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Israel - Four hundred religious Zionist emissaries will be sent around the world to promote aliya and love of Israel, all within the framework of Torah and the observance of mitzvot.

The Jewish Agency's Religious Zionist Shlichut Center, an umbrella organization uniting different organizations from within modern Orthodoxy, is sending off its emmisaries (shluchim) at an event at Yeshivat Netiv Meir in the capital's Beit Vegan neighborhood on Thursday hosted by the World Zionist Organization's Department for Religious Affairs in the Diaspora. Among the groups participating are Torah Mitzion, Ben Ami, Bat Ami, World Bnei Akiva and the Jewish Agency.

The movement has seen significant problems recently, particularly a decline in numbers and a struggle to define its ideology.

"The disengagement and Second Lebanon War have had a major effect on us, and it's been hard to promote a movement that isn't as strong as it used to be," Bnei Akiva spokesman Zvika Klein said on Wednesday. "But some of our shluchim were even residents of Gush Katif who were thrown out of their homes. They've said that they had to go on shlichut to continue feeling Zionist - that if they want to keep feeling connected, they had to do something."

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Others who have gone out to work as emissaries, Klein explained, were English-speaking professionals who have done well for themselves in the Jewish state, aiming to sway those who believe that moving to Israel means only a life of sacrifice in their careers and standards of living.

"We really feel that people who have integrated well into Israeli society can take two years and show others that 'hey, I'm not poor, I'm not struggling,'" Klein said. "People think that you have to be a teacher or a Jewish Agency worker to go on shlichut, but we have people who have worked in hi-tech, lawyers and businessmen."

Klein stressed that sending its representatives to locations around the world wasn't a new thing for the movement.

"Bnei Akiva has been sending shluchim for the past 50 years," Klein said. "Even before Chabad."

Asked if the religious Zionist movement's work would compete with the Lubavitcher movement, which has a representative in nearly every major city around the world, Klein said the two groups would likely be working together.

"Chabad goes to Jewish communities in order to strengthen them," he said. "We are going to promote aliya. But the two are not separate from each other; often times we do kiruv [religious outreach] work as well, in communities where there is little Jewish observance. Sometimes the Bnei Akiva shaliach and the Chabad shaliach are the only people who observe Shabbat."

But, Klein said, within his movement's goal lies a bit of a paradox.

"We're coming to a community to build it," he said. "But eventually we want to bring them to Israel, so it's an interesting problem."


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 Jul 09, 2008 at 08:24 PM jew Says:

make aliyah!!

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 Jul 09, 2008 at 08:24 PM Anonymous Says:

“Bnei Akiva has been sending shluchim for the past 50 years,” Klein said. “Even before Chabad.”

BULLOCKS!

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 Jul 09, 2008 at 09:04 PM a yid Says:

make aliyah and live under the anti religious zionist regime? the zionists just want you to make aliyah so they can have more power.

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 Jul 09, 2008 at 10:02 PM chabadnik Says:

Bnei akiva and other zoinist groups had been doing stuff like this well befor chabad in the 21 centrie chabad has made a huge impact but the zoinist had been sending people out to promote their cause for at least a hundred years may MOSHIACH come and bring all the yidden back to tzion our home

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 Jul 09, 2008 at 11:00 PM Matzahlocal101 Says:

Read about the Yaldei Teheran. With fury poured out by Bernard Maza has a pretty complete summary about it. Zionism isn't dead as long as there are frummer that support it. If all the frummer would have long ago rejected Zionism, and held fast to the G-d of their forefathers Moshiach would have long been here. Instead they rejected the G-d of their forefathers and embraced the secular anti religious Zionist goverment concerning which it is written "Gadol hamachtiyu yoser min hahargo"

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 Jul 09, 2008 at 11:01 PM Shlomo Says:

“Bnei Akiva has been sending shluchim for the past 50 years,” Klein said. “Even before Chabad.”

He HAD to say that, didn't he?

As Chabad myself, I have to laugh.

