Welcome, Guest! - or
Easy to remember!  »  VinNews.com

New York - 30 Caught In Orange County Welfare Sting: Officials Vow To Continue Pursuing Fraudsters

Published on: July 1, 2015 11:39 AM
Change text size Text Size  

New York - Two Kiryas Joel residents were named among thirty defendants who allegedly obtained over $300,000 in public assistance and have been charged with welfare fraud by Orange County officials.

An announcement made at a press conference this morning held by Orange County District Attorney David Hoovler, who was joined by County Executive Steve Neuhaus and Sheriff Carl DuBois, detailed $324,793.85 of fraudulently obtained benefits by those 30 defendants through the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, Temporary Assistance Benefits and bogus Medicaid payments.  Today’s announcement marks Hoovler’s third fraud enforcement sweep in Orange County since taking office in 2014, and to date 97 individuals have been charged with welfare fraud to the tune of $1,073,676.33.

One Kiryas Joel resident was charged with Welfare Fraud in the 2nd Degree for having illegally received $61,442.27 in Medicaid benefits to which he was not entitled, with his solely owned  corporation facing the same charges for underreporting the individual’s income.

Advertisement:

A second village resident was charged with Welfare Fraud in the 3rd Degree for having fraudulently received $21,133.91 in unentitled Medicaid benefits. His Subchapter S corporation is also facing the same charges for helping the defendant underreport his income by structuring draws from the business to make him appear Medicaid eligible and for creating false documents understating his income.

If convicted, the two men could potentially face maximum prison sentences of 5 to 15 years and 2 1/3 to 7  years, respectively.

Several different county agencies were involved in the sweep, including the Department of Social Services Special Investigation Unit, which reviewed files of possible fraud suspects and interviewed those individuals before forwarding the cases to the district attorney’s office.  A large number of those arrested were interviewed by both the district attorney’s and sheriff’s offices before any arrests were made.

At this morning’s press conference, Neuhaus reiterated the county’s tough stance on those who would abuse the welfare system.

“Since taking office in January of 2014, District Attorney David Hoovler and I have had a zero-tolerance policy on people abusing the Social Services system,” said Neuhaus at a press conference this morning.  “We have used all of our resources to enforce the laws and bring people abusing them to justice.”

“My office remains a committed partner to the District Attorney’s office and continues to assist in these investigations that take money away from those in true need of public assistance,” added Sheriff DuBois.


More of today's headlines

White Plains, NY - Former Democratic state Sen. Malcolm Smith was sentenced Wednesday to seven years in prison in a scheme to bribe his way onto the ballot for the 2013... London - Nicholas Winton, a humanitarian who almost single-handedly saved more than 650 Jewish children from the Holocaust, earning himself the label "Britain's...

 

Total60

Read Comments (60)  —  Post Yours »

1

 Jul 01, 2015 at 11:51 AM lavrenty Says:

THIS is why the people in Monroe dont want to be annexed by KJ, NOT anti-Semitism.

2

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:01 PM its about time Says:

I'm Glad, these all 30 people should be prosecuted to the letter of the law. Its blatant geneiva, not to mention stealing from the middle class in this country the only class to support all these leida geiers and their million dollar lifestyles.

3

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:05 PM Anonymous Says:

Kol hakovod to the Orange County DA's office and others who investigated this fraud by the KJ mafia and brought charges against those Satmar who cheat the rest of us out of our hard earned dollars that the government takes from us to pay welfare. They should suspend ALL the KJ welfare takers until they can confirm those who are legally entitled to receive funding. Those charged with fraud should be sent to jail for as long as possible.

4

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:19 PM git gezukt Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

Kol hakovod to the Orange County DA's office and others who investigated this fraud by the KJ mafia and brought charges against those Satmar who cheat the rest of us out of our hard earned dollars that the government takes from us to pay welfare. They should suspend ALL the KJ welfare takers until they can confirm those who are legally entitled to receive funding. Those charged with fraud should be sent to jail for as long as possible.

bravo, I agree with you.

