New York – 30 Caught In Orange County Welfare Sting: Officials Vow To Continue Pursuing Fraudsters

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    New York – Two Kiryas Joel residents were named among thirty defendants who allegedly obtained over $300,000 in public assistance and have been charged with welfare fraud by Orange County officials.

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    An announcement made at a press conference this morning held by Orange County District Attorney David Hoovler, who was joined by County Executive Steve Neuhaus and Sheriff Carl DuBois, detailed $324,793.85 of fraudulently obtained benefits by those 30 defendants through the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, Temporary Assistance Benefits and bogus Medicaid payments.  Today’s announcement marks Hoovler’s third fraud enforcement sweep in Orange County since taking office in 2014, and to date 97 individuals have been charged with welfare fraud to the tune of $1,073,676.33.

    One Kiryas Joel resident was charged with Welfare Fraud in the 2nd Degree for having illegally received $61,442.27 in Medicaid benefits to which he was not entitled, with his solely owned  corporation facing the same charges for underreporting the individual’s income.

    A second village resident was charged with Welfare Fraud in the 3rd Degree for having fraudulently received $21,133.91 in unentitled Medicaid benefits. His Subchapter S corporation is also facing the same charges for helping the defendant underreport his income by structuring draws from the business to make him appear Medicaid eligible and for creating false documents understating his income.

    If convicted, the two men could potentially face maximum prison sentences of 5 to 15 years and 2 1/3 to 7  years, respectively.

    Several different county agencies were involved in the sweep, including the Department of Social Services Special Investigation Unit, which reviewed files of possible fraud suspects and interviewed those individuals before forwarding the cases to the district attorney’s office.  A large number of those arrested were interviewed by both the district attorney’s and sheriff’s offices before any arrests were made.

    At this morning’s press conference, Neuhaus reiterated the county’s tough stance on those who would abuse the welfare system.

    “Since taking office in January of 2014, District Attorney David Hoovler and I have had a zero-tolerance policy on people abusing the Social Services system,” said Neuhaus at a press conference this morning.  “We have used all of our resources to enforce the laws and bring people abusing them to justice.”

    “My office remains a committed partner to the District Attorney’s office and continues to assist in these investigations that take money away from those in true need of public assistance,” added Sheriff DuBois.


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    lavrenty
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    lavrenty
    8 years ago

    THIS is why the people in Monroe dont want to be annexed by KJ, NOT anti-Semitism.

    docko
    docko
    8 years ago

    I’m Glad, these all 30 people should be prosecuted to the letter of the law. Its blatant geneiva, not to mention stealing from the middle class in this country the only class to support all these leida geiers and their million dollar lifestyles.

    8 years ago

    Kol hakovod to the Orange County DA’s office and others who investigated this fraud by the KJ mafia and brought charges against those Satmar who cheat the rest of us out of our hard earned dollars that the government takes from us to pay welfare. They should suspend ALL the KJ welfare takers until they can confirm those who are legally entitled to receive funding. Those charged with fraud should be sent to jail for as long as possible.

    8 years ago

    How did they pinpoint and discover the fraud?

    jack25
    jack25
    8 years ago

    Wake up people get the message stop it now if your not eligible for welfare don’t take thell go after YOU the good days are over!! These people were probably not aware, my neighbors does it so i can as well!

    wednesday
    wednesday
    8 years ago

    New York – Two Kiryas Joel residents were named among thirty defendants who allegedly obtained over $300,000 in public assistance and have been charged with welfare fraud by Orange County officials.

    there were 30 ppl in orange county… why are they picking on the 2 KJ Residents???? yes I’d call this anti semitism!!!

    eli845
    eli845
    8 years ago

    #1 #2 and #3 I understand why you are upset I pay for that too. But you sound like all 30 are from Kj its 2 out of 30. So lets see 2 out of 30 so #1 that is the annexation problem? It’s 28 not part of Kj that got arrested. So yes they should know better 100% I agree. But to say you are happy that a Jew is going to jail? Hemm think about it again and ask your competent rabbi if its OK to be happy about that…..

    alterknaker
    alterknaker
    8 years ago

    To all KJ haters who point hatred towards them, i want to telll you 1 thing, not for a minute, not even for a half a minute am i fooling myself that you mamzeirim pay your taxes and duties to last penny, you guys are doing it in a different way, your days will also come, by the way im not chasiddish, nor sm i satmar,

    savtainsandiego
    savtainsandiego
    8 years ago

    If they are guilty the should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This is a Chillul Hashem. When I was a welfare worker it was my pleasure to be able to help those who needed it but a few clients told me they “know how to milk the system” which made me question people’s honesty. The entire welfare system needs to be scrapped, restructured, and new rules put into effect. There should be a time limit and money cap for each recipient. Welfare should be a temporary fix – not a lifestyle. Those who abuse the system need to be dealt with swiftly and prevented from receiving future benefits. This is a big shonda!!!

    sissel613
    sissel613
    8 years ago

    All these people should go to jail and pay the consequences. They are all outright thieves–they stole from ME!! Yes–ME! I have been a hard working member of the workforce as have each member of my family, both immediate and extended. We have all been taught properly. Any government benefit that you are not entitled to is pure theft. All the benefits need to be left for those who truly need it like those who work and just can’t make it or someone who is handicapped to the extent that he/she cannot work. The fact that two frum people are part of the indictment is a disgrace–a chilul Hashem and quite frankly I am so sick and tired of hearing about frum people in the notorious news. What will they answer the Ribono Shel Olam after 120?

