Teaneck, NJ – Orthodox Gun Club Takes On Rabbinical Organizations’ Gun Control Stance

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    Teaneck, NJ – A New Jersey shooting club founded to cater to Shomer Shabbos gun owners is taking on two major Jewish institutions in its quest to have gun ownership gain greater acceptance in the Orthodox world.

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    Golani Rifle and Pistol Club was founded in 2003 to give both those looking for an extra measure of protection and those who enjoy shooting for sport the ability to hone their marksmanship skills as well as an opportunity to take part in gun club events, typically held on Shabbos.

    Golani, located is in Teaneck, has over 50 members throughout New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and serves only strictly kosher food at all events and its annual tzedaka fundraiser.

    Golani, whose stated mission is “promoting responsible use and ownership of firearms for the Jewish community,” is frustrated by the positions of both the Orthodox Union and the Rabbinical Council of America on gun control.

    A five page statement released by Golani on September 15th bearing the signatures of 12 rabbis from all across the United States slammed both groups for their published views on gun ownership. The OU expressed its support in April 2013 for federal legislation aimed at preventing gun violence, urging elected officials in Washington to pass proposed legislation that would ban assault weapons and enact other measures to assure greater safety in the wake of the Newtown, Connecticut school massacre.

    In its most recent resolution on gun violence in America, dated July 2014, the RCA said that it condoned gun ownership only in cases of self defense, favored restricting easy access to weapons and ammunition and that it discouraged any gun usage for sport or recreational purposes.

    Rabbi Steven Pruzansky, rabbi of Congregation Bnai Yeshurun in Teaneck was one of the rabbis who signed the Golani statement. A number of Rabbi Pruzansky’s congregants are Golani members and he considers himself to be an honorary Golani member. Rabbi Pruzansky, a member of the RCA, criticized both organizations for issued statements that were rife with ambiguity.

    “A resolution decrying gun violence is irrelevant,” Rabbi Pruzansky told VIN News. “Everyone is against gun violence. While the RCA’s statement made some conciliatory statements towards gun ownership it was widely perceived as hostile towards Jewish gun owners.”

    Rabbi Pruzansky noted that only ten percent of the RCA’s members voted on the gun violence resolution, saying that most members either abstained or voted against the measure.

    The OU’s stance on gun control focuses on what director of public policy Nathan Diament calls “common sense gun safety legislation.”

    Matters of policy at the OU on issues like gun control are developed through input received at the organization’s conventions, which are held every two years. The next convention is scheduled for the last weekend in December.

    “In a certain sense it is an open process,” explained Diament. “People from our member shuls are able to come to the convention and propose resolutions. On issues like this where this a diversity of rabbinic opinions, there is more of an open process, where people who are constituents of the OU are able to influence potential policies.”

    Golani member Josh Levy, a Teaneck father of three, said that the club offers a unique opportunity for Shomer Shabbos people to receive proper gun training.

    “We’re not pushing any particular line and we don’t have any particular stand apart from Jews and any other people should be able to learn how to use a gun if they want to,” said Levy. “It is a relaxed environment where anyone of any background can get training or simply learn a little more about shooting and self-defense.

    We want everyone to be prepared to do whatever they feel comfortable doing should they be attacked. We want people to be prepared to defend themselves, their families and their communities in a sober and prudent manner that is consistent with Torah law.”

    Noting that extreme vigilance is clearly required when handling firearms of any sort, Levy commented that safety is obviously of paramount importance, but that when handled properly, guns can literally be lifesavers.

    “We should be very careful with guns but Jews are a careful people,” remarked Levy. “Any reasonable adult could learn to do this safely. Knives, hammers, chainsaws, they are all dangerous things we use but when used properly they are fine. Guns are portrayed as instruments of murder but they can be instruments of protection, especially for those of us who are weaker when it comes to protecting ourselves against dangerous men. Guns are equalizers: they allow a 40 year old office worker like myself to defend myself successfully against three felons.”

    Levy argued that the RCA’s position on gun control runs counter to the biblical commandment to defend oneself against an attacker, a point that he feels both the RCA and the OU ignored in their respective resolutions.

    “They really didn’t consider anything like the full range of Jewish history,” said Levy noting that both Chanukah and Purim celebrate Jewish military victories.

    “They went ahead and advocated for greater restrictions based on a narrow and selective view of what Judaism teaches. I think that it is important for people to know that any adult Jewish man or woman is fully capable of teaching him or herself the basics of shooting and self defense. Obviously regular practice is encouraged, but this is a skill that can be acquired like any other basic life skill, like cooking or driving.”

    Rabbi Barry Kornblau of the RCA noted the organization’s disapproval of gun usage as expressed in its most recent resolution, extended only to those who use guns for recreational purposes.

    “In addition to halachic and legal issues, the resolution also addresses religious, moral, and cultural concerns,” said Rabbi Kornblau. “It describes weapons as a ‘necessary evil’ before the coming of the Messiah, and rejects activities which desensitize individuals to the deadly seriousness of war, killing, physical violence, and weapons. It protests the parts of ‘American culture which glorify’ weaponry.”

    Levy criticized the RCA for quoting Tanach in its resolution in an effort to lend halachic weight to its views.

