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Published on: October 29, 2015 09:14 AM
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Ramapo, NY - Controversy has arisen around a Democratic candidate for the Ramapo Town Board after he admitted that he lives in New Jersey and has a criminal history, including a 2004 federal conviction for mail fraud.

LOHUD.com (http://lohud.us/1O9ilWA) reports that 70 year-old Samuel Tress was initially vague when asked about his current residency, stating that he resides at a rented Monsey apartment, but later admitted to living in New Jersey.

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“I’m not denying that I live in New Jersey,” Tress admitted, while adding “I am most of the week in Monsey.”

Tress was also vague when asked about past run-ins with the law, stating that he didn’t “remember” whether or not he pleaded guilty in a mail fraud case brought against by the feds in 2004.

“I don’t remember if I actually pleaded guilty,” Tress offered.

But court records show that Tress did in fact plead guilty in December of 2004 to falsely assuming an identity to secure a mortgage on a Spring Valley home, resulting in a three-year sentence of supervised probation.


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 Oct 29, 2015 at 10:01 AM Anon1316 Says:

A little perspective is in order. He lived in Monsey for at least 30 years. Now I do not know the rules and regulations if you move out. But it's not like he lived in NJ his entire life. Plus he says he has a place in Monsey too that he rents.

2

 Oct 29, 2015 at 10:20 AM Pragmatist Says:

Ramapo has a policy that members of their zoning and planning boards must live in unincorporated Ramapo because that is the jurisdiction of these boards. Even if it's true that he actually livens in the Blueberry Hills apartment complex (I am not really convinced that it's true) it's in the village of Spring Valley and he had no business staying on the Ramapo Zoning Board of Appeals.

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 10:25 AM bubii Says:

Cant theese uber frummies do anything right?

4

 Oct 29, 2015 at 11:08 AM pinay Says:

Reply to #1  
Anon1316 Says:

A little perspective is in order. He lived in Monsey for at least 30 years. Now I do not know the rules and regulations if you move out. But it's not like he lived in NJ his entire life. Plus he says he has a place in Monsey too that he rents.

I don't know this person, or anything about him, but I have 2 questions.

a. why would someone run for a board position with a criminal mail fraud conviction.
b. why was he not concerned about the chillul hashem that would inevitably result.

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 11:11 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anon1316 Says:

A little perspective is in order. He lived in Monsey for at least 30 years. Now I do not know the rules and regulations if you move out. But it's not like he lived in NJ his entire life. Plus he says he has a place in Monsey too that he rents.

Anon1316,sometimes it is better to write NOTHING than to write something. .Because when you write something like you did then you also have to deal with the rest of the story. Tress was also vague when asked about past run-ins with the law, stating that he didn’t “remember” whether or not he pleaded guilty in a mail fraud case brought against by the feds in 2004.

“I don’t remember if I actually pleaded guilty,” Tress offered.

But court records show that Tress did in fact plead guilty in December of 2004 to falsely assuming an identity to secure a mortgage on a Spring Valley home, resulting in a three-year sentence of supervised probation

6

 Oct 29, 2015 at 11:18 AM hmmm Says:

Hillary Clinton all of a sudden bought a pad in Chappagua so she could run for NY Senate. That was OK, why is this residency a problem?

a bigger issue is his felony conviction. He is 70 & doesn't remember? That makes him a great candidate, right??

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 11:18 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anon1316 Says:

A little perspective is in order. He lived in Monsey for at least 30 years. Now I do not know the rules and regulations if you move out. But it's not like he lived in NJ his entire life. Plus he says he has a place in Monsey too that he rents.

If he were not orthodox, you would be up in arms. He admitted he lives in another state! He also is a felon who is not allowed to run for public office. We have enough felons in Ramapo and don't need one more to steal the gelt.

8

 Oct 29, 2015 at 11:27 AM Anonymous Says:

What is it about this particular town board that attracts such people?

9

 Oct 29, 2015 at 11:34 AM yonasonw Says:

Reply to #3  
bubii Says:

Cant theese uber frummies do anything right?

