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“Bloomberg is essentially saying, ‘Look, we can possibly generate $16 million with this scheme, so the public be damned,’” said an incensed Hikind. Wall Street’s meltdown has already cost New York State 160,000 jobs, and the Mayor just yanked the $400 City property tax rebate out from under struggling homeowners.
“While Bloomberg is busy seeing green, New Yorkers, especially in my district, are seeing red.” Hikind said. “How does the Mayor expect New Yorkers to have any cash to spare when people are already overtaxed and overburdened?”
The Mayor’s proposal, which requires the approval of the City Council before it becomes law, will charge shoppers a six-cent fee for every plastic bag used at all checkout registers. Five of the six cents will be directed to City coffers, while one cent goes to the merchants as payment for complying with the measure. Current estimates put New Yorkers’ plastic bag usage at one billion bags per year. The City plans to implement the fee by next summer.
Hikind argued, “The Mayor can call his plan whatever he wants, but at the end of the day, it’s nothing more than a tax, tax, tax. This matter should be brought before the State legislature for consideration. I am confident that given the opportunity, my colleagues and I will have the good sense to defeat this proposal.”
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Nov 10, 2008 at 10:39 AM MOSHE Says:
cant wait till bloomberg will leave new york
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Nov 10, 2008 at 10:43 AM Big Masmid Says:
can some one explain why 6 cent and not...
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Nov 10, 2008 at 10:45 AM Anonymous Says:
This is probably how this guy became a billionaire.
Hikind is right. This is outrageous.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 10:44 AM Anonymous Says:
some of us mothers will be shlepping boxes from the store! I dont think so.
Not that i dont make orders and receive boxes. But now we will not want to spend money on bags, chas v'sholom. So we will make more orders, have more boxes to recycle to make the city more messy ,to collect money on tickets for unclean sidewalks etc.
JUst give me a plastic bag please, i need to throw out some diapers.
I can collect it in a box and send it to city hall.
I still need those bags, and my food pays for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM Joseph Says:
Oh stop it!
If people would bring their OWN bags, they wouldn't have to pay a cent! Hikind is making it sound like everyone MUST pay extra, and it's simply not true. Don't be so lazy and uncaring about the environment (not to mention more dependent on Arab oil for the petroleum to make the plastic bags) and you'll be fine.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 10:41 AM YENTA PESHA Says:
the mayor could afford to pay for everyone's plastic bag!!!! is there a tax on toilet paper yet???
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:03 AM Anonymous Says:
America wake up,socialism is on the march from Washington DC all across the once great democracy
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:06 AM Anonymous Says:
every other day you hear another fee added to breath the air in new york city.
one day congestion pricing, the next day its tolls on the bridges, then away with the property tax then a hike in the tickets now a fee for using plastic bags, the WORKING CLASS people are suffering, you dont hear a proposal to rerduce the section 8 program, or to limit the years on the program, can you imagine there are people n the section 8 program from the day they are married till they die ! they just never make any money within the 45 years of working, how about reduce the wic checks how about reduce the food stamps, how about all the goodies the POOR are lucky to recieve - the poor equals the non working class those you see with the tefilin 12 in the noon because uncle same takes care of them, that is not touched, anybody has any solution how to HELP the working class people who work 3 weeks out of 4 to pay their rent, who work to buy those nice peaches and plumbs the non working guy enjoys to eat, or the free schooling the non working guy enjoys for his kids.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 10:58 AM Anonymous Says:
or i will buy everything online,or i will have them deliver it to me..
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:14 AM Galitziyaner Says:
Will Food stamps pay for my bags...? I dont even thing it pays for a grocery to enforce such a low, this mean that ppl will think twice b4 they buy a kleinekeit & will rather ask 4 box deliveris & the stores will have to hire more mexican delivery guys etc.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:21 AM Conservative One Says:
Dov Hikind again has shown the courage to stand up to outrageous politicians and Bloomberg is at the top of the class and this bum wants another 4 years. Throw him out now.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:54 AM Askipeh Hanidreses Says:
This is just the beginning. If he gets his way, he will tax everything and anything. Let's stop him before it's too late. In principle I'll refrain from buying plastic bags until this "gezeiroh" (yes it is a gezeirah) gets rescinded.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:47 AM FVNMS Says:
You know what ppl? All of your kvetching annoys me to the point of insanity. YOU VOTED FOR THIS MORON! when he was runing it was all "bloomy this, mike that!" and now you voted for obama. you did - i didn't. so stop kvetching. joseph you're such a cliche. the environment is fine and stop being so arrogant as to think you could save it if it wasn't.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:45 AM Anonymous Says:
GET HIM OUTTA OFFICE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM Anonymous Says:
First the six cents for bags so you get shopping delivered in boxes. Next the one dollar tax per box so people back out of deliveries, instead gantze mishpoches drien zich un frien zich in grocery.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:27 AM calm down! Says:
“ every other day you hear another fee added to breath the air in new york city.
