countries are very strict about passenger car occupancy rates in car. If a car is certified for 5 people, police will give a hefty fine for each passenger over the limit. Not to mention seat belts for all occupants, even in the back.
Yes, it's a big tircha for the yidishe communities, but safety comes first!
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Jun 24, 2008 at 06:46 PM hasidic cop Says:
Schmendrik Says:
The BBC is obsessed with yidden in general & with frumme yidden in particular. just for them to post that stupid video where they show him trying to get away from the camera shows that this story is not at all about auto safety but about how stupid this frumme yid looks...
and to 11:54, "we" is not making a chilul hashem. the BBC is.
06-24-2008 - 12:37 PM
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and you are obsessed with making yiddin look very bad
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Jun 24, 2008 at 07:02 PM Anonymous Says:
congratulations Expatriate Owl(4:27)!!! you managed to bring lakewood into the mix and bash them!! it seems like everyone always finds a way...
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Jun 24, 2008 at 07:09 PM ZEMEL Says:
who remembers the joke at the "letzta gedank" play about such a story
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Jun 24, 2008 at 07:30 PM Yitzchak Says:
In the second clip there is a clear but subtle attempt by the reporter to ridicule the Jew. It reminds me of the anti Jewish propaganda that you see in the museums -- propaganda that preceded the holocaust.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 08:24 PM Anonymous Says:
The BBC forced him to put so many people in his car. They obviously made him do this. Those anti-semitin
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Jun 24, 2008 at 08:27 PM Shtinkowitz Says:
ZEMEL? Is that you?
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Jun 24, 2008 at 09:15 PM Anonymous Says:
sorry bbs ! ! ! but we've done it several times and they fit in, but they don't have these problems of so many people getting from 1 destination to another for thay don't have these big families. but, please note , that big bbs could not tell us the danger in so many people, can someone else explain why a car overfilled with passangers is more dangerous to ride in then a car where everyone sits comfortable? true, it's not so comfortable to sit in an overpacked car. but, more dangerous, why??? and who says???
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Jun 24, 2008 at 09:25 PM Anonymous Says:
STUPID
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Jun 24, 2008 at 10:19 PM Anonymous Says:
Please tell me Anonymous 9:15 is joking...
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Jun 24, 2008 at 10:44 PM Pinky's wife Says:
He should be lauded for trying to save gas!!
No one has done this better.
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Jun 24, 2008 at 11:10 PM Anonymous Says:
My personal opinion is that the BBC is not wrong for making this some Headline News. Come to think about it, IT IS realllly pathetic!!! Despite the fact that it's against the law, what about 'Ushmartem Es Nafshosaichem', for your own safety and the safety of your family??? However, I do feel that second clip was totally irrelevant. I think we all got the point without that exaggerated demonstration.
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Jun 25, 2008 at 12:12 AM the truth Says:
This guy stated that he really wanted to call a cab but.........
The real truth is that this chosid was to cheap and cared more about saving 5.00 than his entire family. It really is amazing how people would rather put their entire families life in danger in order to save five to ten dollars.
This is not just happening in London but happening all over NYC.
I live in Monsey and saw many people going up to the mountains with overloaded cars.
Of course when a state trooper will pull a yid over for driving like a meshuganeh some people will open their big mouth and call the state trooper an anti semite for protecting citizens of NYS.
Shame on anyone that tries putting their 13 children in a car that fits 5!
if only we can have a law in the United States which would bar anyone from driving for 5 years if caught driving while talking on a cell phone
and/ or driving with an overloaded car.
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Jun 25, 2008 at 01:30 AM Anonymous Says:
You have a large number of unsecured people in a vehicle that will be moving fast.
If that vehicle should stop suddenly (either because it hit something, or to avoid an accident) the momentum has to go somewhere.
Unlike passengers who are safely in seat belts, loose passengers are going to continue to move forward at 60 miles an hour until they hit something, crushing small children between multiple adults and the ceiling or seats in front of them.
Loose children in the front seat would either hit the windshield at that velocity, or by smashed by the airbags which are designed to protect a single adult sitting in a seat.
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Jun 25, 2008 at 08:05 AM Anonymous Says:
After reading 1:30, I think everything has been said that needs to be said. People...take note!
