Fallsburg, NY – Man Killed in Hit-N-Run

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    Fallsburg, NY – A South Fallsburg man was killed in a hit and run accident on Route 42 just south of the hamlet.

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    Fallsburg police were called by a cyclist who was going to work.
    The victim, a man in his 50s whose name has not been released, was killed instantly, Det.
    Travis Hartman said.

    The driver of the vehicle that hit him did not stop and left the scene.
    Police were seeking leads on who might have hit the man.

    It is unclear if the victim was walking on the road, Hartman say.

    U/D: 12:49pm
    Police have picked up the driver from the vehicle at Twin Oaks Bungalow Colony, who claims he didn’t know anything about the accident, and didn’t see or feel that he hit anything on the roadway.

    U/D 4:58 PM
    The Driver was released on $25,000 bond, and was asked to surrender his passport.


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    the driver or the victim, were they yidden?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Victim was apparently a goy. Driver a yid.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Twin oaks is a heimesh place

    gg
    gg
    15 years ago

    Does it really make a differece if the victim or the driver were yiddin?

    Delighted
    Delighted
    15 years ago

    sure it makes a diffrence!! KOL YISROEL AREIVIM ZE LUZEH.. We’re all brothers..

    NEBECH
    NEBECH
    15 years ago

    WOW !!! THAT GOES TO SHOW HOW CAREFUL WE HAVE TO BE FROM ONE SECOND TO THE NEXT WE HAVE A YID WHICH IS IN TERIBBLE PAIN NO SHABBOS NO MENUCHA IN THE COUNTRY OY VIE PLEASE BE CAREFUL DRIVERS.

    AND TO ALL PLEASE USE REFLECTORS

    MAY HASHEM HELP WE ALL STAY SAFE AND GEZUNT A WHOLE SUMMER

    abe
    abe
    15 years ago

    Knowing the driver and family.. This was a total accident, and never would he leave the accident if he had tjhe slightest knowledge what had just happend.. Please use reflecters, and use extra caution

    suv-er
    suv-er
    15 years ago

    abe Says:

    Knowing the driver and family.. This was a total accident, and never would he leave the accident if he had tjhe slightest knowledge what had just happend.. Please use reflecters, and use extra caution

    07-04-2008 – 7:52 PM

    ================================================

    knowing someone does NOT mean a thing. Most people who leave the scene would never admit to it when asked beforehand if they would actually leave a scene. Peple do crazy things when they are in a pickle . I am not judging this person but my point is that knowing a person means ZILCH unless you were there and saw what he did its meaningless.

    anonymous
    anonymous
    15 years ago

    Reflectors would not do anything during the day and has nothing to do with NOT stopping after hitting and killing a person.

    I’m in twin oaks right now and came up Friday morning and it was raining very hard. The roads were slick and eventhough it was overcast and on the darkish side it was not that dark where a driver would not be able to see someone on the side of the road.

    There must be more to the story but everyone is asking about the damage to the car. Wouldn’t the driver wonder how his car was so banged up after hitting nothing?!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    I think the city should be sued for not providing safe walking space for pedestrians. We pay taxes. Why shouldn’t we get proper sidewalks.

    Think of all the walking suburbians would do if they could do it safely. It would save the city millions in medical bills.

    frum in sullivan couty all year round
    frum in sullivan couty all year round
    15 years ago

    to 1:15 am.

    It’s not the city, it’s the country !!! The vast majority of the small population of folks that live there year round, drive. Just drive like a mentch and respect state law and don’t drive like you’re in boro park or williamsburg and all these unnecessary accidents can be avoided. Monsey used to be like country living not that long ago and the Brooklynites that moved up there destroyed it ; Traffic, noise, crowded side walks, ultra crowded clusters of homes that is like a ghetto- with beautiful grass and trees gone and replaced with huge homes( with illegal apartments) from all sides with a huge parking pad and no respect for zoning and building codes. WHEN NY CITY ( 5 boroughs ) residents travel or relocate to upstate or anywhere out of town you must learn to respect the people, laws and life styles that were there well before you arrived: not the other way around.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    To 1.15, so resorting to sueing the city is the solution to the problem?Whats wrong with you idiots, wont you see the light? Why dont these accidents happen all year around in these quiet areas of upstate Ny? Because people respect the laws and drive like mentchen. Sidewalks is not the problem, its all these heimishe chayos that park themselves up in the Catskills for 2 months and wreak havoc and cause a chilul hashem, they are the problem and they should be sued, not the city.

