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Benzion Twerski, Ph.D., graduated with a Ph.D. in psychology from University of Pittsburgh in 1985. He studied in Yeshivos in Scranton, PA, Baltimore, and Jerusalem. He has been one of the leading professionals in youth-at-risk and addictions in the Jewish community.
Firstly, I have extreme respect for Dov Hikind, and I share in his mission to make a difference in this painful and destructive issue. I was eager to join with him to create a Task Force that would actually lead to reduction of this terrible problem while doing everything from within the community. It is with sadness that I left the position, and I will always to continue to consider Dov a good colleague and friend. I know he feels the same.
For quite some years, I had invested time and effort, without compensation, for various projects that were being done for the Klal. Even at times when my own financial situation was difficult, I extended myself at great cost for the hatzolas nefashos of youth at risk, addictions, etc. I am not interested in writing my own hesped, but there is much that has never been publicized and won’t be. My expectations were that the mission that I was entering would be understood as something that will be done properly and sensitively. It seems that some understood this quite erroneously.
For several days, I was approached by individuals, some stating that they would cross the street if they were to meet me while walking with their children. Others told me that they would not accept my child into their class if assigned. Others used euphemisms that I refuse to repeat. Family members were likewise confronted by all sorts of comments and phone calls. My married children had been told to fear ever getting shidduchim for their children. Basically, I was left to choose between abandoning my family for this mission, or to take the painful step that I did.
Molestation is underestimated in our community. I never proclaimed it an epidemic. I have not found any reliable statistics. But each victim is a precious neshomoh, an “olam molei” that is totally destroyed. Some victims leave the derech, others struggle with post traumatic stress disorder, some have major hurdles in establishing their own married lives, and still others become molesters themselves. There are frequent comments such as “It does not happen in my yeshiva” which constitutes denial. Perhaps there are no incidents, but one never knows. We’re talking about things that occur in secrecy. I never looked at this problem as one of quantity. I am concerned with the severity. Even the minutest percentage of foreign objects in food will prompt a recall. Our children deserve a zero tolerance for violations of their safety. And for those who insinuated that I was going to go after yeshivos and mosdos hachinuch, I will add that the abuse that occurs in these holy settings is a small percentage of what occurs in various other locations. To combat the problem, we need to begin somewhere.
The intent of the Task Force was to devise systems that would be implemented by the yeshivos themselves to accept complaints, evaluate them, and move the cases onto the next level, whatever was determined by a body of individuals that would include poskim. No fox guarding the henhouse either, as the system would comprise individuals from outside the yeshiva as well to prevent denial and bias from interfering with the process. Part of this process would help filter out complaints that are baseless, either by exaggeration, inaccuracy, or pure fabrication. To consider this project a new “abuse clinic”, or a molestation police brigade is completely groundless.
So I spent several days watching these gross misperceptions feed the mouths of “holchei rochil”. Not one person called me to inquire about the mission, and there was never a chance to explain any of this to anyone before the hatchet began swinging.
Most bothersome to me is that this occurred during Chodesh Elul, when we all need to be doing some self-exploration – cheshbon hanefesh and teshuvah. We will need to face the upcoming yemai hadin, where we will each stand in our individual judgments. I will face Avinu Malkeinu with the position that “I tried to help Your children but they refused to let me.” What will the “holchei rochil” offer in their defense? “Hashem, we just shot down an “osek betzorchei tzibbur be’emunoh”. You shot the wrong person.
I am not personally offended. I have learned to tolerate being called names. I’ve been around a little. I grieve for the work that could have been done, and my tefiloh is that someone capable is found who can see this mission through to success. I grieve for the pain and anger that this whole situation caused for myself, my family, for Dov Hikind, and for all others who recognize the seriousness of the mission. I grieve for the pain and suffering that innocent neshamos will experience in the absence of a system that could stop it. The flak will eventually fade, but the damage has been done. If nothing else, it is a really serious lesson in hilchos lashon horah.
In reality, every frum Yid benefits from the things that askanim do. From intervening with governmental matters, legal issues, dealing with yeshivos, getting streets blocked for various events, and others too numerous to mention, we all derive much benefit from what they do. Nearly all, or perhaps absolutely all, function selflessly. Hatzoloh, Shomrim, and Chaverim are totally volunteer staffed. Since when do we carelessly and viciously attack an askan? Was there any posek asked about doing this? Was this a campaign by a group or individual, or was this just the street gossip fueling itself? I may never know. But I have been sensitized away from participating in askonus.
I already contacted others whose projects are precious and worthy, and withdrew from taking any askonus role. Without any hesitation, I will share my thoughts and opinions with any of them, including Dov. But no one will be able to hold me responsible for something I did not do.
To all the voices in the street that made this happen, my conscience is clear entering the days of selichos and yemai hadin. Are yours?




