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Agriprocessors' move to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Tuesday comes a day before the meatpacker was to meet in court with its biggest lender, First Bank of St. Louis.
The bank is seeking to foreclose on the plant in Postville and appoint a third party to oversee Agriprocessors' assets.
The bankruptcy filing says Agriprocessors owes $50 million to $100 million to creditors.
The plant was the site of a May 12 immigration raid in which 389 people were arrested.
A lawyer for the company did not immediately return a call today seeking comment.
Also in today's news, the Gordon slaughterhouse in Gordon, NB, run by Agriprocessors has closed because of the financial problems the kosher meat company is having.
The phone number for the Local Pride LLC plant that Agriprocessors ran was disconnected today.
And Rabbi Menachem Genack, CEO of the Orthodox Union, said the Local Pride plant in Gordon closed several days ago when Agriprocessors lost its line of credit because the company couldn't afford any new cattle.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 10:53 AM Suri - Kosher Palin Pig Says:
I am sure the OU is still giving supervision. Will they never back down?
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Nov 05, 2008 at 10:52 AM bitachon Says:
Are they still shechting?
How will the lubashkins support themselves now?
Pay attention all large business owners. Under president elect obama, you will be in a much higher tax bracket if you make over 200,000 a year. That means that there will nebach be layoffs downsizing and outsourcing of business and chas veshalom even closing of companies.
It's a shame that rubashkin had to go down so fast so messy and so shameful. had they closed because of taxes it would not have to shame us as a people.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 10:36 AM Anonymous Says:
While I am not certain of Hashems cheshbonos I can clearly make an assumption that Hashem is not pleased with all the meat consumption. It is an outrage that we have been so used to fressing every type of meat and steak thats out there with out any regard for halacha and yiras hashem. In the olden days yidden kept meat for special occasions and for shabbos and yom tov and did not dare to consume the amounts of meat that we are doing today. This country is so dead spoilt and megushem you people dont know whats in store for you and how you will cope when the ecconomy really shatters and people will be left penniless and without any means to buy any of the luxuries you are all so used to
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Nov 05, 2008 at 10:40 AM Anonymous Says:
The Union and PETA got their wish.
If it's true, how much they owe, the economy just got another blow.
Hope the Union and PETA feel good about themselves.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:02 AM Freedom Fighter Says:
To all you bashers out there. Be careful for what you prayed for. You might yet regret the terrible injustice handed to this family. This destruction of Rubashkin is good for noboby. Nobody. Nobody. Not even you.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 10:45 AM mendy shapiro Says:
STOP BEFORE POSTING!
The Rubashkin family has endured much tzoros over the last few months. Please be considerate before posting any criticism. They need your chizzuk now. They need your tefillos. Please be mentchlich. (Unfortunately many hundreds of families are unemployed as a result and kosher meat prices will see inflation like never before).
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Nov 05, 2008 at 10:36 AM Anonymous Says:
Now, common all heimishe antisemitten to lash out at rubashkin for the "big sin" they're doing now..
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Nov 05, 2008 at 10:36 AM Anonymous Says:
it will be good B"H hashem is leading us! No Chillul hashem wad done he had the same employees than almost evrey work force in usa see Osha.com
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:12 AM Eat leshem Shomaim Says:
The Torah says that eating meat from an ox allows a Yid to understand better Torah.
The Torah also says that an am hooretz should not eat meat.
The lesson is obvious, it depends what you do with the extra nutrition you get from the meat. an am hooretz has his capabilities of using it for good limited and he may use it in the wrong way, but those that will use the extra nutrition to understand the Torah better, to do mitzvos in a more lively way with Iras Shomaim and will do the things that are permissible with a leshem Shomaim intention (for the sake of Heaven) it is good.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:11 AM dudi Says:
First, if they are destroyed, there will be opportunity for others to make some money. Second, our demographic's need for kosher meat does not stop just because Agri is crippled. Someone will take the initiative and fill the hole. I just don't know who the lucky one will be.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:11 AM Anonymous Says:
you are all idiots, the only ones who are going to suffer from this is you. we will not be able to find koshe meat and chicken for a reasonable price anymore. All those haters out there you got your wish, to have such hate for another yid whether they be Lubavitch or Satmar or non religious is dispicable and because of your Sinas Chinam Moshiach is not coming, and with the way things are going now with the goverment and everything else, we need Moshiach now more than ever.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:17 AM never give up Says:
This is a terrible thing for everyone involved. For all the workers that will be laid off and for all the Tomchei Shabbos org. they helped out. We are all gonna pay a bIG price for this. May Hashem send them a speedy yeshua so that so many poor people will not suffer and that so many breadwinners wont be left w/o an income. Everyone please daven for them Sholom Mordechai Halevi ben Rifka. Thank you.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:21 AM M. Richter Says:
Finnaly they took a step in the right dirrection, let them change the name of the plant as all other troublesome co. Did, let all who don't wanna work there find themselvs another job, whoever dosent wanna eat their meat its a free country!!!
