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Jul 09, 2008 at 10:10 AM
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While doing so, Avraham allegedly broke the cord that attached the scanning pen to the main unit, and tossed the pen into the street. Then he repeatedly shoved the agent, police said.
He was arrested on charges of attempted assault, menacing and criminal mischief.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 10:18 AM Anonymous Says:
finally. These traffic people need to get the message. They mostly target the JEWISH community. When I go to work in NYC, my meter can expire and I won't get a ticket most of the time. But if I park on 13th ave, they are crawling to get us.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 10:24 AM Anonymous Says:
Oh wow!! No riots??? In BP??
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Jul 09, 2008 at 10:28 AM Anonymous Says:
For the people that are busy with kidush hashem chilul hashem I ask what is this ?
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Jul 09, 2008 at 10:45 AM Chaim S. Says:
What are these guys thinking when they do this? Forget halacha and chilul hashem when assaulting an official. Plain common sense. You obstruct their work, even without assaulting, you will get arrested.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 10:51 AM Anonymous Says:
More power to him !!! I only wish i was there to watch and cheer him on .
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:06 AM Anonymous Says:
The idiots gonna sit for that shove these traffic cops are not worth the spit on the ground dealing with them is a waste of time you wanna have an effect call your rep!!
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:26 AM mimi Says:
To everyone who's supporting the idiot who broke the law, and then physically assaulted another human being:
The guy obviously did something that earned him a ticket. The traffic agent was merely doing the job he gets paid for. HELLO? Am I missing something, or is who commented thus far just a bunch of ignoramus hooligans?
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:29 AM tzoizmir Says:
now its going to cost him more then the ticket would of been
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:30 AM Anonymous Says:
Two sides to every story. Whatever these agents say are usually BS. The guy maybe stood in the front of the agent and maybe touched a drop… c’mon………. did he really push shove rip the pen toss in the street……….. NAAAAA I don’t believe it and you do, you are stupid.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:31 AM Anonymous Says:
This is tragic because Mayor Blumberg announced a couple of months ago that he is upgrading these type of charges to a felony punishable by 7 yrs in jail.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:33 AM Anonymous Says:
These agents call the cops if u look at them the wrong way and say you assaulted them. Then the cops come and arrest you regardless of what other wittnesses may say
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:33 AM mimi Says:
Am I missing something, or is everyone who commented thus far just a bunch of ignoramus hooligans?
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:34 AM Anonymous Says:
Those traffic agents are known to blow up their stories, this man probably blocked him from stepping to his windshield, so he can say now whatever he wants.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:35 AM Anonymous Says:
That area is a warehouse area with no clear parking regulations. Thats why the Brownies love it. They get 10 - 15 cars in a row.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:38 AM Anonymous Says:
Mimi you are missing alot.
The cops will say you hit them if you get in thier face. In court its your word againt the copy and you lose.
Yes in BP they are more agressive with giving out tickets even if you come before they start writing the ticket they will write it. This WILL NOT happpen in OTHER neighborhoods.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:57 AM annoynmes Says:
Stop With These Nonsense I Saw Once How A Traffic Goy! Made Such A Fuss For Nothing He Didnt Touch Her Even But She Made A Complain That He Shoved Her.Enough Is Enough With These So Called Officers!
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:57 AM Anonymous Says:
I highly doubt that an otherwise non violent person shoved a traffic cop.
Now lets see the agent filed a report under penalty of perjury that he was repeatedly assaulted, under penalty of perjury of course.
That area is under closed circuit tv surveilance 24hrs a day.
Avraham K. I know that you are under a lot of stress right now. However if you did not assault the agent even if you did block the registration sticker The DA will review the video tapes and offer you a plea bargain.
DO NOT TAKE IT!!!!
On behalf of all victims of these perjurous Brownies I emplore you, please press charges and sue for false arrest, violation of civil liberties and the whole gamut!
A fellow victim!