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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:34 PM Anonymous Says:
i wonder if this is coming from ignorant pepole or from higher up
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:37 PM Been there Says:
I guess that they did not like the nice way of dealing with the molestation issue. It is incumbent upon all of us to stop protecting the molesters and report them to the authorities and have them locked up. When they get out they can build themselves a Megans Law IR MIKLAT where they can live with their own shul, kollel and mikvah away from society and children. Then they can molest each other for their amusement.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:37 PM Joseph Says:
What a shame. The New York frum community could have had the best possible professional deal with this problem. Instead, they chased him out.
That's messed up. Thank God I don't live there.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:42 PM Anonymous Says:
so sad you couldnt continue this great work, perhaps a non jewish person of your caliber would have less to loose in order to do this mandatory work of g-d.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:42 PM BP Says:
Dr Twerski,
We all know how this works and your being respepected and appreciated and understood for taking this step, macshuva kmaseh....you wanted to do but you were stopped by our own.
Dov hikind please get a grant that will pay for cameras in every room in a yeshiva building and youll have all yeshivas beg that you go with Dr. Twerskis guidance.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:44 PM Anonymous Says:
IF anyone has the rabbis ear can they ask him and post his response. is there any way those of us who want him to continue with this task. can get the rabbi to reconsider.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:46 PM Anonymous Says:
I have rarely read such a powerful piece as that by Dr. Twerski. He does not need to be told that he deserves the praise of the entire community for his work in this area as well as others, but it needs to be stated publicly and unequivocally. Indeed it is the Rabbonim who should have started and been backing this initiative. For that reason I hope that the opposition to Dov Hikind's initiative comes only from ignorant people.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:46 PM political analyst Says:
ok, so who's up for the task?
Logically, the only people who have an interest in opposing this should be the molestors themselves. are there that many molestors out there?!
astonishing!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:48 PM Anonymous Says:
Why are people more interested in protecting the criminals than the victims?
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:52 PM Anon. Says:
To BP @5:42,
I take offense by calling these people who did this "our own". They might look like frum jews, but they don't act like them, so in my opinion they aren't.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:51 PM Anonymous Says:
If this is a result of stam people making him crazy then I beg Rabbi twerski to rethink his decision as we all must strengthen our Bitachon in the RBS"O that it is HE and no one else who controls the world and ours is the job of doing for the Kllal. Hashem will protect him and guide him. If this is a result of Daas Torah pressuring him to not do this then he is commended for stepping down but questioned as to why share publicly the frustration. We must follow our Gedolim like it or not - this is the lesson from last weeks Parsha.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:47 PM HALDOLPRN Says:
MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE NEXT CHILD THAT IS VIOLATED AND THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. HASHEM YERACHEIM!!! WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR PPL TO GET THE MESSAGE.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:57 PM ano Says:
as someone involved in askunas and in these sensitive issues it is time for all of the so called rabbanim to issue a kol koreh not about music but about molestation
i am tired of getting calls to my home late at night because someone has beeaten there wife or children on drugs or molestation
these cases are happening every day in our community
and believe me in some of the finest mishpochas
let us start protecting the defenseless and hay hashem protect each of us the way we protect the defenseless
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Sep 10, 2008 at 05:54 PM A Therapist Says:
Why do people think that the Frum community does not have social ills? are we not human? have we not come past the Nish't Bah Inz Principle?
Not only is "shikur deh Goy" We have illnesses by Jews too. We have At Risk youth in our midst and we have pedophiles in our midst. We are human.
Thank you Dr. T for your tircha for the Tzibur. Thank you Dov.
Dr. T - this letter makes me shiver. Keep Strong for us all.
Let's keep our children safe.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:06 PM victim #........ Says:
THERE IS ONLY ONE SELUTION NOW, I DONT CARE IF ITS A SICKNESS AND I DONT CARE FOR FAMILY, AT THIS POINT, I AM GETTING A NEW BASE BALL BAT. IF THEY WE NOT DO ANYTHING, WE WILL DO IT OUR SELFS, I CAN NOW BEAT AT LEAST 7 MOLESTERS KNOWN TO ME, PEOPLE I GUARENTEE YOU, THERE IS ONE LANGUAGE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:06 PM TRAGIC Says:
What a tragedy!
My heart goes out for Rabbi Twerski and his family.
My heart goes out for all the children that may be unprotected from sick individuals.
We recently read in Parshas Hashavua about the Eglah Arufah, that was mandated in the event of an unsolved murder. The murder of the soul of child is just as bad.
Can we say our hands our clean?
We must eradicate "HORAH SHEBIKIRBENU", and that includes protectzia and mafia.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:28 PM Anonymous Says:
Nobody addressed Dr. Twersky's point...that his FAMILY is getting flak, his kids have been threatened with not getting Shidduchim for their children.
Dr. Pelcovitz works extensively in this field...I know, because I've called him. He isn't being harrassed. So it begs the question...is it the Chassidim, the "VERY holy people" to whom many look as examples who are putting the word out on the street that they will destroy Dr. Twersky? I guess it must be. Dr. Pelcovitz, whose religious affiliation I don't know but I guess he's just a poshiter yid (!) clearly isn't a Chasid & he's safe.