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:20 AM Anonymous Says:
“ The Union and PETA got their wish.
If it's true, how much they owe, the economy just got another blow.
Hope the Union and PETA feel good about themselves. ”
The sad part is, this is going to happen more often now that the libs have total control they will undermine every industry
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:23 AM Jeremy Jolley Says:
“ you are all idiots, the only ones who are going to suffer from this is you. we will not be able to find koshe meat and chicken for a reasonable price anymore. All those haters out there you got your wish, to have such hate for another yid whether they be Lubavitch or Satmar or non religious is dispicable and because of your Sinas Chinam Moshiach is not coming, and with the way things are going now with the goverment and everything else, we need Moshiach now more than ever. ”
Since when is any kosher meat reasonably priced?
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:30 AM bright side Says:
i am sure there alot of people here reading this that know what happens in bankrupcy court
the court appoints an overseer he decide what happens etc.
but the main is the farshulteneh goverment will not get one red cent in fines for what they did
and people be aware this (a ice raid) can happen to any business i know it happened to me here in brooklyn and it cost me money and i also went out of buisness so be carefull what you wish for
and besides now with our new president the unions just got alot stronger and they will be comming to every SMALL business in new york to unionize so when they come after you remeber what your comments or thoughts were today
let us all pray that we love our fellow yid and that we are truely zoicheh to the geulah now
may hashem have pity on us all and take us out of this golus
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:35 AM Anonymous Says:
the rubashkins ROCK...and to all those who are jealous u will see that they will grow stronger and stronger. its a shame that jews can talk like this about other fellow jews .. they have a huge blessing for making kosher meat for practically all the usa and we all know that when the govermant decides to nail someone ..they will do it no matter who it hurts...so please say a prayer for the family,,and hundreds of other jewish families so that they can get back on there feet and pruduce alot more meat!!!!!
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:55 AM eli Says:
Its not the worst thing. Sometimes you have to use the laws and protection from the government to protect yourself. That is what is great about this country.
This is a perfect example of when chapter 11 is and should be used.
When all cards are stacked against you. There is no choice but to.
Many rich and famous people have filed chapter 11 to help them keep going and stand on there feet. Even the egotistic Donald Trump has filed for chapter 11.
I view this as a positive step.
Good luck.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 11:54 AM Kogan Says:
“ I am sure the OU is still giving supervision. Will they never back down? ”
Since when is it OU responsibility to attend to anything else, but whether the meat is kosher or not. But you should be happy, since there is no production there is really no OU. At least the illigal immigrant workers have hope for change now. Obama will give them amnesty, so instead of earning their living at the oppressive Agri processors they will be able to join the ranks of welfare recepients, so that you can finally stop being selfish ant take care of people in need.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 12:41 PM Charlie Hall Says:
“ The Torah says that eating meat from an ox allows a Yid to understand better Torah.
The Torah also says that an am hooretz should not eat meat.
The lesson is obvious, it depends what you do with the extra nutrition you get from the meat. an am hooretz has his capabilities of using it for good limited and he may use it in the wrong way, but those that will use the extra nutrition to understand the Torah better, to do mitzvos in a more lively way with Iras Shomaim and will do the things that are permissible with a leshem Shomaim intention (for the sake of Heaven) it is good. ”
There have been some great rabbis who were vegetarians, including Rabbi Dovid Cohen z'tz'l and Rabbi Shlomo Goren z'tz'l.
This situation is terrible for the creditors who lent money on good faith. I pray that Agriprocessors is able to reorganize and pay their creditors in full. If not, the creditors may end up owning the company.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 12:19 PM Kapishta rebbe Says:
"you are all idiots, the only ones who are going to suffer from this is you. we will not be able to find koshe meat and chicken for a reasonable price anymore.">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We are not idiots. You think by not eating meat we will suffer. Your a spoiled American. As for Rubashkin this is not a matter of fealing bad or feeling good. Of course nobody wants to see another yid suffer but when you break laws after laws after laws what on earth are we supposed to do feel bad for them?
We will get meats and chickens from Meal Mart, Empire and other sources.
Where is the outrage and tefillos for people that are and were being abused by others and or teachers in yeshivos?