one day congestion pricing, the next day its tolls on the bridges, then away with the property tax then a hike in the tickets now a fee for using plastic bags, the WORKING CLASS people are suffering, you dont hear a proposal to rerduce the section 8 program, or to limit the years on the program, can you imagine there are people n the section 8 program from the day they are married till they die ! they just never make any money within the 45 years of working, how about reduce the wic checks how about reduce the food stamps, how about all the goodies the POOR are lucky to recieve - the poor equals the non working class those you see with the tefilin 12 in the noon because uncle same takes care of them, that is not touched, anybody has any solution how to HELP the working class people who work 3 weeks out of 4 to pay their rent, who work to buy those nice peaches and plumbs the non working guy enjoys to eat, or the free schooling the non working guy enjoys for his kids.
”
before you talking like this make some research how much your maximum income could be to get this programs such as f.s. wic section 8, you might be suprised that you are aligable for most me them, good look, see you next week with you Tfilen @ 12pm...
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Nov 10, 2008 at 12:09 PM Anonymous Says:
“ GET HIM OUTTA OFFICE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ”
DITTO
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Nov 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM Babitchke Says:
can you imagin how the city will look when everyone will go shopping with this old style metal folding 'vegalech' which our baabe's using when they going in the grocery...
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Nov 10, 2008 at 12:21 PM UBET Says:
#6 Of course there's tax on toilet paper!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 12:51 PM M. Richter Says:
For all those who fool themselves think 6 cents ma kul harash... Let's not forget before this guy came into office ppl. Also figured sometimes maybe its worth the risk to jump into a store & risk the 35 dollar parking ticket now its at 110, same here before you know this guy gets another term & the price per bag is at 25 cents. If the City is so desperatly bleeding & these 6 cents realy count let them cut all those cradit card that the city emloyees enjoy on free lunches ETC.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 01:06 PM Anonymous Says:
soon he will charge for every METZITZEH BPEH that we make
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Nov 10, 2008 at 01:24 PM Anonymous Says:
i dont understand why you guys are so angry, live is still not so expensive, you can still cross the street for "FREE"...
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Nov 10, 2008 at 02:09 PM Michelle Says:
I bought some of those bags from Waldbaum's for 99 cents. They're more durable than the plastic bags we get. Might be worthwhile.
We should all start saving our Glatt Mart bags! Those are the BEST!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 02:48 PM yeapb Says:
Wake up America, this time you lot are behind times - here in the UK many supermarkets (not the heimishe ones yet) charge 3p or 6p per carrier bag to encourage re-use of bags for conservation purposes. All the groceries now charge a fee for deliveries on orders under a certain amount. I imported a large shopping cart from the US a few years ago and it gets plenty of use!!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 03:40 PM The Enviroment , but who cares???? Says:
I love Hikind for his recent actions against molesters... but i honestly think he missed the point here and is making people angry for no reason!
Bloomberg (and anyone else around the world that cares about the environment) is working very hard to save our planet that WE LIVE on and is reducing our dependence on oil from the countries that we have major conflict with!!
I used to be the shopping bag lover, yet since i opened my eyes a little bit and did some research I realized that I was WRONG!
Plastic bags hurt our environment, hurt our health, our food gets poisoned, animals die and we hurt our children’s future and causes us to depend on things we don’t need....
here is a easy solution for everyone (and all you naive complainers): like i bought myself, 7 - 8 canvas fabric large bags that i can wash and that has a lot more durability then the plastic bags that is bad for every reason ... all the bags cost me 5$ ... it did not make me broke .... And also let’s not forget ... so many of us get their groceries delivered in carton boxes....
Please recycle, please stop being so ignorant, please care some more for our health, planet and for our future generation!