I am cetain that no Rebbe would do such a thing. But I'm not sure about the rest of the flock. All these Chassidim, who cloak themselves in their bekershes, streimlach, lange payos etc...you allow this cancer to fester and in the process you destroy (or try to destroy) one of your own. You are AS GUILTY of abuse as the molestors themselves. You may not assault children, but you protect those who do & are stopping the one person who may, just may, be the missing piece of the puzzle of those able to make a difference.
May G-d forgive you all.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:15 PM molested kid Says:
rabbi NO don"t quit!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:10 PM Anonymous Says:
victim,
Like you said there is a universal language. hatzlocha
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:56 PM Anonymous Says:
GOD BLESS RABBI TWERSKI
MAY ALL THE MOLESTERS BE PUNISHED IN THIS WORLD AND THE WORLD TO COME.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:58 PM Anonymous Says:
I wonder if the molesters themselves were afraid and were behind the campaign to get him to resign
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:50 PM Anonymous Says:
After reading the news of Rabbi Twerski's resignation, I cried. I truly hoped and believed that finally something will get done in our community that will put an end to the sickness.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:50 PM moshe Says:
Why would he want to stay in a community with these animals who call themselves Jews?
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:46 PM conscience Says:
I can't not sleep at night, never mind say "my conscience is clear" when I know that i just turned my back on all the Yiddishe Neshomos who continue to be abused RIGHT NOW, as we speak and we DO NOTHING about it, because we have to "save our own skin"!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:43 PM Anonymous Says:
6:28 - he addressed that aspect of it. Dr. Pelcovitz is part of an MO/Chareidi-Lite community and doesn't get this sort of treatment. Let's call a spade a spade; we can't always be PC if we want change.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:05 PM Ich Farshtei Nisht Says:
Where is he getting flak from ???? We need more details and insight into this. Something just isn't adding up. WHO is pressuring the rabbi and his family ????
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:39 PM open your eyes Says:
To victim #........ Says:
Amen. Either a literal bat or a figurative one using the legal system and the media. If we can't police ourselves, if our "leaders" don't have the cajones to deal with such an obvious no-brainer, we have to do it on our own. One case of molestation is more important than all the idiots who will scream chillul hashem, don't wash laundry etc. It will (Ch"v it should happen) their own fault that we had to got to secular systems to protect our children.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:06 PM Anonymous Says:
if you read his letter is was not just regular people or nuts.
It was rebbis that's who he says if you son comes to my class I will not accept him.
Why are the rebbis powers to be quiet on this, you would think they would move faster then they moved to bann the music concert.
No maybe it is a little darker they are protecting some of their own
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:38 PM Anonymous Says:
While there are numerous disturbing things about this situation, I wonder if the Shidduch and school/yeshiva admissions systems need to be changed since it seems that black-mailing parents with threats to their children's shidduch possibilities and yeshiva admissions and punishing children for perceived non-conformity by parents is a common control/extortion tactic. For starters, let's have school admissions questionnaires that assign each child a number that are reviewed by an admissions committee that does know which number goes with which names and all of the questions and written references stick to relevant information like age, interests, grades, etc.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:36 PM Apple Says:
RABBI TWERSKI YOU ARE A COWARD
INSTEAD OF SLINKING AWAY I WANT YOU TO NAME NAMES
NAME NAMES
SHINE SOME SUNLIGHT ON THESE SKUNKS
DONT LET THEM WIN
NAME NAMES
NAME NAMES
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:33 PM Apple Says:
The Rabbis are failing us. And Dov Hikind is failing us, by protecting the criminals he, himself, knows about.
Most of all we are failing ourselves. All day at other so called jewish yeshivish news sites we talk about YU, and the dress wearing professor. We bash the moderns. We bash the Jews who are not like us.
RABBOSAI we MUST bash this instead.
Bash the rabonim who protect molesters. And most of all, we must bash ourselves.
ALL OF US MUST SHOW THIS ARTICLE TO FIVE RABONIM BY SHABBOS.
DO IT
MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
PRINT THIS OUT AND SHARE IT WITH RABBIS WHO PROP UP THIS CORRUPTION
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:17 PM yitzchok Says:
Dov Hikind take off the gloves. People don't want to take care of this problem within, that's fine. Bring in the DA, maybe after someone goes to jail.....
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:21 PM Anonymous Says:
My heart goes out to Rabbi Bentzion Twerski and his family. What this tremendous person could have done to help our community and the victims therein is endless, and what a tragedy that R' Twerski was forced to step down!!
What is going on here???
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Sep 10, 2008 at 06:13 PM Pearl Herzog Says:
Hashem should heal the sick people who have violated vulnerable children.
Hashem should send a refuah sheleimah to the demented people who have threatened Rabbi Twerski.
Rabbi Twerski, for the dozens of people who have intimidated you, there are tens of thousands of people who applaud you.
