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The officials said they expect her to accept. Clinton aides had no comment.
The choice unites the two rivals in the most protracted presidential primary in American history, giving Obama the "Team of Rivals" Cabinet he had promised.
Former President Bill Clinton authorized unprecedented disclosures about his finances to Obama's vetting team, and transition lawyers are satisfied, officials said.
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Nov 20, 2008 at 11:18 PM Anonymous Says:
is this good or bad?
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Nov 20, 2008 at 11:24 PM AAA Says:
Now That's Change
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Nov 20, 2008 at 11:37 PM BH Says:
this is great for obama, great the world, great for the us, great for israel
and a loss for new york
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Nov 20, 2008 at 11:34 PM arony Says:
That's very good... She has a great history for us NY jews.. Ask any "asken" and he will tell you about it..
Is she pro-isreal? I don't know and little do I care... Isrealy officials themselfs are not pro isreal (sharon, livni etc;)
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Nov 20, 2008 at 11:32 PM Anonymous Says:
The shaviger with the eidam... Look at the picture.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 12:01 AM chaim Says:
abame those not have any odder choice because she is perfect to making trouble for the next elections
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Nov 21, 2008 at 12:30 AM oy Says:
“ That's very good... She has a great history for us NY jews.. Ask any "asken" and he will tell you about it..
Is she pro-isreal? I don't know and little do I care... Isrealy officials themselfs are not pro isreal (sharon, livni etc;) ”
1. she is very pro israel. more so than most other senators from either party
2. sharon and livni are more "pro israel" than any of us. they love their country regardless of political party
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Nov 21, 2008 at 03:02 AM Anonymous Says:
“ 1. she is very pro israel. more so than most other senators from either party
2. sharon and livni are more "pro israel" than any of us. they love their country regardless of political party ”
I think she has a strong sense
of people and government. This aids our great country and help reinforce our drive for a socialist society."we need government".
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Nov 21, 2008 at 02:30 AM Anonymous Says:
“ 1. she is very pro israel. more so than most other senators from either party
2. sharon and livni are more "pro israel" than any of us. they love their country regardless of political party ”
As someone who lives in Israel, I have to say that your comment is really clueless. Yes, they love their country- so much so that they want to give it away to other people. Also, religious Jews love the country just as much; it just so happens that our love is based on Mitzvos, so we care whether a secular anti-religious government wins or not.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 02:29 AM Anonymous Says:
Some of you are either very young or have a short term memory.
PLO had nothing, nothing at all up untill Clinton. Israeli soldiers were patroling all of Israel and the PLO was nothing but a bunch of Hoodlooms with knives and rocks. They had no guns no uniforms and no territory where to fight from. The borders were controlled by all of Israel as well. Came the Clintons and created autonomous areas called area A, B and C. He gave them guns and they created a police force aka terrorist entity named Al Aksa and Hamas. They attacked day and night with their guns and bus bombs, maimed young mothers and children, and Clinton demanded give more and more just to show goodwill.
You were definitly not around if you can say otherwise. Arafat only move to Israel in 1994. Clinton also awarded Arafat with the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, before there was even a sign of peace. The PA was a result of the Oslo agreement. These are concrete facts. Just look into any encyclopedia or google and you'll find that everything I wrote is a fact.
Hillary Clinton was sitting on the same stage and receiving a simultaneous translation of Mrs. Arafat's speech where she accused Israel of poisoning the palastinians, she sat silent and then embrace and kissed her. Hillary's spokesman at the time said it's a "local issue" that miss Clinton wont comment on. This is a fact, now she claimes nothing until she writes in her memoir where she claimed she didn't understand the translation. You can believe her, I dont.
Noble Peace Price winner Arafat was created by Clinton, the whole PA was created by Clinton. Everything their weapons the territory and all that came after that, is Clintons credit and you say Clinton was good for Israel? Why?
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Nov 21, 2008 at 01:51 AM Anonymous Says:
“ 1. she is very pro israel. more so than most other senators from either party
2. sharon and livni are more "pro israel" than any of us. they love their country regardless of political party ”
They are pro political preservation at all costs
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Nov 21, 2008 at 01:43 AM She is pro Israel? Says:
So is that why she publicly kissed Shua Arafat after this "Zeresh" said that Israel is poisoning Arab babies?
