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Mr. Nuchem Rosenberg [white shirt] talking to the people in Williamsburg. This picture was taken a few years ago on the corner of Lee and Keap. Photo by Chaim Zayon from joeflix.blogspot.comMr. Nuchem Rosenberg [white shirt] talking to the people in Williamsburg. This picture was taken a few years ago on the corner of Lee and Keap. Photo by Chaim Zayon from joeflix.blogspot.com

Stamford Hill, London - Rabbi Nochum Rosenberg of Brooklyn, New York, and a controversial figure in its Williamsburg-neighborhood Chasidic community, was physically accosted this evening by dozens of angry Chasidim in London’s Stamford Hill, after he visited today that community to assist in a private matter.

Seeing a hostile situation about to erupt out of control, Rabbi Rosenberg managed to flee to a passing police car, which carried him away to safety.  He is currently being held under protection of the Met, London’s police force, until his departure and return to the U.S.

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Rabbi Rosenberg is well-known for helping establish mikvaos all over the world over the past 20 years.  His notoriety has spiked in recent months, however, due to his newly-adopted personal crusade against an internal communal problem which he claims goes ignored and untreated in the Orthodox community: molestation of children.

His advice/support hotline and call-in phone show, which he claims draws 10,000 listeners, has labeled specific prominent rabbis and educators as perpetrators, earning him a ban by several dozen New York rabbonim a few weeks ago on grounds of unnecessarily vulgar and graphic language, not to mention exposure of otherwise reputable individuals.

Mr. Rosenberg appeared a couple of weeks ago on the Jewish talk radio show by Zev Brenner talklinecommunications.com, where he vowed he will not stop his crusade despite a ban against him.

The 'Kol Korah' that was released a few weeks ago against Mr. RosenbergThe 'Kol Korah' that was released a few weeks ago against Mr. Rosenberg


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1

 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:23 PM Anonymous Says:

great!!!
thats what they had to do, we have to kick him out from EVERYWHERE, follow what our rabunim said

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:24 PM Anonymous Says:

what a shame he got away

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Dont get carried away leave the rabunim. dont be disrespectful

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:27 PM Anonymous Says:

ok let me get this straight the rabbonim banned him but are doing nothing about molestation ?i think those protesters have something to hide along with anyone one else against him

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:29 PM Anonymous Says:

i think this guys a hero..........why would someone disagree with what hes doing ?

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:30 PM Anonymous Says:

we shouyld carry him on our shoulders
for to long m9olesters have been protected bu our rabbis

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:34 PM Anonymous Says:

i listened last week for the first time what he says is right belive if chas vesholom somone touches my kid i would kill him so he has point all the stories have been brushed under the carpet for long enought

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:36 PM chester Says:

If he is exposing child molesters, why isn't there more support for him? Because he uses some vulgar language? Its a hell of a lot better than putting his hands down your kid's pants....

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:38 PM Anonymous Says:

the rabbonim have aright to disagree with his methods but why are they focused on him and not the molesters ? i think hes the lesser of 2 evils if at all

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Chester -

Keep it kleen

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:43 PM Anonymous Says:

07-24-2008 - 7:30 PM

that's what they were trying to do... lol...

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:44 PM Anonymous Says:

He mentally retarded

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:45 PM Anonymous Says:

He is mentally retarded

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:46 PM Anonymous Says:

07-24-2008 - 7:44 PM

they're the one's who get things done. shluchim min hashamayim

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:46 PM Anonymous Says:

we have to get him away from our comm. he brokes our CHINUCH and the power from the RABUNIM

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:47 PM Anonymous Says:

Whats bothering the "RABONIM" is that hes going after them for not doing their communal responsibilities.
So they do what all good "RABONIM" do and BAN HIM.
Now i wont disagree with you that he's a bit off the wall, but people like him is what it takes to get things to change - think "UOJ"/KOKO

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:50 PM Anonymous Says:

He is a hero i don't think any one did what he did in the last 50 years we should support him

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:51 PM Anonymous Says:

07-24-2008 - 7:46 PM

I think you should listen to Lipa's song "wake up"

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:53 PM Anonymous Says:

this is not the THORA way to do things
a lot lot lot of SIDEFFECTS . .....

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:57 PM hashems man Says:

DEAR READERS

Don't get fooled by all the captions ect' that people are saying!

I'm speaking in the name of KLAL YISROEL!!

WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MR. ROSENBERG'S ISSUES AT ALL,

THE PROBLEM IS ATTACKING RABUNIM, MENAHLEM, RUSHEI HAYISHIVOS, WITH, NIVUL PEH, WHICH IS CALLED ZEELUSE D'RABBUNUN!

THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR NO ONE WAS BOTHERED WITH THE ISSUE OF MOLESTATION THE ONLY REASON RABBUNIM CAME OUT AGAINST HIM IS THE WAY RABBUNIM ARE HARRASED PERSONLY

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Our rabbonim would have to agree that there is a molestation problem in the community. Even if we believe the numbers are not too great, that is not a consolation for those who have been victimized or are at risk of being molested. The community does a great job in protecting the perpetrators while there is zero protection for the victims. Someone who makes a complaint is bound to become a pariah, and is more likely to get punished for daring to accuse. Meanwhile, the accused gets protected by everyone.

Our Rabbonim will routinely address the situation in a general manner, noting that there is already a psak that the molester is a “rodeyf”, and that all forms of action can be taken against him in accordance with halacha. The trouble is that there is no application of it. When a Rav is presented with a case of Rabbi Ploni having done ***** to a student, the halacha of “rodeyf” is nearly never enacted. The victim is not believed, and no investigation is ever launched until it comes to the attention of law enforcement authorities. However, Oy Vey! One cannot report to the secular authorities – it’s mesira. So the victims continue on with either their silence and pain, or they risk bringing shame and rejection to themselves and their families by making the accusation.

Yes, there are false reports, and these are very destructive. But we err too far the other way, and the perpetrators are getting away with murder.

I do not know Nachum Rosenberg, and I only know of his work from the media and word-of-mouth. I do not know if he is conducting this mission in ways that are appropriate. But the Rabbonim who disapprove of his activities are doing nothing to accomplish the safety we need in ways that are halachically acceptable. I am not sticking up for Mr. Rosenberg, but I lay the responsibility at the feet of the Rabbonim who sweep this problem under the rug continually.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 07:59 PM Anonymous Says:

none of the RABUNIM are against his valid point just the NOT NICE WAY how he is doing it

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 08:03 PM Anonymous Says:

good he is a pig

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 08:08 PM 7:46 Says:

please thing in how much teens knows things that its VERY VERY VERY not good to know

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 08:12 PM dd Says:

If you listen to rhe hotline, you hear how he mockes peolpe without any realiable source.

He has no backing and has no evidence on the topics that he talks about.

Our chilren are listening to his porn stories, without their age being screened.

THE PROBLEM IS THERE I NO WAY TO STOP HIM.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 08:18 PM st42 Says:

There might be some problems within the community, in all communities, but this guy should NOT be the one giving mussar.

There is no way that a person that has a drop of yiras shomayim or yirei hachet would get up and talk so much minavles like him, and how does he know all this kind of minavles? I think the answer is crisp clear. He has a DIRTY MIND and i think he breaks the genuis records on having a dirty mind, now dont tell me its from sitting and learning a whole day, it comes from leidegien like many people that cant work either because if they work they would throw him out of the projects were he lives, so its easier to roam the streets, and when you get bored you open hot lines and you pick a juicy topic and boom.