As a rebbeshi einikel, you should have bitachon that shidduchim are from the Ribbono shel olan. You don't want to meshadech with those types anyway. They don't come to your pinky.
You also don't want your children being educated by ignorant boors.
Make your holy ancestors proud! please retract your resignation.
Participate in this very very holy endeavor.
If anyone threatens not to take you child or grandchild, it may be because he is a molestor and is afraid of exposure.
Tell him, you wonder if he is reacting like that because he is afraid he may be exposed himself.
Send around a petition. You will see how many signatures you will get who want you to pursue this holy endeavor.
It is a milchemes mitzvoh!!!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:31 PM Anonymous Says:
Rabbi T- You are abroigating your responsibility to the molested and the abused and you will pay for your cowardice in Heaven. Shame on you for caving in. You have the press behind you , the media, DOv, Rabbi Horowitz, and you cave in to their foolish demands. Appeasement does not work, we all know that. You should rejoin the struggle, name names, publicize their evil deeds, and collect your reward in Heaven like every other long suffering Askan. Your capitulation for your Family or other reasons is beyond belief after you have been such a great leader in this arena. Go to the Rabbonim and ask for their support, go to the the leaders of those who attack you and work to have them ostracized. To cave in is to condemn countless souls who for looking up to you. J'Accuse.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:31 PM Moishe Zichmach Says:
First nuchem rosenberg now twersky? I think its time for the people to say enough. We are at war. Playing nice is over. Let's take it to the streets. Let's get the govern$ent involved. This our jihad. We can fight too. Hashem imuni! Let's roll!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:37 PM Anonymous Says:
Its incredible how a few looney characters control an entire community and call themselves askunim. I just found out that two boys were molested this summer in the m. camp by a yingerman counchler,I nstead of throwing the bum out they kept him on staff p[roviding he keep his distance from campers. The corruption is incrdeible. I have a friend who years ago was kicked out of a yeshiva for keeping a daily news hidden in hi closet but known older gay molesters were allowed to stay in the yeshiva. somethings wrong.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:38 PM murray Says:
I have a bullet proof vest I can donate to the Rabbi. This is a serious offer, Not a sick joke. There is No doubt that all the "flak" he would be taking for pursuing this in earnest would at some point not be limited to Verbal abuse,and idle threats. Don't think for a moment that if some big shot in the community was about to be exposed and prosecuted they would have any qualms about silencing their accusers, they alredy have demonstrated an eager willingness to sin, and commit horrible crimes.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:35 PM The Boys Says:
Please publish names of the Pigs that are harrasing Rabbi Twerski. My friends & I are rady to take action.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:43 PM Lock & Load Says:
Rabbi Twersky I fully undestand you....
Your Not a Coward.....
All of us Normal People would do the Same...
His Family comes First....
The Cowards are the Parents of these Children....
You take the Law in your Hands and deel with it Later....
LOCK & LOAD
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:47 PM MARK Says:
DOV YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AFRAID OF THREATS IN THE OLD DAYS YOU WERE TOUGH HANG IN THERE MAYER A
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:46 PM murray Says:
How dare you insult the Rabbi, imply cowardice!
Why do all you posters out there assume that the detractors of Rabbi Twerski, as well as the molesters are "civilized" enough to keep their threats and abuse in the Verbal zone, and not turn physical? I submit to you that they have (the sexual abusers) sufficiently demonstrated that they are capable of anything.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:45 PM Heimish Yid Says:
Dear Dr. Twersky,
Do not be discouraged! I too have been an askin in the community and know that at times it is a "thankless" job! Yet I continue on in my own quiet way and do not expect any appreciation or thank yous, and when I finally do receive it, its a bonus! We all know how hard you have worked and will continue to work helping the "klal.! Keep up the great work and may Hashem help you to continue your "heilige" work!!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:48 PM Anonymous Says:
it might as well be tisha bav today because thats how bad it is
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:53 PM What???? Says:
To Anon at 5:51 ----
Daas Torah would make threats and "pressure" like that? What Daas Torah do you listen to????
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Sep 10, 2008 at 07:59 PM Anonymous Says:
while it is sad that Rosenberg and twersky left. I am sorry to say the one who should be protecting the children are the parents themselves. Stop crying that you are not getting help from so and so from this rov and that rabbie. Protecting your children is you main job, go to the police protect your children, otherwise you are negligent in you duties as a parent.
This is a law enforcement issue, not an halacha issue. The rabbis are simply not up to the task.
History should tell you in crisis situations listening to you rebbe is detrimental to you and your families lives
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:17 PM Anonymous Says:
Mi Keamcha Yisroel.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:16 PM Anonymous Says:
Rabbi Twersky I fully understand you!