    Surch
    Surch
    15 years ago

    To frum in Sullivan: Give me Boro Park or Williamsburg any day. You think like a goy, whos goals are a house and car PERIOD. There is nothing more comforting than knowing that I’m surrounded by Yidden, young and older! After 120, I hope to merit the proverbial nice garden, in the meantime, I love my view of big wheels and bikes and toys and and and.

    Anon
    Anon
    15 years ago

    To 10:25

    What’s wrong with you? Math not your strong point, eh? Of course if there are far more people, there are bound to be more accidents. We don’t have “heimishe chayos.” We have people that go upstate for two months and revitalize the area and spend a lot of hard-earned money there. We are responsible for people having jobs there. Obviously with the influx of so many more vehicles and people, especially those not used to curving roads and no sidewalks, there will proportionally more accidens. Of course everyone should drive slowly and be careful but don’t rant about chayos and suing and chilul Hashem. You are way out of line.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    How can people comment and lay blame without knowing the circumstances of what caused the accident? Investigation is vital.We do not know if the victim might have appeared suddendly in front of the car and whether the visability was compromised both because of meager country lighting coupled with inclement weather. Let’s not play lawyer and G-d.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    he is a good friend of mine. he is was one of the most aidel ppl i know. he would not leave a scene of a crime. be dan lchaf zchus. maybe he thoght he hit a rock. no point talking about it it is pure loshon hora daven that he shold be saved from all harm

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    I know the driver very very well. He is a fine and super fellow. Would not hurt anyone. Would not leave the scene of an accident. He had surely no idea that he hit a person; thought he hit an a dear or other animal. Who would stop on a rainy night at midninght or later to see if the animal is hurt? Before you know you hit a bear cub and out comes the big bear mother at you. Then what?

    Let’s all be reasonable and think carefully before judgeing others.

    Visibility on those roads at night in rain is severly compromised. Anyone walking there at that hour is nuts.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    no matter wahat, it is a law that must be followed. if u hit something and u r not sure what , u must pull over and call 911 and wait for the cops to come. PERIOD

    otherwise anyway u slice it, its hit and run

    Fed up Reform Jew
    Fed up Reform Jew
    15 years ago

    I don’t see a single comment on the board concerned with the family of the man killed in this accident. My thoughts are with them and I hope yours are too.

    Reb Yid
    Reb Yid
    15 years ago

    1. Does “Fed up Reform Jew” post to non-Jewish blogs when they talk about how one of them accidentally killed a Yid r”l? I thought not

    2. As long as juries overwhelmingly side w/ the plaintiff in motor vehicle accident cases, no one is going to stop so that he can be sued. That’s just the reality. And especially if the victim is killed r”l, nothing would be gained by stopping.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Fed Up Reform Jew is right on the money. If this case were reversed and the victim Jewish and Non Jewish blogs would just ignore the fact that a jew was killed by a hit and run , everyone would be shouting anti semiten. But since the victim is a goy, the attitude is , who cares. Shame on all of you sick people out there.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    o please…the attitude is not who cares and nobody is sick for “ignoring” the dead guy. the fact of the matter is, when someone in your family is facing ten or so odd years in a maximum security prison for a hit and run it is he you are worried about. it doesnt mean that when you stop to think about the person who was unfortunately killed you dont get sad or cry or feel bad. it just means your heart, thoughts and prayers are mainly, and rightfully, with the member of your family. and wen a jewish person, who lives in many of our neighborhood, who most people know or know someone who knows, is in this unfortunate position it is he who we are crying for, and to expect anything else, from any community, would be ludicrous.

    a yid
    a yid
    15 years ago

    how did the police find this person so quickly

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    WHY MAKE A RACIAL ISSUE OUT OF THIS? IT IS ONLY A SELF HATING JEW THAT CAN SAY NO ONE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ONE WHO WAS HIT .

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Fed Up and 6:16.

    Unfortunately you do not understand our concerns at all. Of course we feel bad for the person who died and his family but the bottom line is–none of us know who he is. Did you ever hear reporters talking about hundreds or thousands of people who die or are injured in natural disasters or wars? It’s a two-minute item in a news report. But if the wounded/killed is a reporter from that paper or station, or a celebrity that everyone knows, we are going to hear constant updates on his condition or the funeral arrangements. Why? Because the victim is KNOWN to the reporters or the public.

    No one is whispering, let alone “shouting” anti semitism if a non-Jewish blog ignores a Jew being killed ch”v by a hit and run. No one would expect otherwise. It’s just one more news item in a day, week, or month filled with such items.