But as you see from some of the comments here, some of the "uber frummy" diehards don't think he did anything wrong.

For them it's a matter of Chareidem Uber Alles, where the end, the advancement of their interests, justifies their means, whatever they are. This sort of moral corruption happens in our community too often...it's disgusting.

If VIN had been around before the churban Beis Shenei, I bet a lot of the bloggers would have supported the societal norms we now decry, at least once a year on Tisha B'Av, and anyone who expressed disgust would have been denounced as an anti-Semitic pro-Roman Titus-loving liberal.

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 11:35 AM OyGevald Says:

Too bad. Such a fine persona!
A lifetime of Askunos just got regurgitated.
Terrible.

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 11:42 AM Yonasonw Says:

Reply to #6  
hmmm Says:

Hillary Clinton all of a sudden bought a pad in Chappagua so she could run for NY Senate. That was OK, why is this residency a problem?

a bigger issue is his felony conviction. He is 70 & doesn't remember? That makes him a great candidate, right??

Residency Laws 101...if you buy a home and live there full time, it is a valid change of domicile.

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM commonsense99 Says:

I just have one quiestion for CSL, of the 5 people who came forward and expressed an interest in running why did you pick this ex con?
PS Reform- Preserve Ramapo is running its own ex con, Jacques Michel in the 13 LD

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 12:13 PM yonasonw Says:

Reply to #10  
OyGevald Says:

Too bad. Such a fine persona!
A lifetime of Askunos just got regurgitated.
Terrible.

Al Capone was a baal chessid too, So what...that wipes the slate clean?

14

 Oct 29, 2015 at 12:41 PM Yitzmeni Says:

I am more concern that he was convicted in a mortgage fraud and pleded guilty to mail fraud than were he lives, he should have never run for that position and also avoiding a big chilul hashem, I really don't believe him when he said I don't remember pleading guilty and getting 3 year sentence of supervised probation.

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 01:05 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anon1316 Says:

A little perspective is in order. He lived in Monsey for at least 30 years. Now I do not know the rules and regulations if you move out. But it's not like he lived in NJ his entire life. Plus he says he has a place in Monsey too that he rents.

Are u going to also send his criminal past,a nod his sudden amnesia about it?!

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 01:06 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
pinay Says:

I don't know this person, or anything about him, but I have 2 questions.

a. why would someone run for a board position with a criminal mail fraud conviction.
b. why was he not concerned about the chillul hashem that would inevitably result.

Because if you learn Torah, you know that the yetzer haram not on,y convinces the person that the misdeed is not an aveira, but he also convinces the person that it's right!

17

 Oct 29, 2015 at 02:42 PM anonnymous Says:

what is his connection to moshe mark tress in real estate from lakewood is this his father?

18

 Oct 29, 2015 at 02:45 PM Anonymous Says:

what a chilull hashem i guess at this age you start looking for some kovod

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 02:47 PM Anonymous Says:

to #1 the fact that he lived in monsey for 30 years is is not the issue i think it counts where you live now

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 02:49 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anon1316 Says:

A little perspective is in order. He lived in Monsey for at least 30 years. Now I do not know the rules and regulations if you move out. But it's not like he lived in NJ his entire life. Plus he says he has a place in Monsey too that he rents.

it is not the issue how many years he lived in monsey it is where he lives now

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 02:51 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anon1316 Says:

A little perspective is in order. He lived in Monsey for at least 30 years. Now I do not know the rules and regulations if you move out. But it's not like he lived in NJ his entire life. Plus he says he has a place in Monsey too that he rents.

the biggest perspective in order is more the mail fraud not were he lives now

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 02:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Pragmatist Says:

Ramapo has a policy that members of their zoning and planning boards must live in unincorporated Ramapo because that is the jurisdiction of these boards. Even if it's true that he actually livens in the Blueberry Hills apartment complex (I am not really convinced that it's true) it's in the village of Spring Valley and he had no business staying on the Ramapo Zoning Board of Appeals.

didnt he know that?