Your Not a Coward!
your NAME dos not have to be on it but i know you will
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:16 PM dun l'chof z'chus Says:
Victim#'s comment should make on recognize that the damage done through inaction reaches far beyond those directly harmed. The anger and frustration over the failure of those who should know better, should do better, has the potential to overwhelm the forbearance of even the strongest among us. Enraged by the enormity of the offense and the criminal negligence of doing nothing, one's capacity to contain one's fury leads eventually, to the breaching of both the laws of man and G-d and this speeds the downward spiral towards societal breakdown and chaos.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:13 PM Anonymous Says:
Bullys are full of bluff. It;s about time we called their bluff and let them fall flat on their faces.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:12 PM Anonymous Says:
People can only be threatened if they agree to cave in to blackmail. Rabbi Twersky should not have caved in, but rather had bitachon that "shliach mitzvah ayno nezoykin" and he should have had faith that Hashem would protect him and his family.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:10 PM Mommy Says:
It's so sad that in our community our OWN people are dumb and deaf! Now all the molesters know that in the jewish community it's ok to molest kids because NOTHING will be done about it. PLEASE prove them wrong! They should be named in newspapers and radios. SHAME ON THEM and SHAME on the so called RABONEM!!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:09 PM PLEASE Says:
Please start publishing the names of the people who have molested children.The kehilla has the right to know
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:28 PM Heimish Yid Says:
Ok, All of you are angry, All of you want to do something? So lets do it! We can, Do You all Hear, WE CAN BEAT THE SYSTEM...In numbers. LETS MAKE A COMMUNITY MEETING! ALL OF THE MEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FROM ALL CHASIDISHE BACKGROUNDS..LETS GET TOGETHER AND WE WILL HOLD A MEETING AND TOGETHER WE CAN STORM ALL THE DOORS OF ALL THE KEHILLAHS AND STOP THIS ABUSE!! TOGETHER! LETS ORGANIZE THIS! THEY CAN NOT STOP HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER!! LETS HAVE SOMEONE ORGANIZE THIS COMMUNITY MEETING! SEND OUT FLYERS...COME ON DOV HIKIND HELP US START THIS MEETING TOGETHER....
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:51 PM An unforgiving victim Says:
Heimish Yid, "Lets Roll" get this going!
These so called askanim and rabonim are nothing but scum and should burn in hell, Dov keep it up, you have the support of many more than you think you have. Rabbi/Dr. twerski, you should be blessed no matter what your final decision is.
To everyone else out there lets heed heimesh yids advice and organize a huge protest or maybe a yom tefilla for all the victims of clergy abuse.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:47 PM rn in bp Says:
Rabbi Twersky is a true tzaddik. I myself have in the past undertaken to pay for therapy of a freind of mine who is addicted to drugs. Rabbi twersky agreed to help the patient running up a bill of alot of money which he never wanted to collect. Rabbi Twersky is a true oved shelo al m'nas lekabel pras, and I am sure that he only wants to do what he feels is best for klal Yisroel. So Rabbi Twerski, don't be discouraged by all of the nameless cowards who are trying to take you down. Hashem knows the truth. Schorco harbe meod!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:39 PM Anonymous Says:
Like a slingshot....2 steps backwards....will catapult us forward with great speed and strength
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Sep 10, 2008 at 08:34 PM The All Have Skeletons in Their Closet Says:
Those "Rabbis" who threatened him and forced him to resign, do so for "good reason", Rachmono Litzlan.
The All Have Skeletons in Their Closet!
They are defending "their own", Hashem Yishmarenu.
Yes, every one of them have what to fear, if the Molesters are eradicated because like Rabbi Kolko from Torah Temima, all other such Molesters also threaten their superiors that if they Rat on them, they will Rat BACK on their Superiors (mosdos financial matters or about their superiors other "good deeds").
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Sep 10, 2008 at 09:07 PM Anonymous Says:
I think we need to threaten back.. I have some very damaging evidence regarding a certain very popular rebbe's siblings.. I would never go public stam because it would not acomplish anything and is lashon harah.. but I think someone needs to threaten those that are issuing threats.. fight fire with fire..
