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Jerusalem, Israel - Haredi Rabbis Against Light Rail Train

Published on:   Aug 25, 2008 at 07:30 AM
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Jerusalem, Israel - Ultra-Orthodox Rabbinical Transportation Committee strongly opposes the new form of transportation in Jerusalem, saying it constitutes ‘a huge step backwards on a worldly, spiritual level alike’.

The committee approached Knesset members and ministers this week in a request to reconsider the routes for the capital's light rail train.

“In our meeting with transportation experts it became clear that the Transport Ministry is planning on canceling a large part of the haredi lines that exist in the city,” the committee stated in a letter.

According to them, the goal is to “force the ultra-Orthodox population in specific neighborhoods to take the light train and in other neighborhoods to ride the regular lines.”

“We conclude that the light train is not at all suitable for the ultra-Orthodox community’s needs, neither worldly nor spiritually. The goal of forcing the ultra-Orthodox community to use the light train constitutes a severe spiritual danger.

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“The Transport Ministry intends on altering the bus routes that serve the general public and move them to the Geula neighborhood and thus, to completely ruin the neighborhood’s spiritual character.”

The rabbis warned that due to limitations on the entrance of private vehicles into the city center, the Geula neighborhood will turn into a parking area for all those coming to the center. This is likely to increase the traffic on the neighborhood’s narrow streets and occupy the residents’ parking spaces.

In addition, they expressed a fear regarding the cancellation of the “kosher” bus lines that operate in Jerusalem and on which there is a separation between men and women.

Their biggest worry is the cancellation of bus 49A from the Neve Yaakov neighborhood which, in their opinion, greatly contributed to the prosperity of the haredi population in this northern suburb.

The Rabbinical Transportation Committee members concluded that the 160,000 haredi residents living in Jerusalem are liable to be negatively affected by the expected changes in transportation.

“There are those who will call this ‘a disaster for ultra-Orthodox Judaism,’ and those that will express themselves with greater severity. What is clear is that this is a huge step backwards on a worldly and spiritual level alike.”


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 Aug 25, 2008 at 09:01 AM Moishe Mulva Says:

Can't say I'm surprised....Perhaps the 'Rabbinical Transportation Committee'(which is a funny name), can suggest separate trains. Time and time again, the secular forces in the city try to foist strange/anti-religious ideas on the well meaning public. It's time to take a firm/frum stand.

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 09:19 AM Conflicted Says:

"CONFLICTED" is really the word. Jerusalem and likewise many other mixed Cities are being torn apart by the frictions of Orthodox/Frum/Chareidi and the Chiloini population.

It's coming to the forefront more and more. There's really no good solution except to completely segregate these two apart.

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 09:20 AM Anonymous Says:

eventually they will want seperate cities for men and women, men in yerushalayim and women in beitar, or some nonsense like that,

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 09:33 AM Anonymous Says:

I think they should just go back to the good old "Ferd In Vugen"

Of course it should consist of Male horses only!!!!

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 09:45 AM murray Says:

I agree, everything the secular forces do seems to have two components lately. The stated general purpose, plus the hidden agenda, that is "how can we aid in undermining religious observance?

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM Anonymous Says:

I love that hint of "greater severity". That must be the new word for burning trash cans and overturning police cars. These people are nuts.

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 10:18 AM Moishe Mulva Says:

What's the issue with trains?...The picture above shows people on a bus....2 problems....The man is sitting in the rear(ossur, lechatchila) and apparently is gazing at the woman standing(d'orraisah)....From my vantage, it looks like the buses are violating religious laws...

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 10:32 AM Anonymous Says:

No is going to force the rabbis to use them train. Let them walk if they want to.

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM Yossi G. Says:

They've been building this thing for about a decade, and now they wake up and want to change the route? Indian-hair sheitels, Lipa concert cancellation, and now this late decision?

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 11:27 AM Milhouse Says:

Yossi G, they don't want to change the train's route, they're protesting about the cancellation of their buses. Until now they expected that their buses would continue to run, and they would just tell their people to keep taking them, and not to take the train. Now they're told that there won't be any more buses for them, because the whole point of the train is to replace buses, and they're upset about it.

I don't see why the train can't have separate and mixed carriages. It seems a simple enough solution, if there's enough demand for it, and that would be *more* tzniusdik than the buses.

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 12:16 PM Anonymous Says:

let them live in Iran if they want seperate trains

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 12:40 PM Charlie Hall Says:

They'd rather people used automobiles and continue to finance the Arab anti-Semites?

Exactly who are the members of this "Rabbinical Transportation Committee"?

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 12:47 PM Anonymous Says:

The Satmar Rebbe, Rabbi Youel Teitelbaum was right from Day 1. The Zionists are out to DESTROY Judaism. In EVERY shape and way. And they still call Israel a Democratic Country. Shame one this gov't and the one before and the one before that all the way back to the founder of Zionism T. Her***l.
The only way out of this mess is Moshiach.

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 01:00 PM Anonymous Says:

where does it say in the Shulkhan Oruch that men and women cannot ride in a train together? do we have so little faith in people's abilities to control themselves? the toful and the ikkur have been completely confused. Reb Moshe answered this sheila decades ago. kol hamosif goraya!

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 01:22 PM Anonymous Says:

I live in Williamsburg and get to Manhattan by subway, riding together with the lowest of the lowest elements.
You gotta work with what you have.

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 02:00 PM Anonymous Says:

There should be separate hours for men and women to ride the trains.
Soon there will be his and her elevators.

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 04:05 PM anonymous Says:

anon 12:47 and i suppose if the charedim took over completely that would be more democratic ?-u fool
and to all of you in favor of seperate buses and trains thats a strange chumra and you have no right forcing it on others .................nuff said

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 06:14 PM murray Says:

Question: when we have "His" and "Hers" elevators will I be able to get on the "Hers", if I deem the "His" elevator to be unsafe?

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 Aug 25, 2008 at 07:08 PM balabusta Says:

When the Haredim in Israel pay taxes and join the army to protect our homeland (I Know a few have joined/are in the army)then they can have a say in transportation matters.
Transportation is a way to get around.
Spirituality is in the heart.

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 Aug 29, 2008 at 10:47 AM Reb Yid Says:

Do you guys oppose trains in Brooklyn?

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