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:58 AM Anonymous Says:
Yea go vote for bloomberg he saved the city from whatever he claimed he did with YOUR money not his. i think the symbol of nyc should be a orange envelope and by the stamp we should have a reedy looking face of bloomberg.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:59 AM Anonymous Says:
Sorry a "greedy" looking face of bloomberg.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:05 PM Anonymous Says:
I personally know this person. He is a wonderful individual.
I see that everyone is posting comments based on speculation so let me tell you his story.
On 14th ave by shorei haddas there was a levia going on. The cars usually double park on the avenue.
He was double parked in front of the gas station, when 2 traffic agent came over from both sides of his car and told him to move. He explained that he is on the phone and doesn’t have a headset and will finish his call and move. One agent said ok, but then the second agent started writing the ticket.
He got upset and took away the pen through his window.
They told him to get out of the car. When he came out they grabbed his arm so he took his own arm and touched the agent. The agent said that he touched the agent first and they called the cops.
Guess whom the NYPD will believe him or the agent? So they arrested him.
I guess thats what "repeatedly shoved the agent" means. This could be a lesson how much we can trust the media.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:13 PM Anonymous Says:
07-09-2008 - 12:05 PM.
this is unbeleavable and these are the people bloomberg hired to save the city, cheap low lifes.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:22 PM Anonymous Says:
12:05,
You're still saying that he took the stylus from the traffic agent, that's pretty bad to begin with.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:26 PM jack Says:
he was right i now the story
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:27 PM Anonymous Says:
i once asked a trafic agent for her badge # and she toke out her radio she told me that she is calling for help because i harassed her all i did was that i asked her for her badge # so i walked away and she didnt call anyone
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:29 PM anonymous Says:
heres a hint, obey the traffic laws. they are there for YOUR safety. you break them, the city has every right to punish you with a knas.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:32 PM Concerned Member Says:
The unfortunate truth is that no matter how much these lowlifes antagonize citizens, no matter how much they display an inherent hatred for Jewish drivers, particularly in Brooklyn, and no matter how much they lie and cheat people who have done nothing wrong the police department will side with them over a citizen any day of the week.
This is always the case. These rude, disgraceful excuses for human beings have the full backing of the police department and there is nothing we can do about it.
That being said, whatever this guy did, whether he pushed, took a pen, whatever... that was a big mistake. As is the NYPD will always back the lowlife traffic agent. Why open yourself up to being arrested for assault?
"He was upset so have grabbed the pen"?? That was just not a good idea.
Believe me, after seeing many Hatzolah members get tickets while on call and even hearing about the Traffic Department towing a Hatzolah ambulance, I certainly know what kind of animals these are. You still can't touch them...
All the best to the guy, but I think he's going to have a lot of Tzuris because of this.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:35 PM Anonymous Says:
While I don't know the facts of the case. These meter maids really are public servants and as such need to treat the public with respect. I understand people can become beligerant to them but I've asked them questions (very nicely) and I've gotten rude responses. Also I've seen the meter maids...u turn over double yellow lined roads (Coney Island Ave) because they see a ticket opportunity. That is just malicious
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:38 PM Anonymous Says:
07-09-2008 - 12:29 PM
the knas is outrageous and not done fairly, nyc is from the only citys if not the only one that counts on the fines as a source of revenue so they are out there to fine you no matter what. the amounts per fine is outrageous its not a fine its a collection for the city to further support illegal’s.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:41 PM Anonymous Says:
Even if he was not breaking the law - he pulled over to use his cell phone and respectfull(I hope) asked to finish his call, ans was told okay by one of the officers, he would have been better off telling that story to a judge than breaking the law by grabbing the pen from the officer. What follows next is a result of that mistake.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:46 PM Anonymous Says:
He never should have left his car until the cops came
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:49 PM Anonymous Says:
I will be placing a vdeo camera in on my windshield pretty soon....