5

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:22 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
its about time Says:

I'm Glad, these all 30 people should be prosecuted to the letter of the law. Its blatant geneiva, not to mention stealing from the middle class in this country the only class to support all these leida geiers and their million dollar lifestyles.

Right! Stealing from the middle class taxes and money that should be used for the poor. Throw the book at these ganovim!

6

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:32 PM Mk Says:

Reply to #1  
lavrenty Says:

THIS is why the people in Monroe dont want to be annexed by KJ, NOT anti-Semitism.

Hay, 2 out of 30 non KJ ppl

7

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:34 PM Ina Says:

How did they pinpoint and discover the fraud?

8

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:37 PM Yoely boy Says:

Wake up people get the message stop it now if your not eligible for welfare don't take thell go after YOU the good days are over!! These people were probably not aware, my neighbors does it so i can as well!

9

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:39 PM wednesday Says:

New York - Two Kiryas Joel residents were named among thirty defendants who allegedly obtained over $300,000 in public assistance and have been charged with welfare fraud by Orange County officials.

there were 30 ppl in orange county... why are they picking on the 2 KJ Residents???? yes I'd call this anti semitism!!!

10

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:40 PM eli845 Says:

#1 #2 and #3 I understand why you are upset I pay for that too. But you sound like all 30 are from Kj its 2 out of 30. So lets see 2 out of 30 so #1 that is the annexation problem? It's 28 not part of Kj that got arrested. So yes they should know better 100% I agree. But to say you are happy that a Jew is going to jail? Hemm think about it again and ask your competent rabbi if its OK to be happy about that.....

11

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:47 PM savtainsandiego Says:

If they are guilty the should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This is a Chillul Hashem. When I was a welfare worker it was my pleasure to be able to help those who needed it but a few clients told me they "know how to milk the system" which made me question people's honesty. The entire welfare system needs to be scrapped, restructured, and new rules put into effect. There should be a time limit and money cap for each recipient. Welfare should be a temporary fix - not a lifestyle. Those who abuse the system need to be dealt with swiftly and prevented from receiving future benefits. This is a big shonda!!!

12

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:52 PM LuckyStrike Says:

A Question For Satmar Chevra, Particularly Aharonies. This isn't the 1st time this has happened. Does the Rebbe ever speak out against these types of things? If not why?

13

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:51 PM hard working woman Says:

All these people should go to jail and pay the consequences. They are all outright thieves--they stole from ME!! Yes--ME! I have been a hard working member of the workforce as have each member of my family, both immediate and extended. We have all been taught properly. Any government benefit that you are not entitled to is pure theft. All the benefits need to be left for those who truly need it like those who work and just can't make it or someone who is handicapped to the extent that he/she cannot work. The fact that two frum people are part of the indictment is a disgrace--a chilul Hashem and quite frankly I am so sick and tired of hearing about frum people in the notorious news. What will they answer the Ribono Shel Olam after 120?

14

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Looks to me like comments 1,2,3,4 is the same person a self hatting jew that
Usaley gets very excited when jews get arrested

In fact he got so excited one comment wasent enough for him he had to do it 4 times

15

 Jul 01, 2015 at 01:06 PM Yossi Says:

Shame on those are happy to see Jews go to jail. IF they are guilty, then what they did is wrong. But the comments here differ little from comments we would expect from Jew-Haters.

16

 Jul 01, 2015 at 01:06 PM Outsider Says:

Yes, I do get the fact that those guilty should be punished. I work for every penny and a pang of jealousy goes through me when I see people in line buying what I consider luxury items as SNAP's expense.
Having stated the above, I see that 28/30 were not in Kiryas Joel. So who emphasized the two? Was it a Government official fomenting racism or was it the press?

17

 Jul 01, 2015 at 01:12 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
LuckyStrike Says:

A Question For Satmar Chevra, Particularly Aharonies. This isn't the 1st time this has happened. Does the Rebbe ever speak out against these types of things? If not why?