I would hate to know what anti-Israel looks like? I guess she is not Ahmadinejad so it could be worse...
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Nov 21, 2008 at 01:25 AM brooklyndoc Says:
I guess when lakewood had hillary there for a fundraiser- it wasn't such a money waster after all.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 01:21 AM Milhouse Says:
Good it's not, but it's probably the best that we could expect from Obama. I'm finding it hard to come up with the name of a Democrat I would prefer in that seat. Bill Richardson, maybe. Sam Nunn? George Mitchell? At any rate, she's certainly better than some of the names that were being floated, especially John Kerry!
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Nov 21, 2008 at 07:13 AM Anonymous Says:
“ I think she has a strong sense
of people and government. This aids our great country and help reinforce our drive for a socialist society."we need government". ”
Oh lord, I do hope you are being sarcastic. More "socialist" government is, and never will be the answer. It has never worked anywhere it's been tried so why try here?
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Nov 21, 2008 at 07:09 AM comsense08 Says:
“ The shaviger with the eidam... Look at the picture. ”
Absolutely right. Most people in their blind rush to put Obama in there miss these subtle little signs of his arrogance, and those who support him. This is just sick, no humble leader here.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 07:02 AM Moishe Says:
To #10 (anonymous): You know nothing. Oslo was a total Israeli prodiction -- Clinton didn't even know about the negotiations between Israel and the PLO until it was nearly a done deal. And it wasn't just Rabin and Peres -- for the first few years of Oslo, every single poll in Israel showed the country overwhelmingly in favor. You can't expect an American president to be more hawkish on Israel than Israelis themselves.
To others who say appointing Hillary is a bad thing or the best we could expect from Obama: Hillary has been one of the most pro-Israel senators for eight years now. The Left hates her for her centrist foreign policy views. Obama's pick of Hillary should make any of us who doubted him feel much better.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 07:33 AM Anonymous Says:
Mayber she will have some influance o Japan, to release the 4 Chariedy Bucherem.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 10:49 AM FrummeDem Says:
“ So is that why she publicly kissed Shua Arafat after this "Zeresh" said that Israel is poisoning Arab babies?
I would hate to know what anti-Israel looks like? I guess she is not Ahmadinejad so it could be worse... ”
Yes. habe you care to even see all she has done for the last decade as a senator?
Holocaust victim restitution? Magen david adom? palestinian media watch? 100% pro israel voting record?
how about all that plus much much more?
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Nov 21, 2008 at 10:48 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Some of you are either very young or have a short term memory.
PLO had nothing, nothing at all up untill Clinton. Israeli soldiers were patroling all of Israel and the PLO was nothing but a bunch of Hoodlooms with knives and rocks. They had no guns no uniforms and no territory where to fight from. The borders were controlled by all of Israel as well. Came the Clintons and created autonomous areas called area A, B and C. He gave them guns and they created a police force aka terrorist entity named Al Aksa and Hamas. They attacked day and night with their guns and bus bombs, maimed young mothers and children, and Clinton demanded give more and more just to show goodwill.
You were definitly not around if you can say otherwise. Arafat only move to Israel in 1994. Clinton also awarded Arafat with the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, before there was even a sign of peace. The PA was a result of the Oslo agreement. These are concrete facts. Just look into any encyclopedia or google and you'll find that everything I wrote is a fact.
Hillary Clinton was sitting on the same stage and receiving a simultaneous translation of Mrs. Arafat's speech where she accused Israel of poisoning the palastinians, she sat silent and then embrace and kissed her. Hillary's spokesman at the time said it's a "local issue" that miss Clinton wont comment on. This is a fact, now she claimes nothing until she writes in her memoir where she claimed she didn't understand the translation. You can believe her, I dont.
Noble Peace Price winner Arafat was created by Clinton, the whole PA was created by Clinton. Everything their weapons the territory and all that came after that, is Clintons credit and you say Clinton was good for Israel? Why? ”
WOW! this is revisionism if i have ever read it.
where do you get your history from? biased comic books? you have no clue what you are talking about and are spewing revsisionist spin on recent current events and facts that are not an accurate portrayal of what happened at all.