You will not find a erliche yungerman or middle age man that works hard to make an honest living opening a hotline - they dont have the time for it, who has the time? the answer is clear.

Yes there might be problems there are problems everywhere, its like you drive on the highway there will ALWAYS be somebody speeding, but that dosent mean EVERYBODY SPEEDS, and forget the vulgar language being used by this guy rachmuni litzlon if this guy is suposed to be mesakin the world, moshiach should better come NOW ! Amen

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 08:51 PM Chanina jacobs Says:

Maybe he stands up for those induviduals who don't have a voice;
Nice of him to build Mikvo's

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 08:56 PM Anonymous Says:


London we are proud of you!

What we in Brooklyn didn’t achieve yet, you did SO quick & professional.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 09:04 PM Anonymous Says:

your all bad people.....

he means well.....

atleest he takes a stand , what do you do?

trying to silence him....

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 09:35 PM Nuchem Chelemer Says:

Is'nt he suppose to be in Charlton North Carolina where he is building 500 mikvas. The man is full of fantasys and delussions

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 09:37 PM Yidel Says:

Anonymous Says: who is bad and who is good? let's take a look at who is talking here.
I see 33 Rabunim from many circles of Klal Yisroel against 1 weirdo or sicko. who is right and who is wrong?
without going in to details, I would rather listen to a Ruv or Dayan than one person speaking clearly nivul-pah on a hotline. very simple

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 09:41 PM ANONYMOUS Says:

Please do not think or believe that these rabbonin/gedolim are not trying to do everything possible to stop child molestation.
But, there is a right way, and a wrong way to go about it. To announce names of adults in public without proper investigation, and allowing a person to defend himself is wrong. Even in the secular world a person is innocent until proven guilty.... but a court and/or jury of his peers, not by one man.
His tactics can destroy a person AND his entire family! That is no better than a perpretator.

They are also upset at his vulgar ways of talking about it.

BUT NOBODY IS TRYING TO HUSH UP THIS PROBLEM. YES IT WAS AVOIDED IN THE PAST, BUT NO MORE. ONLY IT NEEDS TO BE DONE CORRECTLY, NOT BY DESTROYING PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES ON AN ACCUSATION.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 09:42 PM st42 Says:

He calls himself Rav of Mikvas..... well he knows a few halichos in mikvoas that makes him the rav of mikvaos?, why arent those rabbonim who gave out seforim on mikvaos the rav of mikvoas... so the Rav of mikvaos is most of the time roaming the streets of williamsburg, I never knew you can be a rav like that.

And it goes deeper lets assume he knows alittle about mikvoas, now if somebody is for example a bookbinder why cant he call himself rav of the international bookbinders? or if someone knows how to mop a floor well, why cant he call himself the internationsl rav of the moppers? there is no difference, he knows alittle about mikvaos and the other guy knows alittle about bookbinding, and mopping, NONE of the above know the whole entire shulchan aurach, lo oilenu if he is the one being mashpia musar for all the erliche jews worldwide.

Its about time Moshiach comes soon, because this world is getting sicker and sicker, and its just getting harder to bring up erliche doires and klal yisroel needs alot of rachmim AMEN.

Yes there are problems in ALL communities people need help, and we should help the people in need, but the way he goes about it, is not the proper way, and lets not forget the way he talks on all the rabonim that dont agree with him.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 09:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Nuchem was involved in a serious car accident at Bedford & Wilson. He was not hurt because he was in North Carolina.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 09:48 PM stamford hill Resident Says:

Everybody here knocks Nuchem , but no one even addressed the issues of molestation. Find me one letter from one chassidsher rov or rebbe telling us and admitting to us that YES there is a problem and here is how to take care of the prob;lem. Nuchem is the only one speaking out because no one is doing a damn thing about it. Bottom line ~When it hurts you scream .~ You wanna shut him up then come up with a solution . First solution is addmitting to the problem.
Nuchem Your the BEST. I would switch any day with your olam habah!

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 09:50 PM Anonymous Says:

It this guy was just a Meshiguner, no one, especially not the Rabbonim, would pay any attention to him.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 09:54 PM Anonymous Says:

I don't know this macher, but I could tell you that some of the rabonim on the list, are very involved in community matters including the handling of child molesters.
So its obvious that he has an agenda with the rabonim, and he is using the molestation cause as a front.
He needs major petch!

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 10:14 PM arom Says:

can we make sure not to let him back to nyc

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 10:17 PM st42 Says:

Anon 9.50 writes if this guy was just a mishugener nobody would pay attention to him, you are danm right, but how many mishiguem do you know that open up a hotline not to address a problem - which there are many ways how to address the issue - but to talk minavles !

So whats the point you are trying to make? that because the rabbonim say something about him that means he is something?

He is a ULTRA meshuginer, so now you know a mishugener with a hotline is a ultra mishugener - there is no EXCUSE for his hotline and what he mentions in that hotline, he has a dirty mind and I can say two things.

1) I think he needs help, 2) I wonder what would happen if a private invetigator is hired to follow this guy from north carolina to the streets of moscow, I wonder what they would find out about this guy, if he feels he has a right to bashmutz individuals and rabbonim in public, why can we go after this guy and lets see what would happen.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 10:18 PM Anonymous Says:

Give me his address so we can do to him what he's doing to our fellow raboonim.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 10:21 PM 7:46 Says:

he is not so crazy that we have to talk so much about him drop him in finish

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 10:25 PM Anonymous Says:

Everybody here knocks Nuchem , but no one even addressed the issues of molestation. Find me one letter from one chassidsher rov or rebbe telling us and admitting to us that YES there is a problem and here is how to take care of the prob;lem. Nuchem is the only one speaking out because no one is doing a damn thing about it. Bottom line ~When it hurts you scream .~ You wanna shut him up then come up with a solution . First solution is addmitting to the problem.
Nuchem Your the BEST. I would switch any day with your olam habah!

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 10:31 PM Fed up Reform Jew Says:

So this man is trying to identify criminals who prey on your children....and your solution is to physically attack him?

Can someone explain the morality behind that?

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 10:38 PM 7:46 Says:

are you CRAZY that he is the ONLY ONE that its hurts `When it hurts you scream`

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 10:56 PM destro613 Says:

I notice the rabonin are still not addressing the issue of molestation because they would have to "listen" to loshon harah to believe it plus it's much easier to ignore the problem if no one is helping the victims to be heard

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 11:14 PM Anonymous Says:

Great job London !!!!! Thanx for the Kidush Hashen. don't be afraid if this sicko.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 11:16 PM Gefilte Fish Says:

613. if the rabanim don't take care of it publicly that means that they don't take care at all? there are ways to handle this without ruining the lives of the pervs whole family and educating 12 year olds.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 11:23 PM einyid Says:

Unfortunatly the rabonim have, and are cotinuing to do absoloutly nothing about the REAL issue of child molestation in our moisdes. I'm speaking of close personel expirience of a family member of mine that was molested, and is currently fighting with the Moised to throw the molester out. To all the people out there making light of this subject matter, You should never know what this does to a child, but do your children a favor and educate yourselves on this horrendous issue, you will be singing a different tune once you do. Nuchem, you give a voice to the voiceless. Keep up your good work.

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 Jul 24, 2008 at 11:24 PM Anonymous Says:

Who are these people that signed the Kol Koray? I don't see any Rosh hayeshivos with Daas Torah signing their name!

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:05 AM Anonymous Says:

11:24 You are right. The Rosh Yeshivas who deal with boys all day,if they think that Rabbi Rosenberg is wrong they should sign against him, not sons of Rebbas!