Why arent we davening for moshiach? Why aren't we davening for shalom bayis? Why aren't we davening for parnassah? There is so much to daven for but all "YOU IDIOTS" can think of is food and how your going to miss eating meat?
Some of the comments are pothetic. People are getting killed in Israel. People can't afford food or feed their families in klal yisroel but some of you are worried as to where you will be able to get meat!
Who's the idiot now?
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Nov 05, 2008 at 12:17 PM Moyshe Zichemch Says:
“ While I am not certain of Hashems cheshbonos I can clearly make an assumption that Hashem is not pleased with all the meat consumption. It is an outrage that we have been so used to fressing every type of meat and steak thats out there with out any regard for halacha and yiras hashem. In the olden days yidden kept meat for special occasions and for shabbos and yom tov and did not dare to consume the amounts of meat that we are doing today. This country is so dead spoilt and megushem you people dont know whats in store for you and how you will cope when the ecconomy really shatters and people will be left penniless and without any means to buy any of the luxuries you are all so used to ”
You are right, but i would add one more point: more meat also means less possibility to be medakdek behalocho 100%!!!
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Nov 05, 2008 at 12:16 PM Anonymous Says:
sad day Rubashkin kept prices in check for many years.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 12:44 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Since when is any kosher meat reasonably priced? ”
yes it is resonably priced for Kosher mear, no not compared to not Kosher food, you just wait you will see how high the prices are going to go up for meat and chicken.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 01:00 PM Anonymous Says:
Agri provided enormous quantities of meat to Chabad Houses on campuses all over the country. College kids who never ate kosher food in their lives were able to do so because of the Rubashkin family's generosity. No excuse for breaking laws, but please realize that this affects many many fellow Yidden whom they helped do a mitzvah in otherwise frei lives.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 01:00 PM mark Says:
it is already happening, kosher poultry prices are going up next week, if Agri is not saved we will be paying $3.50 lb for Chicken bottoms, it is a struggle to get kosher Beef & Poultry, just appreciate whatever your butcher has for you.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 12:14 PM Anonymous Says:
AGRI schechted 60% of the kosher animals. Do you have any idea what will happen to supply and prices now?
Steak will become a Rosh Chodesh treat. Cholent will be parve or made with chicken. JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS!
As a citizen of the USA, THE UNIONS WILL KILL THIS COUNTRY!
GM & Chrysler want money from the government. why? TO PAY THE UNIONS!
The ONLY REASON this is happening to a YID, instead of PURDUE OR TYSON is because THE AIBISHTER IS TELLING US TO WAKE UP!!!!
The Rubashkin Family are BIG BALEI CHESED! We do not know WHY the AIBISHTER has given them this NISAYON. That is between THEM AND THE AIBISHTER.
We need to help them, comfort them, and offer words of chizuk.
When we will be able to find THE ONLY PERSON IN AMERICA THAT IS 100% CLEAN, Then they can talk.
did you ever cross the street against the light?
did you ever 'roll" through a stop sign?
did you ever talk on your cell phone while driving?
did you ever take a pencil or a pen home from the office?
DID YOU EVER BUY SOMETHING OUT OF STATE, AND NOT PAY SALES TAX TO YOUR HOME STATE??? (yes, buy a coat in NJ for $300, and you owe NY sales tax) "Ain tzadik b'olem asher lo yechta!"
sound familiar???
ashreichem mishpachas RUBASHKIN.
may the Aibisheter give you all the kochos to overcome these nisyonos!
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Nov 05, 2008 at 12:06 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Since when is any kosher meat reasonably priced? ”
If you think we were paying too much
until know, just wait and see. Everyone
is a big knocker when it came to beating up on Rubashkin, now we will really have to pay through the nose.
The Rubashkins should have a Yeshua
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Nov 05, 2008 at 12:05 PM Reality Check Says:
The real chillul Hashem is the gloating from other “Yidden”
at the distress and suffering of the Rubashkins.
Where is the “achdus”?
What kind of rachmonus do you expect if you are so
harsh to your own bretheren?
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Nov 05, 2008 at 01:39 PM Anonymous Says:
“ AGRI schechted 60% of the kosher animals. Do you have any idea what will happen to supply and prices now?
Steak will become a Rosh Chodesh treat. Cholent will be parve or made with chicken. JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS!
As a citizen of the USA, THE UNIONS WILL KILL THIS COUNTRY!
GM & Chrysler want money from the government. why? TO PAY THE UNIONS!
The ONLY REASON this is happening to a YID, instead of PURDUE OR TYSON is because THE AIBISHTER IS TELLING US TO WAKE UP!!!!