    “What was particularly disturbing was the use of the a couple of selective passages from Jewish text to endorse a single position that favored disarmament when in fact, there is no solid basis in Judaism whatsoever for advocating for gun bans and discouraging Jews from owning guns,” said Levy. “With Israel and America both under attack, this was exactly the wrong thing to say and completely unrepresentative of a very rich commentary on the subject in Judaism.”

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    qazxc
    qazxc
    9 years ago

    Rab Moshe ztz”l said that government allowing private citizens to own firearms was crazy.

    shvigger
    shvigger
    9 years ago

    Chukas hagoy anybody. Is hunting next?

    sissel613
    sissel613
    9 years ago

    Such a not jewish sport. It’s not like kids playing with bows and arrows on lag biomer

    Lodzker
    Lodzker
    9 years ago

    to quote Chuk Heston, From my cold dead hands RCA!

    9 years ago

    #1 I would not question R’ Moshe’s position. But as long as goyim are allowed to run around with firearms, it’s silly for bnei Yisrael to refrain.

    #2 Goyim also drive cars recklessly. Should yidden consequently not drive?

    9 years ago

    Shooting is a great sport – I love it. And I have a good friend who is an expert shot (we are both sheitel-wearing bubbies) who has a permit in the state where she lives. She is a responsible gun owner, her guns (yes, more than one) are locked away safely, according to all standards and requirements. One thing is certain: her home is a lot safer than the naysayers’, and her family is protected.

    jack25
    jack25
    9 years ago

    The ‘Noda b’yuda’ writes in ‘tshuvas’ Shotting , Hunting is ‘Masie Eisov’!! The act of shooting is not Jewish at all!! Next weeks parsha Eisov was hunting yakov was learning!!

    joshlevy
    joshlevy
    9 years ago

    Thanks to Sandy Eller and Voz Iz Neas for the coverage.

    For those seeking the full statements by the RCA and OU on the one hand, and the Golani Club and twelve rabbis on the other hand, see:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/09/16/orthodox-rabbis-on-guns/

    For the rejoinders between the Golani Club and the chairman of the RCA committee, Elli Fischer, see:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/10/03/response-from-rabbi-elli-fischer-drafter-of-the-rabbinical-council-of-america-resolution-on-gun-violence/

    JCSHOULSON
    JCSHOULSON
    9 years ago

    When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.
    Learn to use a gun. Get a gun. Practice with gun.
    Save a life – maybe your own.

    One-Comment
    One-Comment
    9 years ago

    Carrying a properly registered gun is no different from any other form of self defense.
    Unless the OU or RCA has gained RUACH HAKODESH, their objections are irrelevant.

    9 years ago

    IF only thousands of Yidden in Europe had guns, the Holocaust might still have happened. However, many German, Latvian, Ukranian, etc. mothers would have had their nazi sons brought to their front doors in body bags.

    blubluh
    blubluh
    9 years ago

    I’m an advocate for law-abiding citizens owning firearms. However, in my view, the self-defense argument popular among gun ownership advocates promises more than it is likely to deliver.

    Even with proper safety measures and typical voluntary training, the average person may not do well in an actual combat situation.

    I can just imagine the homeowner, upon realizing burglars have entered the house, running to the gun safe, fiddling with the combination, loading up and taking aim while the intruder presumably patiently waits around in the name of fair play

    Police and military training involves much more than stationary target practice and more frequent and intensive training sessions than most civilians endure. The ability to quickly assess the risks in an armed conflict and then refrain from discharging a weapon requires a lot of experience and training, at least as much and as challenging as hitting a target, if not more.

    Some people may simply not have the emotional and physical strength to perform well under such circumstances no matter how much training they get.

    To make gun possession as widespread as, say, automobiles would be a very dangerous thing for society.

    Benny
    Benny
    9 years ago

    All this chachomim are wise now!
    When a thug will start breaking into your house – you will regret every post that you wrote here,
    and regret that you don’t have the way to protect your family!
    But it will be too late!

    sane
    sane
    9 years ago

    If polish Jews had guns on WW2 at least they could’ve taken some Nazis down with em.

    BuckyinWisconsin
    BuckyinWisconsin
    9 years ago

    I love it! Shomer Shabbos and Kosher catering gun club. Here in Wisconsin we shoot together Jews and gentiles alike.

    I own one long rifle, two shotguns, and 5 handguns in various calibers.

    Many men and possibly some of the women in my shul are carrying a firearm at all times, and it makes me feel a lot safer that they do so.

    ookamikun
    ookamikun
    9 years ago

    I find it hilarious how NYC and some tri-state frum Jews scream about guns being goyish and not doing like the goyim, yet that is exactly what they’re doing. Outside of tri-state, frum Jews owns guns and find gun ownership no stranger than owning a car. In NYC, most frum Jews go out of their way to imitate goyim and how they think.

    If any of you are interested, I help NYC Jews apply for a permit, explain what’s legal to buy and how, and provide training. Free of charge.

    ookamikun
    ookamikun
    9 years ago

    btw, you know who’d love a gun right about now? French Jews. But, while they do have access to guns, it’s a long and complicated process, and will likely land them in prison if used for self defense against anything other than a gun.