23

 Oct 29, 2015 at 02:56 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
pinay Says:

I don't know this person, or anything about him, but I have 2 questions.

a. why would someone run for a board position with a criminal mail fraud conviction.
b. why was he not concerned about the chillul hashem that would inevitably result.

he sad he didnt remember, i hope this will answer you the 2 questions.

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 02:59 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

Anon1316,sometimes it is better to write NOTHING than to write something. .Because when you write something like you did then you also have to deal with the rest of the story. Tress was also vague when asked about past run-ins with the law, stating that he didn’t “remember” whether or not he pleaded guilty in a mail fraud case brought against by the feds in 2004.

“I don’t remember if I actually pleaded guilty,” Tress offered.

But court records show that Tress did in fact plead guilty in December of 2004 to falsely assuming an identity to secure a mortgage on a Spring Valley home, resulting in a three-year sentence of supervised probation

ho do you belive court records or mr tress that said he dosent remember.

25

 Oct 29, 2015 at 03:01 PM Anonymous Says:

i think so

26

 Oct 29, 2015 at 03:10 PM haroldk Says:

When the Police arrest a Baptist ,Catholic Hindu,does the Headlines begin with ""Baptist ,Catholic or Hindu admits to ....."" ???

27

 Oct 29, 2015 at 03:20 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
Yitzmeni Says:

I am more concern that he was convicted in a mortgage fraud and pleded guilty to mail fraud than were he lives, he should have never run for that position and also avoiding a big chilul hashem, I really don't believe him when he said I don't remember pleading guilty and getting 3 year sentence of supervised probation.

agree 100%

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 03:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #26  
haroldk Says:

When the Police arrest a Baptist ,Catholic Hindu,does the Headlines begin with ""Baptist ,Catholic or Hindu admits to ....."" ???

so you want to know way dos it say o the article ortodox?

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 03:49 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

ho do you belive court records or mr tress that said he dosent remember.

maybe be don lekaf zechut that he forgot

30

 Oct 29, 2015 at 03:50 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

ho do you belive court records or mr tress that said he dosent remember.

what is the law if you have 2 residence?

31

 Oct 29, 2015 at 03:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #16  
Anonymous Says:

Because if you learn Torah, you know that the yetzer haram not on,y convinces the person that the misdeed is not an aveira, but he also convinces the person that it's right!

midot, ben odom lachavero ,has nothing to do with torah,you can learn torah and be a big gaon and have 0 midot or 0 ...........

32

 Oct 29, 2015 at 03:54 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Anonymous Says:

What is it about this particular town board that attracts such people?

maybe it is a good shiduch

33

 Oct 29, 2015 at 03:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Pragmatist Says:

Ramapo has a policy that members of their zoning and planning boards must live in unincorporated Ramapo because that is the jurisdiction of these boards. Even if it's true that he actually livens in the Blueberry Hills apartment complex (I am not really convinced that it's true) it's in the village of Spring Valley and he had no business staying on the Ramapo Zoning Board of Appeals.

that sounds like a easy think to know

34

 Oct 29, 2015 at 04:37 PM yonasonw Says:

Reply to #26  
haroldk Says:

When the Police arrest a Baptist ,Catholic Hindu,does the Headlines begin with ""Baptist ,Catholic or Hindu admits to ....."" ???

It would if, as in Ramapo, the particular ethnic identification of public board members were such a hot political issue. I take it you have read about the Charedi takeover of the East Ramapo School Board.

35

 Oct 29, 2015 at 04:38 PM walkinsilence Says:

All the (irrational) rationalizations aside, this is not a Kiddush HaShem

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 Oct 29, 2015 at 03:31 PM Yitzmeni Says:

I am more concern that he was convicted in a mortgage fraud and pleded guilty to mail fraud than were he lives, he should have never run for that position and also avoiding a big chilul hashem, I really don't believe him when he said I don't remember pleading guilty and getting 3 year sentence of supervised probation.

