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North Carolina - New Poll Shows 66% Of Trump Supporters Believe Obama Is A Muslim Born Outside The U.S.

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North Carolina - A new poll reveals that 66% of those who support GOP front-runner Donald Trump believe that President Barack Obama is a Muslim and that he was not born in the U.S.

PUBLICPOLICYPOLLING.com (http://bit.ly/1fUZE9w) reports that the poll, conducted by the Raleigh, North Carolina-based organization Public Policy Polling (PPP), shows that Trump continues to enjoy a large lead over the rest of the field, pulling in 29% of the vote as compared to his closest competitor, Dr. Ben Carson with 15%.

Behind Carson are Jeb Bush at 9%, Carly Fiorina 8%, Marco Rubio 7%, and 6% each for Ted Cruz and John Kasich.

According to the poll, Trump’s popularity is drawing from a GOP electorate that is becoming increasingly in lock-step with his beliefs, as 51% favor elimination of birthright citizenship and 54% view Obama as a Muslim.


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 Sep 02, 2015 at 11:55 AM anonymous Says:

Does this mean Obama will lead illegal immigrants out of the US and back to Kenya if Trump becomes President?

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 11:59 AM Chaim Says:

Well, if anyone had any doubt that Trump's voters are vacuous, ignorant dolts, this should prove it beyond any ambiguity. I realize that a number of people who leave comments on VIN also claim Obama is a Muslim (no doubt they're the same VIN readers who leave comments praising Trump to the heavens) but any serious person, whatever his political views , knows Obama is not a Muslim. His father was an atheist of Muslim background and did not raise Obama, who from the time he was a teenager identified as a Christian and, as we know, eventually found his way to the vile Rev. Wright, a "liberation theology" Christian minister. (The claim that Obama is a Muslim because Islam supposedly recognizes someone as a Muslim if he had a Muslim father is ridiculous -- Obama's father rejected Islamic belief and besides, Islam is not an ethnicity or a nationality that can somehow be passed down from father to son.)
Antone who's read up on Trump's followers or viewed interviews with Trump's fans can see for themselves just how lame-brained most of them are.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 12:02 PM Just Wondering... Says:

Well Obama hasn't proved otherwise....All his records are sealed

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 12:49 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Just Wondering... Says:

Well Obama hasn't proved otherwise....All his records are sealed

So why does he taken his rings off during the month Ramadan?

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 12:38 PM yochy Says:

Trump supporter here. Obama if not a muslim is certainly a muslim leaning individual. And until he produces his birth certificate I have every reason to believe he could have been born outside the USA. Call me stupid if you'd like.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 01:15 PM Anonymous Says:

"Well, if anyone had any doubt that Trump's voters are vacuous, ignorant dolts, this should prove it beyond any ambiguity."

Indeed! But, ברוך השם, the majority of Americans (as seen by the last two Presidential elections) are not as ignorant as the Republican party, of whom their own Bobby Jindal once famously stated, "We have to stop being the stupid party!" How's that working out for you Bobby?

And, this irreparable ignorance of the GOP is why they will lose upcoming Presidential elections until they are consigned to the dumpsters of history. To their own discredit, the GOP sold out to the extremist, evangelical, anti science, racist, unenlightened, and insensible non fact requiring hordes who make up the lowest caliber of sub-humanoid reprobates.

Of course, the real tragedy of this is that our very own היימישער עולם, as witnessed by the plethora of those on VIN who accuse President Obama of being a socialist, a Muslim, a Saul David Alinsky, a Nazi, a dictator, and a thousand other ridiculous charges, are all too eager to join this mob mentality of the doomed GOP.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 01:50 PM golani Says:

Reply to #6  
Anonymous Says:

"Well, if anyone had any doubt that Trump's voters are vacuous, ignorant dolts, this should prove it beyond any ambiguity."

Indeed! But, ברוך השם, the majority of Americans (as seen by the last two Presidential elections) are not as ignorant as the Republican party, of whom their own Bobby Jindal once famously stated, "We have to stop being the stupid party!" How's that working out for you Bobby?

And, this irreparable ignorance of the GOP is why they will lose upcoming Presidential elections until they are consigned to the dumpsters of history. To their own discredit, the GOP sold out to the extremist, evangelical, anti science, racist, unenlightened, and insensible non fact requiring hordes who make up the lowest caliber of sub-humanoid reprobates.