    LuckyStrike
    LuckyStrike
    8 years ago

    A Question For Satmar Chevra, Particularly Aharonies. This isn’t the 1st time this has happened. Does the Rebbe ever speak out against these types of things? If not why?

    8 years ago

    Looks to me like comments 1,2,3,4 is the same person a self hatting jew that
    Usaley gets very excited when jews get arrested

    In fact he got so excited one comment wasent enough for him he had to do it 4 times

    8 years ago

    Shame on those are happy to see Jews go to jail. IF they are guilty, then what they did is wrong. But the comments here differ little from comments we would expect from Jew-Haters.

    cbdds
    cbdds
    8 years ago

    Yes, I do get the fact that those guilty should be punished. I work for every penny and a pang of jealousy goes through me when I see people in line buying what I consider luxury items as SNAP’s expense.
    Having stated the above, I see that 28/30 were not in Kiryas Joel. So who emphasized the two? Was it a Government official fomenting racism or was it the press?

    wsbrgh
    wsbrgh
    8 years ago

    It’s hard to find anyone who gets any type of help from any gov’t agency who doesn’t get some type of accusations- rightly or wrongly.

    lavrenty
    Active Member
    lavrenty
    8 years ago

    the solution to all these problems is VERY simple, scrap food stamps, WIC, SECTION 8, Medicaid and other Marxist programs and no more fraud. DOWN WITH AMERICAn welfare system.

    lazerx
    lazerx
    8 years ago

    when a frum Jew is caught stealing, it is a chillul haShem. It is among the worst sins and t’shuva is very difficult to achieve.

    8 years ago

    The IRS and FBI have been investigating Ramapo people longer than they have been investigating in KJ. I can’t wait to read their findings! A lot of neighbors I know are afraid to go to sleep at night for fear of the FBI knocking at their doors.

    UseYourHead
    UseYourHead
    8 years ago

    People who cheat and steal in this manner prolong golus and delay the geulah. Woe unto those who behave in such a manner.

    zgold
    zgold
    8 years ago

    Everybody is quick to come to conclusions when it comes to yidden. How about being dan l’kaf zechus. What they did was wrong, but how do you know in what situation they are. Living in America is very difficult in todays day. Are you all willing to support them? Tuition is expensive, health insurance is expensive, living expenses are outrageous. Kudos to all of you that can push through, but some can’t . so think before you judge.

    villyamsburger
    villyamsburger
    8 years ago

    I would not believe in my worst nightmare that one Yid would show such hate on another Yid.
    We don’t even know if the government is right maybe they are wrong. Not all arrests led to a guilty verdict.
    Even if it does end with a guilty verdict hashem yerachem, haven’t we seen how many cases were later turned over?!

    Please be Dan Lkaf Zchus

    ayoyo
    ayoyo
    8 years ago

    Only in the good old u.s .of a. are the poor and unfortunate belittled and held in contempt ,while the big thieves the ones with millions and billions keep on collecting lots of money from washington.The lobbyists are constantly busy seeing that their clients reap big sums from washington

    YGeller
    YGeller
    8 years ago

    Its not about hate it’s about the good guy being vindicated some of u are right not everyone is perfect, maybe i don’t declare the profit from a book i sold on ebay, or the state sales taxes i should have paid from an online vendor that didn’t charge me tax but living off the government money is not the heart beat of bringing bread on my table at all.
    I have to be up at the 6 am shachris to make ends meet. Mr. Welfare doesnt.
    I need to work at least 40 hours a week for crap health insurance through my job. Mr medicaid doesn’t
    I can’t afford meat for shabbos as the price is high given the SNAP subsidy. Mr foodstamp again no problem for the 14.99 rib steak.
    I cant afford to go to the country as my rent is too high in the city already. Mr section 8 has no problem.
    Do u see why the regular working guy is a happy camper today. Kain yirbu!

    YGeller
    YGeller
    8 years ago

    Dear #47 , you’re right maybe happy is the wrong word but it’s the same feeling you would get when someone cuts u off in traffic to make the changing light and right there ofen plotz a cop lights him up.

    puppydogs
    puppydogs
    8 years ago

    Is it just me or are Chasidem always involved in these frauds? You never find a Modern Orthodox or Frei Jew involved in welfare fraud.

    YGeller
    YGeller
    8 years ago

    #55 i do consider myself lucky for getting health insurance but i would consider myself even luckier if I was able to hide my income like my brothers in kj and have a great free managed care medicaid plan like health first or if i didn’t get a civil marriage my wife would be using her single mom section 8 payments to subsidize the house i bought in my name. Etc etc …