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:06 AM Anonymous Says:

to 11:24
I don't know about your daas Torah but it seems you don't gave any daas at all.
No Daas Torah signed it? who do you think you are to make away with all those Rabanim?
And by the way, the 2nd signature is a well-known Rosh Yeshivah. Learn how to read!

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:07 AM Anonymous Says:

Before anyone is to bash their local rabbi.
Remember you could jeopardise your very own friends case.
There are some rabbi's who are involved with helping victims of sensitive matters. We have to respect, and appreciate the work some of our raboonim give themselves over.
So before we are quick to judge our rabbis, think of the damage you might be doing.
Respect your friend, and your rabbi. when your rabbi gives-out a derosha about molesters we should all take it very seriously, because they are very involved with the victims your friends who we don't know that are victims.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:32 AM Anonymous Says:

go london go - thanks for showing us not to be scared from his big mouth....

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:35 AM Anonymous Says:

In the Kolko case, a well-known rav (no names) was called in -- and he ended up ruling that there had been NO sex abuse, and he ordered the Beth Din investgating the case to drop the whole matter. He also betrayed the victims and their families who spoke to him in confidence, relaying their identities to the school's principal -- who then leaned on them to stop talking, OR ELSE. This is the kind of worse-than-useless do-nothing "rabbinic leadership" Rosenberg wants to light a fire under. But I guess it's always easier to just kill the messenger . . .

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:37 AM Anonymous Says:

12:06 "Where are the Big Rosh Hayeshivos with Daas Torah" I'm not saying that those people who signed don't have Daas torah, I just don't know who they are. I do know the only former Rosh yeshiva that signed Reb Moshe Green he has Daas Torah. My point is those that deal with the effected children should voice their opinion, Not figures that we don't know who they are. Are any of the people that signed in Chinuch (Besides Reb Moshe Green) ???

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:46 AM yiddish Says:

Yes! we all know this is a problem, But this kind of conversation needs to be held in quiet because if this subject is being held in public-open to our children- it ruines much more then it helps VD"L

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:59 AM Anonymous Says:

I can't belive some of the comments here. First remember Hashem runs the world. Don't we have a shulchan aruch? A child under bar mitzva has no nemanus. Any parent can attest that children have a different "perspective" then adults. And even when the accuser is over bar mitzva are there witnesess? To many people had their lives ruined because of an accusation. No, I'm not naive I am sure that some of these allegations are true. However each case should be handeled by rabonim and not by some lay man looking for blood. I heard the Zev Brenner interview and I think it was one big exaggeration.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:05 AM Anonymous Says:

to yiddish:
So you are one of those believers to keep everything hidden and swept under the rug?

I THINK MOST PEOPLE WILL AGREE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE OPEN, THE KIDS NEED MORE EDUCATION AND AWARENESS, so when a rebbe tries to touch them they will know what is considered appropriate and what is not.

We kept things quiet long enough!!
Just my opinion, you can disagree.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:06 AM Anonymous Says:

I read most of the posts here. Wow!. Sounds very hateful.
I had to come to a conclusion that most of the haters either never heard his message or they have a mind so filthy that every word they hear is menuvoles.
Ever heard that in a perticullar chasidus a bochur is not to say "penny"? That is because a penny is made of copper, of which you make pots, in which you cook fish, whis is being served at weddings, and a bochur is not to talk about chasennes. These people hear only menuvolus.
Now come on.
Why did the Rabbis that came out so strong against him wait until now? They've been trying for as long as I can remember to stop him.
Second question; He never had that many foes. What happened now?
The answer is Avodim Hoyeenu.
He touched a topic hitting the nail on the head for too many of us. Too many of us were hit hard. He exposed exposed so many of us by exposing (in the open) the counrty phenomenon.
Once some of us fealt so hurt and want to rip him apart, now was the right time for some Rabbis to jump on the band wagon and together do the job they always wanted to do.
In no way do I agree this is the way to talk about Rabonim, but he is talking about issues important to our community, important that the Rabonim should take charge. The way it seems is that they have an issue with Nuchem Roosenberg and not with the issues. (I think I just quoted Nechem).
Bottom line. Granted he is a meshugener. But he also knows what he's talking about. All the guilty ones know what he's talking about.
At the end he will win his case, and will force the rabonim to take charge o the issues.
If the only problem is that he is saying what children shouldn't hear, well well. Those who understand what he is saying knew it without him. Those who don't know it will never figure out what he's talking about. the only thing is what we all know. "Ofen Ganev Brent des Hittel".

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:08 AM Anonymous Says:

ANON1259:
"A child under bar mitzva has no nemanus"

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

If your 11 or 12 year child old told you that he was molested are you going to say to him that you don't believe him?

Maybe you should consider putting your kids in foster care now.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:12 AM Anonymous Says:

No child ever became a victim of child abuse and failed to inform on the abuser IF the child had been educated. As a victim of 2 rabbi molesters I can qualify what Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg is doing. Parents AND children NEED to be educated.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:21 AM Anonymous Says:

The London Police will not be as shy as the NYPD to investigate. The Stamford Hill Chassidim may find that they have achieved he opposite of what they were seeking to do. Now there may be a wide ranging investigation of their community.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:23 AM Anonymous Says:

To all those who are quick to judge others I'll tell you a personal story. A few years ago I got a phone call "Hello, I'm Rabbi M. I'm looking for information about a boy chaim Q. I heard he was in your class a few years ago." I recalled that indeed this boy was in my class and was one of the harder boys I ever had. He was hyper, lied , stole etc. I knew he had left the yeshiva after my class So I assumed that this Rabbi M. was looking for info in order to place him in a yeshiva. After I gave my info. he tells me, "This boy accused his rebbi this year of inappropriate behaviour, I assume you would say we can't trust him?" I felt used, but I did see that just because someone accuses doesn't mean it's true.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:25 AM Anonymous Says:

07-25-2008 - 12:59 AM is a AM HaAretz of stupendous proportions. Both the RAMBAM and the MAHARAL as well as todays poskim like R' Elyashiv and R Wosner (Sr. & Jr. Monsey) wrote in great detail that in instances like these where the event ONLY takes place between 4 eyes do children AND women have full Ne'emunus like an adult. Furthermore, the Rambam and all poskim unanimously agree with the gemara's psak that a Kolo D'Lo Posok is as good as 2 witnesses to determine ones guilt and/ or trigger the directive of L'Meichush Meboya. Sadly, nowadays where rabbonim follow in the ways of those rabbonim and dayonim mentioned in the last perokim in Mesechte Sotah, and pander to political and monetary interests (Pnei Hador K'Pnei Hakelev - see Artscroll's elaboration) we have few leaders to show us hadroche in these thorny topics. Enter Rabbi Rosenberg who is a "B'Mokom Sheain Ish.....

A In-depth Vos Iz Neias Editorial would really be appreciated by many on this issue.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:29 AM Anonymous Says:

I cant follow the post of the rabbi who got a phone call etc. and came to that incoherrent conclusion. Can someone please enlighten me. If I get what he is saying he himself borders on deranged and should consider prompt retirement.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:32 AM monitcello resident Says:

to stemford hill resident did you ever come acros a koil koira or psak or letter from a ruv from the past 2000 yers in a shala vtshiva sifer about molestation
its not a problem from the last 10 years

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:35 AM Anonymous Says:

To 1:08 WHAT YOU DON"T BELIVE IN THE TORAH. a child has no nemonus. That dosen't mean you don't take precautions or do what you feel is right for your child. You can belive your child but he other person has rights too.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:44 AM Anonymous Says:

To 1:29 I don't know what you didn't understand about my post. The kid wasn't trustworthy in my class and I wouldn't belive him if accuses anyone of these acts

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:55 AM Anonymous Says:

So if a kid misbehaves, even rutinely, he is unreliable to come crying that he was molested? WHERE did u get that halachic psak? Molesters, who in the vasy majority are cunning groomers and manipulators have free access to kids underperforming in school because idiot mechanchem like you will throw away a neshoma on a whim not based on any halachic or even psychological fact. Children are not inherently evil and CANNOT make these things up. Heartless rebbes like you cause situations that the torah says "Tzak Hana'ara V'Ain Mosheea Lo."