You are in denial of reality and a historical revisionist.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 10:46 AM anon Says:
“ As someone who lives in Israel, I have to say that your comment is really clueless. Yes, they love their country- so much so that they want to give it away to other people. Also, religious Jews love the country just as much; it just so happens that our love is based on Mitzvos, so we care whether a secular anti-religious government wins or not. ”
they want people to stop getting killed. they will do whatever they think is best to stop people from dying even if it means making sacrifices. and yes peres and livni care more for the land if israel than any vosi iz neias commenter in northeastern america.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 10:51 AM History Teacher Says:
“ To #10 (anonymous): You know nothing. Oslo was a total Israeli prodiction -- Clinton didn't even know about the negotiations between Israel and the PLO until it was nearly a done deal. And it wasn't just Rabin and Peres -- for the first few years of Oslo, every single poll in Israel showed the country overwhelmingly in favor. You can't expect an American president to be more hawkish on Israel than Israelis themselves.
To others who say appointing Hillary is a bad thing or the best we could expect from Obama: Hillary has been one of the most pro-Israel senators for eight years now. The Left hates her for her centrist foreign policy views. Obama's pick of Hillary should make any of us who doubted him feel much better. ”
EXACTLY!
THis sick myth of modern history that clinton created oslo makes me so ill. (its like a way of denying that Bush actually wrote his confounded road map).
Every idiot knows the Oslo accords were done in SECRET on a mountain retreat in Oslo, Norway.
Then the parties (rabin/peres and arafat/abbas) came and literally dropped it on bill clintons lap.
THAT is how it happened, plain and simple FACT.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 11:11 AM Anonymous Says:
i'm happy
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Nov 21, 2008 at 10:58 AM Anonymous Says:
“ To #10 (anonymous): You know nothing. Oslo was a total Israeli prodiction -- Clinton didn't even know about the negotiations between Israel and the PLO until it was nearly a done deal. And it wasn't just Rabin and Peres -- for the first few years of Oslo, every single poll in Israel showed the country overwhelmingly in favor. You can't expect an American president to be more hawkish on Israel than Israelis themselves.
To others who say appointing Hillary is a bad thing or the best we could expect from Obama: Hillary has been one of the most pro-Israel senators for eight years now. The Left hates her for her centrist foreign policy views. Obama's pick of Hillary should make any of us who doubted him feel much better. ”
You're lying through your nose. Natanyahu won the next election after oslo, people were angry, very angry. There were bodyparts of young children all over and Clinton gives Arafat a Nobel PEACE prize?
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Nov 21, 2008 at 11:44 AM idiot Says:
“ You're lying through your nose. Natanyahu won the next election after oslo, people were angry, very angry. There were bodyparts of young children all over and Clinton gives Arafat a Nobel PEACE prize? ”
wow, you just proven how stupid you are.
CLINTON gave arafat the NOBEL peace prize? hahahahahaha. lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
boy are you STOOOOPID.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 11:51 AM Anonymous Says:
“ EXACTLY!
THis sick myth of modern history that clinton created oslo makes me so ill. (its like a way of denying that Bush actually wrote his confounded road map).
Every idiot knows the Oslo accords were done in SECRET on a mountain retreat in Oslo, Norway.
Then the parties (rabin/peres and arafat/abbas) came and literally dropped it on bill clintons lap.
THAT is how it happened, plain and simple FACT. ”
Yes it was and Clinton was behind it. We all remember how Rabin didn't even wan to give his hand to Arafat, he was literally pushed by Clinton with his hands, just go look at that famous picture. I even remember people gasping, it was as if Bush gave his hand to Bin Laden. Arafat was a feared terrorist who killed thousands in Jordan and hundreds in Lebonon and then in Israel, Clinton felt he deserved the Noble PEACE Prize.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM Hostorian Says:
“ Yes it was and Clinton was behind it. We all remember how Rabin didn't even wan to give his hand to Arafat, he was literally pushed by Clinton with his hands, just go look at that famous picture. I even remember people gasping, it was as if Bush gave his hand to Bin Laden. Arafat was a feared terrorist who killed thousands in Jordan and hundreds in Lebonon and then in Israel, Clinton felt he deserved the Noble PEACE Prize. ”
Clinton had nothing to do with the Oslo peace accord. it was done in secrecy by the parties involved. clinton was used as a backdrop for the fluff. read some history books!