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Sep 10, 2008 at 09:06 PM Anonymous Says:
maybe we should take our children and put them in public schools or home school,it might be safer.Don't the yeshivas understand this is for there good? besides it's free.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 09:44 PM Anonymous Says:
OK Folks! Quit belly aching. What have YOU done to help yourself or the community in regard to this issue. Blame yourself if you havent bothered to call Dov Hikind and be him mechazek. Let everyone here call Dov Hikind's Boro Park office and voice support for his effort. He too will eventualy tire from this battle if we do not voice our support. GET OFF YOU COLLECTIVE A__ES AND CALL DOV TO SUPPORT THE CAUSE!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 09:37 PM anonymous Says:
I see where he is coming from. I used to try to help these kids too, and stopped one guy going after young girls.. Two people came after me with frivolous false cases that I had to defend against with money from my own pocket that I didn't have. My insurance didn't cover it either. All you big talkers out there - did you donate to cover insurance or the lawsuits for these askanim? You talk big but until each one of you shell out money to cover the harrassment lawsuits that inevitably any askan will face and the insurance to boot - you have no right, absolutely no right to talk. Sure you stand right behind Rabbi Twerski - 100 feet behind.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 09:50 PM Anonymous Says:
i called
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Sep 10, 2008 at 10:16 PM Anonymous Says:
There is a special place in gehenim for molesters and anyone that protects them.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM JOSEPH Says:
THE IDIOTS WHO FORCED ROSENBERGS HOTLINE TO CLOSE CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS TOO MUCH SEXUAL STUFF ON THERE FOR THE BOCHURIM TO LISTEN TO
FOOLS!!!!! ANY BOCHUR THROUGH A CELL PHONE COULD GET 100 TIMES MORE SEXUAL STUFF THANTHIS HOTLINE BUT THE RABONNIM PUT THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND AND WORSE ENABLE THE MOLESTERS
INSTEAD THEY ARE BUSY WITH LIPA CONCERTS GOLD AND SILVER SHOES
AND THE LATEST IDIOCY THAT WOMEN WHO GO TO WEDDINGS NEED TO WEAR AN OVERCOAT TO COVER THE NICE DRESSES THAT THEY ARE WEARING
SOUNDS TO ME THAT THEY ARE THE ONES WITH HIGH LEVELS OF TESTOSTRONE
THIS WILL ONLY CHANGE WHEN WE THE CONSUMER(YES ITS ALL A BUISNESS THE RABBONUS) WILL NOT TOLERATE IT ANYMORE
WHY DID THE SCHOOLS OPPOSE THE MANDATORY BACKROUND CHECKS THAT WERE PROPOSED FOR ALL SCHOOLS
WHY HASNT THE ABUSE PROBLEM BEEN ADDRESSED AT EVERY PTA AND ALONG WITH THE STUPID SCHOOL SUPPLY LIST AND SIGING THAT YOY HAVE NO TV ETCAND THAT YOU WILL ONLY WEAR A WHITE SHIRT ETC
WE LIVE IN A SICK SOCIETY
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE HAVE KOSHER LAMPS NON SLIP TALEISIM AND OTHER VERY IMPORTANT ITEMS
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Sep 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM Frum yid Says:
anon 9:07
If you think that you have some damaging stuff about a popular rebbe's siblings and they are to do with molestation, then you are endangering children's lives every day. LOSHON HORO???????
Learn the halachos, and you will see that not only is this not loshon hora, but it is a mitzvah d'oraisa to release this information to the authorities. If you do have this info and are holding it back as ammo, then you are just as malicious as these disgusting molestors
I sincerely hope that this isn't the case!!!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 09:51 PM JS Says:
I don't know why I, of all people, should have to teach a great and respected rabbi some Tanach, but apparently even the greatest amongst us lose their way occasionally. Anyone in a position to do so, please pass this on to Rav Twerski:
יב וַיַּגִּידוּ לְמָרְדֳּכָי, אֵת דִּבְרֵי אֶסְתֵּר.
יג וַיֹּאמֶר מָרְדֳּכַי, לְהָשִׁיב אֶל-אֶסְתֵּר: אַל-תְּדַמִּי בְנַפְשֵׁךְ, לְהִמָּלֵט בֵּית-הַמֶּלֶךְ מִכָּל-הַיְּהוּדִים.
יד כִּי אִם-הַחֲרֵשׁ תַּחֲרִישִׁי, בָּעֵת הַזֹּאת--רֶוַח וְהַצָּלָה יַעֲמוֹד לַיְּהוּדִים מִמָּקוֹם אַחֵר, וְאַתְּ וּבֵית-אָבִיךְ תֹּאבֵדוּ; וּמִי יוֹדֵעַ--אִם-לְעֵת כָּזֹאת, הִגַּעַתְּ לַמַּלְכוּת.
טו וַתֹּאמֶר אֶסְתֵּר, לְהָשִׁיב אֶל-מָרְדֳּכָי.
טז לֵךְ כְּנוֹס אֶת-כָּל-הַיְּהוּדִים הַנִּמְצְאִים בְּשׁוּשָׁן, וְצוּמוּ עָלַי וְאַל-תֹּאכְלוּ וְאַל-תִּשְׁתּוּ שְׁלֹשֶׁת יָמִים לַיְלָה וָיוֹם--גַּם-אֲנִי וְנַעֲרֹתַי, אָצוּם כֵּן; וּבְכֵן אָבוֹא אֶל-הַמֶּלֶךְ, אֲשֶׁר לֹא-כַדָּת, וְכַאֲשֶׁר אָבַדְתִּי, אָבָדְתִּי.
Translation with some liberties:
12. And Ester's servants told Mordechai [that Ester was reluctant to carry out her dangerous mission]
13. So Mordechai told the servants to respond to Ester, "Do not remain silent! Do not think that [by shirking your duties] you will remain safe while only other Jews are harmed.
14. Because if you are silent at this time [when you can be of greatest help] salvation and relief will come from another source. Furthermore, you and your whole family will be destroyed! For who knows? Maybe you rose to this position of power specifically to be of help in this very circumstance!"