37

 Oct 29, 2015 at 04:47 PM Chilul Hashem Hypocrisy 101 Says:

It's unbelievable how quickly all the tzadikim, without knowing a single fact about the circumstances of the case against Mr Tress, come running out shrieking chilul hashem. Not that it would change the minds of the haters regardless. You're all mechalel shem shomayim with your blatant loshon horoh and rechilus. The Tress name is regal and for good reason. Most of you commenting here families were probably, directly or indirectly, helped by Mike Tress. Sam Tress is a gem of a person and follows directly in the footsteps of his father's askonus and ahavas yisroel. Shame on all of you angry self hating nobody's looking to pounce on anything negatively written about a fellow jew. Take a selfie and analyze what's wrong with that picture.

38

 Oct 29, 2015 at 06:55 PM Esther Says:

Reply to #4  
pinay Says:

I don't know this person, or anything about him, but I have 2 questions.

a. why would someone run for a board position with a criminal mail fraud conviction.
b. why was he not concerned about the chillul hashem that would inevitably result.

The lack of concern about Chilul Hashem is a huge problem in our time. Is it because the ego's and sense of importance of so many have become so inflated?

39

 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:50 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #37  
Chilul Hashem Hypocrisy 101 Says:

It's unbelievable how quickly all the tzadikim, without knowing a single fact about the circumstances of the case against Mr Tress, come running out shrieking chilul hashem. Not that it would change the minds of the haters regardless. You're all mechalel shem shomayim with your blatant loshon horoh and rechilus. The Tress name is regal and for good reason. Most of you commenting here families were probably, directly or indirectly, helped by Mike Tress. Sam Tress is a gem of a person and follows directly in the footsteps of his father's askonus and ahavas yisroel. Shame on all of you angry self hating nobody's looking to pounce on anything negatively written about a fellow jew. Take a selfie and analyze what's wrong with that picture.

how exactly would you want all the tzadikim to react without knowing a single fact if you know the facts and dont say them

40

 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:55 AM avi Says:

Reply to #37  
Chilul Hashem Hypocrisy 101 Says:

It's unbelievable how quickly all the tzadikim, without knowing a single fact about the circumstances of the case against Mr Tress, come running out shrieking chilul hashem. Not that it would change the minds of the haters regardless. You're all mechalel shem shomayim with your blatant loshon horoh and rechilus. The Tress name is regal and for good reason. Most of you commenting here families were probably, directly or indirectly, helped by Mike Tress. Sam Tress is a gem of a person and follows directly in the footsteps of his father's askonus and ahavas yisroel. Shame on all of you angry self hating nobody's looking to pounce on anything negatively written about a fellow jew. Take a selfie and analyze what's wrong with that picture.

stop blaming evrebody with making a chilul hashem i dont know sam tress he may be a good person but in this case he made a chilul hashem

41

 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:58 AM aharon Says:

Reply to #37  
Chilul Hashem Hypocrisy 101 Says:

It's unbelievable how quickly all the tzadikim, without knowing a single fact about the circumstances of the case against Mr Tress, come running out shrieking chilul hashem. Not that it would change the minds of the haters regardless. You're all mechalel shem shomayim with your blatant loshon horoh and rechilus. The Tress name is regal and for good reason. Most of you commenting here families were probably, directly or indirectly, helped by Mike Tress. Sam Tress is a gem of a person and follows directly in the footsteps of his father's askonus and ahavas yisroel. Shame on all of you angry self hating nobody's looking to pounce on anything negatively written about a fellow jew. Take a selfie and analyze what's wrong with that picture.

are you suggesting that if someone helpd pepole than anyting he is doing is kosher

42

 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:59 AM chani Says:

Reply to #38  
Esther Says:

The lack of concern about Chilul Hashem is a huge problem in our time. Is it because the ego's and sense of importance of so many have become so inflated?

it is a big problem

43

 Oct 30, 2015 at 01:02 AM moshe Says:

Reply to #36  
Yitzmeni Says:

I am more concern that he was convicted in a mortgage fraud and pleded guilty to mail fraud than were he lives, he should have never run for that position and also avoiding a big chilul hashem, I really don't believe him when he said I don't remember pleading guilty and getting 3 year sentence of supervised probation.

he looks like a smart man dont know way he went in to this all think.