Here if you care, please read:
http://www.reusablebags.com/facts.php
http://environmental-activism.suite101.com/article.cfm/say_no_to_plastic_bags
Excerpt:
Consider the following shocking facts about plastic shopping bags:
• Plastic bags are made of polyethylene
• Polyethylene is a petroleum product
• Production contributes to air pollution and energy consumption
• Four to five trillion plastic bags are manufactured each year
• Americans use over 380 billion polyethylene bags per year
• Americans throw away approximately 100 billion polyethylene bags per year
• Of those 100 trillion plastic bags, 1% are recycled
• It takes 1000 years for polyethylene bags to break down
• As polyethylene breaks down, toxic substances leach into the soil and enter the food chain
• Approximately 1 billion seabirds and mammals die per year by ingesting plastic bags
• Plastic bags are often mistaken as food by marine mammals. 100,000 marine mammals die yearly by eating plastic bags.
• These animals suffer a painful death, the plastic wraps around their intestines or they choke to death
• Plastic bag choke landfills
• Plastic bags are carried by the wind into forests, ponds, rivers, and lakes
• There are alternatives to plastic bags. All of this death and pollution is unnecessary
The 6 pennies is just a wakeup call and also almost to push those ppl that don’t care into having to behave right by default!! Thank you to Bloomberg for getting something right, and thank you to everyone that cares and does things to make our world a better place!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 03:41 PM Joseph Says:
“ You know what ppl? All of your kvetching annoys me to the point of insanity. YOU VOTED FOR THIS MORON! when he was runing it was all "bloomy this, mike that!" and now you voted for obama. you did - i didn't. so stop kvetching. joseph you're such a cliche. the environment is fine and stop being so arrogant as to think you could save it if it wasn't. ”
I wish I could be so arrogant as to think I could save it if it will be in big trouble. If I can't save it, at least we should take steps to prevent what could be a big problem later on. Conserving and reusing durable bags wouldn't hurt anyone, except maybe the Arabs since we would cut down on oil (which is used to make the bags, I'm sure you didn't realize that).
And how do YOU know the environment is fine, Professor FVNMS? Because you heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show???
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Nov 10, 2008 at 03:46 PM fight the meyer Says:
“ Wake up America, this time you lot are behind times - here in the UK many supermarkets (not the heimishe ones yet) charge 3p or 6p per carrier bag to encourage re-use of bags for conservation purposes. All the groceries now charge a fee for deliveries on orders under a certain amount. I imported a large shopping cart from the US a few years ago and it gets plenty of use!! ”
start saving you shopping bags now
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Nov 10, 2008 at 03:45 PM kvetcher Says:
“ Wake up America, this time you lot are behind times - here in the UK many supermarkets (not the heimishe ones yet) charge 3p or 6p per carrier bag to encourage re-use of bags for conservation purposes. All the groceries now charge a fee for deliveries on orders under a certain amount. I imported a large shopping cart from the US a few years ago and it gets plenty of use!! ”
right but here in USA we will be band from reusing used shopping bags
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Nov 10, 2008 at 03:44 PM 770 Says:
“ i dont understand why you guys are so angry, live is still not so expensive, you can still cross the street for "FREE"... ”
You are right but we want to pay 25 sense and not just 6
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Nov 10, 2008 at 04:03 PM Go ahead .... Says:
“ right but here in USA we will be band from reusing used shopping bags ”
add fule to a fire that should not have been lit .... please read #25 you are UNINFORMED !
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Nov 10, 2008 at 04:56 PM Anonymous Says:
Why does this upset people...Is it an affront to our freedom. We've ALWAYS gotten free bags...Well cost is cost. So cigarettes are $9/pack. Business owners will eat the 6 cents or pass it on to consumers in some other way. I lived in Germany in the 80's. It cost 20 pfennings for a a bag. Other people brough in mesh bags. 6 cents a bag x 30 bags a week = $1.80 x 52 weeks a year = $93.60/yr... 2 months ago I paid $70 to fill up my car...This week $39 in Jersey. Get over it.. Now if you want to talk about money and aggravation let's talk New Tolls on East river crossings!!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 05:10 PM Askipah Hanidreses Says:
“ I love Hikind for his recent actions against molesters... but i honestly think he missed the point here and is making people angry for no reason!
Bloomberg (and anyone else around the world that cares about the environment) is working very hard to save our planet that WE LIVE on and is reducing our dependence on oil from the countries that we have major conflict with!!
I used to be the shopping bag lover, yet since i opened my eyes a little bit and did some research I realized that I was WRONG!
Plastic bags hurt our environment, hurt our health, our food gets poisoned, animals die and we hurt our children’s future and causes us to depend on things we don’t need....
here is a easy solution for everyone (and all you naive complainers): like i bought myself, 7 - 8 canvas fabric large bags that i can wash and that has a lot more durability then the plastic bags that is bad for every reason ... all the bags cost me 5$ ... it did not make me broke .... And also let’s not forget ... so many of us get their groceries delivered in carton boxes....
