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"None of the things described in the indictment actually happened," she said.
The woman's daughter arrived with three of her adult brothers to testify at her mother's trial in Jerusalem District Court.
"She might have given a slap on occasion, but not what they're describing," said the daughter. "She was a warm, caring mother. She's being described as a 'Taliban mother,' because of the way she dresses."
The defendant appeared in court fully covered from head to toe, including her face, and her attorney said her client's religious beliefs precluded her from answering the male judge directly.
The indictment claims that the woman beat her children with blunt objects, and often locked them out of the house. It also states that some of the children allegedly engaged in incest while they were locked out, which the mother allegedly failed to report.
The mother's lawyer, Orna Sabagh Aruati, said before the court proceedings that "the State Prosecutor's Office and the police put words in the children's mouths to incriminate their mother."
"This is a witch hunt. They took the kids, who had never in their lives been questioned by police, and interrogated them," she said. "They threw serious allegations at them in order to get them to say horrible things against their mother."
"My mother is a moral woman," added the accused woman's daughter.
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Aug 24, 2008 at 09:14 PM Anonymous Says:
"and her attorney said her client’s religious beliefs precluded her from answering the male judge directly."
And where in halacha is this nonsense written?
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Aug 24, 2008 at 09:53 PM Just thinking Says:
Without knowing the facts up close, my experience with the Israeli Police Force shows that this is possible and actually probable. Not that I approve of the cult, but she still doesn't deserve to be wrongly accused.
I was never a big fan of testimony from children after police interrogation, almost always it is completeley biased one way or another.
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Aug 24, 2008 at 11:00 PM anonymous Says:
and whats the difference between her and the taliban -just curious?
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Aug 24, 2008 at 11:35 PM Anonymous Says:
shame on you calling a jewish woman who might just be sick ‘Jewish Taliban Mom'
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Aug 24, 2008 at 11:42 PM Anonymous Says:
If she's so sick, 11:35, then you be the nice guy & take her in to YOUR home. You seem to have more compassion than the rest of us so I vote you can have the mitzva of taking her in.
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Aug 24, 2008 at 11:57 PM Babishka Says:
Where is the father?
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Aug 24, 2008 at 11:58 PM Anonymous Says:
Her kids enagage in incest but the mother is a "loving mother"? Just for the mother not doing anyhting baout incest shows what a filthy pig she is and she should be put in a insitution.
And where is the sick husband?
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Aug 25, 2008 at 12:57 AM Anonymous Says:
why do people take news so personal ?
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Aug 25, 2008 at 07:58 AM Anonymous Says:
kids repeat what they are told. In recent years there has been a better understanding in the US in such cases of alleged abuse. I guess Israel is still a third world country. Why believe the little kids instead of the older ones? Where are the neighbors, teachers, family? If there was such rampant abuse going on, neighbors and teachers would be the first ones to testify. But remember you are dealing with Israeli courts whose judges don't believe that anyone should have more than 2 kids and a dog.
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Aug 25, 2008 at 08:16 AM Avrohom Abba Says:
And where is the kaf zichus?
Have we heard about a conviction or about an accusation?
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Aug 25, 2008 at 08:33 AM Anonymous Says:
12:57, we take it "personal" because Jewish children belong to all of us. There's enough stranger abuse...family abuse is even worse. This is a shocking situation, so bizarre & you have all these damaged kids. Has anyone looked at this older daughter's behavior? Such things are often imitated. Maybe the authorities should look into her family's welfare if she thinks her mother is such a Tzedakis.
8:16. when the welfare of kids is at stake I don't see how dan l'kaf zchus applies. Remove the kids, start therapy & professional intervention, & forbid parental contact. IF it turns out to be untrue, it's unfortunate, but better err on the side of caution in such a case.
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Aug 25, 2008 at 09:14 AM Anonymous Says:
It is the natural inclination of a child to love a parent. Battered children, whether emotional or physical still possess an internal desire to love their parent. It is nature. Just like adult battered women symdrome. We cant explain these things unless we are trained professionals. BH there is a legal system that hopefully recognizes this aspect of this girls "testimony:
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Aug 25, 2008 at 10:53 AM Berl Says:
so far all we know is what the Police say and they have absolutely NO reliability, the persecute innocent people just because they are hareidi and let chiloni criminals like Olmert get away with murder!