44

 Oct 30, 2015 at 01:04 AM moshe Says:

Reply to #31  
Anonymous Says:

midot, ben odom lachavero ,has nothing to do with torah,you can learn torah and be a big gaon and have 0 midot or 0 ...........

agree 100%

45

 Oct 30, 2015 at 01:05 AM itzik Says:

Reply to #2  
Pragmatist Says:

Ramapo has a policy that members of their zoning and planning boards must live in unincorporated Ramapo because that is the jurisdiction of these boards. Even if it's true that he actually livens in the Blueberry Hills apartment complex (I am not really convinced that it's true) it's in the village of Spring Valley and he had no business staying on the Ramapo Zoning Board of Appeals.

and he didnt know that?

46

 Oct 30, 2015 at 08:39 AM Yitzmeni Says:

Reply to #38  
Esther Says:

The lack of concern about Chilul Hashem is a huge problem in our time. Is it because the ego's and sense of importance of so many have become so inflated?

A person needs siata dishmaya not to make a chilul hashem but olso to do bederech hatevah

47

 Oct 30, 2015 at 10:21 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #38  
Esther Says:

The lack of concern about Chilul Hashem is a huge problem in our time. Is it because the ego's and sense of importance of so many have become so inflated?

we daven every day that a person should have the zechut to be mekadesh shem shomayim and not.........

48

 Oct 30, 2015 at 11:34 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #37  
Chilul Hashem Hypocrisy 101 Says:

It's unbelievable how quickly all the tzadikim, without knowing a single fact about the circumstances of the case against Mr Tress, come running out shrieking chilul hashem. Not that it would change the minds of the haters regardless. You're all mechalel shem shomayim with your blatant loshon horoh and rechilus. The Tress name is regal and for good reason. Most of you commenting here families were probably, directly or indirectly, helped by Mike Tress. Sam Tress is a gem of a person and follows directly in the footsteps of his father's askonus and ahavas yisroel. Shame on all of you angry self hating nobody's looking to pounce on anything negatively written about a fellow jew. Take a selfie and analyze what's wrong with that picture.

ok so i am not posting what i want to say , i am going to chek if any one in my family was helpd by mike tress

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 11:37 AM brocho Says:

Reply to #37  
Chilul Hashem Hypocrisy 101 Says:

It's unbelievable how quickly all the tzadikim, without knowing a single fact about the circumstances of the case against Mr Tress, come running out shrieking chilul hashem. Not that it would change the minds of the haters regardless. You're all mechalel shem shomayim with your blatant loshon horoh and rechilus. The Tress name is regal and for good reason. Most of you commenting here families were probably, directly or indirectly, helped by Mike Tress. Sam Tress is a gem of a person and follows directly in the footsteps of his father's askonus and ahavas yisroel. Shame on all of you angry self hating nobody's looking to pounce on anything negatively written about a fellow jew. Take a selfie and analyze what's wrong with that picture.

better to do less chesed dan to make a chilul hashem

50

 Oct 30, 2015 at 11:38 AM avi Says:

Reply to #45  
itzik Says:

and he didnt know that?

i guess not

51

 Oct 30, 2015 at 11:41 AM yochonon Says:

Reply to #37  
Chilul Hashem Hypocrisy 101 Says:

It's unbelievable how quickly all the tzadikim, without knowing a single fact about the circumstances of the case against Mr Tress, come running out shrieking chilul hashem. Not that it would change the minds of the haters regardless. You're all mechalel shem shomayim with your blatant loshon horoh and rechilus. The Tress name is regal and for good reason. Most of you commenting here families were probably, directly or indirectly, helped by Mike Tress. Sam Tress is a gem of a person and follows directly in the footsteps of his father's askonus and ahavas yisroel. Shame on all of you angry self hating nobody's looking to pounce on anything negatively written about a fellow jew. Take a selfie and analyze what's wrong with that picture.