Please recycle, please stop being so ignorant, please care some more for our health, planet and for our future generation!
Here if you care, please read:
http://www.reusablebags.com/facts.php
http://environmental-activism.suite101.com/article.cfm/say_no_to_plastic_bags
Excerpt:
Consider the following shocking facts about plastic shopping bags:
• Plastic bags are made of polyethylene
• Polyethylene is a petroleum product
• Production contributes to air pollution and energy consumption
• Four to five trillion plastic bags are manufactured each year
• Americans use over 380 billion polyethylene bags per year
• Americans throw away approximately 100 billion polyethylene bags per year
• Of those 100 trillion plastic bags, 1% are recycled
• It takes 1000 years for polyethylene bags to break down
• As polyethylene breaks down, toxic substances leach into the soil and enter the food chain
• Approximately 1 billion seabirds and mammals die per year by ingesting plastic bags
• Plastic bags are often mistaken as food by marine mammals. 100,000 marine mammals die yearly by eating plastic bags.
• These animals suffer a painful death, the plastic wraps around their intestines or they choke to death
• Plastic bag choke landfills
• Plastic bags are carried by the wind into forests, ponds, rivers, and lakes
• There are alternatives to plastic bags. All of this death and pollution is unnecessary
The 6 pennies is just a wakeup call and also almost to push those ppl that don’t care into having to behave right by default!! Thank you to Bloomberg for getting something right, and thank you to everyone that cares and does things to make our world a better place!
”
Ah sheinah megillah; but Bloomberg DOES want you to use shopping bags, because he needs badly its income of 16 million dollars (I'm not joking). Therefore if you won't use shopping bags, then he’ll tax something else; because environment is not the reason - money is. Once this is forced on us, there is no going back, but it will be expanded to more essentials. Don’t be happy that someone else’s house is burning, because your house is next.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 05:23 PM You still ... Says:
“ Ah sheinah megillah; but Bloomberg DOES want you to use shopping bags, because he needs badly its income of 16 million dollars (I'm not joking). Therefore if you won't use shopping bags, then he’ll tax something else; because environment is not the reason - money is. Once this is forced on us, there is no going back, but it will be expanded to more essentials. Don’t be happy that someone else’s house is burning, because your house is next. ”
don't get the point ... how ignorant ...
many supermakets, cities and coutries have already done this, we are way behind ...
Instead of all this negativity you have in your heart, bring some joy and care into this world, you would do yourself and your family a lot more good ... more than having these "facts" that you are soo sure of ...
I hope that more initiatives will start everywhere to make this world a better place.... renewable energy and more ... if you are upset now, I look forward to making you more upset , because that means a better world for the rest :)
Unlike you, I want my children (that i will have one day soon) to breath clean air, eat healty food and live a clean beautiful planet for years to come , and yes, i care about the animals too ... dont you ? tzar bal hachai ? isnt that a sin when you do it intentionally ?
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Nov 10, 2008 at 05:41 PM Elchonon Says:
“ I love Hikind for his recent actions against molesters... but i honestly think he missed the point here and is making people angry for no reason!
Bloomberg (and anyone else around the world that cares about the environment) is working very hard to save our planet that WE LIVE on and is reducing our dependence on oil from the countries that we have major conflict with!!
I used to be the shopping bag lover, yet since i opened my eyes a little bit and did some research I realized that I was WRONG!
Plastic bags hurt our environment, hurt our health, our food gets poisoned, animals die and we hurt our children’s future and causes us to depend on things we don’t need....
here is a easy solution for everyone (and all you naive complainers): like i bought myself, 7 - 8 canvas fabric large bags that i can wash and that has a lot more durability then the plastic bags that is bad for every reason ... all the bags cost me 5$ ... it did not make me broke .... And also let’s not forget ... so many of us get their groceries delivered in carton boxes....
Please recycle, please stop being so ignorant, please care some more for our health, planet and for our future generation!