15. So Ester replied to Mordechai saying,
16. "Go, gather all of the Jews and have them fast and repent for my well-being. Tell them to not eat or drink, day or night, for three days. I too will fast and repent. Afterwards, I will [perform this dangerous duty]. And if great harm should come to me [or my family], so be it!
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Sep 10, 2008 at 09:34 PM Anonymous Says:
PS to Heimish Yid
If you do not want to that far at least get parents to take their children out of know molester protecting yeshivas Like torath temmema and satmer.
Hit them in their pocket book. And please no idiot comments saying "how could you, you are taking away parnasha from a yid" get over it yes we are and that is the point
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Sep 10, 2008 at 09:29 PM Anonymous Says:
To Heimish Yid Says:
Please do something but do not start a lynch mob. when a group takes matter in its own hands emotions take over and it could lead to serious mistakes.
Get together have a meeting nominate a spokesman or woman (someone with big who will not be intimidated or enjoys the challenge or someone single who has less to lose) and speak to the police and or Brooklyn DA and say, we had enough we will help you prosecute and bring the molesters to trial jew non-jew religious rabbie, even our leaders we do not care. Ask, what are you working on, we will help, we will get the community to help, don't go to our leaders when it comes to this issue we do not trust our leaders. Believe it or not in most cases the police and the da are there to help. But they need the community help to help the community.
I know that the DA's office would love the help from the community and would love to get these guys of the street.
It would be a waste of time to convince some or all that the rabbis have dropped to ball on this issue, those will never ever think that their leader did anything wrong. Just look for like minded people
If you wait for the gedolem to do something, I afraid to say you will wait till the end of time
MY 2 cents
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Sep 10, 2008 at 09:10 PM Anonymous Says:
Anonymous Says:
comments - arrow If this is a result of stam people making him crazy then I beg Rabbi twerski to rethink his decision as we all must strengthen our Bitachon in the RBS"O that it is HE and no one else who controls the world and ours is the job of doing for the Kllal. Hashem will protect him and guide him. If this is a result of Daas Torah pressuring him to not do this then he is commended for stepping down but questioned as to why share publicly the frustration. We must follow our Gedolim like it or not - this is the lesson from last weeks Parsha.
09-10-2008 - 5:51 PM
We must follow our Gedolim like it or not - this is the lesson from last weeks Parsha.
Not matter how they have forsaken you, even if you know within your heart in a case that they are wrong (misjudgment on their part to be nice) you would still listen to them? Are you a thinking person or a robot?
Sorry, from other article recently posted some times gedolem are wrong, they are wrong now to protect the the molester, as they where wrong during WWII telling people like you who listened,
stay here do not go to a treif country like USA and Israel and or other. Funny how they themselves and their families packed their own bags to the very treif countries.
Please look at the gedolem for advoce but due think on your owm.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM Rabbi I cry for You, and Klal Yisroel Says:
On the bright side at least we know Moshich is getting closer.
Truth into lies, lies into truth.
Rabbi try to remember for the next time ( this project obviously extracted too high a price)
That we ( I too want to say enough when I am asked for help and then abused) do the chesed because we are supposed to and not allow the ignorant , to bring us down to their level.
I have often said do good and tell the truth not because the person you deal with will respond in kind, but rather do not allow yourself to let them bring you down to the gutter where they live.
Wishing you a Chasiva V’Chasima Toiva
Respectively yours;
An admirer
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Sep 10, 2008 at 11:37 PM anonymous Says:
Ten years ago we had a known molester arrested. Of course we discussed this with a few rabbonim first. They all begged us not to have this pervert arrested and said they would take care of this problem. We asked them how they would take care of it, since it had been going on for years with their knowledge. THEY HAD NO ANSWER.
We went ahead and had this sick man arrested. Community asskonim got involved and he only got 30 days house arrest. The night before his sentencing he attacked a 15 year old boy whose father was too cowardly to press charges.
Our community has a problem. They don't care enough to make sure that the molester doesn't hurt the next child, or their own next child.
Their complete lack of bitachon makes them afraid that this would hurt their shidduch chances.
PLEASE, if this should cholila happen to your own child, PRESS CHARGES. You wouldn't allow a murderer to run loose. MOLESTERS ARE MURDERERS.
Askonim shouldn't have to do the work that belongs to the parents.
DO THE RIGHT THING.
The 71st precinct in Crown Heights has a very helpful sex crimes unit. CALL IF YOU NEED THEM.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 11:36 PM Anonymous Says:
And where is "daas torah " on this issue?
Where is Aguda on this issue? Will this be talked upon and mentioned at the convention or will the Agudah people whimp out and rather talk about bugs in strawberries and bugs in water and all the other &*%#% that they think is more important than a few molestors running around and ruining our children?
Anyone in a position that CAN do something about this problem and sits by is a fool and a jerk for not doing the right thing.
Rabbi Twerski is worried about shiduchim for his granchildren instead of doing the RIGHT thing?
