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Jerusalem - Charedi Man Who Tampered With El Al Plane To Prevent Inappropriate In Flight Movie Arrested

Published on: February 25, 2016 03:21 PM
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FILE Ilustration - A man seen reading a magazine among ultra orthodox Jewish travelers aborad ElAl flight. Flash90FILE Ilustration - A man seen reading a magazine among ultra orthodox Jewish travelers aborad ElAl flight. Flash90

Jerusalem - A passenger flight from Poland to Israel was filled with heated exchanges between passengers and accusations of anti-Semitism, ending with the arrest of a Charedi man from Beit Shemesh who reportedly tampered with the aircraft’s in flight video screens in order to prevent passengers from viewing an inappropriate movie.

The 36 year old man was part of a group consisting of approximately three teachers and 15 teenage students who traveled on El Al from Warsaw to Tel Aviv yesterday.  The group had been scheduled to fly out of Warsaw on February 23rd but had missed their flight and had been re-ticketed for the Wednesday flight.

“The problems began from the moment they got on the plane,” said Nurit Eliash in an interview with Israel’s Ch. 2 News (http://goo.gl/bdQW16).

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Eliash was on board the Tel Aviv bound flight and said that members of the group were immediately unhappy with their assigned seats.

“They were scattered throughout the plane because they weren’t supposed to be on this flight,” said Eliash. “This one didn’t want to sit next to a woman. This one didn’t want to sit next to a girl. Some of them wanted to sit together.”

Passengers did what they could to accommodate those requests, according to Eliash, but eventually a flight attendant had to tell members of the Charedi group to sit in their assigned seats or the plane would not take off.

Further issues arose after television screens for the plane’s in flight entertainment system were lowered.  One of the teachers walked through the plane, pushing all of the screens back up, using toothpicks to prevent the screens from descending again.  Attempts by the flight crew to re-engage the system was only partially successful.

“A few didn’t come down because they tampered with them,” said Eliash.  “They stuck a toothpick into the mechanism.”

Heated verbal arguments broke out between irate passengers and the group, with another of the Charedi men angrily screaming, “G-d doesn’t want…this is immodest.”

Eliash contended that there was nothing wrong with the film being shown.

“It was just a regular movie,” said Eliash.  “It was a normal film.  There was nothing inappropriate like they said.”

While no physical conflicts broke out between passengers on the flight, one of the adults in the group told passengers, “We know that El Al hates Charedim.”  Eliash noted that while some of the adults in the group behaved like hooligans, the students were well behaved and seemed surprised by the behavior of their teachers.

Accusations of anti-Semitism flew at the end of the flight as one member of the group told the other passengers, “You are like the Nazis.”

Once the flight landed in Tel Aviv, the man who tampered with the video screens refused to leave the plane, saying that he wanted to see the actual damage to the aircraft’s in flight entertainment system.

“Finally the captain told him he was in no position to make any demands,” said Eliash.  “He told him to tell his story to the police.”

The Beit Shemesh resident was arrested by Israeli police after he disembarked from the plane.


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 Feb 25, 2016 at 03:47 PM ModernLakewoodGuy Says:

lunatics. what a waste of perfectly good tooth picks.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 03:54 PM Anonymous Says:

This INSANITY must stop. The hooligans that behave this way should be BARRED from any EL AL light in the future. Let them fly LOT or the German Airline and see how they are treated then!

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 04:07 PM Boochie Says:

It's irresponsible of the group to send a long such a crazy man as a shaparone

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 04:10 PM elyeh Says:

Anyone who does not want to watch should cover his eyes and ears. Lots of people wear headphones on flights to drown out sound, and lots of people wear eye covers to sleep. To hear anything of the movie would have to use earphones.

He is teaching people to despise Charedim for intolerant behavior. Tell me, is that a Chillul H'shem?

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 04:28 PM Ha-arah Says:

what was the name of the movie?