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:58 PM Anonymous Says:
now he can be like that city councilman who hit the traffic cop
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Jul 09, 2008 at 12:59 PM Anonymous Says:
Listen guys,
I already yelled (very loudly) at cops, but never have I touched them or taken away a pen from them...
I once had half a precient come over to a site I caused because I didn't think the cop was right...
But please, DO NOT touch them or take away things from them...
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Jul 09, 2008 at 01:02 PM anonymous Says:
Excellent Advice: FOLLOW THE LAWS! They're there for our protection. (Oh and whatever you decide to do.. don't touch anyone other than your wife--considered private property.)
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Jul 09, 2008 at 01:12 PM bigwheeel Says:
I agree with Anon. 12:32PM! And all the other posters who lecture us about how "The laws are here for our [own] well being and protection", fail to realize that a huge segment of those who are supposed to enforce the [traffic] laws (a/o to regular officers of the NYPD, who are more intelligent and well motivated) are the dregs (it's not what you think it it means! pls. lk. up in dict.) of society who bring their mental illness and anti-social behavior on the job, on top of their prejudice!
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Jul 09, 2008 at 01:20 PM Anonymous Says:
07-09-2008 - 1:02 PM thats so dumb read what happened
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Jul 09, 2008 at 01:42 PM Anonymous Says:
bigwheel,
who are you to decide what is a dreg? because they didnt leanr in kollel? cuz they couldnt afford touro colij?
everyone knows midwood and bp have the worst drivers in the city. our yeshivas should teach proper driving safety!
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Jul 09, 2008 at 02:12 PM Anonymous Says:
Wait a minute..! I thought we're to supposed to PRAVEH golus. What ? One standard for the Zionist Israelis , who according to the SHITAH are misgarer b'umos haolam , and another standard for BP? You see the hypocracy?
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Jul 09, 2008 at 02:17 PM bigwheeel Says:
Anon.1:42PM. The Regular officers of the NYPD didn't learn in Kollel or at Touro College, either!
It's, relating to other human beings, (yes, including Jews and Chassidim) that makes the difference!!!
p.s.: Other than your [standard prejudice or self consciousness, about being Jewish, YOU sure, didn't graduate Kollel or Touro College! I'm afraid grade school is far from you, too! Spelling, my friend!!!
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Jul 09, 2008 at 02:21 PM Anonymous Says:
Only Zionists are supposed to praveh golus , or didn't you know?
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Jul 09, 2008 at 02:38 PM Anonymous Says:
for anyone who thinks that boro park is targetd, come and spend the day in manhattan.
particularly near beth israel hospital. they ahve traffic agents there that not only write you a ticket if you are in your car, but they then wont give it to you and claim you drove off. i guess they hope that you wont check for it on line and then you end up with a penalty on top of the ticket.
all a bunch of chayas that flunked out of polica academy.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 03:32 PM Anonymous Says:
Sick. how can any self respecting Yid who knows that anyone can read this site just blanket and blindly call all traffic cops from the "dregs" of society?
Mr. Bigwheel,
YOU sir are a chilul hashem of the highest order. Its no wonder if a traffic cop can read your words and then not have negative feelings towards us.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 03:33 PM Concerned Member Says:
I don't understand why some people feel the absolute need to turn everything into a religious vs. non religious issue.
This has absolutely nothing to do with Kollel or Touro College. There are plenty of other topics to take that Jew vs. Jew venomous garbage to.
The point of this topic and many of the comments in it is to advise people to be cautious when dealing with these traffic agents.
The bottom line is that they are a very unfriendly, rude, bitter, spiteful, and downright nasty group of people. They enjoy giving people tickets whether they deserve it or not. They enjoy, even moreso, giving tickets to Jewish drivers and remarkably they don't ask you if you're a Kollel person or if you went to college.