The Rubashkin Family are BIG BALEI CHESED! We do not know WHY the AIBISHTER has given them this NISAYON. That is between THEM AND THE AIBISHTER.
We need to help them, comfort them, and offer words of chizuk.
When we will be able to find THE ONLY PERSON IN AMERICA THAT IS 100% CLEAN, Then they can talk.
did you ever cross the street against the light?
did you ever 'roll" through a stop sign?
did you ever talk on your cell phone while driving?
did you ever take a pencil or a pen home from the office?
DID YOU EVER BUY SOMETHING OUT OF STATE, AND NOT PAY SALES TAX TO YOUR HOME STATE??? (yes, buy a coat in NJ for $300, and you owe NY sales tax) "Ain tzadik b'olem asher lo yechta!"
sound familiar???
ashreichem mishpachas RUBASHKIN.
may the Aibisheter give you all the kochos to overcome these nisyonos!
”
Stop shouting and let the abishter take care of things. If hashem feels that meat should be a rosh chodesh treat then so be it . By u screaming , ranting and raving on this site isnt gonna help u , me or rubashkin
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Nov 05, 2008 at 02:02 PM Hirshel,Zemach Zedek,Monsey Says:
This is not pretty for anyone with a yiddishe heart.But will the alarmists please ease off?
There is adequate supply of kosher meat, this is not Russia, other companies exist and will pick up the slack.Prices will not go sky high.Todays enviroment will not allow it.
In addition it appears that the matsav in Agri was not so rosy, they did not accumulate 50 to a 100 million in debt in the last couple of months.
LASTLY:Eating meat is not healthy.It would be great if we went back to the old times of eating meat on yom tov and chicken on shabbos.
I wish the Rubashkins well and empathise with them in this difficult hour
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Nov 05, 2008 at 01:37 PM Anonymous Says:
Did Alle packing re-open or are they still closed?
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Nov 05, 2008 at 02:28 PM Only Teshuva can Save the Situation Says:
I am not NAMING and NAMES, of WHO needs to do Teshuva but if anyone "tries on the hat" and it fits, obviously it is meant only for whomever "the hat fits" and if you disagree, then you shouldn't be insulted because we couldn't have possibly meant "you".
In reality we ALL (every single one of us all), ALL need to do Teshuva.
The only answer is Teshuva.
All Yidden have to do Teshuva all the time, but when a major tragedy strikes, Chazal Say "Yefashfesh B'Maasov" and the Rambam says it is Midas Achzorias to say "Mikre Nikra" Chas Vesholom.
1) Needless to say that anyone who has a hand in throwing out any Mara Deasra out of his office, has a lot of Teshuva to do and needs to ask mechila and make amends.
2) Needless to say that anyone who doesn't pay any Mara Deasra for several years and then "does a favor" (only because of the condition of the loan he got and only because of that he) pays barely 1/2 the agreed upon salary without any of the years worth of the arrears, owed pay, has a lot of Teshuva to do.
3) Needless to say that if the KAJ had to remove their Hechsher, for KASHRUS REASONS, (from any establishment doesn't matter which one) we should ask KAJ for suggestions how to improve the Kashrus instead of FRESSING "a lower standard Kashrus" (Beloshon Nekiya) and now, be left with nothing at all.
4) Needless to say that anyone who attempts to be a dictator al hatziburm and to then install fake "rabbis" to dictate to the tzibur against the will of the people has a lot of Teshuva to do.
It's only Miktzas Shvocho Befonov and only the Tip of the Iceberg but a good start nonetheless.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 02:28 PM Anonymous Says:
Are you all satisfied now? Not only is Parnassah destroyed for many Frum Yidden, We will all pay a heck of a lot more for meat & chicken. It will be in short supply.
Fish is expensive too.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 02:21 PM Anonymous Says:
None of this would have happened if the laws in question were not broken. The point is not that they've been persecuted more than others or given more enforcement than others, but if you break any laws, no matter how miniscule, law enforcement has a right to uphold the law wether there is an agenda or not. Bottom line: If you don't break any laws, then you would'nt give any reason for ICE or other agencies to go after you. That being said and as a fellow yid, I wish them well and hope that some good will come out of all this for all involved.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 02:43 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Since when is it OU responsibility to attend to anything else, but whether the meat is kosher or not. But you should be happy, since there is no production there is really no OU. At least the illigal immigrant workers have hope for change now. Obama will give them amnesty, so instead of earning their living at the oppressive Agri processors they will be able to join the ranks of welfare recepients, so that you can finally stop being selfish ant take care of people in need. ”
yes - come april 15th 2010 yuo will pay nicely!!!