Rachmona Litzlon from rebbes like you! I now can justify my initial suspicions of your devious and twisteed reasoning. THINK if it was your own vilde chaya of a son.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 02:34 AM Anonymous Says:

The first I've ever heard of this man is here & now. So I have a couple of questions.

What "private matter" in London caused him to be run out of town? If it's "private" how come all those protesters knew he was there?

What on earth was he doing/saying in London that he had to run to the police for safety?

The Metropolitan Police can't protect a paper bag, so why are they so worried about hiding him until he returns to the US?

A comment. Child molestation is wicked, beyond evil & we owe it to victims to get these animals off the streets. But NOBODY should openly accuse anyone of anything without 100% proof, especially a non-professional. Is this man a vigilante or working from his own problems?

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 04:10 AM moshele Says:

can someone out there just share with us what exactly happened in london? why was this lunatic there in the first place? let's hear from someone in london

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 04:14 AM moshele Says:

I heard that he told someone in london that he's stopping his hotline, for sake of his family

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 06:35 AM london Says:

נחום ראזענבכרג , דער ריזיג בעל דמיון האט זיך נישט געראכטען אויף אזא וועלקאם אין די שטילע שטאט לאנדאן
הינטערטע יודען זענען אין נאכגעלאפען אין נאכגעשריגען פארדארב נישט אינזער קינדער ,
אין די שטאלצע נחום , די וואס רעדט כל דבר אסור אויפ אלע רבנים פין אלע קרייזען האט אפגעגאפעלט ווי אזא לאזער , א טשיקען , אין א קאווארד,
איין מזל האט ער געהאט אז עס איז פינקט אריבער געפארען א פאליציי וואס האט אין אוועק געפירט אין א האטעל מחוץ למחנה

כן יאבדו

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 06:39 AM london Says:

אין נישט פארגעסען

נעקסטע וואך וועט ער פארציילען אויפען האט ליין אז ער איז געפארען קיין בורנמעס(א רעזארט ארט א שעה פין לאנדאן )צי בויען א מקוה............... אין מער האט איהם פרובירט צי שטערען

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 06:59 AM Anonymous Says:

Thanks, London, the Yiddish helped a lot...NOT.

Can someone please translate for the uninitiated like me who got some of it but not all?

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 07:27 AM Anonymous Says:

For those of you saying you can't accuse anyone without 100% proof and you can't trust a child, etc. What do you expect? Two reliable eyewitnesses that actually see a child getting molested? That's never going to happen. You're pretty much giving free reign to the molesters to do whatever they want.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 07:30 AM Anonymous Says:

what is he a proffessional molester ?

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 07:50 AM Community activist Says:

So HITTING a jew is the solution to every issue in our community's? the people having the problem with with the hotline why are you listening to it? its like the Eiruv no one is telling you to listen to the hotline as no one is forcing you to carry in the eiruv.

The issues he is acknoledgeing are issues that everyone in our communitys are walking around with in thier hearts for a long time, people are affraid to talk because whoever did try to talk was called all kinds of names thier entire family was named to be ashamed in the community.

Now what happens to a child that gets mullested the satistics have proven that those individuals become the future mullesters themselves, Why? #1-They never get the right help #2-they where trauma tized, so basicly by not proventing our children from getting hurt of this dangereous Sickness we are accumilating a future of harmfull individuals.

Suggestion to the problem:
Every community should put together a TEAM -"NOT A MISHMERES HATZNIOS" a team thats ready to help people who have these issues, a mollester is a sickness in can't be cured but it can be controled with specail threpy "IT WAS PROVEN" in the past, the team must follow up and make sure the indivdual should go for thier treatments as directed by a proffesional, if that individual refuses to go for help MOST Rabunim pasken you should turn them over to the POLICE it isn't called mesira because this individual is a danger for the children in the community, these sitations can provoke to violance if the child wont agree the child can get badly injured.

So now is the time to think of how to help the children in our community it is not our job or even the rabunims job to attack someone who was trying to make a point but is not proffesional on this job LETS NOT GET CARRYD AWAY THE PERSON SAID HIS POINT NOW WE GOT TO ACT!
ACTION IS REQUIRED IN EACH AND EVERY COMMUNITY

LETS DO THE RIGHT THING THE HOTLINE WONT BE THE ISSUE ANYMORE

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 08:28 AM YANKEL Says:

Nuchem Is a HERO for exposing molesters ,,its a shame that rabonim are banning him,,

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 08:34 AM Annonymous Says:

we should all be concerned about child molestation.
However just putting out a sign and setting up a
child molestor busters busuness is dangerous.
we have proffesionals Like Rabbi Horowitz and Pelcovitz that deal with these issues with discretion and care for the acussed and acusser.
this is not the dark ages where you point a finger and conjour up a mob to burn a person at the stake. a radio show about frum molestation with 10,000 listners is a mob.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 08:52 AM Anonymous Says:

I do not know this man, don’t believe I’ve ever met him, have not listened to his hotline, and do not understand the accusations against him with the ban that bore so many signatures. However, I am left feeling very uncomfortable. We are falling into the trap that has plagued us for so many years. We are paying more attention to the messenger and not to the message. I do not even care whether Rosenberg has a personal agenda here. The reality is that he is trying to address the problem of molestation directly, and this frightens too many people. Why?

It is high time that the community pledge to protect children, investigate those accused of doing such disgusting things that murder a child’s spirit and emotional life, and utilize the criminal justice system according to halacha. I feel bad for any person, rebbe or parent, who is accused, as their reputations become mud, and their families lost standing. And we need a system that takes the steps for safety without putting things out to the public, since false accusations are also murderous. But once the steps to investigate are taken, the guilty parties should get the brunt of whatever there is available. False accusers should get theirs, and molesters should get theirs. We are doing the foolish thing of assuming that every accusation is false. No. Some are, and that is why accusations should be made privately, investigated without the media and blogs, and reputations protected. Once guilt is verified, we need the courts to help insure that the perp is labeled and registered, banned from sensitive jobs, and to heck with his reputation. We may feel bad for the family, but that was his doing, not ours.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 08:59 AM Monsey Resident Says:

The problem with Nuchem is that HE and only he can do it right, here in monsey the local rabbonim years ago asked him for advice in remodeling/rebuilding the mikvah on maple ter. everything was Ok, 2-3 years later they redid some thinks again and didnt use Nuchem, he right away called and HARRASED them personly, quoting Rabbi Bransdorfer from the Eida that told him the mikvah in monsey is not Kosher, the rav hamachshir called right away rav bransdorfer to verify whats wrong and was told by rav bransdorfer that he never spoke to Nuchem about the monsey mikva, when Nuchem was confronted with the question why he was laying he said me ba me maybe it wasnt rav bransdorfer but is was another rabbi, the second problem with him is his lushon is very UNCLEAN and he knows it, a lot of times when you call his hotline he starts with this comm. "if yuor a bucher or miedel that is not merried please hang up" i hope he gets his acts toghether, good day.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 09:03 AM Rachel Says:

We have GANOVIM,MOLESTERS,and Reshoim running on the loose in the frum community.The fact of life is that Rabonim are powerless and not trained on how to handle a MOLESTER. A memeber of my family was molested and the Molester who admitted was begging that his name should not be made public or that we should call the child abuse services. The rav that was involved also asked that we should be quiet..What do you think happened? not a year went by and a another child victim by the same molester. We should treat a molester as a Rapist that gets arrested ,convicted and Jailed if proven guilty.This is a criminal act and Mr Rosenberg is a true Zadick for exposing these misfits

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 09:12 AM mnachem Says:

thank LONDON for keeping in forst the rabunim and to give chyzuk for the dass toyrah

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 09:20 AM a yeshiva melamid Says:

two points

many comments relate to the rabonim that signed on tothe paper against Mr. Rosenberg. However what many of you are not aware of is tha fact that many of these "kol Koreh" are signed not by the rabonim but by rabble rousers that with out consent sign the robonum's names. or worse they lie to the gedolim as to the content of the "kol koreh" to get them to sign.

two

many gedolim don't want to get involved. when the novominsker was presented by personal testamony and hard evidence of a margulis cover-up he stated it is a Flatbush problem and he is a boro park rav. well if that is the case why is he going on the attck on Mr rosenberg.?>?

The gedolim today are affraid to take a stand on any issue and are "lemming" like in public statements. perhaps they represent the dor they are in but most of them are like the gedolimthat we do when relieving ones self

this is from a long time mechanich that has seen the level of action diminish to the point that are part of the problem

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 09:45 AM a chasid Says:

I've known R' Rosenberg for many years and give some cridibility to his claims. But I also know what the Halacha says about someone being accused of misdoings."There has to be credible witnesses" Did he or any other "expert" question any of the accusers? What about the accused? Were they confronted? Did anyone inquire as to what they have to say in their defense? Or is this a case of Character Assassination? This question is really being addressed to the Rabbi. And as far as his public comments on the Radio, and the threating of "Messirah", there is also a halacha which states, that; "Threating "messirah" is also Halachaicly prohibited.....

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 09:48 AM avrohm Says:

I've personally been involved in a child abuse case, and ALL Rabbonim that were approached, were unwilling to accept the facts & admit to this community-wide problem. Rabbi Avrohm Twersky has been complaining about this issue for years.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM Anonymous Says:

he is 100% right all the guys against him call me when ur ganna have ur kids in yeshiva ur ganna be the 1 calling him i come from there every1 is just scared 2 come out an say something atleast support the 1 that has the guts 2 do it 4 u

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 11:47 AM moshe Says:

He came to London to support some families who have children who have suffered at the hands of a so called choshiver mechanech who has been molesting children but the kehilla that this mechanech belongs to are trying to sweep the whole issue under the carpet by ousting nochum

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 11:50 AM morris Says:

unfortunately, our rabbanim (some, but too many) won't take an interest in a subject unless it lines their pockets or brings them greater koved.this guy is a hero and the cattle in our community listen to and do whatever their particular rebbe instructs them to do. no common sense in evidence anywhere!

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 11:53 AM Anonymous Says:

Hey guys

This guy is the hero of our generation the only jew who cares so much about our children....... Lets help him continue doing the good work that he is doing.




THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR NO ONE WAS BOTHERED WITH THE ISSUE OF MOLESTATION THE ONLY REASON RABBUNIM CAME OUT AGAINST HIM IS THE WAY RABBUNIM ARE HARRASED PERSONLY

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:13 PM Rabbi Lebovic Says:

Rosenberg warned on his hotline he's comming to london to take care from a certain sick men who is a danger. He is not the right men to deal with, al pi Torah. He's making the youngsters to much aware,and by exagerating facts,he makes look like aroyos were C'V common in jewish communty,who became C'V legitimate. Only maskilim attacked openly Rabbinical authority's.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:16 PM Anonymous Says:

NUCHEM, Yehee chelki imoch.
No one has answered any of your questions. Until they answer or do what in necessory to do, just keep up the pressure upon them.
They're talking to the daughter thinking about the daughter-in-law.
None of them are angry on the menuvolis or otherwise. They are angry because they were cought with their hands in our pockets.
KEEP IT GOING.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM deepthinker Says:

There are legitimate problems that need t obe addressed, but, unfortunately, this man chose to forge ahead on his own without any Torah guidance, so he messed-up.

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 01:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Nachum don't give up!!!
GO NACHUM GO

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 05:05 PM a klein Says:

B'H my son was saved from being molested, by jumping out of a car , but shomrim wouldn't divulge any info because he was a newlywed and they didn't want his wife to find out

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 Jul 25, 2008 at 05:37 PM Elisheva Says:

Gee, did the London Rabbinic Community forget about the mitzvah of hachnassat orchim ?
I thought that if a stranger comes and needs a place to stay, food, etc., we must provide him shelter, etc., and see him on his way in a protective manner, not assault him!
The laws of hospitality to a stranger absolutely applied here. He couldn't exactly go home to sleep!
They can forget about inviting their funding source down the street to Shabbos meals if they treat the proverbial stranger so badly.
So we see again, the "rabbis" refused to perform a mitzvoth, failed in Gemilleth Chassidim, and thus did a very bad thing.

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 Jul 27, 2008 at 01:09 AM Anonymous Says:

i think what we need to do is to stop shelting on nuchem and look at both sides, now there is alot molesting going on by us and it is a terrible secuna for our kids, these kids can get damaged for life,now i wouldnd say that beacuse one nuchem rosenberg with a kutcma is against 33 rabunim that we have to listen rather to the rebunim, no no not in these days, there is alot of politics involved with each indvidual rabbe today somebody is afraid of his career some of money and some of their own past shmutz, but from the other hand when u listen to nuchem u can see right the way that he is not doing this lshem shumeyim, u can see that he realy enjoys the whole chazerei,so what we have to do is to build up a good vaad from a few serios balei batim and start doing the right thing without any hotline and stuff like this,

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 Jul 27, 2008 at 03:38 AM Anonymous Says:

So the issue boils down to What's Better: A Loose Tongue or a Loose Zipper? The Rabbonim try to control the loose tongue with concrete evidence presented to them. They provide no basis in the Kol Koreh for negating his authority on mikvaos. There are countless neshomos in Klal Yisroel that were were initiated with Taharas Hamishpacha due to his credit and efforts. Who can take the responsibility to be Moitzi La'az against this, whether or not there is a valid reason to currently ostracize him from our midst for his loose tounge.

I can understand that there is a lack of concrete evidence presented to the 33 Rabbonim regarding alleged molesters on an individual basis, but where and when will they take action to protect the phsical, mental and emotional well being of our youth in Kedusha & Tahara, from the molesters and perverts in our midst? The Rabbonim's blatant disregard and carpet sweeping of this issue forces it into the secular courts and perpetuates the Chillul Hashem.

There are perverts that are convicted offenders in our communities that are publicized on governmental and other public offender lists. Enough of them have enough reliable evidence to past muster in Beis-Din as well. Not a single one of them has been publicly ostracized by a Rabbinical Authority and/or Kol-Koreh. Why start with an individual that has spent a lifetime trying to help the public and be Mizakeh Es Harabim? Everyone knows that his intention (questionably misguided forum and manner) is to protect our youth and not to hurt the innocent. It's time to take diligent action and thoroughly investigate allegations, particularly against teachers and others entrusted to care for our children. We can't blindly protect alleged offenders. We must minimally take protective measures that are so drastic that they can guarantee that an alleged molester will never again have the opportunity to repeat such behavior. Halachos of Yichud are substantially more restrictive for individuals that are Choshud on Arayos.