Stop selfishly turning every topic into a hatefest amongst our own people. If this was my site I would've banned your IP ages ago.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 03:53 PM Anonymous Says:
These traffic cops are out of control. I do not agree with what that fellow did, but I know someone who was trying to pull into a parking spot had their blinker on, and as they were on reverse two of these traffic enforcer cops came up to the car. One stood at the back of the car, while the other stood at the drivers side and started writing a ticket, claiming that the person was double parked. When the person asked what is going on the traffic cop started laughing and said, "What you can't afford to pay for such a ticket!!!" When the person contacted Simcha Felders office all they were told was oh, that happened to two other people today. They have to be stopped. What these traffic cops do is outrageous.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 04:29 PM Enough Says:
A writer in the know, said that he was asked politely to move. His answer was that when he finishes him call.
Well excuse me, doesn't anyone notice anything wrong here? He was asked to move, so move! He actually gave the driver a chance.
Don't say 'one minute, as soon as I finish this or that'. Are you all crazy?
You all missed the point.
He was a wise guy and I dont care how many people vouch for his eidelkit, he was blatantly disrespectful. His behavior was a true Chillul Hashem.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 04:38 PM anonymous says Says:
the cops out here have nothing better to do just give tickets! you could be sitting in the car and they come with the scanner and give you a ticket its crazy it never was like that we always got a warning move away....they are happy to give it to us yidden! dont you realize we basically have only shvartzis in our neighborhood giving out the ticketes..dont think that guy really touched that woman its easy todays day to make up a story!!!!!!!
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Jul 09, 2008 at 04:56 PM Chana Says:
MIMI, UR A SELF HATING JEW!!! we get it! they're JUST doing their jobs!! whatever!! its staring you in the face, BP and Crown Heights are crawling with ticket cops on erev shabbosis and yomim tovim!! its nauseating that pple like u stick up for them!! they hate you!! stop trying to be politically correct!! i live on a block in CH with mostly black pple the cops dont bother them at all for fear of some sort of violent retailiation, yet two blocks down the 'wealthy' and non-violent jews getting ticketed for everything and anything!!!
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Jul 09, 2008 at 05:05 PM Anonymous Says:
The common thead to all stories regarding tickets is that how dare they be given one. I remember the one where a man was driving in the bus lane and thought that the agent was anti-semitic for writing it.
Do the people on this blog know every single agent on the payroll? Don't they have a problem ascribing terms like dregs, belligerent, rude
and worse based upon some agents? What if the agents alleged anti-semitism was based upon the actions of a few that they believe applies to all Jews. Aren't you doing the same?
The bottom line is don't grab an agents pen, don't get into an agents face and don't break the law.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 05:12 PM Anonymous Says:
Th traffic cops are more numerous in BP because there are heavy commercial streets with a lot of clogged traffic , i.e. 13 , 16 and 18th aves., that's why. Not because they want to prey on Jews. Get over it. They put more of them in ALL commercial areas to prevent double and triple parkers who don't let traffic flow.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 05:15 PM Anonymous Says:
btw for all those "know it all" Simcha felder said it himself on Nachum segal's show that your allowed to stay inside your car at a pump and it is 100% LEGAL so all those that think he was disrespectful or made a big chillul hashem are all just ignorant about the law...... so yes i hope these shvartzes read our posts (i dont think they can read so i am not that worried)
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Jul 09, 2008 at 05:16 PM Anonymous Says:
G-D BLESS THE TICKET WRITERS COP IN BORO PARK, IF NOT FOR THEM,WE WOULD BE TOTALLY LOCKED UP, NO ONE COMES IN AND NO ONE LEAVES.PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN TO PARK "LEGAL", OTHERWISE THE WHOLE NEIBOURGHOOD IS GRIDLOCKED.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 05:18 PM Anonymous Says:
These cops have a job. Period. Obey the traffic laws and there should be no problem. Stop whining , stop acting like you own the streets by parking any way you see fit, dropping and picking up passengers in middle of the streets , next to corners , talking on cell phones as drivers honk at you to move ,stopping in middle of the street to chat , failing to feed the meter because you're only running into the store for a second and screaming at the agent when he/she gives you a ticket.etc. These are the rules. I'm sure there are some nasty cops but overall they won't bother you if you obey the law.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 05:18 PM cherrybim Says:
This is not a case of right or wrong, but it is a time when dancing ma yofis is in order. It's "Yes Madam/Sir" or "No Madam /Sir" and "Thank You". Say nothing more. Then pay the ticket. And then decide whether you want to waste your time and energy fighting it. Just go with the attitude that your number was called. Also, if they say move your car, consider yourself lucky for the warning and move immediately. By being obnoxious and stubborn, you make it worse for the next victim.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 05:21 PM Anonymous Says:
The bottom line is don't park illegally. The law is the law.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 05:26 PM Anonymous Says:
Tough luck..!! You're in golus...Just eat it and move on... Practice in BP and Willy what you preach against Zionists in Israel... Suck it up ... You're in golus...Pay the fines and don't grab pens...Take the discrimination and anti-Semitism with love and appreciation just like you want the Israelis to do... Bow down and take it like a Jew... You're in golus...Just like the Israelis.... Stop carrying on here... Obey the laws..DINA DEMALCHUSE DINA...