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Nov 05, 2008 at 02:45 PM Anonymous Says:
“ yes it is resonably priced for Kosher mear, no not compared to not Kosher food, you just wait you will see how high the prices are going to go up for meat and chicken. ”
I just love shopping at Costco and walking past treyfe meat at less than half of what I pay - even on sale or at the kollel store. Can you imagine 1st cut corned beef at $3.99lb. Saw it recently
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Nov 05, 2008 at 01:35 PM Anonymous Says:
“ If you think we were paying too much
until know, just wait and see. Everyone
is a big knocker when it came to beating up on Rubashkin, now we will really have to pay through the nose.
The Rubashkins should have a Yeshua ”
i donr mind paying an inflated price knowing that my meat is TRULY kosher and TRULY Fresh and TRULY clean and above all was roduced by a company that makes a kiddush hashem.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 01:34 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The real chillul Hashem is the gloating from other “Yidden”
at the distress and suffering of the Rubashkins.
Where is the “achdus”?
What kind of rachmonus do you expect if you are so
harsh to your own bretheren? ”
stop using frum quotes and and stop hiding behing your fake yeshivish mask . The damage was done by none other then the rubashkins . They didnt listen to us when we asked them to shape up . why should we listen them now??
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Nov 05, 2008 at 01:33 PM Anonymous Says:
“ "you are all idiots, the only ones who are going to suffer from this is you. we will not be able to find koshe meat and chicken for a reasonable price anymore.">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We are not idiots. You think by not eating meat we will suffer. Your a spoiled American. As for Rubashkin this is not a matter of fealing bad or feeling good. Of course nobody wants to see another yid suffer but when you break laws after laws after laws what on earth are we supposed to do feel bad for them?
We will get meats and chickens from Meal Mart, Empire and other sources.
Where is the outrage and tefillos for people that are and were being abused by others and or teachers in yeshivos?
Why arent we davening for moshiach? Why aren't we davening for shalom bayis? Why aren't we davening for parnassah? There is so much to daven for but all "YOU IDIOTS" can think of is food and how your going to miss eating meat?
Some of the comments are pothetic. People are getting killed in Israel. People can't afford food or feed their families in klal yisroel but some of you are worried as to where you will be able to get meat!
Who's the idiot now?
”
Of couse we will get meat from other places but at what price? a tray of chicken with go for $12 minumim, can you afford to pay for that when you have ten kids and shabbos meals to prepare each week? if Agri is no longer the competion your Empire and Meal Mart prices are going way up. Wake up!
Yes we are all upset and sickened abt the abuse thats going on in our yeshivos but that is not what we are talkin abt here. This article is abt Agri filing Chapter 11 not which school teacher molested their students.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 01:31 PM Anonymous Says:
Now is not the time to blame anyone for this but the owners themselves. They were warned time after time to shape up civily and halachicly . Empire, now is your chance to make things right . Hope to have you in my freezer sooner then later
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Nov 05, 2008 at 03:02 PM Anonymous Says:
If you're concerned about prices, let's just all eat less meat. Less consumption = less demand = lower prices, plus we will all be healthier & I"H live longer.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 03:09 PM Anonymous Says:
“ While I am not certain of Hashems cheshbonos I can clearly make an assumption that Hashem is not pleased with all the meat consumption. It is an outrage that we have been so used to fressing every type of meat and steak thats out there with out any regard for halacha and yiras hashem. In the olden days yidden kept meat for special occasions and for shabbos and yom tov and did not dare to consume the amounts of meat that we are doing today. This country is so dead spoilt and megushem you people dont know whats in store for you and how you will cope when the ecconomy really shatters and people will be left penniless and without any means to buy any of the luxuries you are all so used to ”
excuse me who are you to say what ppl can eat
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Nov 05, 2008 at 01:23 PM Anonymous Says:
“ "you are all idiots, the only ones who are going to suffer from this is you. we will not be able to find koshe meat and chicken for a reasonable price anymore.">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We are not idiots. You think by not eating meat we will suffer. Your a spoiled American. As for Rubashkin this is not a matter of fealing bad or feeling good. Of course nobody wants to see another yid suffer but when you break laws after laws after laws what on earth are we supposed to do feel bad for them?
We will get meats and chickens from Meal Mart, Empire and other sources.
Where is the outrage and tefillos for people that are and were being abused by others and or teachers in yeshivos?
Why arent we davening for moshiach? Why aren't we davening for shalom bayis? Why aren't we davening for parnassah? There is so much to daven for but all "YOU IDIOTS" can think of is food and how your going to miss eating meat?