Here if you care, please read:
http://www.reusablebags.com/facts.php
http://environmental-activism.suite101.com/article.cfm/say_no_to_plastic_bags
Excerpt:
Consider the following shocking facts about plastic shopping bags:
• Plastic bags are made of polyethylene
• Polyethylene is a petroleum product
• Production contributes to air pollution and energy consumption
• Four to five trillion plastic bags are manufactured each year
• Americans use over 380 billion polyethylene bags per year
• Americans throw away approximately 100 billion polyethylene bags per year
• Of those 100 trillion plastic bags, 1% are recycled
• It takes 1000 years for polyethylene bags to break down
• As polyethylene breaks down, toxic substances leach into the soil and enter the food chain
• Approximately 1 billion seabirds and mammals die per year by ingesting plastic bags
• Plastic bags are often mistaken as food by marine mammals. 100,000 marine mammals die yearly by eating plastic bags.
• These animals suffer a painful death, the plastic wraps around their intestines or they choke to death
• Plastic bag choke landfills
• Plastic bags are carried by the wind into forests, ponds, rivers, and lakes
• There are alternatives to plastic bags. All of this death and pollution is unnecessary
The 6 pennies is just a wakeup call and also almost to push those ppl that don’t care into having to behave right by default!! Thank you to Bloomberg for getting something right, and thank you to everyone that cares and does things to make our world a better place!
”
This data has been proven false, plastic bags make very small if any enviermental impact.
If YOU dont want to use plastic bags, kol hakavod.. this is america.. you cant force others to adapt your lifestyle. excessive taxtation is why the founding fathers rose up against the british..
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Nov 10, 2008 at 06:29 PM huggy Says:
“ I love Hikind for his recent actions against molesters... but i honestly think he missed the point here and is making people angry for no reason!
Bloomberg (and anyone else around the world that cares about the environment) is working very hard to save our planet that WE LIVE on and is reducing our dependence on oil from the countries that we have major conflict with!!
I used to be the shopping bag lover, yet since i opened my eyes a little bit and did some research I realized that I was WRONG!
Plastic bags hurt our environment, hurt our health, our food gets poisoned, animals die and we hurt our children’s future and causes us to depend on things we don’t need....
here is a easy solution for everyone (and all you naive complainers): like i bought myself, 7 - 8 canvas fabric large bags that i can wash and that has a lot more durability then the plastic bags that is bad for every reason ... all the bags cost me 5$ ... it did not make me broke .... And also let’s not forget ... so many of us get their groceries delivered in carton boxes....
Please recycle, please stop being so ignorant, please care some more for our health, planet and for our future generation!
Here if you care, please read:
http://www.reusablebags.com/facts.php
http://environmental-activism.suite101.com/article.cfm/say_no_to_plastic_bags
Excerpt:
Consider the following shocking facts about plastic shopping bags:
• Plastic bags are made of polyethylene
• Polyethylene is a petroleum product
• Production contributes to air pollution and energy consumption
• Four to five trillion plastic bags are manufactured each year
• Americans use over 380 billion polyethylene bags per year
• Americans throw away approximately 100 billion polyethylene bags per year
• Of those 100 trillion plastic bags, 1% are recycled
• It takes 1000 years for polyethylene bags to break down
• As polyethylene breaks down, toxic substances leach into the soil and enter the food chain
• Approximately 1 billion seabirds and mammals die per year by ingesting plastic bags
• Plastic bags are often mistaken as food by marine mammals. 100,000 marine mammals die yearly by eating plastic bags.
• These animals suffer a painful death, the plastic wraps around their intestines or they choke to death
• Plastic bag choke landfills
• Plastic bags are carried by the wind into forests, ponds, rivers, and lakes
• There are alternatives to plastic bags. All of this death and pollution is unnecessary
The 6 pennies is just a wakeup call and also almost to push those ppl that don’t care into having to behave right by default!! Thank you to Bloomberg for getting something right, and thank you to everyone that cares and does things to make our world a better place!
”
You sound like a tree hugger to me.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 06:29 PM Anonymous Says:
Moving to NJ, enough of these stupid gezairos!!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 05:55 PM WOW .. Says:
“ This data has been proven false, plastic bags make very small if any enviermental impact.
If YOU dont want to use plastic bags, kol hakavod.. this is america.. you cant force others to adapt your lifestyle. excessive taxtation is why the founding fathers rose up against the british.. ”
really???? where exactly did you go to school ? Where did you get your proof from ??? School of what ?
You surly sound genius ... many countries, people, scientists created this movement out of utter stupidity ... right ? Good thing you are not leading anyone in this world! that would be destruction !
Kol hakavod to your genius mind of yours !!
Good should always be supported!!! as long as your pockets is bigger , that is all that matters right ???
Don’t "Pay" Bloomberg the money, stop complaining and use CANVAS ... oh, you will have to pay or do what I do :) that is the great thing here , good will win anyways :)
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Nov 10, 2008 at 08:15 PM Anonymous Says:
#5 & #25 have great points.