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Jul 09, 2008 at 05:33 PM Anonymous Says:
Somebody help me out. Isn't there a shvua ( Ksubos) not to start up with the goyim? Or doesn't that apply to Brooklyn?
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Jul 09, 2008 at 07:34 PM Anonymous Says:
I think we should come up with a plan that for 2 weeks in a row people should not drive or park by any meters, lets see what would happen if the city has no business for 2 weeks in a row.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 07:48 PM Anonymous Says:
why do so many people on this board have such an us vs. them mentality? Traffic cops target Jews? are you kidding? they target anyone and everyone because they are only interested in meeting their quotas. they don't care. And anyone who dares dispute the idea that the world is out to get the Jews is called a self hating jew for not going along with crowd. perhaps its this ridiculous attitude, which may have been appropriate hundreds of years ago when indeed it was us vs. them that fuels anti-semitism.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 08:47 PM Anonymous Says:
all he had to do was put a quarter in the meter,and shoin no ticket
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Jul 09, 2008 at 08:56 PM Anonymous Says:
I'm from the CH area, and I noticed that the choleras target the people who ran away from CH.
It's time to do teshuvah, and move back to Crown Heights, like the seventies.
lets take back our houses which were abandoned during that era. Together we can unite Willi and CH.
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Jul 09, 2008 at 09:06 PM teach Says:
does anyone know the law about dropping someone off at a bus stop and leaving. is that a ticket for stopping for someone to get out of the car if you are pulled over to the curb?
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Jul 09, 2008 at 09:36 PM bigwheeel Says:
Anons 3:32 & 3:33PM. I didn't say ALL! I said PART!
They SURE don't demonstrate HUMAN behavior when they see an elderly or disabled person disembarking from a car and hit the driver with a ticket in a an area that doesn't prohibit STOPPING!
Go back and read the Driver's Manual of The State of New York! Besides, I personally witnessed them coming in a store in BP (that has non-Jewish employees and a majority of non-Jewish clientele (customers, for the as-yet uninformed) to ask about double-parked cars, giving them a chance to move! A courtesy they don't extend to the majority of the [Jewish] population! Furthermore, the mention of Kollel and Touro was a retort to the (apparently self-conscious/self-hating) poster who brought it up!
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Jul 09, 2008 at 11:29 PM parkingmaven Says:
The law is as follows:
1. You can drop off and pickup passengers and merchandise in a No Parking zone. You may pick up or drop off passengers ONLY in a No Standing zone. You may not stop at all for any reason other than a traffic light at a No Stopping zone.
2. You may park at a fire hydrant from sunrise to sunset,unless prohibited by other specific signs, provided a licensed driver is behind the wheel and complies with istructions to move when told to do so by a law enforcement officer.
3. If you are in the car behind the wheel, regardless of what parking violation you are committing, the issuing agent must ask you for identification or at least for your name, insert that on the summons and hand it to you personally. Puting it on the windshield in the above case is improper service and the summons must be dismissed regardless of the actual violation committed.