Since the rabbi does not read VIn u will need to call him

18

 Jul 01, 2015 at 01:37 PM LionofZion Says:

Reply to #9  
wednesday Says:

New York - Two Kiryas Joel residents were named among thirty defendants who allegedly obtained over $300,000 in public assistance and have been charged with welfare fraud by Orange County officials.

there were 30 ppl in orange county... why are they picking on the 2 KJ Residents???? yes I'd call this anti semitism!!!

Shoitah, you are reading Vosisneis, so yes, the article points out that two KJ residents were arrested. The Times Herald Record di not write headline, VIN did, because its readers are interested in reading about members of the Jewish community.
You are very quick to yell anti-Semitism, but the anti-Semites are the ones with beards and Peyos who do follow Torah and the law. They make us all look bad, and Hashem look bad too.

19

 Jul 01, 2015 at 01:59 PM BarryLS1 Says:

Reply to #9  
wednesday Says:

New York - Two Kiryas Joel residents were named among thirty defendants who allegedly obtained over $300,000 in public assistance and have been charged with welfare fraud by Orange County officials.

there were 30 ppl in orange county... why are they picking on the 2 KJ Residents???? yes I'd call this anti semitism!!!

so, Jews making a Chillul Hashem and getting caught is anti-semitism? Therein lies the problem, we should be outraged by these behavior, not making excuses for it.

Also, they weren't "picking" on them and ignoring the others.

20

 Jul 01, 2015 at 02:09 PM wsbrgh Says:

It's hard to find anyone who gets any type of help from any gov't agency who doesn't get some type of accusations- rightly or wrongly.

21

 Jul 01, 2015 at 02:29 PM lavrenty Says:

the solution to all these problems is VERY simple, scrap food stamps, WIC, SECTION 8, Medicaid and other Marxist programs and no more fraud. DOWN WITH AMERICAn welfare system.

22

 Jul 01, 2015 at 02:32 PM ALTERG Says:

Reply to #17  
Anonymous Says:

Since the rabbi does not read VIn u will need to call him

Lol

23

 Jul 01, 2015 at 02:42 PM lazerx Says:

when a frum Jew is caught stealing, it is a chillul haShem. It is among the worst sins and t'shuva is very difficult to achieve.

24

 Jul 01, 2015 at 02:56 PM A Says:

Reply to #20  
wsbrgh Says:

It's hard to find anyone who gets any type of help from any gov't agency who doesn't get some type of accusations- rightly or wrongly.

Very true. It's very sad that poor people are hated this much.

25

 Jul 01, 2015 at 03:00 PM A Says:

Reply to #21  
lavrenty Says:

the solution to all these problems is VERY simple, scrap food stamps, WIC, SECTION 8, Medicaid and other Marxist programs and no more fraud. DOWN WITH AMERICAn welfare system.

What an excellent suggestion! In fact why don't we just put a bullet in the brains of every poor or disabled person that needs help, that's much cheaper than helping to feed, clothe, and house them all. A bullet costs less than a dollar (and you can probably get it even cheaper if you buy in bulk), much cheaper than paying for all that medical care, etc. You should run for President.

26

 Jul 01, 2015 at 03:03 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #23  
lazerx Says:

when a frum Jew is caught stealing, it is a chillul haShem. It is among the worst sins and t'shuva is very difficult to achieve.

So are u usaley talking to people who commit BIG sins, Is this a new job for you?

27

 Jul 01, 2015 at 03:15 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #23  
lazerx Says:

when a frum Jew is caught stealing, it is a chillul haShem. It is among the worst sins and t'shuva is very difficult to achieve.

I have news for you, when any Jew commits a BIG SIN it is a chillul haShem dosent matter if u frum or not, the fact u are not frum will not help u when time comes


We should all worry about our own sins not others

28

 Jul 01, 2015 at 04:23 PM Anonymous Says:

The IRS and FBI have been investigating Ramapo people longer than they have been investigating in KJ. I can't wait to read their findings! A lot of neighbors I know are afraid to go to sleep at night for fear of the FBI knocking at their doors.