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 Jul 09, 2008 at 11:07 PM Anonymous Says:

Chabad is trying to build up yiddishkite as opposed to these yo-yos

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 Jul 09, 2008 at 11:45 PM ba Says:

Bnei Akiva are a group of people, who have a love for torah and mitzvos. you dont hear them bashing anyone who is not like them.

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 12:05 AM TRS Says:

If people don't like the current government in Israel, then they should move there and vote. Otherwise, they have no business mixing into another country's business.

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 08:04 AM Anonymous Says:

Here come the anti-Zionists again. Wooo-pee--do.

..If all the frummer would have long ago rejected Zionism, and held fast to the G-d of their forefathers Moshiach would have long been here. ...
Maybe it's just the opposite. Maybe , had the frum world accepted Hashem's message about the re-awakening of Zion instead of rejecting it, maybe Moshiach would already be here. Alas , the non-frum grabbed the message and ran with it. You guys could have done the same thing.. Or do I smell influence of the meraglim?!

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 08:05 AM Anonymous Says:

I'm sure they're sending Shlichim, not Shluchim. One is Hebrew, the other Yidish

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 08:06 AM Anonymous Says:

...Read about the Yaldei Teheran. With fury poured out by Bernard Maza has a pretty complete summary about it. ...
And you believe the 100% accuracy of these stories?? Did you research this on your own also , or do you swallow whole anti-Zionist propoganda??

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 08:16 AM Anonymous Says:

I suspect that the rabid , vicious talk from the frum anti-Zionist crowd is to cover up jealousy. They know that there is no place that Hashem wants us more than to live in Eretz Yisroel ... a place that the eyes of Hashem always gazes at...
They know that something happened since the turn of the century that influenced many Jews to make aliyah and build our holy land. They know that despite the irreligious attitude of the government , Torah and yeshivas have grown B"H. They know that nissim happenedd during all 4 Arab wars and even today there are nissim every single moment. They resent this, therefore they hate it. Too bad.. Hashem is slowly bringing His people back...with or without your help.

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 08:21 AM Anonymous Says:

..."Gadol hamachtiyu yoser min hahargo"....

Mmmm... So there are no hamachtiyas here in NY , only the Israelis are machtiyas, right? Here everything is cool.

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 08:26 AM Anonymous Says:

“Bnei Akiva has been sending shluchim for the past 50 years,” Klein said. “Even before Chabad.”


2008 - 50 = 1958. Chabad was sending shluchim in Russia, more that a hundred years ago...

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 10:24 AM Anonymous Says:

just for the record, the bal hatanaya, r' Shnenur Zalman, the first Lubavitch Rebbe, was sending his own chassidim, shluchim, to all corners of the world, he even had shluchim to Eretz Yisroel the same time as the Gra"h
The main goal was to bring yiddieskeit to all type yidden!

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 12:31 PM Chossid Says:

Chabad was first - but the Rebbe never cared about this fact. Every single Jew is a shliach of the Nasi, the Moshe Rebbeinu shebdoreinu, the Rebbe, and therefore a shliach of Hashem. He encouraged every single Jew to msaken haolam by using out gashmius lshaim shomayim and awakening the "chelek Eloka mimaal mamosh" that resides in every yid. This was all done in a spirit of achdus and regardless of our hashkofic differences.

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 01:55 PM lubavitch zionist Says:

to the haters, moshiach is not being stalled because of the medinah its because of stupid sinas chinum that you all have for other jews, all the different chabad houses we have in Israel, you think any of them, or any of the yeshivas out there would be up and going if it was under arab rule? chas v'shalom!!

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 03:24 PM Anonymous Says:

Just remember this from parshas Shlach:
The medina was stalled for 40 years because they didn't want it. VYIMUASOO BERETZ CHEMDUH. If even it were chareidi you'd still despise the medina.

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 Jul 10, 2008 at 09:36 PM Anonymous Says:

Can "Chossid" and "Lubavitch zionist" both really be lubavitchers? I think not. Number #1 is certainly a Lubavitcher - though #2, from his tone, is surely a zionist. Anonymous 3:24 - the concept of a chareidi medina is an oxymoron - a zionist medina cannot be chareidi or even "religious" as it is, by definition, against the will of Hashem.