Some of the comments are pothetic. People are getting killed in Israel. People can't afford food or feed their families in klal yisroel but some of you are worried as to where you will be able to get meat!
Who's the idiot now?
”
according to forward they have illegal too.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 01:16 PM Anonymous Says:
Tomchai Shabbos in Monsey Received two pallets of chicken every week from Rubashkin to be distributed free.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 03:23 PM Actually Says:
One or 2 days of fasting a week would be good for all balabatim, not just for the Kollel lasd. And we should be thankful we dont need diapers for our kids like the Kollel Bochurs
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Nov 05, 2008 at 03:38 PM Anonymous Says:
#44, its not me that says it, its chazal
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Nov 05, 2008 at 04:03 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Tomchai Shabbos in Monsey Received two pallets of chicken every week from Rubashkin to be distributed free. ”
it wasnt tzedahka . it was mitzvbah habah b`aveyra.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 04:02 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Tomchai Shabbos in Monsey Received two pallets of chicken every week from Rubashkin to be distributed free. ”
it wasnt free. He shouldve paid his creditors efore he gave out tzedaka and he shouldve of paid ALL his workers and on time before he starts flaunting his tzidkis
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Nov 05, 2008 at 04:09 PM Anonymous Says:
want to wish the rubashkin family alot of Hatzlocha , we have you in mind by our tefilos,
Mit de Aibeshters hilf alas vet zein git , in es vet zein besser
stay strong and keep your head high, (ignore all the nonsense)
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Nov 05, 2008 at 04:08 PM mark Says:
guy's, poultry is very short, among the distributors orders can not be filled for tomorrow ,drastic cuts are being made, there is 0 beef available, there is no cheaper beef available for production, that forces the manufacturers to use expensive meat for deli products.
WE NEED someone to open ANOTHER BEEF PLANT, does anyone know about a Rav that would have any interest doing it , if not the market will be controlled by 2 company's
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Nov 05, 2008 at 05:48 PM Chabura Chickens Says:
If you want cheaper prices for chicken go to NPGS in Lakewood. They charge 1.69 a pound for bottoms. I think tops are around 2.50 a pound and cut ups are about 2.29 a pound. This is an OU/KAJ sh'chita exclusivly sold at NPGS. If you are going to Lakewood it might be worth it to bring a cooler to fill up for your trip home. Buy a bag of ice to throw on top of it and it will last for hours!
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Nov 05, 2008 at 05:57 PM moshel Says:
this sounds like a modern day slavita shas story. although rabbi heineman is not reb akiva eiger, nevertheless it was a tremendous bizoyan hatorah when they vilified and smeared him for starting a shchita (i think it was called Davids) which by the way would have kept down the price of kosher meat
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Nov 05, 2008 at 08:00 PM Aron Says:
My wife and I decided to try to do all our meat purchases at Rubashkin's on 14th Ave (Brooklyn). They need our moral and our financial support. Maybe a few mistakes were made, but they don't deserve all this "holier-than-thou" bashing. I grew up with them, even lived in their basement after a fire left our family without a home. The entire Rubashkin family are from the finest around.
To all you bashers: you're not even 1% compared to them.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 07:56 PM Anonymous Says:
If this what Hashem wants, then we must accept it. Perhaps Hashem is sending a message, with the AgriProcessors bankruptcy and the philanthropy problem.
Perhaps it is time to reexamine where the source of the chesed money comes from, and adopt greater ehrlichkeit in business dealings.
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Nov 05, 2008 at 08:46 PM postville resident Says:
Please post on your website:
Due to the May immigration RAID:
Our small town of Postville has reduced in population from 3000 to 2200. We have 850 housing units of which 300-400 are directly connected to Agriprocessors or people who derive their living from Rubashkins in some way. The housing market has plummeted due to the raid.
There are approximately 100 committed Postville families (own a home etc.) who have not seen a paycheck for several weeks and don't know how long it will be until they do see one.
We are running out of money to pay utilitys, water,gas etc.
With out talking about money for basic food !
These people are still teaching, cooking for yeshiva bochrim, and shechting for free!! They are Jewish mothers who are standing on the assembly line packing chickens to be shipped to YOUR grocery.
These families are committed to Agriprocessors and to Postville.
We don't have any other source of income but Agri,
This will be a big mitzva if u can help
We have a non-profit, tax-deductible fund set up for the benefit of these working families. Receipts will be mailed to you. For donations, see below:
JRC, (Jewish Resource Center), P.O. Box 730, Postville, IA 52162. OR, phone credit/debit info to: 563.864.3450
FAX 563.864.3460
$$ amount,
CC #
exp. Date
3 digit security code
zip code of billing address for your card.