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 05:15 PM aaron Says:

Its so depressing that this kind of story isn't even surprising

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 05:19 PM rebmoshe Says:

I just hope they lock him away for a couple of months. This behavior must come to a STOP. if you can not live by the rules sit home or get your private jet.
what a shame making the chareidi world look so bad. Chilil hashem in the first degree. they probably came from some tzadiks tzion, all their tefilos goes to the sitra achreh because hashem is not interested in their davening.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 05:31 PM facts straight Says:

While I'm not condoning such behavior, the facts are el al hates chareidim. And unfortunately the German airline is more respectful and accommodating to the frum flyers then el-al by a landslide

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 05:40 PM The_Truth Says:

There is a lot more pritzus on any Israeli or Polish high street than in most movies.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 05:53 PM Normal Says:

These idiots thick they are saving souls, but really are making normal Jews hate Yiddishkeit.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 05:57 PM Anonymous Says:

One does not need to ch"v excuse immodesty to see that this behavior is wrong.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 06:13 PM Anonymous Says:

Its true they are wrong and holigans. t the same time ELAL should ensure that charedi beliefs are upheld for those that wish. They should designate charedi sections where there are no movies and men and women sit seperate. I don't think it would be a major cost and it can be something that the purchaser decideds when buying the ticket like kosher food. If need be charge a $50 fee for the charedi section.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 06:16 PM Tsvi Says:

El Al has no backbone, pertaining to this matter. Whereas they are very good, pertaining to keeping their planes safe from Muslim terrorists, they are horrible at dealing with the clientele involved in this fracas. Until El Al adopts a policy to have a seating area specifically assigned to the Hareidim (where there are no women, and were there are no movies shown), this nonsense is going to continue.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 06:20 PM Anonymous Says:

I am orthodox too. I don't watch the movies because I don't enjoy most of them; I prefer my own form of entertainment. If you don't wish to watch the film, get busy reading or wear eye covers and go to sleep. Making a chilul hashem is not a mitzvah and teaches the children chutzpa.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 06:24 PM IamYid Says:

Is this 1970s? All other airlines have long since solve the problem by installing individual devices in from of every seat. El Al wants to be like Sanders's Soviet Union: everybody watches the same film!

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 06:29 PM Yossel the meiser Says:

Is this story a kidush hashem or chilil hashem

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 06:40 PM ChareidiMan Says:

hopefull one day they will ban frum people from flying untill we learn ro be normal. what a chilul hashem! stop woreying about the internet and pay attention to "derech Eretz"

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 06:45 PM ayoyo Says:

they should have all been arrested and forbidden to fly any plane until they studied a course on civility and signed a paper to the effect that they will behave properly.Just imagine if such people had control of the govt.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 07:56 PM I never ever fly on El-Al Says:

I am over 60 and have traveled more then 155 Overseas trips. Never with El-Al.
I had 40 years ago many friends who did travel on El-Al same day and destination when I traveled on Sabina or KLM or British or TWA.
When we arrived, our satisfaction with the other airlines were always better.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 08:25 PM bubii Says:

Reply to #8  
facts straight Says:

While I'm not condoning such behavior, the facts are el al hates chareidim. And unfortunately the German airline is more respectful and accommodating to the frum flyers then el-al by a landslide

You are truly a shoite if el al hates hareidim go on another airline no one forced him to go on El Al di shoite vus di bist.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 08:27 PM BUBII Says:

Reply to #16  
Yossel the meiser Says:

Is this story a kidush hashem or chilil hashem

If you can't figure that out then you are one big chussid shoite.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 08:34 PM Anonymous Says:

What makes them think they are G-d's policemen?

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 08:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
facts straight Says:

While I'm not condoning such behavior, the facts are el al hates chareidim. And unfortunately the German airline is more respectful and accommodating to the frum flyers then el-al by a landslide

Are you kidding me? No airline besides El Al has to put up with this nonsense.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 08:49 PM Moose Says:

2 comments.
1) those who wrote "they are all" terrible, be arrested etc... Didn't read or care the article which clearly said only the few teachers were inappropriate and not the students.
2) the caption under the photo is blatenly instagative. A close look will notice that the chosid reading the mag is actually the husband of the non tznious lady. "Flash 90" is like the pro Palestinian press

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 08:53 PM ShatzMatz Says:

Reply to #12  
Anonymous Says:

Its true they are wrong and holigans. t the same time ELAL should ensure that charedi beliefs are upheld for those that wish. They should designate charedi sections where there are no movies and men and women sit seperate. I don't think it would be a major cost and it can be something that the purchaser decideds when buying the ticket like kosher food. If need be charge a $50 fee for the charedi section.

El Al does actually accomodate chareidei groups when they make prior arrangements. However, in this case, these shlemazels missed their flight so they had to be squeezed into another flight at the last minute. Then they complain that they were not accomodated.

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 09:16 PM PaulinSaudi Says:

Doesn't air travel suck enough already without having to deal with people like this?