Except this...if we, as Jews, break the law/act stupidly, we've got to stop screaming anti semitism. The BBC didn't make this stuff up. They took the ball & ran with it. So? The guy deserved the public humiliation.
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Jun 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM Anonymous Says:
antisemite ahine, antisemite aher, bottom line is the car was overloaded and he was caught creating a potentially dangerous situation. If not for that, nobody would be the wiser and nobody would be yelling, antisemite, yimach shmoe vezichro...
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Jun 25, 2008 at 12:32 PM Abba Englander Says:
I also know this family and if they can afford to travel from London to Wales, presumably not thirteen in a Volvo, then thay can surely afford the taxi fare for some outing.
Also, if the car is overloaded, then the road holding is not the same, nor is thge braking power.
Anyway, why cram so many people in a Volvo, why not in a Smart car? It would be a bigger chochma
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Jun 25, 2008 at 12:35 PM critic Says:
R' Akiva Eiger ZT"L also answers some times " YESH LE'YAASHEV BE'DOICHEK"
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Jun 25, 2008 at 05:35 PM Upset Says:
I think most posts have summed this up.
A person who can put 13 people into a car, is at best *ah meshigana*! In my opinion he is lucky he got away with a ban & fine and not G-d forbid anything worse!
What if chas vesholom there was an accident. Is he responsible with kids. What sort of conscience would the fella have to live with for the rest of his life! I am not sure who this fella is, but I would suggest the Rabbis have a good strong word with him and advise him not just of the massive Chillul Hashen he has caused but also a lesson in "Venishmartem etc."
Truly upset having to have come across this!
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Jun 25, 2008 at 11:18 PM Anonymous Says:
ha! that's nothing. my kid tells me of a trip his drama teacher took with over 20 kids in her jeep...built for 6.
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Jun 26, 2008 at 04:35 AM B S Yid Says:
After all we have done for Volvo over the years...
they go and leak the story to the BBC
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Jun 26, 2008 at 11:09 PM llandudno Says:
Chillul Hashem?? grow up you antijewsemies its not a Chillul Hashem, its just that the gentiles hate all jews.
all of London sees the funny part of it! who cares for the ones who don't. God live the Helpful Jews. Always doing Chesed!
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Jun 26, 2008 at 11:10 PM Cowyn Bay Says:
hahahaha.most people have done better......13 passangers are good!
Long live the Bal Hachseds of the Land of the Yidden!
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Aug 08, 2008 at 11:32 AM Anonymous Says:
Volvo is a German company thats why it was wrong!
Stick em in a buick with a hechsher from the grobirover Rebbe and its all fine
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Sep 22, 2008 at 05:05 PM Anonymous Says:
thats how zemil from "de latzte gedank" used to travel, i guess the BBC wasnt around then
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Oct 25, 2008 at 11:51 PM der babe suere Says:
nu, ven geit men machen ah dvd fin dem letzten gedank??????
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Nov 01, 2008 at 09:55 PM Anonymous Says:
“ It’s funny how the BBC will try to do anything to make a Jew look foolish.
Does the BBC routinely “re-do" traffic stops?
Nuance.
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no the bbc didnt do it the fool did and he makes us loook bad
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Nov 01, 2008 at 09:59 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The BBC is obsessed with yidden in general & with frumme yidden in particular. just for them to post that stupid video where they show him trying to get away from the camera shows that this story is not at all about auto safety but about how stupid this frumme yid looks...
and to 11:54, "we" is not making a chilul hashem. the BBC is. ”
amazing how we make fools of our selves endanger lives and blame it on the bbc or the authorities
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Nov 01, 2008 at 10:00 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Volvo is a German company thats why it was wrong!
Stick em in a buick with a hechsher from the grobirover Rebbe and its all fine ”
idoit its made in sweden the ignorance here is to great
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Nov 10, 2008 at 07:31 PM jordansw Says:
Kudos for the guy's sense of embarrassment! Doing something stupid is one thing. At least he appears to know it. He didn't walk to court arrogantly with his chin up. I'd put my money on his thinking twice before going overboard like this again. It's a success for him and the law.