29

 Jul 01, 2015 at 04:24 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #26  
Anonymous Says:

So are u usaley talking to people who commit BIG sins, Is this a new job for you?

"So are u usaley talking to people who commit BIG sins,"

What is "usaley"? Your lack of an education is evident, so your comments are irrelevant.

30

 Jul 01, 2015 at 04:40 PM LuckyStrike Says:

Reply to #17  
Anonymous Says:

Since the rabbi does not read VIn u will need to call him

Its about time he starts! He'll learn a thing or two about his kehilla!

31

 Jul 01, 2015 at 05:13 PM UseYourHead Says:

People who cheat and steal in this manner prolong golus and delay the geulah. Woe unto those who behave in such a manner.

32

 Jul 01, 2015 at 05:18 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

Kol hakovod to the Orange County DA's office and others who investigated this fraud by the KJ mafia and brought charges against those Satmar who cheat the rest of us out of our hard earned dollars that the government takes from us to pay welfare. They should suspend ALL the KJ welfare takers until they can confirm those who are legally entitled to receive funding. Those charged with fraud should be sent to jail for as long as possible.

Do you also recommend they check the status of black welfare recipients as well? Or just those of the heimisher bigots?

33

 Jul 01, 2015 at 05:21 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
savtainsandiego Says:

If they are guilty the should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This is a Chillul Hashem. When I was a welfare worker it was my pleasure to be able to help those who needed it but a few clients told me they "know how to milk the system" which made me question people's honesty. The entire welfare system needs to be scrapped, restructured, and new rules put into effect. There should be a time limit and money cap for each recipient. Welfare should be a temporary fix - not a lifestyle. Those who abuse the system need to be dealt with swiftly and prevented from receiving future benefits. This is a big shonda!!!

And welfare recipients should be made provide some type service for the city or government, in the form of a specific job, to repay the generosity funded by our tax dollars! Pick up a broom and sweep those city parks ! You'd see how fast half of them would drop out of the system,

34

 Jul 01, 2015 at 12:44 PM alterknaker Says:

To all KJ haters who point hatred towards them, i want to telll you 1 thing, not for a minute, not even for a half a minute am i fooling myself that you mamzeirim pay your taxes and duties to last penny, you guys are doing it in a different way, your days will also come, by the way im not chasiddish, nor sm i satmar,

35

 Jul 01, 2015 at 05:30 PM Anonymous Says:

Everybody is quick to come to conclusions when it comes to yidden. How about being dan l'kaf zechus. What they did was wrong, but how do you know in what situation they are. Living in America is very difficult in todays day. Are you all willing to support them? Tuition is expensive, health insurance is expensive, living expenses are outrageous. Kudos to all of you that can push through, but some can't . so think before you judge.

36

 Jul 01, 2015 at 06:16 PM villyamsburger Says:

I would not believe in my worst nightmare that one Yid would show such hate on another Yid.
We don't even know if the government is right maybe they are wrong. Not all arrests led to a guilty verdict.
Even if it does end with a guilty verdict hashem yerachem, haven't we seen how many cases were later turned over?!

Please be Dan Lkaf Zchus

37

 Jul 01, 2015 at 06:19 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #31  
UseYourHead Says:

People who cheat and steal in this manner prolong golus and delay the geulah. Woe unto those who behave in such a manner.

Do u know anything else
That prolong's golus or only two kj people receiving medicate ?

Please do tell !!

38

 Jul 01, 2015 at 06:23 PM DOVE1 Says:

Reply to #13  
hard working woman Says:

All these people should go to jail and pay the consequences. They are all outright thieves--they stole from ME!! Yes--ME! I have been a hard working member of the workforce as have each member of my family, both immediate and extended. We have all been taught properly. Any government benefit that you are not entitled to is pure theft. All the benefits need to be left for those who truly need it like those who work and just can't make it or someone who is handicapped to the extent that he/she cannot work. The fact that two frum people are part of the indictment is a disgrace--a chilul Hashem and quite frankly I am so sick and tired of hearing about frum people in the notorious news. What will they answer the Ribono Shel Olam after 120?