4.It is never wise to get aggressive with issuing officers. Instead you are better off capturing his or her action on video or still picture to be used later in your defense.
5. You can also follow him or her to see how they write other tickets and use those pictures to bolster your winning argument.
6.For more information how to get your tickets dismissed or reduced legally you may contact me at parkingticketsrus@yahoo.com and leave your phone number and plate so I can respond to you.
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Jul 10, 2008 at 02:49 AM Anonymous Says:
I'm fascinated! Every time a Jew does something wrong you get posters crawling out of the woodwork to say "he wouldn't hurt a fly", "he's a nice guy", "he's a Baal Tzedekah/Chesed" etc etc.
SO WHAT??? If you lose it & get violent even for a second you deserve the punishment. As Cherrybim said, basically, keep quiet, take the ticket & LEAVE!! You can curse the agent from here to your front door, it won't go you any good. But at least you only pay through your pocket. His wife must be furious at him!! And don't believe everything he says either. there are always 3 sides to a story: yours, mine, & THE TRUTH!!!
We've all gotten tickets. Some I pay, some I fight. If I really believe I'm right I'll fight, but guess what? SOMETIMES I DESERVE THEM!! Like for talking on my cell & driving...I knew better. too bad, $90 fine.
Avraham K. was stupid. I hope he gets off lightly, but lawyers fees are a lot higher than the fine would have been.
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Jul 10, 2008 at 09:53 AM deepthinker Says:
THERE IS SOMETHING PERNICIOUS GOING ON IN BORO PARK.
We are experiencing a saturation "Ticket Blitz." It's not normal. The City is out to rob us of our money.
Have you noticed that every bank in the universe is coming to Boro Park? The City has noticed it too. They want to take their cut of the money.
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Jul 10, 2008 at 11:58 AM cherrybim Says:
Yes, and did you know that in Borough Park, there are minyanim at night in the ATM rooms of banks, i.e. 13th Ave.& 53rd Street (any ATM card gets you into the room from the street).
Unless you have permission from the banks for this (which I doubt since it prevents customers from using the ATM machines) it is gezel and your T’filos aren’t worth anything since it’s a mitzvah habah b’aveira.
Now what do you imagine would happen if someone tried to use the ATM during Maariv? We’d probably read about it in Vos Iz Neis and you’d have bloggers crying “Hey, anti-semites!”.
It’s no surprise that from this type of conduct comes the es kuimpt mir attitudes toward Traffic Enforcers, which can get carried away.
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Jul 10, 2008 at 12:51 PM Anonymous Says:
IF THERE IS 24 SURVELLINCE CAMERA IT SHOULDNT BE TOO HARD TO SEE WHAT ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE I SUGGEST HE MAKE A COPY OF THE TAPE BEFORE IT GETS LOST (AHEM) OR DOCTORED UP!!
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Jul 10, 2008 at 01:22 PM newbie Says:
I cant believe everyone is getting so heated up on this post. Its another parking ticket. 3billion are given out every day! I'm sure there are more important issues on here today that we can argue about!
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Jul 10, 2008 at 01:53 PM Anonymous Says:
It is time for Community Leaders such as Rabbi Frielich to sit down with Transportation Officials with statistics on parking violations issued to Boro Park versus other non Jewish areas across the city. If you don't have physical evidence to prove your case you should not lower yourself to provoke physical or verbal violence. It does not get you anywhere but financial loss. Lets face it 13th Avenue has always been a nightmare even as far back when it was 2 way traffic. You can't make this stuff up!!
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Jul 10, 2008 at 09:07 PM Anonymous Says:
I remember on a recent visit from Canada it was Xmas day. We had 13th ave all to ourselves No D.O.T., No commercial trucks only a few.
It was amechaya (great-living), if we could have this exercise every week or so.
We could have some menuchas hanefesh (relaxation).