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 Jul 11, 2008 at 02:25 AM Matzahlocal101 Says:

8:04,
"Maybe it's just the opposite. Maybe , had the frum world accepted Hashem's message about the re-awakening of Zion instead of rejecting it, maybe Moshiach would already be here."
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You'll have to forgive me if I disagree with you and side with all the gedolei Yisroel in all generations instead.
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8:06,
"And you believe the 100% accuracy of these stories?? Did you research this on your own also , or do you swallow whole anti-Zionist propoganda??"
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The book, written by a talmid of Reb Moshe z"l with is guidance and encouragement is not on zionism. It is on the rise and fall and subsequent rise of torah. Germane to the topic is the arrival of chareidi refugees to Israel. Maza can hardly be called a flaming anti zionist, and he consulted with Reb Moshe constantly during the writing of the book. I'll side with Reb Moshe on this one.
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8:16,
They know that despite the irreligious attitude of the government , Torah and yeshivas have grown B"H.
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Yes B"H Torah and yeshivas have grown. And therefore? I should love and praise the anti religious zionist government that seeks to uproot every remnant of Torah Judaism that they can?

"They resent this, therefore they hate it."

I resent the fact that Yidden were saved through the grace of Hashem??? And therefore I hate the secular anti-religious state of Israel???? Your train of thought has derailed.
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..."Gadol hamachtiyu yoser min hahargo"....

Mmmm... So there are no hamachtiyas here in NY..."
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Pirkei avos tells us that a chochom is sho'el ki'inyan umashiv kihalacha. Just as one would not praise a rebbe who is a childmolester or selling drugs to a yeshiva student EVEN though he teaches Torah also, one should not praise the secular anti religious zionist government of Israel, even though the government may do some good things also, as most Goyish countries also do good things for their citizens at some point. A country that insist on drafting girls, holding gay parades, chilul shabbos, selling steak lavan, in the name of democracy is not a Jewish state and should be recognized as a machtiyu, not as the great salvation of the Jews. Mikveh Yisroel Hashem. Not a secular anti religious country. Now, what does that have to do with a machtiyu in NY that we weren't discussing?
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"all the different chabad houses we have in Israel, you think any of them, or any of the yeshivas out there would be up and going if it was under arab rule"
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Were he still alive, Rav Raskin z"l, founder of the lubavitch yeshivas, and the Rebbe's shliach to Morroco for about 50 years would probably disagree with you.
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As far as the title Lubavitch zionist, you are very confused. I suggest you look up the Rebbe's well known letter in Sharei emunah. Were it not for the signature, you might have thought it was written by the Satmar rav z"l.

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 Jul 11, 2008 at 05:31 AM Anonymous Says:

1...Again , you cite no proof. I have to take your word that Maza consulted with R' Moshe and frankly I don't believe it.

2... There were gedolim who supported the building of Israel. There were gedolim pro and there were con. Not ALL gedolim were were con , as you write.

3.... Anti religion in Israel was a fact during the time of the shoftim and neviim. Read tanach and you'll see. The fact that Israel is not religious , and sometimes anti-religious should not preclude us from speaking unnecessary loshon hora about her.The point is that I support the state, the land and its people. Yisroel, af al pi shechoto , yisroel hu. You want religioun ?? MOve there and vote. It's a democracy. Who's Rav do you want to lead, yours? Well , I want mine , Chaim Yankel wants his , Buroch Shmendrik wants his. See what I mean?? Until Moshiach comes you and I won't be satisfied. I only ask you guys to be careful how you talk about G-D's country. Think hard if you mean it L'shno even if you quote psukim and show bekeyis.. The meraglim were big talmidei chachomim also.

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 Jul 12, 2008 at 05:36 PM Danny Says:

dont make aliyah, israel is better for arab than for jews. be proud to be a jew in the diaspora, at least you feel jewish.
btw i lived in israel. i came home. i dont feel jewish there.

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