Hard working woman don't browse VIN in middle of the day ,GIME A BREAK

39

 Jul 01, 2015 at 06:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #29  
Anonymous Says:

"So are u usaley talking to people who commit BIG sins,"

What is "usaley"? Your lack of an education is evident, so your comments are irrelevant.

Your personal attacks and bad manners tells us all we need to know about your education,

Did u get your diploma from walmart ?

40

 Jul 01, 2015 at 06:47 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #29  
Anonymous Says:

"So are u usaley talking to people who commit BIG sins,"

What is "usaley"? Your lack of an education is evident, so your comments are irrelevant.

#26: The word is "usually" not "usaley."
#29: Your lack of compassion is evident, so your comment makes me cringe.

Do not judge others harshly lest we be judged. With the three weeks almost upon us, we should look to help and find the good in others.

41

 Jul 01, 2015 at 07:01 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
lavrenty Says:

THIS is why the people in Monroe dont want to be annexed by KJ, NOT anti-Semitism.

I think thats a very racist statement. You can't balme a whole community because of a few rotten eggs. But I will lay blame on those that collect programs legally. the tendency for the hiemisha to have large familes and go on programs is wide spread. While its totally legal, one may question the rightouisness of it. I don't think its anti semtic for citizens to say we can't afford to support those who choose that lifestyle. Thus we oppose annexation. There is even room within yiddishkit to debate if one should have a large family knwoingly that he will be a burden to society. And surely from a secular view, one should not have kids if he can't pay for them.

42

 Jul 01, 2015 at 07:48 PM ayoyo Says:

Only in the good old u.s .of a. are the poor and unfortunate belittled and held in contempt ,while the big thieves the ones with millions and billions keep on collecting lots of money from washington.The lobbyists are constantly busy seeing that their clients reap big sums from washington

43

 Jul 01, 2015 at 08:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Its not about hate it's about the good guy being vindicated some of u are right not everyone is perfect, maybe i don't declare the profit from a book i sold on ebay, or the state sales taxes i should have paid from an online vendor that didn't charge me tax but living off the government money is not the heart beat of bringing bread on my table at all.
I have to be up at the 6 am shachris to make ends meet. Mr. Welfare doesnt.
I need to work at least 40 hours a week for crap health insurance through my job. Mr medicaid doesn't
I can't afford meat for shabbos as the price is high given the SNAP subsidy. Mr foodstamp again no problem for the 14.99 rib steak.
I cant afford to go to the country as my rent is too high in the city already. Mr section 8 has no problem.
Do u see why the regular working guy is a happy camper today. Kain yirbu!

44

 Jul 01, 2015 at 09:17 PM Esther Says:

Reply to #18  
LionofZion Says:

Shoitah, you are reading Vosisneis, so yes, the article points out that two KJ residents were arrested. The Times Herald Record di not write headline, VIN did, because its readers are interested in reading about members of the Jewish community.
You are very quick to yell anti-Semitism, but the anti-Semites are the ones with beards and Peyos who do follow Torah and the law. They make us all look bad, and Hashem look bad too.

VIn is't supposed to allow pejoratives ie shoitah,idiot etc.

45

 Jul 01, 2015 at 09:19 PM Esther Says:

Reply to #34  
alterknaker Says:

To all KJ haters who point hatred towards them, i want to telll you 1 thing, not for a minute, not even for a half a minute am i fooling myself that you mamzeirim pay your taxes and duties to last penny, you guys are doing it in a different way, your days will also come, by the way im not chasiddish, nor sm i satmar,

You have to call us mamzerim??!!

46

 Jul 01, 2015 at 10:14 PM Twitter Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

Kol hakovod to the Orange County DA's office and others who investigated this fraud by the KJ mafia and brought charges against those Satmar who cheat the rest of us out of our hard earned dollars that the government takes from us to pay welfare. They should suspend ALL the KJ welfare takers until they can confirm those who are legally entitled to receive funding. Those charged with fraud should be sent to jail for as long as possible.