Clinton is not on the nobel prize committee and had aboslutely nothing to do with the choice that was made by them to give arafat and rabin together the prize which on the surface made sense for what they seemed to be doing at the time.
The hadnshake was a spontaneous moment, and rabin wrote about it afterwards. he hesitated because he realized what he was symbolically doing.
this is all silly since you are obviously someone who doesnt read much real current events or history and probably just listens to the radion nuts or the friend at kiddush who does and repeats it.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 01:29 PM Moishe Says:
To 24 (anonymous): Lying through my teeth, am I? You're an ignoramus, pure and simple. Netanyahu wasn't elected right after Oslo -- he was elected three years afterward, by which time Arafat and the PLO showed they were the same old terrorists they always had been. But from 1993-1996 Oslo was very popular in Israel, and until the suicide bombings began Rabin was riding very high in the polls. And to write, as you did, that Clinton gave Arafat the Nobel Prize may just be the most moronic comment anyone's ever made here -- and that's taking in a lot of territory.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 02:11 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Clinton had nothing to do with the Oslo peace accord. it was done in secrecy by the parties involved. clinton was used as a backdrop for the fluff. read some history books!
Clinton is not on the nobel prize committee and had aboslutely nothing to do with the choice that was made by them to give arafat and rabin together the prize which on the surface made sense for what they seemed to be doing at the time.
The hadnshake was a spontaneous moment, and rabin wrote about it afterwards. he hesitated because he realized what he was symbolically doing.
this is all silly since you are obviously someone who doesnt read much real current events or history and probably just listens to the radion nuts or the friend at kiddush who does and repeats it.
”
You seem to be someone who will believe anything politicians tell you, rather then reading the facts. You are right, I do not read history books (As in revised and he said she said history), I read the facts only and results only. You seem to apologize for things that made no sense at the time and are now deemed as a terrible mistake. Why would Israel need a backdrop? You are right they did things that maybe made sense on the surface, nothing more. It was a vary symbolic thing to give a hand to a notorious terrorist.
I'd also like to add that Ehud Barak clearly stated that he was pressured at camp david, he was held for three days without outside communication or advisers. Natanyahu also, when debating Sharon said that you cant compare what he gave under Clinton to what Sharon did to Arafat under Bush, as Clinton applied lots of pressure at Wye. The fact is that once Clinton left office so did Arafat, he was never welcome ever again, he was dealt with as what he was, a terrorist, confined to his mukata until his death without a peeps from Washington. What happened did Israel regain conscious that year. There were bus bombs all over all the time.
The truth is your most likely a liberal, who looks at what he or she said and not at what they did. You want to know the cause rather the effect. Clinton was wrong and his decision to grant the PLO government status was wrong and premature. He should have not supplied them with weapons and aid to the total 1.3 billion, which was used for terror, torture and unlawful killings even within his people, as everybody said at the time they will be used against Israel. He created an enemy state in Israel, something that never existed before and was not supported thereafter.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 03:27 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Mayber she will have some influance o Japan, to release the 4 Chariedy Bucherem. ”
You are a MORON
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Nov 21, 2008 at 03:25 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Some of you are either very young or have a short term memory.
PLO had nothing, nothing at all up untill Clinton. Israeli soldiers were patroling all of Israel and the PLO was nothing but a bunch of Hoodlooms with knives and rocks. They had no guns no uniforms and no territory where to fight from. The borders were controlled by all of Israel as well. Came the Clintons and created autonomous areas called area A, B and C. He gave them guns and they created a police force aka terrorist entity named Al Aksa and Hamas. They attacked day and night with their guns and bus bombs, maimed young mothers and children, and Clinton demanded give more and more just to show goodwill.