    However, this site is frequented by members of the Jewish community–a tight-knit community of people who know each other and feel for each other as brothers–as one body. If one of us is hurting, we are all hurting. That is why the comments reflect concern for the driver of the car–he is a member of the family.

    6:16, I don’t know if you are a member of the flock but if so, you and Fed Up are unfortunately feeling outside the family circle. We would welcome you back with open arms and if you rejoin your brethren (there are many kiruv organizations that would be happy to guide you), you would understand the pain that each one of us feels when another is hurt.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    To 6:16 it’s obvious YOU have issues; if this was your child, or nephew would you be posting this moronic comment?!

    To 7:12, I couldn’t agree with you more.

    To people out there who think different, it was an unfortunate situation, he’s a very fine boy, and just maybe he panicked?!

    Our allegiance is to our own, and it is natural to feel his and his family’s pain. To quote 7:12 “to expect anything else from any community would be ludicrous”.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    This kid was either under the influence or excessivley speeding if he did not feel the car hitting a human. Come on, what kind of baloney statement is that. The fact of the matter is that he had a window of 6 hours to be “coached” into what should be said to law enforcement.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    hes not a kid. hes a responsible father of one soon to be two who was definitely not under the influence and when driving at nite on a bumpy country road it is not uncommon to not feel your car hitting something. why everyone seems to feel it their duty to automatically condemn him is beyond me…remember, no matter what sort of civil service you feel you’re accomplishing by automatically rendering him guilty, we actually have a halachic obligation to believe him. how can we expect sympathy on the part of a non jewish judge if all you people are so quick to condemn without knowing anything?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Most statements here are outright silly, period!

    I live in Brooklyn and have on rare occasions hit something whilst driving at night; perhaps a cat running across or a stray dog, squirrel or whatever. I did not stop. There is no law that tells you to stop for that.

    The law says that you must stop when involved in an accident (of course when hitting a person).

    A driver does not neccessarily see the ‘person’ he hit when driving on a dark and rainy night on an unlit country road. The person could have stepped suddenly into his path on the side of the car as the driver was gazing forward. In that case the driver would be totally unaware of him.

    If one feels a sudden bump it most like is caused by an animal or a large branch the fell off a tree or whatever. This happened to make often.

    Any of you wiseguys who so easily convict that unfortunate driver would for sure not have stopped (unless – I hope – you knew that you hit a person). Talk is cheap and easy; but who gets out on a dark and rainy country road to inspect? In the dark on a country road you would not see a thing and perhaps cause another accident.

    A person walking on a dark and wet road at a crazy hour is deranged or drunk and could have caused his own demise. I pity him.

    A Non Mouse
    A Non Mouse
    15 years ago

    The fellow posting at 9:19 says: “What kind of baloney story…this kid was under the influence or…”

    Are you crazy?

    Yes, not always does one realize that one hit a person. The victim is not always smack in front of your windshield in the middle of the road and waving his hand! If the car struck the victim at it’s corner, the driver would barely feel the impact but the victim would be seriously hurt.

    I happened to know this driver personally. He does not drink (maybe grapejuice for kiddush) and is a responsible driver and head of a family.

    I think that you are under the influence, not him.

    With such self-hating jews like you we don’t need enemies. You probably are a proud member of the ‘Bezelem’ movement in Israel who are busy tracking the sins of the IDF. Hamas and Hezbollah would welcome you.

    I suspect that you would have left the scene when hitting someone. You would for sure be under the influence.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    “Reb Yid” Wrote

    2. As long as juries overwhelmingly side w/ the plaintiff in motor vehicle accident cases, no one is going to stop so that he can be sued. That’s just the reality. And especially if the victim is killed r”l, nothing would be gained by stopping.

    07-06-2008 – 4:32 PM

    You are clearly un educated in law, and have no moral compass in your life.

    If you hit someone and call the police you have the opportunity to save the life of a fellow human being, and may face a law suit from the victim, which your insurance company will take care of.

    If you leave the scene of an accident you have someone elses blood on your hands, and if caught you can face serious jail time.

    So if you KNOW that you hit sombody, do youself and your family a favor and pull over.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    magic the damage to his car appeared from nowhere…. if he was driving at a responsible speed he should be able to feel that he hit something he should have pulled over and dialed 911 what if it was your family member hit would u still feel hes innocent ???? i think not

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    There is a big difference between hitting a rock and a “deer”.FYI one of the side mirror was ripped off and there was a hole on a front windshield as a size of my fist.I am guessing he knew exactly what happened, freaked out and sped away.