Of course, the real tragedy of this is that our very own היימישער עולם, as witnessed by the plethora of those on VIN who accuse President Obama of being a socialist, a Muslim, a Saul David Alinsky, a Nazi, a dictator, and a thousand other ridiculous charges, are all too eager to join this mob mentality of the doomed GOP.

Your right he is a great man how could we be so blinded. Fool what you are!

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 01:50 PM Anonymous Says:

In an April 6, 2011 interview with Donald Trump by Meredith Vieira,Trump was asked if he was privy to the information he claimed to have of Obama being born outside the USA. She posed, "You’ve been privy to all of this to know this?" Trump replied, "Well, I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re talking." Vieira went on, "You have people now out there searching– I mean, in Hawaii?" Trump responded, "Absolutely. And they cannot believe what they’re finding. And I’m serious—"

Well Donald, here it is September of 2015, and we're still all waiting to find out what your so called investigators found out, which is absolutely minus the square root of elephant defecation. Take note that when Trump is asked about his doubts of President Obama being American born during this time of his candidacy, he declines to answer. Only the most ignorant and hateful (the two go together) would align themselves with anyone the caliber of such a chronic liar as Donald Trump.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 02:01 PM PMOinFL Says:

This article is like candy for me. While I'm very surprised at the high number of stupid people in this study, I am not surprised that they are Trump supporters.

Wasn't it Trump who rented out an airplane hangar to host the press conference to end all press conferences for the sole purpose of presenting his evidence that Obama was born in Kenya? Then, he told is that the evidence wasn't ready but that his guys had found irrefutable and incredible evidence.... he still hasn't show it to anyone.

As for those looking for Obama's birth certificate, you are nearly twice as stupid. Obama, like myself, no longer has his original, so the state gives you a new one based on the original record. The Republican Governor of the state of HI certified that the one we all saw was a true and accurate record.

The burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused.

Besides, all that crazy, conspiracy talk did was push people to Obama in droves.

At this point, after ALL the fact checkers and enemies of fact checkign have found no evidence whatsoever, you really believe that Obama was born in Kenya... you are a 100% Pure, Grade-A, mindless imbecile.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 02:54 PM Elliot Says:

Reply to #5  
yochy Says:

Trump supporter here. Obama if not a muslim is certainly a muslim leaning individual. And until he produces his birth certificate I have every reason to believe he could have been born outside the USA. Call me stupid if you'd like.

He HAS released his birth certificate. Even your hero Trump has stopped making that idiotic accusation. (You remember, I'm sure, how a couple of years ago Trump claimed he had investigators working on the case and they were digging up incredible info on Obama. Then Obama released his long form birth certificate and suddenly Trump went silent. Trump is so full of it, and the fact that you support an empty suit RINO like this does not speak well of you.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 03:11 PM LashOut Says:

Reply to #5  
yochy Says:

Trump supporter here. Obama if not a muslim is certainly a muslim leaning individual. And until he produces his birth certificate I have every reason to believe he could have been born outside the USA. Call me stupid if you'd like.

And if he was born outside the USA, then what? Do the last 7 years magically go *poof*? It reminds me of those people in Union Square all the time when I was in NYC, protesting to "Drive Out the Bush Regime", when the 2008 election was months away. He's going to leave soon anyway. It doesn't matter anymore.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 03:43 PM Ina Says:

Reply to #10  
Elliot Says:

He HAS released his birth certificate. Even your hero Trump has stopped making that idiotic accusation. (You remember, I'm sure, how a couple of years ago Trump claimed he had investigators working on the case and they were digging up incredible info on Obama. Then Obama released his long form birth certificate and suddenly Trump went silent. Trump is so full of it, and the fact that you support an empty suit RINO like this does not speak well of you.

NO HE HAS NOT RELEASED HIS LONG FROM BIRTH CERTIFICATE! The short form is of no use. In fact, if you read Jerome Corsi's, "Where's the Birth Certificate" you will realize that the author conducted a very good investigation and found out that everything connected to Obama is sealed. This includes his mother's passport. There are also many more questions raised in the book. Now, I don't believe he was born in Kenya. I think it is far simpler than that. He was likely born where ever women went in 1961 to have a baby out of wedlock!