Really? Did you read the article before you posted this hateful message? 30 people were arrested. 2 out of 30 are from KJ and you are ranting about KJ Mafia.

47

 Jul 01, 2015 at 11:20 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #43  
Anonymous Says:

Its not about hate it's about the good guy being vindicated some of u are right not everyone is perfect, maybe i don't declare the profit from a book i sold on ebay, or the state sales taxes i should have paid from an online vendor that didn't charge me tax but living off the government money is not the heart beat of bringing bread on my table at all.
I have to be up at the 6 am shachris to make ends meet. Mr. Welfare doesnt.
I need to work at least 40 hours a week for crap health insurance through my job. Mr medicaid doesn't
I can't afford meat for shabbos as the price is high given the SNAP subsidy. Mr foodstamp again no problem for the 14.99 rib steak.
I cant afford to go to the country as my rent is too high in the city already. Mr section 8 has no problem.
Do u see why the regular working guy is a happy camper today. Kain yirbu!

Regardless how hard we all work your being happy when another yid gets arested is a big problem,

Mabey you are in the wrong Religion, your being jewish is not a good idea,

Please Consider a change in your religion

48

 Jul 02, 2015 at 07:06 AM YGeller Says:

Dear #47, you're right maybe happy is the wrong word but it's the same feeling you would get when someone cuts u off in traffic to make the changing light and right there ofen plotz a cop lights him up.

49

 Jul 02, 2015 at 08:31 AM proudhareidy Says:

Reply to #18  
LionofZion Says:

Shoitah, you are reading Vosisneis, so yes, the article points out that two KJ residents were arrested. The Times Herald Record di not write headline, VIN did, because its readers are interested in reading about members of the Jewish community.
You are very quick to yell anti-Semitism, but the anti-Semites are the ones with beards and Peyos who do follow Torah and the law. They make us all look bad, and Hashem look bad too.

Sir, not sure who the Shoitah is here, but the "headline" for the record news story was "Welfare fraud sweep nabs 30 Orange County residents, 2 corporations in Kiryas Joel". SO ITS THE RECORD NOT VIN
So while there are about 10 ppl from Middletown they felt it important to point out 2 KJ residence in the headline!!! Can anyone explain this?

50

 Jul 02, 2015 at 09:06 AM Just Wondering.... Says:

Is it just me or are Chasidem always involved in these frauds? You never find a Modern Orthodox or Frei Jew involved in welfare fraud.

51

 Jul 02, 2015 at 09:42 AM lavrenty Says:

Reply to #50  
Just Wondering.... Says:

Is it just me or are Chasidem always involved in these frauds? You never find a Modern Orthodox or Frei Jew involved in welfare fraud.

bec. modern Orthodox go to college and GET JOBS.

52

 Jul 02, 2015 at 09:43 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #43  
Anonymous Says:

Its not about hate it's about the good guy being vindicated some of u are right not everyone is perfect, maybe i don't declare the profit from a book i sold on ebay, or the state sales taxes i should have paid from an online vendor that didn't charge me tax but living off the government money is not the heart beat of bringing bread on my table at all.
I have to be up at the 6 am shachris to make ends meet. Mr. Welfare doesnt.
I need to work at least 40 hours a week for crap health insurance through my job. Mr medicaid doesn't
I can't afford meat for shabbos as the price is high given the SNAP subsidy. Mr foodstamp again no problem for the 14.99 rib steak.
I cant afford to go to the country as my rent is too high in the city already. Mr section 8 has no problem.
Do u see why the regular working guy is a happy camper today. Kain yirbu!

hit nail on the head, and all these Jewish orgs and politicians only care about the Sections 8 ers and food stampers.

53

 Jul 02, 2015 at 03:55 PM hard working woman in kensington Says:

Reply to #38  
DOVE1 Says:

Hard working woman don't browse VIN in middle of the day ,GIME A BREAK

Hey Dove1--ever hear of a lunch break? Stupid!