are you saying that any family member of the regal family tress has a pass to make a chilul hashem in the zechut of mike tress

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 11:49 AM yaakov Says:

Reply to #43  
moshe Says:

he looks like a smart man dont know way he went in to this all think.

look in pikei avot wen it comes to kovod pepole think differently

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 11:52 AM avorohom Says:

Reply to #13  
yonasonw Says:

Al Capone was a baal chessid too, So what...that wipes the slate clean?

according to reply number 37 i think the answer is yes

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM shmuel Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

If he were not orthodox, you would be up in arms. He admitted he lives in another state! He also is a felon who is not allowed to run for public office. We have enough felons in Ramapo and don't need one more to steal the gelt.

how do you know that he would steal the gelt ?maybe he did it leshem shomayim

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM sam Says:

Reply to #43  
moshe Says:

he looks like a smart man dont know way he went in to this all think.

kovod kovod kovod

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM sam Says:

Reply to #43  
moshe Says:

he looks like a smart man dont know way he went in to this all think.

or gelt gelt gelt

57

 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM rivkah Says:

Reply to #55  
sam Says:

kovod kovod kovod

it is not a an issue of kovod shmuel tress sad that he was asked by several rabonim to run for the position

58

 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:05 PM rivkah Says:

Reply to #56  
sam Says:

or gelt gelt gelt

i tont think there is any gelt in that position

59

 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:05 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #54  
shmuel Says:

how do you know that he would steal the gelt ?maybe he did it leshem shomayim

maybe

60

 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:08 PM chani Says:

Reply to #37  
Chilul Hashem Hypocrisy 101 Says:

It's unbelievable how quickly all the tzadikim, without knowing a single fact about the circumstances of the case against Mr Tress, come running out shrieking chilul hashem. Not that it would change the minds of the haters regardless. You're all mechalel shem shomayim with your blatant loshon horoh and rechilus. The Tress name is regal and for good reason. Most of you commenting here families were probably, directly or indirectly, helped by Mike Tress. Sam Tress is a gem of a person and follows directly in the footsteps of his father's askonus and ahavas yisroel. Shame on all of you angry self hating nobody's looking to pounce on anything negatively written about a fellow jew. Take a selfie and analyze what's wrong with that picture.

i am sure that mike tress is not having any nachat from this hole chilul hashem

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:09 PM yanki Says:

Reply to #56  
sam Says:

or gelt gelt gelt

or leshem shomaim leshem shomaim leshem shomaim

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:22 PM dovid Says:

Reply to #37  
Chilul Hashem Hypocrisy 101 Says:

It's unbelievable how quickly all the tzadikim, without knowing a single fact about the circumstances of the case against Mr Tress, come running out shrieking chilul hashem. Not that it would change the minds of the haters regardless. You're all mechalel shem shomayim with your blatant loshon horoh and rechilus. The Tress name is regal and for good reason. Most of you commenting here families were probably, directly or indirectly, helped by Mike Tress. Sam Tress is a gem of a person and follows directly in the footsteps of his father's askonus and ahavas yisroel. Shame on all of you angry self hating nobody's looking to pounce on anything negatively written about a fellow jew. Take a selfie and analyze what's wrong with that picture.

were can i see the court records?

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:25 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #57  
rivkah Says:

it is not a an issue of kovod shmuel tress sad that he was asked by several rabonim to run for the position

i wonder if he was asked by rabonim to do other stuff he would listen so fast

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:31 PM brocho Says:

Reply to #57  
rivkah Says:

it is not a an issue of kovod shmuel tress sad that he was asked by several rabonim to run for the position

this hole story is funny

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 Oct 30, 2015 at 12:32 PM abe Says:

Reply to #57  
rivkah Says:

it is not a an issue of kovod shmuel tress sad that he was asked by several rabonim to run for the position

i think he is a son of mike tress

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