If you are also interested in assisting Rubashkins directly, please contact me at above number.
Amy Tamar Dickel, Agent
State Farm Insurance Companies
Providing Insurance and Financial Services
P.O. Box 730
101 N. Lawler
Postville, IA 52162
Ph. 563.864.3450
Fax 563.864.3460
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Nov 05, 2008 at 08:33 PM Oy Gevald Says:
“ While I am not certain of Hashems cheshbonos I can clearly make an assumption that Hashem is not pleased with all the meat consumption. It is an outrage that we have been so used to fressing every type of meat and steak thats out there with out any regard for halacha and yiras hashem. In the olden days yidden kept meat for special occasions and for shabbos and yom tov and did not dare to consume the amounts of meat that we are doing today. This country is so dead spoilt and megushem you people dont know whats in store for you and how you will cope when the ecconomy really shatters and people will be left penniless and without any means to buy any of the luxuries you are all so used to ”
Hmmm. Before Rubashkin's rise to fame, pizza is and remains the fress of the day. So you think Hashem likes us etaing pizza better? Or is pizza about to implode as well?
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Nov 05, 2008 at 08:57 PM Anonymous Says:
“ While I am not certain of Hashems cheshbonos I can clearly make an assumption that Hashem is not pleased with all the meat consumption. It is an outrage that we have been so used to fressing every type of meat and steak thats out there with out any regard for halacha and yiras hashem. In the olden days yidden kept meat for special occasions and for shabbos and yom tov and did not dare to consume the amounts of meat that we are doing today. This country is so dead spoilt and megushem you people dont know whats in store for you and how you will cope when the ecconomy really shatters and people will be left penniless and without any means to buy any of the luxuries you are all so used to ”
you people dont know whats in store for you................
and how you will cope when the ecconomy really shatters...... any of the luxuries you are all so used to........
My god! you exclude yourself from Klala Yisroel so easaly! You decided what Hashem is happy with and what not!! You decided that meat on an ordinary Tuesday is not OK, but blogging on the net is perfectly fine!! You are one sick dude!!
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Nov 05, 2008 at 10:46 PM Anonymous Says:
“ i am sure there alot of people here reading this that know what happens in bankrupcy court
the court appoints an overseer he decide what happens etc.
but the main is the farshulteneh goverment will not get one red cent in fines for what they did
and people be aware this (a ice raid) can happen to any business i know it happened to me here in brooklyn and it cost me money and i also went out of buisness so be carefull what you wish for
and besides now with our new president the unions just got alot stronger and they will be comming to every SMALL business in new york to unionize so when they come after you remeber what your comments or thoughts were today
let us all pray that we love our fellow yid and that we are truely zoicheh to the geulah now
may hashem have pity on us all and take us out of this golus ”
Try complying with the Laws of the land not hiring illegals, properly pay sales and other taxes, and complying with the OSHA laws and maybe the "farshulteneh government" won't bother you....
It never ceases to amaze me how many frum yidden think they are above the law and that laws are only desgined for "naarisheh goyim"--not "kligeh yidden" and then scream and cry about the government when they get caught and penalized....
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Nov 06, 2008 at 03:04 AM Chana L. Schochet Says:
A boycott of Jewish doctors, lawyers, and cattle dealers was instituted by the Nazis on April 1, 1933.
"Zechor Yemos Olam Binu Shnos Dor V'Dor."
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Nov 06, 2008 at 05:49 AM Anonymous Says:
“ want to wish the rubashkin family alot of Hatzlocha , we have you in mind by our tefilos,
Mit de Aibeshters hilf alas vet zein git , in es vet zein besser
stay strong and keep your head high, (ignore all the nonsense) ”
Just remember how good this family is.
Rubashkin gets prison sentence
A son of Agriprocessors Inc. founder Aaron Rubashkin was sentenced Tuesday to 16 months in federal prison for his role in having hazardous waste stored illegally in a Pennsylvania textile mill he owned with his son.
Moshe Rubashkin, 50, of New York City pleaded guilty to charges in February after a federal investigation found that he and his son, Sholom Rubashkin, 29, had stored containers of hazardous waste at Montezz Textiles in Allentown, Pa.
Sholom Rubashkin — who is the nephew of ex-Agriprocessors leader Sholom Rubashkin — pleaded guilty to one count of making a materially false statement to EPA investigators. He is to be sentenced Dec. 29.