Congestion pricing and tax on shopping bags have a lot of sense. Unfortunately, nobody wants to look into Mayor’s proposals and work on it together with him. The Mayor really cares about people!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 07:57 PM Anonymous Says:
I just moved out of NYC. Good riddance!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 09:49 PM FVNMS Says:
“ I wish I could be so arrogant as to think I could save it if it will be in big trouble. If I can't save it, at least we should take steps to prevent what could be a big problem later on. Conserving and reusing durable bags wouldn't hurt anyone, except maybe the Arabs since we would cut down on oil (which is used to make the bags, I'm sure you didn't realize that).
And how do YOU know the environment is fine, Professor FVNMS? Because you heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show??? ”
No I heard Dan Rather say it. And I read a piece by Jayson Blair about it as well. Just about everyone who we should worship belives it too, ya know, folks like Al Gore, Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnell, Madonna... Rush Limbaugh doesn't know what he's talking about! I'd so rather get my information from Katie Couric, Matt Lauer, Andrea Mitchell, Arianna Huffington and other normal people. I drink with thirst their words and in the dirt of their feet do I roll. Rush Limbaugh? Bah! Humbug!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 09:46 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I wish I could be so arrogant as to think I could save it if it will be in big trouble. If I can't save it, at least we should take steps to prevent what could be a big problem later on. Conserving and reusing durable bags wouldn't hurt anyone, except maybe the Arabs since we would cut down on oil (which is used to make the bags, I'm sure you didn't realize that).
And how do YOU know the environment is fine, Professor FVNMS? Because you heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show??? ”
Oh my goodness! Get a life! You think 'cause you have nothing to do, people that don't have an extra minute should have to deal with litlle cloth bags? Maybe you shouldn't use toilet paper, you moron! Use a cloth and rewash it. Plastic containers, forks, spoons, and plates are also a problem by you? Get a job, for cryin' out loud!
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:18 PM Joseph Says:
“ Oh my goodness! Get a life! You think 'cause you have nothing to do, people that don't have an extra minute should have to deal with litlle cloth bags? Maybe you shouldn't use toilet paper, you moron! Use a cloth and rewash it. Plastic containers, forks, spoons, and plates are also a problem by you? Get a job, for cryin' out loud! ”
It's funny you say that I'm the one who should "get a life" when you're so pathetic that you have to post two comments in a row with two different names, one (trying very hard to sound) like an intellectual and the second in an attacking way. You're really so transparent both in your argument and in your comments it's very sad.
Your silly moniker of FVNMS aptly applies to you.
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Nov 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM chuchem Says:
good luck for the bag manufacters!!! that the groceries will start selling shopping bags per bundles!!!! and let's see how the mayer will like that!!!!
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Nov 11, 2008 at 07:41 AM Anonymous Says:
And now, let's get our pots ready to pick up the milk in the grocery (or farm..) before crazy Bloomberg decides to ban the plastic milk bottles..
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Nov 11, 2008 at 09:29 AM Anonymous Says:
I live in Queens -- but close enough to Nassau that I do all my shopping there. TOO BAD ON YOU, Mayor Mike!
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Nov 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM Anonymous Says:
“ some of us mothers will be shlepping boxes from the store! I dont think so.
Not that i dont make orders and receive boxes. But now we will not want to spend money on bags, chas v'sholom. So we will make more orders, have more boxes to recycle to make the city more messy ,to collect money on tickets for unclean sidewalks etc.
JUst give me a plastic bag please, i need to throw out some diapers.
I can collect it in a box and send it to city hall.
I still need those bags, and my food pays for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ”
Hey wait not so quick ... boxes will cost 15 cents !
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Nov 11, 2008 at 10:44 AM Why cant we Says:
Lead by Example and for once make a kiddush hashem VS. a chillul hashem ??
We should be the ones having large recyclingh containers and all of us that have sewing skills, sew some strong washable fabric bags to show that we DO care about the world. We have large families and we sure can show that we can make a difference by leading by example. Can you immagine how much less oil woul be needed if our communities make an innitative with achdus ? can achdus be used for a good cause ?
You dont know how badly I wish this could happen, for once , instrad of constant negativity ....
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Nov 12, 2008 at 07:17 PM yeapb Says:
“ right but here in USA we will be band from reusing used shopping bags ”
I'm not so sure about that, once you have the bag you probably won't get chaqrged, I think, if you do some research, they mean when you get a new bag you pay.