It is a sad state of affairs when our schools are predominantly concerned with their financial stability and 'reputation', rather than with the mental and emotional safety and stability of the students and FACULTY in our institutions.

Let us hope that we can thereby achieve the will of Hashem: V'Hoyo Macahaneinu Kodoish.

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 Jul 27, 2008 at 10:23 PM a chasid Says:

OK Anonymus; I'll grant you that Rabbanim are obligated to take action against these molesters, if it's only to save these innocent Nashamos. But who are they and how are the Rabbanim supposed to handle this. Let's not lose control of ourselves. We're being Don Dinei Nefushos in both directions.

And what happened to the Vaad Mishmeres Tzniyos. I know in Boro Park they are quite effective in getting certain Rabbanim to cooperate! Why can't we have them do the same in other Heimishe communities as well?

My point is: Giving R' Nuchem the credit due him, he is still only a Yuchud and no one may act alone without Daas Torah. Rabbi Dr. Twersky doesn't need my endorsment as an authority in Paskening in such matters. If he would really believe that this problem is rampant in our community he would surely raise his voice. I read his columns and have never come across any mention!

On second thought, instead of making so much noise and angering the Rabanim, Rosenberg should contact those Rabbanim who are not afraid in taking action against predators and child molestors and present his case to them, if his intentions are genuine and is really only seeking to save this poor innocent soules.

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 Jul 30, 2008 at 04:06 PM Moshe Says:

שקרן, שקרן, שקרן
אחד העסקנים

אין די איצטיגע טעג פירט דאָס יהדות החרדית אַ הייליגע מערכה אויסצושפּייען פון צווישן זיך דעם איש רע בליעל ומשחית, וועלכער פּרעדיגט וועכענטליך אויף זיין "האַטליין" די אַרגסטע ניבול פּה, זייט ביי זייט מיט שרעקליכע דברי גאוה ובוז, שטאָלצע זעלבסט-רימעריי אויף אַן אומדערהערטן שטייגער, באַגלייט מיט דברי שחץ וקלון קעגן אַלע רבנים וגדולי דורינו, און אויף אומצאָליגע פּריוואַטע מענטשן.
דער מענטש פאַרדינט דעם טיטל "אפּיקורס" לויט אַלע ערליי היכי תמצא'ס וואָס די גמרא רעכנט אויס אין מסכת סנהדרין (דף צ"ט ע"ב), המבזה תלמיד חכם, המבזה חבירו בפני תלמיד חכם, מגלה פּנים בתורה שלא כהלכה, און איבער אַלעם, "האומר מאי אהנו לן רבנן מעולם לא שרו לן עורבא ולא אסרו לן יונה" – אַן אפּיקורס איז דער וואָס זאָגט, וואָס האָבן שוין די רבנים אויפגעטון, עורב (אַן עוף טמא) האָבן זיי נאָך קיינמאָל נישט מתיר געווען און יונה (אַן עוף טהור) נאָך קיינמאָל נישט גע'אסר'ט".
אנו אין לנו אלא דברי בן עמרם. רבנים גדולי דורינו שליט"א זענען שוין אַרויסגעקומען מיט אַ הייסן קול קורא וואָס אסר'ט צו הערן זיינע דברי שחץ ונבלה, אדער האָבן דאָס מינדעסטע שייכות מיט דעם איש זדון מעללים. אבער פון אַ מכתב גלוי וואָס איז היינט מיטוואָך ערשינען פון הגה"צ רבי יעקב חנון שליט"א שווימט אַרויף צום אויבערפלאַך אַז חוץ די אַלע דברי טומאה ותועבה, האָט מען דאָ צו טון מיט איינעם וואָס "לית דין בר נש", ווייל די גמרא זאָגט "מילתא דעבידי לגלויי לא משקרי אינשי", אבער דער "לית דין בר נש" גייט אפילו נישט אַריין בגדר אינשי און וואַגט זיך צו זאָגן ליגנט אפילו עס איז מילתא דעבידי לגלויי.
עס שטעלט זיך אַרויס אַז דער פּאַרשוין ווערט געטריבן פון אַ גייסטישע שגעון צו זאָגן שקר. אין די היינטיגע מעדיצינישע וועלט וואָלט זיין קראַנקהייט באַצייכנט געוואָרן אַלס "ליגנטפאָביע", אדער אַ "סקיצאָפרענישער ליגנער". ער ליידט אויף אַן עקסטרעמען מאַנגל אין פאַרשטאַנד צו קענען אונטערשיידן צווישן פאַקטן און דמיונות.
צוליב זיין געשליפן צינגל און ווילדער קאָפּ, נעמט צומאָל ביי מענטשן אַ וויילע ביז מען כאַפּט אַז דער מענטש פאַרקויפט לאָקשאָן מיט פּעדייעס. אַלס איינער וואָס האָט שוין זיך שוין אָפּגעבריט פון זיינע ליגנס שוין נאָנט צו צען יאָר צוריק, קען דער שרייבער פון די שורות אַזויפיל זאָגן: דער פּאַרשוין קען אייך פאַרקויפן דעם ברוקלין בריק און אייך נאָך צוצאָלן צען טאָלער פאַרן קויפן.
די וועלט זאָגט, פאַרוואָס איז אַן אייזל אַן אייזל? ווייל איינמאָל זינט בריאת העולם האָט מען איר געגעבן אַ געלעגנהייט זיך צו עפענען דאָס מויל און רעדן. און וואָס האָט דאָס אייזל דאַן געזאָגט? אנכי אתונך, איך בין אַן אייזל...
ווען דער מושחת עפנט זיך דאָס מויל שרייט אַרויס פון אים: אנכי השקרן.
דער מושחת קען אויפן וועג פון וויליאַמסבורג ביז קאַנאַדאַ, זיבן שטונדן אין איין צי, רעדן אָן אויפהער און נישט אַרויסזאָגן פון מויל קיין איין איינציג וואָרט אמת.
לויט זיינע פּלאַפּלערייען איז ער שוין 25 יאָר עוסק אין בויען מקואות, און ער האָט שוין אַהערגעשטעלט הונדערטער מקואות איבער דער גאָרער וועלט.
וואו, וואָס, ווען.
ביי יעדן שמועס איז זיין הויפּט טעמע אַז איצט איז ער דאָ און מאָרגן דאָרט, ווייל היינט בויט ער אַ מקוה אין מיאַמי און מאָרגן אין מיאַנמאַר. קיינמאָל וועט מען נישט הערן פון אים פאַר וועלכע קהלה בויט ער די מקוה. אויף וועלכע אַדרעס. צו היפּנאָזירן זיינע צוהערער, שלייכט ער אַרויס פון אַרבל דעם נאָמען פון אַ סיטי, אַ טאַון, אבער קיין אַדרעס, קיין רב, קיין בעל אחראי וואָס בלייבט איבער אויפן אָרט אלס משגיח אדער בעל מכשיר.
לויט זיינע דברי הבל וואָלט ער שוין געדאַרפט האָבן געבויט אַמווייניגסטענס אַזויפיל מקואות וויפיל חב"ד שוהל'ן עס זענען דאָ איבער דער גאָרער וועלט, און ער וואָלט שוין מיט שטאָלץ אַרויסגעגעבן אַ ליסטע פון זיינע געבויטע מקואות סיי וואָס ער זאָל האָבן געבויט מהחל ועד גמירא, און סיי וואו ער איז דאָרט געווען עכ"פּ פאַר אַ וויילע ביז מען האָט אים פאַרטריבן פון דאָרט, ווי צו זאָגן: גיי דיר אין נאַרן הויז.
הרוצה לשקר ירחיק עדותו. זאָל ער זאָגן וויפיל ער האָט געבויט אין וויליאַמסבורג, אין בארא פּאַרק, אין קראָונהייטס, אין פלעטבוש, אין קאַנאַרסי, אין אַפּסטעיט ניו יאָרק, אין מאָנסי, קרית יואל אדער שיכון סקווירא, אדער לעיקוואָוד.
זאָל ער ווייזן איין בילד פון אַ מקוה וואָס ער האָט געבויט פאַר אַן ערנסטע קהלה אדער ערנסטער רב אין ניו יאָרק, און נישט פאַרקויפן לאַנגע שווער-אַרויסזאָגענדע נעמען פון אוקריינישע שטעט, וואָס עס דאַכט זיך אַז וויבאַלד קיינער קען די נעמען ניטאַמאָל דערהערן אין אויער, איז עס וואָר.
קיינער מאַכט נישט אַוועק דאָס חשיבות אַז יעדער איד בכל מקום שהוא זאָל קענען צוקומען צו אַ מקוה, אבער מדבר שקר תרחק שטייט פאָרט אין די זעלבע הייליגע תורה.
און לו יהא עס זאָל יאָ אמת זיין אַז עס איז אים געלונגען במשך די צענדליגער יאָרן צו בויען אייניגע מקואות, אדער אַרויסהעלפן, אדער שטיין דאָרט אויף די נערוון, איז אַלץ מעגליך אַז צוליב אומוויסענשאַפט איבער דעם מהות פון דעם פּאַרשוין, איז ער נישט מרוחק געוואָרן תיכף ומיד. אבער פון דאָ ביז צו זיין דער "רב המקואות" איז פאָלג מיך אַ גאַנג.
ער זאָגט כסדר אַז מען האַלט אים אין איין רופן. מאַמעס רופן אים. טאַטעס רופן אים. בחורים רופן אים. רבנים רופן אים. יונגלעך רופן אים. עף-בי-איי רופט אים. דיסטריק אַטוירניס זוכן אים. אַזש האָומלענד סעקיוריטי אַליין האָט אַ דירעקטע טעלעפאָן ליניע ביז צו אים אין כאַלאַטל.
ער איז קיינמאָל נישט אינדערהיים. אַלץ איז ער מכלומר'שט אין אויסלאַנד, אדער אויסשטאָט. שטעלט זיך די פראַגע: ער האָט קיינמאָל נישט אַרויסגעגעבן זיין היים אַדרעס אין וויליאַמסבורג, זיין לענדליין טעלעפאָן נומער, זיין סעלפאָן נומער, און וויאַזוי קומט די גאַנצע וועלט אָן צו אים? זענען אַלע באַקלאָגענישן צו אים אָפן, לעיני כל הקהל, ווען ער שפּאַצירט אויף די לי עוועניו גאַס? דאַן קומען צו אים אָן די מאַמעס?
פון וואו קומען צו אים אָן לאָנדאָנער אידן, ירושלימער רבנים אדער מאָנטריאַלער משגיחים?
שוין אָפּגערעדט אַז אויב די אַלע מענטשן זאָלן אים האָבן גערופן, האָט ער וואַרשיינליך נישט געקענט אָטעמען אין די לעצטע פּאָר וואָכן און חדשים, ווער רעדט נאָך פון בויען מקואות...
יאָ, קיינער מאַכט אים נישט אַוועק. ער קען באַווייזן וואונדער. ער איז אַ מענטש וואָס קען אַריינשטיפּן גאַנץ טשאַרלסטאָן, סאַוט קאַראָליינע, מיט די צענדליגער מקואות דאָרט, אין איין קליינעם עלעוועיטאָר אין די קאלעמענטי פּראַדזשעקטס אין וויליאַמסבורג. ווייל בשעת ער זאָגט אויפן האַטליין אַז ער איז יעצט אין טשאַרלסטאָן, זעען אים די שכנים פאָרן אַרויף און אַראָפּ מיטן עלעיוועיטאָר פון ליידיגיין.
שקרן, שקרן, שקרן.
חוץ מקואות, האָט ער זיך לעצטנס גענומען אויף כשרות, ער רייסט אַראָפּ די גדולי ישראל פון ארץ ישראל און גדולי הרבנים פון אַמעריקע. שוין אַ יאָר צייט וואָס ער האַקט אויף די כשרות פון בהמה פלייש, און אויף די שמיטה פּירות און ירקות אין ארץ ישראל.
לויט ווי ער פּרעדיגט, וואָלט זיך געדאַרפט טרעפן כאָטש איין רב, איין קהלה, חסידיש צי ליטוויש, ספרדיש צי אשכנזיש, אדער איין בוטשער סטאָר, וואָס זאָל ערנסט נעמען זיינע ווערטער און טון צו די זאַך: אויפהערן פאַרקויפן בשר בהמה אדער צונעמען נאָך אַ בעל מכשיר אין געשעפט.
למעשה שפּאַרן אויף יעדן אינדערפרי הונדערטער און הונדערטער כשר'ע פלייש געשעפטן לענגאויס די פאַראייניגטע שטאַטן, און אַלעס גייט אָן ווי געהעריג. און וואָס זעט מען דאָרט? דער רב המכשיר וועמען ער רייסט אַראָפּ, איז ווייטער דער אויסשליסליכער בעל מכשיר אויף די אַלע הונדערטער געשעפטן, און נישט בלויז וואָס מען האָט אים נישט אָפּגעזאָגט, מען האָט אפילו נישט צוגענומען נאָך אַ בעל מכשיר לצדו, און קיין איין פלייש באַנק איז נישט אַרויס פון ביזנעס.
ווידעראַמאָל הרוצה לשקר ירחיק עדותו. דער עולם קויפט דאָך אין גרויסן ווייטער בשר בהמה, דערציילט ער אַז ער רעדט מיט די גויאישע טראָק דרייווערס פון די פלייש פירמעס – וועלכע האָבן באַוויזן צו כאַפּן זיין ליניע צווישן די טעלעפאָן קאָולס פון פּרעזידענט בוש און וולאַדאַמיר פּוטין – און זיי דערציילן אַז דרייסיג פּראָצענט פון די סחורה ווערן נישט איבערגענומען אין די געשעפטן.
דאָס איז איין באַווייז, אַז זיינע ווערטער האָבן מכלומר'שט זיי וועלכן השפּעה. און נאָך אַ באַווייז איז, אַז עפּעס אַ פּסח חלוקה אין ארץ ישראל האָט היי יאָר נישט געשיקט קיין בשר בהמה נאָר בשר עוף, און דאָס איז בלויז אים צו פאַרדאַנקען.
שקרן, שקרן, שקרן. דאָס שיקן בשר עוף פאַר עניי ארץ ישראל וואָס מערן זיך ליידער, האָט צו טון בלויז מיטן פינאַנציעלן מצב און פאַרגרעסערטע ליסטע פון נצרכים, און קיין שום קשר כל דהו מיט עניני כשרות.
פאַקט: עפנט אויף די חרדישע צייטונגען, גייט אַריין אין די היימישע עסן געשעפטן, וועט איר זיך אַליין איבערצייגן, אַז דער פּאַרשוין רעדט צום לאָמפּ, און אפשר אויבן אויפן פּלאַנעט מאַרס האָט ער אַ השפּעה. דאָ אונטן, ווערן אַלע כשרות אָרגאַניזאַציעס און בעלי מכשירים וועלכע ער רייסט אַראָפּ, פון וואָך צו וואָך באַרייכערט מיט נייע פּראָדוקטן. צי ער וויל יאָ צי נישט.
האָבענדיג דעם דורכפאַל אויפן כשרות קאַמפּיין, האָבענדיג די מינדעסטע הצלחה צו בויען אַ מקוה ביי אַן ערליכע, כשר'ע קהלה און קרייז, גיסט ער אויס זיין ווייטאָג דורך משחית זיין אידישע קינדער מיט די אַרגסטע ניבול פּה רחמנא ליצלן.
אבער מען דאַרף אַלץ צוריקגיין צום שורש: ווער רעדט אויף דעם האַטליין? אַ פּאָלנער שקרן וואָס האָט שוין צוואָנציג יאָר נישט אַרויסגעזאָגט קיין אמת וואָרט פון מויל.
מען קען נאָך אַסאַך שרייבן, אויב די צייט וואָלט ערלויבט. אבער די אונטערשטע שורה איז: צענדליגער גדולי ישראל האָבן אַרויסגעגעבן אַ שאַרפן קול קורא קעגן דעם מושחת, און עפר אנו תחת כפּות רגליהם אפילו נאָר צו זאָגן אַז כל דבריהם אמת וצדק. ער איז טמא ומטמא און ווער עס הערט אים איז עובר על דברי חכמים און האָט אַ חלק אין צעברעכן חומות קדושת ישראל.
אבער עס פעלט אויס אַז מענטשן זאָלן זיך באַקענען מיט'ן שקר אַליין, ווייל אַלץ טרעפן זיך נייגעריגע מענטשן, קליינע מוחות און שוואַכע כאַראַקטערן וועלכע קענען גרינג איבערגענומען ווערן פון גרויסע מיילער. איז כדאי זיי זאָלן וויסן: אויב איז אייך אינטערעסאַנט וואָס ער דערציילט, קויפט ענדערש דעם שלשה אחים ביכל. פיל זיסערע פאַנטאַזיעס.
מיר ווילן זיך נישט באַפאַסן מיט זיינע דברי טומאה וזוהמא, נאָר אַז מענטשן זאָלן אָנהויבן באַגרייפן, אַז ווער עס הערט אים, וואָס אימער ער זאָגט, איז שקר שקר שקר, לא היו דברים מעולם.
אדרבה ואדרבה, מיר דאַרפן אַריינברענגען אין זיך און די קינדער הערצה און הכנעה צו גדולי ישראל שליט"א אשר מפּיהם אנו חיים ומימיהם אנו שותים, און געדענקען אויסצולערנען די קינדער דאָס וויכטיגקייט פון זאָגן אַלעמאָל נאָר אמת, ווייל אויב נישט קומט מען אָן צו דעם שאול תחתית ווי דער מושחת איז אָנגעקומען.
ויה"ר שיהא אמת נר לרגלינו עד עולם.

