Bnei Brak, Israel – With anxiety and uncertainly roiling at the recent election of Barack Obama, As a young inexperienced chief will take the helm of being the president of the united States, Rabbi Chaim Kanievksy, Shlita, reacted to the development by saying there was nothing to worry about.
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In an apparent response to requests for guidance regarding the issue, Rabbi Kanievsky compared Sen. Obama to King Hordus, who rose from humble origins to become king of ancient Israel and build the Beis Hamikdash.
HORDUS FIRST KILLED THE CHAHCHAMIM BEFORE HE BUILTTHE BEIS HAMIKDASH WHICH ONLY LASTED A SHORT TIME THEREAFTER.
Unfortunatrly Hordus commited many atrocities, before he bahan doing some good. So I hope he is not like hordus (Herod)
something is missing to this story, i can’t accept this as repoted, it doesn’t make any sense.
“With anxiety and uncertainly roiling some in the international frum Jewish community at the recent election of Barack Obama as America’s first black president”
Oh please you make it sound like all of us are freaking out that a black guy was elected ………………not all of us are reactionist kooks (although unfortunately a lot of us seem a tad racist )
My point is the yeshiva hockers should go back to their gemaras and calm down -you make us all look braindead
Umm…is that a good thing as Hordus rebuilt the Beis Hamikdash or is that a bad thing because he slaughtered many people beforehand?
He may have been referring to what the Gemara says about Hordus, “eved ki yimloch…..”
this story is so not true. hordus, or herod, was no commoner, and i think a gadol batorah like rav chaim kanievsky would know that! he came from very well connected parents in the roman aristocracy. he was no light weight like obama, and had actual governing experience before becoming a king. he was governor first of the galil (galilee) and the sanhedrin despised him. (so did the christians for that matter, as he was considered a murderer of the innocent. maybe that is where they share similarity, as he is for killing innocent babies born from botched abortions.) i guess like herod, obama will buy the people with public projects. the only difference is , here in this country, the people pay for it, not the romans!
Well the point I guess rabbi made is that this man was comng from slavery and woke up one day that he wants to be presdent and in no time he got where he is now this seems like a miracle
who is he to tell us anything about Obama what does he know allready
he only left baba ben buta and he poked his eyes out…
killed the whole family of chashmonoim, and saved the girl in honey
Who is intrested what Rabbi Kanievsky says ?
there will be a clarification as to what reb chaim shlita said; possibly meant to say that his rise to president was so ” lemaalah miderech hateva” & that it will turn out good bezh “vchol maaminim .. shehu levado manhig lechol haberuim..
this has got to be misquoted. r’ chaim kanievsky shlita exists in so many more dimensions than we know exist, it is not likely he would have said this as its being reported. humble origins? yup, son of diplomat ivy league law school… please omg why are we so pathetic…
The Arabs and the Muslims voted for Obama, as did 8 in 10 Jews. Considering that the President has a lot to do with whether or not Israel remains an American ally, who was crazy?
The real question is who cared the most about Eretz Yisroel.
The Jews didn’t mind that Obama belonged to a church which honored Louis Farakhan. The Jews didn’t mind Obama’s 20-year relationship with his mentor Reverend Jeremiah Wright, an anti Semite like Farakhan. The Jews didn’t mind that Obama’s church sympathized with Hamas, including Hamas literature in the church bulletins. The Jews didn’t mind that Obama’s friends included Rashid Khalidi, an anti-Semite from the PLO, nor did they lose any sleep that Obama’s buddies included a Syrian born gangster, Tony Rezko, presently convicted for racketeering in Chicago. Heck, let’s all join the party. Who raised Obama’s $600 million? Clue: Not Hadassah.
8 in 10 American Jews spurned John McCain, a man with a long, unimpeachable record of supporting Israel, a man who repeatedly pledged that he would never permit a Second Holocaust.
If a white Republican party presidential candidate had belonged to a church which honored anti-black racists, the Jews, and the Democrats, and the New York Times, would have never dropped the subject.
The breadth and common-placeness of the double standard is both breathtaking and ominous.
What does this mean? It means that the Jews in America, as an ethnic group, have lost what little influence they may have had in American politics. Those who wish Jews ill always claim that Jews control the government. The fact is Jewish influence has been modest.
Now it is eviscerated, courtesy of Jewish spinelessness and lack of gratitude to gentile friends who have shown graciousness towards Jews and concern for the Jews in Israel.
The Jews in America have shown themselves to be without a clue about who they are and incapable of distinguishing between friend and deadly foe. The fact that Obama will surround himself with Jewish advisers is not meaningful. The advisers derive their power from Obama, not the other way around.
When Obama begins to suffocate Israel in a year, or two, or three, his Jewish acolytes will be there to explain how wonderful it all is.
How many more -500 stock market days will it take to change this “there’s nothing to worry about” to “be very worried” ?
How can anyone attack Maran Rav Kanievsky???? He’s a Godol Hador.
may the rav’s words take in affect asap
Nice of this Rav to put a haskama on Obama. But why does it matter?
# 2 – I can’t agree with you more.
#16 – you are obviously IGNORANT. (you’ll do much better in life by keeping your foolish comments to yourself)
im a lubavitcher chossid and i dont know how true it is what people say what rav chaim said but i personaly met rav chaim and he is huge tzadik he learns all shas every year and i heard personal stories from rav chaim that he gave big brochos and they were reveled and i would just like to say who ever knows rav chaim he only writes few words and thats it so i would like to see on paper from what the rav said
To Poster #16 and #18
moshe Says: Who is intrested what Rabbi Kanievsky says ?
Misnaged Says: who is he to tell us anything about Obama what does he know allready
You are michutzofim of the highest degree. How dare you speak against a godol hador? You are lower than an ant compared to him. I dont envy your lot.
If I vote against Obama because he’s black, I’m a racist. But if millions of blacks voted for him for the same reason, they are not racist???
to NOCLUE the beis hamikdash stood for almost 100 years after hordus renovated it
In the meantime the Republicans have so messed up the world. They have sunk into an endless war in Iraq while letting the Iranians build the biggest threat to Jews since Hitler without lifting a finger to stop them. I fear that the US has exhausted itself by total mismanagement
Obama came from out of nowhere to become king.
This is obviously not normal.
Exciting times are on the way.–Stay tuned.
If a godol says something that dosent make sense we have to readjust our thinking becasue obviously the problem lies with us.
If Hashem himself would come down and say something good about Obama the people on this site would somehow find a way to twist things around, everybody here wants so much for him to fail.
But that could never happen since Hashem is obviously a republican.
Wow if misnagdim critise him he must be a real tzaddik!