You were definitly not around if you can say otherwise. Arafat only move to Israel in 1994. Clinton also awarded Arafat with the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, before there was even a sign of peace. The PA was a result of the Oslo agreement. These are concrete facts. Just look into any encyclopedia or google and you'll find that everything I wrote is a fact.
Hillary Clinton was sitting on the same stage and receiving a simultaneous translation of Mrs. Arafat's speech where she accused Israel of poisoning the palastinians, she sat silent and then embrace and kissed her. Hillary's spokesman at the time said it's a "local issue" that miss Clinton wont comment on. This is a fact, now she claimes nothing until she writes in her memoir where she claimed she didn't understand the translation. You can believe her, I dont.
Noble Peace Price winner Arafat was created by Clinton, the whole PA was created by Clinton. Everything their weapons the territory and all that came after that, is Clintons credit and you say Clinton was good for Israel? Why? ”
Because, as you say they have very short memories and they are MORONS . Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it!
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Nov 21, 2008 at 03:21 PM Anonymous Says:
“ 1. she is very pro israel. more so than most other senators from either party
2. sharon and livni are more "pro israel" than any of us. they love their country regardless of political party ”
Sharon & Livini are the most self hating Jews we can encounter. And one has received his punishment and it won't be long before Hashem delivers it to the other.
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Nov 21, 2008 at 03:18 PM Anonymous Says:
“ this is great for obama, great the world, great for the us, great for israel
and a loss for new york ”
Such a loss, let her go back to Arkansas where she belongs. If you think she will be good for Israel you are making a grave mistake. Anyone who kisses Yessir UrAfart is bad for Israel and Jews.
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Nov 23, 2008 at 08:38 AM Anonymous Says:
“ To 24 (anonymous): Lying through my teeth, am I? You're an ignoramus, pure and simple. Netanyahu wasn't elected right after Oslo -- he was elected three years afterward, by which time Arafat and the PLO showed they were the same old terrorists they always had been. But from 1993-1996 Oslo was very popular in Israel, and until the suicide bombings began Rabin was riding very high in the polls. And to write, as you did, that Clinton gave Arafat the Nobel Prize may just be the most moronic comment anyone's ever made here -- and that's taking in a lot of territory. ”
Well of course I meant the election thereafter. BTW you still seem to buy into Clinton even tough it was clear, AS YOU SAY, that Oslo was a mistake by 1996. Most pressure was put on Israel in that time especially in the last year of Clinton when he so badly wanted to have this as his legacy. You still say he was good for Israel? Why would someone who even cares little have Israel deal with a liar terrorist who was using the aid Clinton gave him to attack Israel. Why would the US force Israel to recede from those areas defined in Oslo, when is was clear it was a bad mistake created by Clinton? Why would Arafat be such a welcoming guest at the Clintons when his hand had so much blood on his hand, Jewish, Jordanian and Lebanese. Why was he gone never to be seen again as soon as Clinton left office?
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Nov 23, 2008 at 08:46 AM Upbeat Says:
I think it is to premature to make assumptions like many that are being posted here. We need to sit back and watch the show as it unfolds. Wanna do something worth ur while? Daven for the best for Klal Yisroel. When I daven V'lamalshinim in SHmone Esrei it has taken new meaning for me with todays times, we really dont know who is bad or who is good for us.
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Nov 23, 2008 at 01:55 PM Anonymous Says:
“ To 24 (anonymous): Lying through my teeth, am I? You're an ignoramus, pure and simple. Netanyahu wasn't elected right after Oslo -- he was elected three years afterward, by which time Arafat and the PLO showed they were the same old terrorists they always had been. But from 1993-1996 Oslo was very popular in Israel, and until the suicide bombings began Rabin was riding very high in the polls. And to write, as you did, that Clinton gave Arafat the Nobel Prize may just be the most moronic comment anyone's ever made here -- and that's taking in a lot of territory. ”
Well of course the Clintons do not give the nobel peace prize, he instigates it. He was the hand behind it. Do you think he would have gotten anything if Clinton would have not called him a man of peace and legitimized by having him over at the white house so often.