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 04:11 PM ayinglefunadorf Says:

1/2 million Muslims live in Brooklyn next to 1 million Yidden without any problem. I wish the Christians who lived in Germany, Poland, Slovakia etc next to the 6 million Yiden in Europe would have been Muslims too.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 04:13 PM Anonymous Says:

OK Obama is a Muslim, his wife is a Muslim too. Trumps wife is a SLOVAK. I would rather have a Muslim than a SLOVAK (Or German or Polish) in the White House.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 04:40 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
anonymous Says:

Does this mean Obama will lead illegal immigrants out of the US and back to Kenya if Trump becomes President?

Obama has openly admitted his father was muslim, as well as his love for and frequenting of the maDrassa....so what's the question? Of course he's Muslim! Muslims take their religion from the father, so since his father was, his considered one aS well! Let's see anyone disputes this.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 04:42 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Chaim Says:

Well, if anyone had any doubt that Trump's voters are vacuous, ignorant dolts, this should prove it beyond any ambiguity. I realize that a number of people who leave comments on VIN also claim Obama is a Muslim (no doubt they're the same VIN readers who leave comments praising Trump to the heavens) but any serious person, whatever his political views , knows Obama is not a Muslim. His father was an atheist of Muslim background and did not raise Obama, who from the time he was a teenager identified as a Christian and, as we know, eventually found his way to the vile Rev. Wright, a "liberation theology" Christian minister. (The claim that Obama is a Muslim because Islam supposedly recognizes someone as a Muslim if he had a Muslim father is ridiculous -- Obama's father rejected Islamic belief and besides, Islam is not an ethnicity or a nationality that can somehow be passed down from father to son.)
Antone who's read up on Trump's followers or viewed interviews with Trump's fans can see for themselves just how lame-brained most of them are.

It's sad and very telling thAt your only ammunition is to insult, denigrate, name-call, just like every other liberal fool does, because you can not debaTe the facts intellectually or honestly. You're oaThetic and I doubt your name is really Chaim. If it is, you should be ashamed of yourself becaUse no from Jew can possibly hold the vile views you do,

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 04:44 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
yochy Says:

Trump supporter here. Obama if not a muslim is certainly a muslim leaning individual. And until he produces his birth certificate I have every reason to believe he could have been born outside the USA. Call me stupid if you'd like.

Agree totally with you! Obama's faTher wAS MUSLIM, SO IS HE! These liberals can deny all they want, and keep being brown-nosed Obama supporters, just to prove to everyone and themselves how "unracist" and progressive they Are, but they're all full of hot air. Their dishonesty is obvious with every conversation, they have nothing intelligent to say, just distortions.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 04:47 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Anonymous Says:

In an April 6, 2011 interview with Donald Trump by Meredith Vieira,Trump was asked if he was privy to the information he claimed to have of Obama being born outside the USA. She posed, "You’ve been privy to all of this to know this?" Trump replied, "Well, I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re talking." Vieira went on, "You have people now out there searching– I mean, in Hawaii?" Trump responded, "Absolutely. And they cannot believe what they’re finding. And I’m serious—"

Well Donald, here it is September of 2015, and we're still all waiting to find out what your so called investigators found out, which is absolutely minus the square root of elephant defecation. Take note that when Trump is asked about his doubts of President Obama being American born during this time of his candidacy, he declines to answer. Only the most ignorant and hateful (the two go together) would align themselves with anyone the caliber of such a chronic liar as Donald Trump.

And only the very stupidest and most ignorant, could still be a brown nose obaMa sportier, after all the devastation he's wreaked on the U.S.!

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 04:49 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Anonymous Says:

In an April 6, 2011 interview with Donald Trump by Meredith Vieira,Trump was asked if he was privy to the information he claimed to have of Obama being born outside the USA. She posed, "You’ve been privy to all of this to know this?" Trump replied, "Well, I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re talking." Vieira went on, "You have people now out there searching– I mean, in Hawaii?" Trump responded, "Absolutely. And they cannot believe what they’re finding. And I’m serious—"

Well Donald, here it is September of 2015, and we're still all waiting to find out what your so called investigators found out, which is absolutely minus the square root of elephant defecation. Take note that when Trump is asked about his doubts of President Obama being American born during this time of his candidacy, he declines to answer. Only the most ignorant and hateful (the two go together) would align themselves with anyone the caliber of such a chronic liar as Donald Trump.