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency officials and local authorities found that the plant had various hazardous wastes stored there without the necessary environmental permits after the plant was closed in 2001.
A major cleanup of the plant was ordered by the EPA after two fires had occurred at the site after it closed.
Over the next few months, there were three more fires — one of which was attributed to arson.
U.S. District Judge James Knoll Gardner ordered Moshe Rubashkin to pay $7,500. Gardner also ordered Moshe Rubashkin and Sholom Rubashkin to pay $450,000 in restitution.
"These defendants demonstrated an utter disregard for the safety of the community surrounding their Allentown business," said Acting U.S. Attorney Laurie Magid. "It is only proper that they should have to bear the cost of cleaning up the site and serve a term of imprisonment."
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Nov 06, 2008 at 07:03 AM Anonymous Says:
A look at the bankruptcy list includes Rabbi Weismandl as a creditor, but does not list Rabbi Zeilengold. Rabbi Zeilengold is a Rubashkin relative that gives hashgacha to the non-glatt meats.
Charity begins at home, I guess.
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Nov 06, 2008 at 09:40 PM Just Be Honest Says:
“ STOP BEFORE POSTING!
The Rubashkin family has endured much tzoros over the last few months. Please be considerate before posting any criticism. They need your chizzuk now. They need your tefillos. Please be mentchlich. (Unfortunately many hundreds of families are unemployed as a result and kosher meat prices will see inflation like never before). ”
The Rubashkins indeed need our chizzuk now. They were overcome with greed and their yezher hora took over them, not only here but in their plants in Allentown, PA. They need our pity and our forgiveness. We need to tell them we forgive them but what they did was wrong. It was a chillul Hashem and they must make it right. And Crown Heights cannot put a Rubashkin as a leader of a Crown Heights Community Council in charge of federal funds weeks after he was let out of prison. By doing so they have blessed the horrible acts they have perpetrated and are telling the world that Lubavitch does not follow the laws of our land.
The Rabbis inform us (Talmud Shabbos 31a) that the first question asked to us after death by the heavenly tribunal is “were you honest in your business dealings?”
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Nov 07, 2008 at 05:24 AM Anonymous Says:
“ The Rubashkins indeed need our chizzuk now. They were overcome with greed and their yezher hora took over them, not only here but in their plants in Allentown, PA. They need our pity and our forgiveness. We need to tell them we forgive them but what they did was wrong. It was a chillul Hashem and they must make it right. And Crown Heights cannot put a Rubashkin as a leader of a Crown Heights Community Council in charge of federal funds weeks after he was let out of prison. By doing so they have blessed the horrible acts they have perpetrated and are telling the world that Lubavitch does not follow the laws of our land.
The Rabbis inform us (Talmud Shabbos 31a) that the first question asked to us after death by the heavenly tribunal is “were you honest in your business dealings?” ”
I disagree. We do not need them in any business situation. We do not need them in charge on people and money.
I believe that Sholom was a rabbi in Chabad when he went to work for his father. I would not doven in a shul where he would be the 'spiritual leader'.
All the white prople look at Jesse Jackson with distain and mistrust. He fathered a child with a secretary, while he was councelling Clinton how to be faithful. Hypocrite!!
Same with Rubashkin. I cannot trust someone who MANY MANY TIMES fooled the public and created the biggest Chillul Hashem ever (on a worldwide scale).
After this plays out, I want to see what their actions are. Will they publically state that they did no wrong? Will they take the assets and live on that while leaving hundreds of ruined lives behind? Think of all the goyim that curse their name. Think of the Yidden who lost their parnossa because of greed.
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Nov 07, 2008 at 07:48 AM Anonymous Says:
“ STOP BEFORE POSTING!
The Rubashkin family has endured much tzoros over the last few months. Please be considerate before posting any criticism. They need your chizzuk now. They need your tefillos. Please be mentchlich. (Unfortunately many hundreds of families are unemployed as a result and kosher meat prices will see inflation like never before). ”
Give THEM chizuk? THEY endured tzaros?
Everything that they did was a direct result of THEIR actions.
We should give chuzuk to the workers (jewish and non-Jewish) that are out of jobs.
We should give chizuk to the store owners who were put out of business by the Rubashkin family.
We should give chizuk to the store owners who, temporarily, cannot get meat. The prices will go up in a SMALL WAY for a few weeks, then the supply will get better.
We should give chizuk to creditors of Rubashkin (many, many jews on that list) who just lost their shirts because of the bankruptcy.
THAT is who we should give chizuk to. Giving chzuk to the Rubashkins only empowers them to do it again.