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 Aug 04, 2008 at 11:54 PM Anonymous Says:

mr. rosenberg keep up your good work, your the greatest which nobody did before, let me tell to all the people that are against you that nobody has insurance when their kids will get melestad then they will cry ,, so chasak chasak !!!!

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 Aug 06, 2008 at 12:31 AM a chasid Says:

Halevay he should achieve what he set out to do. But I still believe that it should be done Al Pi Daas Torah. There are plenty Rabbanim (R' Duved Cohen, etc) who can and will give a Heter to go to the authorities. He must also remember that his accusations must be 99.9% convincibly true, even if the report itself is not 99.9% accurate. There is always Dinei Nefushois-on both sides of the aisle, affected!!

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 Aug 10, 2008 at 02:25 AM Anonymous Says:

me thinks that scum is upset that someone talked about what jews have done( and is ok with the talmudd ) for a long shamefull time.

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 Aug 10, 2008 at 03:46 AM Anonymous Says:

I'm not Jewish. I'm horrified by the reaction of these other rabbis and by some of the comments on this story. Chidren must be protected no matter what. If somebody is hurting them, they must be stopped. If somebody is protecting the pedophiles, then they are to be removed from power. Period. I can't think of a single Catholic church that protected molesting priests the way some are protecting these rabbis. Disgusting behavior!

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 Aug 10, 2008 at 06:31 AM Anonymous Says:

Why does this not surprise me? G-d protect this brave Rabbi, and death to the molestors and their protectors.

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 Aug 10, 2008 at 09:35 AM Goi Says:

It appears that the people that chased Rabbi Nochum are not the child molesters he is trying to expose. Of course if Rabbi Nochum generalizes and doesn't produce evidence, people will feel he is stating a falsehood and be angry. If Rabbi Nochum does indeed have evidence he should present it to the community.

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 Aug 10, 2008 at 11:09 AM Usha Zalek Says:

Nearly 6000 years of Jewish culture, yet look here, everyone is still arguing, because nobody has all the answers.

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 Aug 10, 2008 at 02:16 PM Benjamin Goldstein Says:

You people who are living in denial about child molestation are just as bad or worse than the way the Catholic Church has been living in denial about child molesting priests. The fact is; THERE ARE JEWISH CHILD MOLESTERS, GET USED TO IT AND DEAL WITH IT! EXPOSE THEM!

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 Aug 10, 2008 at 02:24 PM Anonymous Says:

People who say there is a "molestation" problem in the chasidic community are just anti-semites. This is just blood libel for the 21st century.

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 Aug 10, 2008 at 08:07 PM a chasid Says:

Thank you Goi for agreeing with me.

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 Aug 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM Anonymous Says:

Listen to the schmucks scream: Silence this man so the goyim do not find out!

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 Aug 12, 2008 at 06:27 PM Anonymous Says:

why cann't we all get along!!!

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 Nov 06, 2008 at 06:14 PM Anonymous Says:

There is a history in which our community does nothing and later finds out too late that the damage has been. If there is a disease, let us route it expose it for what it is. the "Chessed" you do, is that you put the perpetrator (person) into therapy and heal him. Isn't that Ahavas Yisroel!!!!!

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 Nov 06, 2008 at 06:21 PM Anonymous Says:

After reading all the above comments, I now understand how a person like Obama became president of the US. Hashem has sent us a "king" who will force us to do Tshuva because we are failures.

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 Nov 24, 2008 at 07:30 PM SAN FRANCISCO Says:

I am grateful that Rabbi Rosenberg is speaking out. All children have a right to thrive. No adult has right to sexually abuse an innocent child or vulnerable adults. It takes great courage to speak out to protect a child. I tip my hat to the good Rabbi.

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 Jun 27, 2009 at 11:40 PM Anonymous Says:

Reb Nochum is right about the molesters. The Rabonim that put him in cherem are scum. it's just too bad that some serious rabonim don't get on the act and do something about the problem, so we wouldn't have to hear his ranting and raving. Until that day, Reb Nocuhum, you are the better of the two evils.

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 Aug 30, 2009 at 07:15 AM Anonymous Says:

nachum. you deserve the first place in gan eden!!

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 Jan 11, 2010 at 08:48 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

great!!!
thats what they had to do, we have to kick him out from EVERYWHERE, follow what our rabunim said

Rabbi Nochum Rosenberg is a great rabbi and man. Whoever is protecting the crap like Rabbi Kolko is causing pain to the many souls he molested. Whoever is willing to protect the pedophiles, are a "shonder" to our community.

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 06:50 PM Anonymous Says:

such a shame he has bad language

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