Yeah, and your democratic liberal heroes, obama y's and hilary are honest, right????

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 04:51 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Elliot Says:

He HAS released his birth certificate. Even your hero Trump has stopped making that idiotic accusation. (You remember, I'm sure, how a couple of years ago Trump claimed he had investigators working on the case and they were digging up incredible info on Obama. Then Obama released his long form birth certificate and suddenly Trump went silent. Trump is so full of it, and the fact that you support an empty suit RINO like this does not speak well of you.

And all you liberal brainiacs don't imagine it's possible that the most powerful Individual on earth and his handlers could produce a fake certificate to quiet the storm around his legitimacy as president, huh?

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 06:10 PM Chaim Says:

I have to laugh at the desperate Trump zombies and their hysterical comments above. They avoid all the substantive arguments made by the earlier anti-Trump posters and just continue to peddle the lies of the birther conspiracists. One of them quoted Jerome Corsi, a man whom no one of even moderate intelligence takes seriously and who traffics in some of the sickest conspiracy theories you'll find on the Internet. If Obana still hasn't released an authentic birth certificate, why hasn't Trump revealed all the alleged dirt his "investigators" dug up? THe Republican governor of Hawaii said the certificate is authentic, and of course the conspiracy mongers still can't explain why Obama's birh announcements appeared in the local papers when he was born. And I was right when I said most of the Trump zombies are also "Obama is a Muslim" nutcases. Look, if his father was an atheist and had nothing to do with Islam, how does that make Obama a Muslim? To repeat, Islam is purely a religion. It's not an ehnicity or a nationality. So how does one "inherit" his Muslimhood if he has never been a believer and his father rejucted it as well? Suddenly you people are so machmir on Islamic belief?

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 06:22 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
Anonymous Says:

And only the very stupidest and most ignorant, could still be a brown nose obaMa sportier, after all the devastation he's wreaked on the U.S.!

"Devastation he's wreaked on the US." Devastation? Stocks, housing up. Unemployment, Interest Rate, Budget Deficit Down. Americans dying in wars is over. No 9/11 under Obama. Bin Laden killed. Jews are safe in the USA and Israel. No suicide bombings, airline hijackings etc as before. Well if this is devastation to you than you should vote for Trump. He will build a Trillion $ wall and make MAKE Mexico pay for it (Otherwise he will invade them like Bush did Iraq) right?

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 06:31 PM Eli Says:

Reply to #20  
Anonymous Says:

And all you liberal brainiacs don't imagine it's possible that the most powerful Individual on earth and his handlers could produce a fake certificate to quiet the storm around his legitimacy as president, huh?

So Obama and his gang also forced the Republican governor of Hawaii to falsely vouch for the certificate's authenticity? And somehow they came up with phony newspaper birth announcements from when Obama was born and there was no way for any of you truth sekers to dig up an old bound copy or microfilmed edition of the paper to show it never really appeared? Don't you realize how sick you people sound? And, no, I never voted for Obama and don't care for his policies. But you pathetic losers give normal conservatives a bad name.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 07:52 PM gimmeabreak Says:

And only 29% grant that President Obama was born in the United States. That's less than the 40% who think Canadian born Ted Cruz was born in the United States!

As the old adage says; "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can fool a lot more of them if they're idiots."

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 08:02 PM golani Says:

All you liberal losers are missing the big picture whether he is Muslim or not is irrelevant. What is relavant is he cares more about Islam then he does jews and Christians and has given the islamo-nazis in iran money to fund more terror around the world which will affect us all

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 09:27 PM Anonymous Says:

Can I use the word "evil" on this message board? I want to accuse Senator John McCain of being "evil" in the most real and fundamental way, and want to use this story about Obama as an example. This whole megilla started because Senator McCain wanted to be President, but he was born outside the USA, on a US military base in Panama, so he did two things: First, he got congress to change the law. But that wasn't enough for this rasha, so Senator McCain started this campaign to tar Obama with his own (McCain's) psul. Everything about Senator McCain is rotten to the core, there is no shortage of other incidents involving him, and it has been a great blessing to the world that he didn't become President.