There is no question that this woman is strange and does not practice normative Judaism and there is no doubt that the secular leftist media portrays her as being mainstream.
One way or another the truth will hopefully get out. If she is guilty then she deserves punishmnent but after she gets psychiatric help. If she is innocent many people will owe her an apology big time!
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Aug 25, 2008 at 11:35 AM Milhouse Says:
Anon of 8:33am wrote: "Remove the kids, start therapy & professional intervention, & forbid parental contact. IF it turns out to be untrue, it's unfortunate, but better err on the side of caution in such a case."
Excuse me, how is that erring on the side of caution? Caution generally advises shev ve'al taaseh, that before meddling in people's lives, especially in such a high-handed way, you need to be sure it's necessary. Without such certainty, what gives you the right to rip children away from their parents? And who will repair the damage that such action will cause, "if it turns out to be untrue"? It seems to me that you, like most social workers, prefer to err on the side of recklessness; or rather, that you operate from the presumption that parents have no rights to their children, that all parents have custody of their children only by the grace of the state, that ideally all children would be raised from birth by the state, if not for the outrage that would cause, so taking children into state custody is no harm, and needs no justification.
You are the problem, not the solution.
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Aug 25, 2008 at 12:01 PM Anonymous Says:
stockholm syndrome
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Aug 25, 2008 at 01:51 PM Anonymous Says:
I am 8:33. Millhouse, I'm very surprised, I usually agree with you, but this time you're way off. Your comments about the rights of parents vis a vis the State are ridiculous at best.
I PERSONALLY know of a "FRUM" family where the MOTHER abused her sons. And no, I'm not a social worker (thanks for the complement!) just a teacher who got involved when a RY called me because, as he said, "You will take care of it."
I DON'T WANT THIS JOB!! But when mothers do to their own kids the sort of things we read about in horror, how can anyone stand by and do nothing? Children have to be protected first & foremost. Meddling??? Sometimes the decision may be wrong, but are YOU prepared to take that chance? I am not.
As for this case I just referred to...I will not answer any questions or discuss it further. Either you believe me, or you don't.
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Aug 25, 2008 at 02:09 PM ivdi es hashem besimcha Says:
it is obvious from all the posts here that none of you have children and are young guys with very little knowledge of they way children function.
children do love their parents but when prodded will agree the mother "hits" them, punishes them, etc. making a child dress, bathe, go to sleep, etc. is punishment to kids and they sometimes do feel like they "hate" their mother for making them do those things.
taking the children away, unless absolutely necessary, will damage them for life.
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Aug 25, 2008 at 03:31 PM lumberyard Says:
Face all covered....Why???
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Aug 25, 2008 at 06:04 PM Anonymous Says:
this is so sick. And for people to protect this woman just because she is religius is pathetic. There are plenty of abuse cases in the chariedi community unfortunatly.
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Aug 25, 2008 at 07:05 PM anonymous Says:
Anonymous Says:
comments - arrow If she's so sick, 11:35, then you be the nice guy & take her in to YOUR home. You seem to have more compassion than the rest of us so I vote you can have the mitzva of taking her in.
08-24-2008 - 11:42 PM
you miss my point - you gave no reason for calling for her ‘Jewish Taliban Mom’
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Aug 25, 2008 at 08:45 PM Anonymous Says:
To 3:31---if you did what she did (allegedly, of course), you wouldn't want anyone to see your face, either.
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Aug 25, 2008 at 09:24 PM aaron k Says:
Please note that she is a baalas teshuva
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Aug 25, 2008 at 10:38 PM balabusta Says:
What I wonder about is all the women with good hearts that cannot have children and want them so badly. Women that would take any of thse children into their lives and hearts.
A story like this makes you wonder why Hashem gives children a mother like this.
Yes,I know you can not judge untill you are in a persons shoes.
A mothers job is to protect their children not, to take out anger and abuse on them.
There are so many ways to "cool down" such as taking a walk, taking a bath, taking a time out ,so that anger like this does not come out on helpless little ones.
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Aug 26, 2008 at 12:10 AM FinVeeNemtMenSeichel Says:
8:33 i hate sounding negative, but forgive me please - youre such an idiot.
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Aug 26, 2008 at 01:30 PM earl Says:
There is a big problem with BT's who have no mesorah how to raise yiddishe kids. Many organizations are deicated to kiruv yet none are dedicated to helping BT's after they become frum. This is also the main source of the youth-at-risk crisis