Rabbi Twerski must be out of his mind now or there is more to the story which is not being told?
I would be inclined to do with a shidduch with a family that could have made a difference in peoples lives but decided to sit by because of shidduchim for their kids? \
Did Rabbi Twerski ask gedolim in Eretz Yisroel if he could leave the position?
Imagine moses dealing with this! Moses would have stayed another 40 years rather than see all the garbage that has sepped into our communities.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 11:34 PM Anonymous Says:
I GUESS THE UNDERGROUND MOLESTERS GROUP WENT AFTER DR TWERSKI. WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH DR. TWERSKI IS A REAL MESCH AND A TZADIK.
I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED IF THIS SAME (MOLESTERS)GROUP HAD TO DO WITH BANNING THE BIG EVENT CONCERT, BANNING STRAWBERRIES,BANNANAS, CORN FLAKES, CHOCOLATE PUDDING, SOCKS WITH POCA-DOTS ECT. WHAT A CIRCUS!! OR IS IT PERHAPS SERIOUS?? I DONT EVEN KNOW ANYMORE. HOW SAD?? WHAT HAVE WE COME TO.??
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Sep 10, 2008 at 11:08 PM rene lowy Says:
This comes from a community which has shunned me and many other "modern Orthodox" women like myself because my sleeves were "too short." This in itself is indicative of a community which cannot deal with or face anything out of the norm, their norm. So why should it surprise anyone that the same individuals choose to sweep the huge (and very real) problem of molestation, from within, under the carpet? It is far easier to focus on the length of one's sleeves than deal with the real tragic issues which we are not immune to. The tragedy is that no amount of sweeping will make the problem disappear.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 11:43 PM Anonymous Says:
I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED IF THIS SAME (MOLESTERS)GROUP HAD TO DO WITH BANNING THE BIG EVENT CONCERT, BANNING STRAWBERRIES,BANNANAS, CORN FLAKES, CHOCOLATE PUDDING, SOCKS WITH POCA-DOTS ECT. WHAT A CIRCUS!! OR IS IT PERHAPS SERIOUS?? I DONT EVEN KNOW ANYMORE. HOW SAD?? WHAT HAVE WE COME TO.??
09-10-2008 - 11:34 PM
Lipa is so scared to death about singing that he will be at the next circus but not sing.
All the singers will just be on stage and stand there now. And we have to pay 50.00 to see singers stand there like dopes now?
Judiasm is becoming a circus. the BIG jewish philisophical discussions of the last three years have been dealing with bugs in water, cost of pizza, gas prices, bugs in shaitels, the burning of wigs and the stupidity goes on and on.
When someone wants to become a jew we are supposed to tell them not to and convince them not to want to become a jew. If you want to stop a goy from becoming jewish tell them to just read vosizneias and that will do the trick.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 11:42 PM Anonymous Says:
Why isn't anyone crossing the street or withdrawing shidduchim from the rabbanim who come out with ridiculous gezeras about music? Have the Jewish people completely lost their minds and priorities? Rabbi Twersky, we need you and more like you to save us from ourselves.
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Sep 10, 2008 at 11:41 PM Anonymous Says:
wonderful!!! someone tries to stand up and gets sent packing.... Where is Moshe and Aharon and the true leaders of our people????????? not the so called frummies
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Sep 11, 2008 at 12:03 AM Anonymous Says:
Frum yid,
Its not molestation, its incense and I cant go public based on what said rebbe's brother in law told me..
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Sep 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM Truth Says:
The truth is this. Rabbi twersky was against the show DOV HIKIND did this past weekend when he took advantage of a couple and mostly the husband (david) and asked him very personal and graphic questions. Rabbi Twersky is a professional and understands that this was totaly not helpful for the public and will not benefit those that were molested. The show was more like Jerry Springer and Rabbi Twersky knows that and does not want to be involved in something like this. There may have been people that made comments to him about this and therfore he stopped. I'm telling you that for dov to do this on a radio show when in fact he is not a therapist himself is a peoblem. The fact that Dov is bringing awareness to the issue is ok but to take advantage of this poor sole David is beyond what he should do.
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Sep 11, 2008 at 06:59 AM Anonymous Says:
What is happening in REAL LIFE?
Well, in real life:
1- Rabbis are going out of their way to protect the perverts among them.
2- Rabbis are fleecing, abusing and blackmailing their powerless alien employees.
3- Rabbis are using goon squads to beatup, shut in, and pour acid on the faces of our "immodestly dressed" wives and daughters.
4- Rabbis are daring to pass judgment on the victims of the Holocaust.
5- Rabbis are encouraging our sons to lead lives of dependency and shiftlessness, while hating the very Israeli government that supports and protects them.
6- Rabbis are choking the joy out of Judaism by making EVERYTHING Halachically micromanaged. They have made Pesach into a nightmare.
7- Rabbis are forcing singers to include Haskamot (endorsements) in their musical albums.
8- Rabbis via Artscroll are idealizing and whitewashing recent European jew