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 Sep 02, 2015 at 09:49 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #26  
Anonymous Says:

Can I use the word "evil" on this message board? I want to accuse Senator John McCain of being "evil" in the most real and fundamental way, and want to use this story about Obama as an example. This whole megilla started because Senator McCain wanted to be President, but he was born outside the USA, on a US military base in Panama, so he did two things: First, he got congress to change the law. But that wasn't enough for this rasha, so Senator McCain started this campaign to tar Obama with his own (McCain's) psul. Everything about Senator McCain is rotten to the core, there is no shortage of other incidents involving him, and it has been a great blessing to the world that he didn't become President.

I want to express charata that I used bad and extreme language in making my comment (#27). My basic opinion hasn't changed, but I wrote it in excessive tone. My excuse/justification/apology/explanation is that I get upset that because of this political "dirty trick" so many millions of people have wasted so much time and emotional energy, and many people wasted money because of this parsha, and the person responsible hasn't come forward to put an end to it, even though he sees how it continues to fester and continue nezek for years afterwards.

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 01:33 AM Greener Says:

Reply to #5  
yochy Says:

Trump supporter here. Obama if not a muslim is certainly a muslim leaning individual. And until he produces his birth certificate I have every reason to believe he could have been born outside the USA. Call me stupid if you'd like.

I agree fully with your last sentence. And so with your permission: Yochy is stupid.

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 07:25 AM Ina Says:

All the above posters who insist Obama's birth certificate is authentic and the newspaper announcement further makes it so demonstrate they really haven't followed this issue. All the investigators who have, have demonstrated that his short form birth certificate has no value and that the newspaper announcement placed by his grandparents certainly doesn't confirm his place of birth only that he was born. The investigators have also come up with many more disturbing facts about this president, like the fact that his mother's passport is sealed and so are his college records which may very well show he attended as a foreign exchange student. But, what I find most disturbing is that he was not raised in this country and that he is quite simply unAmerican. That should be enough.

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 09:27 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #29  
Ina Says:

All the above posters who insist Obama's birth certificate is authentic and the newspaper announcement further makes it so demonstrate they really haven't followed this issue. All the investigators who have, have demonstrated that his short form birth certificate has no value and that the newspaper announcement placed by his grandparents certainly doesn't confirm his place of birth only that he was born. The investigators have also come up with many more disturbing facts about this president, like the fact that his mother's passport is sealed and so are his college records which may very well show he attended as a foreign exchange student. But, what I find most disturbing is that he was not raised in this country and that he is quite simply unAmerican. That should be enough.

So, why has Trump never made the statements you are making? And today, when asked about his past accusations of the President not being American born, why does Trump decline to respond? Tell me, does the term delusional have any special significance for you? Your entire unsubstantiated point is the result of your personal hatred of President Obama (I wonder why?), and has nothing to do with facts or the actual issue? Why has Trump not made the statements you are making? Because even he has learned that accusing Obama of not being American born is a stupid and unsupported argument, something that you are incapable of understanding because of your pathological hatred of the President.

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 10:08 AM LashOut Says:

Reply to #29  
Ina Says:

All the above posters who insist Obama's birth certificate is authentic and the newspaper announcement further makes it so demonstrate they really haven't followed this issue. All the investigators who have, have demonstrated that his short form birth certificate has no value and that the newspaper announcement placed by his grandparents certainly doesn't confirm his place of birth only that he was born. The investigators have also come up with many more disturbing facts about this president, like the fact that his mother's passport is sealed and so are his college records which may very well show he attended as a foreign exchange student. But, what I find most disturbing is that he was not raised in this country and that he is quite simply unAmerican. That should be enough.

Would any of that matter at this point? Do the last 7 years suddenly never happen if he's "revealed" as not being born here? What's done is done.

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 10:58 AM Ina Says:

Reply to #30  
Anonymous Says:

So, why has Trump never made the statements you are making? And today, when asked about his past accusations of the President not being American born, why does Trump decline to respond? Tell me, does the term delusional have any special significance for you? Your entire unsubstantiated point is the result of your personal hatred of President Obama (I wonder why?), and has nothing to do with facts or the actual issue? Why has Trump not made the statements you are making? Because even he has learned that accusing Obama of not being American born is a stupid and unsupported argument, something that you are incapable of understanding because of your pathological hatred of the President.