54

 Jul 02, 2015 at 05:15 PM DOVE1 Says:

Reply to #51  
lavrenty Says:

bec. modern Orthodox go to college and GET JOBS.

like Shelly Silver,and Roptfogel and so on and on and on and ON

55

 Jul 02, 2015 at 06:35 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #43  
Anonymous Says:

Its not about hate it's about the good guy being vindicated some of u are right not everyone is perfect, maybe i don't declare the profit from a book i sold on ebay, or the state sales taxes i should have paid from an online vendor that didn't charge me tax but living off the government money is not the heart beat of bringing bread on my table at all.
I have to be up at the 6 am shachris to make ends meet. Mr. Welfare doesnt.
I need to work at least 40 hours a week for crap health insurance through my job. Mr medicaid doesn't
I can't afford meat for shabbos as the price is high given the SNAP subsidy. Mr foodstamp again no problem for the 14.99 rib steak.
I cant afford to go to the country as my rent is too high in the city already. Mr section 8 has no problem.
Do u see why the regular working guy is a happy camper today. Kain yirbu!

Hey #43 not all medicaid, food stamps and section 8 receivers are abusers of the system. there are people who work 9-8 jobs and receive minimum wage. There bosses don't pay their health insurance and how could you pay your outrageous city rent with this money. Be happy that you get health insurance and not everybody buys meat for shabbos, and kudos to you for not going to the country. I feel your pain.

56

 Jul 02, 2015 at 06:38 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #41  
Anonymous Says:

I think thats a very racist statement. You can't balme a whole community because of a few rotten eggs. But I will lay blame on those that collect programs legally. the tendency for the hiemisha to have large familes and go on programs is wide spread. While its totally legal, one may question the rightouisness of it. I don't think its anti semtic for citizens to say we can't afford to support those who choose that lifestyle. Thus we oppose annexation. There is even room within yiddishkit to debate if one should have a large family knwoingly that he will be a burden to society. And surely from a secular view, one should not have kids if he can't pay for them.

Nice try..... why would you rather pay for drug addicts, criminals, homeless. Yiddishe kinder are righteous. There culture is pure. How dare you stop the am yisroel from growing. Isn't this what hashem blessed us with?

57

 Jul 02, 2015 at 11:59 PM YGeller Says:

#55 i do consider myself lucky for getting health insurance but i would consider myself even luckier if I was able to hide my income like my brothers in kj and have a great free managed care medicaid plan like health first or if i didn't get a civil marriage my wife would be using her single mom section 8 payments to subsidize the house i bought in my name. Etc etc ...

58

 Jul 05, 2015 at 11:47 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
Ina Says:

How did they pinpoint and discover the fraud?

why does that matter to you? that's their job, that's what they do.

59

 Jul 05, 2015 at 11:49 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
wednesday Says:

New York - Two Kiryas Joel residents were named among thirty defendants who allegedly obtained over $300,000 in public assistance and have been charged with welfare fraud by Orange County officials.

there were 30 ppl in orange county... why are they picking on the 2 KJ Residents???? yes I'd call this anti semitism!!!

1. no one said there were ONLY two KJ residents arrested.
2. Frum Jews make up much less than 2% of the population, so this is the OPPOSITE of anti-semitism.
3. how dare you call arresting Jews who commit serious crimes like this anti-semitism? They are CRIMINALS, whetner one or a thousand.

60

 Jul 05, 2015 at 11:51 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
eli845 Says:

#1 #2 and #3 I understand why you are upset I pay for that too. But you sound like all 30 are from Kj its 2 out of 30. So lets see 2 out of 30 so #1 that is the annexation problem? It's 28 not part of Kj that got arrested. So yes they should know better 100% I agree. But to say you are happy that a Jew is going to jail? Hemm think about it again and ask your competent rabbi if its OK to be happy about that.....

yes, it is perfectly fine for a Jew to go to jail if he did something criminal.

In fact, you OBLIGATED by halacha to turn him in yourself if you know about it, and massering, even if ut existed today, which it doesn't, does not apply.

61

Sign-in to post a comment

Scroll Up
Advertisements:

Sell your scrap gold and broken jewelry and earn hard cash sell gold today!