I have followed the arguments on both sides and have reached the conclusion, as many others have, that this man was not born in this country and is certainly un-American which should have been enough to disqualify him as president. Don't know how you came to the conclusion that I have a "personal hatred" and a "pathological hatred"..." Very strong language! However, I don't think anyone will dispute that Obama is a sonei Yisrael, so I am not quite sure why you feel the need to support him..... Care to explain?

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 02:03 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
Anonymous Says:

And only the very stupidest and most ignorant, could still be a brown nose obaMa sportier, after all the devastation he's wreaked on the U.S.!

You mean the record corporate profits, massive reduction in uninsured citizens, doubling of the stock market and withdrawal from the unnecessary wars? Oh, sorry, I forgot that facts are not of interest to someone such as yourself who has the intellectual prowess of a parrot, repeating everything heard from the tv/radio, but who lacks the initiative to get a cracker in return.

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 02:05 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #32  
Ina Says:

I have followed the arguments on both sides and have reached the conclusion, as many others have, that this man was not born in this country and is certainly un-American which should have been enough to disqualify him as president. Don't know how you came to the conclusion that I have a "personal hatred" and a "pathological hatred"..." Very strong language! However, I don't think anyone will dispute that Obama is a sonei Yisrael, so I am not quite sure why you feel the need to support him..... Care to explain?

You are a low intelligence individual, aren't you? I don't for one minute believe you've "followed the arguments on both sides." Look, to continue to claim that Obama was not born here, after the Republican governor of Florida vouched for both documents Obama released and after we've seen the birth announcements in the local papers when Obama was born, is both delusional and closed-minded. As for calling him a soneh Yisroel, I agree his policies are naive and harmful to American and Israeli interests, but that doesn't make someone a soneh Yisroel. If Obama's a soneh Yisroel, what was Hitler? Or Arafat? Or Haman? Or neo-Nazi skinheads who really hate Jews and preach their destruction? You cheapen the term by applying it to someone who, however much you and I might disagree with him policy-wise, has never expressed any hateful thoughts about Jews. Most of his friends, mentors and associates have been Jews. Or can you prove otherwise? And don't give me Jeremiah Wright. I've attended many shuls where people didn;t agree with the rabbi on many important issues, and who even thought he was crazy on certain things, but were friendly with him anyway.

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 02:16 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #32  
Ina Says:

I have followed the arguments on both sides and have reached the conclusion, as many others have, that this man was not born in this country and is certainly un-American which should have been enough to disqualify him as president. Don't know how you came to the conclusion that I have a "personal hatred" and a "pathological hatred"..." Very strong language! However, I don't think anyone will dispute that Obama is a sonei Yisrael, so I am not quite sure why you feel the need to support him..... Care to explain?

Well, Ina, I'm sure you have done the best you can with limited education on the subject. For example, we have these things called the Constitution and laws. The 14th Amendment of the Constitution provides that, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, ... are citizens of the United States." Chapter 3, Section 301 (a) of the Immigration and Naturalization Act provides that "In general, a person born outside of the United States may acquire citizenship at birth if [t]he person has at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen." Thus, looking at the true fact that Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a citizen under the Constitution. Looking at the narishkeit that he was not born in the U.S., he is the son of a U.S. citizen so is a citizen under the INA (as well as the Naturalization Clause of the Constitution). In other words, you do not understand the law and your opinion is of absolutely no import to the discussion.

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 02:21 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #32  
Ina Says:

I have followed the arguments on both sides and have reached the conclusion, as many others have, that this man was not born in this country and is certainly un-American which should have been enough to disqualify him as president. Don't know how you came to the conclusion that I have a "personal hatred" and a "pathological hatred"..." Very strong language! However, I don't think anyone will dispute that Obama is a sonei Yisrael, so I am not quite sure why you feel the need to support him..... Care to explain?

For all of you Republicans out there, allow me to introduce a few facts to the discussion. John McCain was NOT born in the U.S. but is a U.S. citizen because he was born to a U.S. citizen. Ted Cruz was NOT born in the U.S. but is a U.S. citizen because he was born to a U.S. citizen. Now, if you have read the Constitution, and the relevant portions of the Immigration and Naturalization Act and still believe that Obama is not a citizen based on your understanding of the term "natural-born citizen" then you must also conclude that McCain and Cruz are not qualified to run for President.

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 05:56 PM Ina Says:

Reply to #34  
Anonymous Says:

You are a low intelligence individual, aren't you? I don't for one minute believe you've "followed the arguments on both sides." Look, to continue to claim that Obama was not born here, after the Republican governor of Florida vouched for both documents Obama released and after we've seen the birth announcements in the local papers when Obama was born, is both delusional and closed-minded. As for calling him a soneh Yisroel, I agree his policies are naive and harmful to American and Israeli interests, but that doesn't make someone a soneh Yisroel. If Obama's a soneh Yisroel, what was Hitler? Or Arafat? Or Haman? Or neo-Nazi skinheads who really hate Jews and preach their destruction? You cheapen the term by applying it to someone who, however much you and I might disagree with him policy-wise, has never expressed any hateful thoughts about Jews. Most of his friends, mentors and associates have been Jews. Or can you prove otherwise? And don't give me Jeremiah Wright. I've attended many shuls where people didn;t agree with the rabbi on many important issues, and who even thought he was crazy on certain things, but were friendly with him anyway.

You are free to believe whatever you wish but don't deny me my right to do the same. You still didn't answer the question. Why are you so enamored with Barak HUSSEIN Obama?!

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 05:59 PM Ina Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Well, Ina, I'm sure you have done the best you can with limited education on the subject. For example, we have these things called the Constitution and laws. The 14th Amendment of the Constitution provides that, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, ... are citizens of the United States." Chapter 3, Section 301 (a) of the Immigration and Naturalization Act provides that "In general, a person born outside of the United States may acquire citizenship at birth if [t]he person has at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen." Thus, looking at the true fact that Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a citizen under the Constitution. Looking at the narishkeit that he was not born in the U.S., he is the son of a U.S. citizen so is a citizen under the INA (as well as the Naturalization Clause of the Constitution). In other words, you do not understand the law and your opinion is of absolutely no import to the discussion.

Sorry, but you do not understand the law. Read, "Where's the Birth Certificate" and you will find out why Obama may not be a citizen at all. And, please do get back to me once you have done so. I would love to hear your thoughts then.

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 Sep 03, 2015 at 06:01 PM Ina Says:

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Anonymous Says:

For all of you Republicans out there, allow me to introduce a few facts to the discussion. John McCain was NOT born in the U.S. but is a U.S. citizen because he was born to a U.S. citizen. Ted Cruz was NOT born in the U.S. but is a U.S. citizen because he was born to a U.S. citizen. Now, if you have read the Constitution, and the relevant portions of the Immigration and Naturalization Act and still believe that Obama is not a citizen based on your understanding of the term "natural-born citizen" then you must also conclude that McCain and Cruz are not qualified to run for President.

I don't know anything about Cruz. However, McCain was born on a US army base or something like that, and for that reason, is most certainly a citizen.

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 Sep 04, 2015 at 02:34 AM Anonymous Says:

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Ina Says:

I have followed the arguments on both sides and have reached the conclusion, as many others have, that this man was not born in this country and is certainly un-American which should have been enough to disqualify him as president. Don't know how you came to the conclusion that I have a "personal hatred" and a "pathological hatred"..." Very strong language! However, I don't think anyone will dispute that Obama is a sonei Yisrael, so I am not quite sure why you feel the need to support him..... Care to explain?

"I have followed the arguments on both sides and have reached the conclusion, as many others have, that this man was not born in this country....."

You reached a conclusion? Based on what? Your psychotic hatred of the man? Even that loud mouth Trump has given up the insanity that Obama is not American born. Obama is black, he's President, and you ought to get over it already!

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 Sep 04, 2015 at 12:27 PM Ina Says:

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Anonymous Says:

"I have followed the arguments on both sides and have reached the conclusion, as many others have, that this man was not born in this country....."

You reached a conclusion? Based on what? Your psychotic hatred of the man? Even that loud mouth Trump has given up the insanity that Obama is not American born. Obama is black, he's President, and you ought to get over it already!

Read the book with all its details, research and arguments. Get back to me when you are ready to debate the book. You still haven't told me why you have the need to back this president? What is it about him you so admire?

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