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 09:35 PM Liepa Says:

I have one question for this 'tippish', were your immature and stupid actions worth the chillul Hashem you unnecessarily caused and ending up being arrested?

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 Feb 25, 2016 at 11:44 PM Beit shemesh resident Says:

I am so tired of reading about these lunatics who frequently disrupt our lives. A couple of days ago, we had to put up with a demonstration because there was a job fair! Shanda, Chareidim should actually WORK instead of schnorrering?

As for this moron: I hope he is fired. And the other teachers should be disciplined for not stopping him. I feel sorry for the students, who must have been mortified to be associated with such a poyeh.

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 Feb 26, 2016 at 12:06 AM mnmnmn Says:

One moment to all you hateful commentators.... you all take everything this FROY ELIASH said to the press? Did you hear both sides? Maybe she is just person with hate towards chareidim, (as a lot of you here)?? How about maybe she exaggerated or didn't say everything????

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 Feb 26, 2016 at 12:10 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
facts straight Says:

While I'm not condoning such behavior, the facts are el al hates chareidim. And unfortunately the German airline is more respectful and accommodating to the frum flyers then el-al by a landslide

And trust me, the films shown on Lufthansa are more risqué than those of ELAL and they would not accommodate them by not showing a movie.

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 Feb 26, 2016 at 04:46 AM BarryLS1 Says:

Reply to #8  
facts straight Says:

While I'm not condoning such behavior, the facts are el al hates chareidim. And unfortunately the German airline is more respectful and accommodating to the frum flyers then el-al by a landslide

That's a convenient excuse to justify bad behavior. I have flow El Al many times and haven't seen one instance of any Chareidi being discriminated against or any sign of hate.

What I have seen is Chareidim blocking the aisles and ignoring El Al staff, trying to do their jobs when they politely ask people to clear the isles or not to block passengers from going to the restroom. I also saw a women trapped in the restroom because people were davening , blocking the way, even though Gedolim said that it is not appropriate to do so. I saw men harassing women trying to force them to change seats.

The upshot of the whole issue is that the people in question caused their own problem by missing the plane they were actually booked on. They were upset with seating and a movie, they created the mess and should behave like mentchen and not behaimas.

In general, as to the issue of seating, people should plan in advance to avoid issues on the plane itself. Why a Frum travel agent doesn't accommodate and promote pairing people up is beyond me.

You take the German airline, so you can hear a German accent tell you, "you've reached your FINAL destination." I'll stick with El Al.

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 Feb 26, 2016 at 07:37 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
ayoyo Says:

they should have all been arrested and forbidden to fly any plane until they studied a course on civility and signed a paper to the effect that they will behave properly.Just imagine if such people had control of the govt.

There is no THEY here..just one insensitive person.
Please dont put us all into the mix.
Theres always a lunatic somewhere.
Please dont assign them to specific people. And that goes for everything!

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 Feb 26, 2016 at 07:43 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
bubii Says:

You are truly a shoite if el al hates hareidim go on another airline no one forced him to go on El Al di shoite vus di bist.

Bubii...you always speak as if you wete just released from a mental institution and forgot your meds!
Your indispicable language is worse than anything u ever accuse anyone of. You are an abomination to our society and to jews the world over...
Your posts represent the lowest of the low continuously.
Please stay off these sites and take some lessons in civility and prejudice.

34

 Feb 26, 2016 at 07:44 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #22  
Anonymous Says:

What makes them think they are G-d's policemen?

Them?
You mean he.

35

 Feb 26, 2016 at 07:52 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
Moose Says:

2 comments.
1) those who wrote "they are all" terrible, be arrested etc... Didn't read or care the article which clearly said only the few teachers were inappropriate and not the students.
2) the caption under the photo is blatenly instagative. A close look will notice that the chosid reading the mag is actually the husband of the non tznious lady. "Flash 90" is like the pro Palestinian press

With all due respect, it says nowhere that a chosid is reading the magazine...it says A man reading...
What is instigating on here is the fact that it seems like he purposely is reading such a magazine amongst chassidim...look at how he is holding the magazine. Open wide. For all to see...why not fold it in half, put on ur lap...etc... that to me is instigating.

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 Feb 26, 2016 at 10:02 AM Yossi Says:

Reply to #19  
I never ever fly on El-Al Says:

I am over 60 and have traveled more then 155 Overseas trips. Never with El-Al.
I had 40 years ago many friends who did travel on El-Al same day and destination when I traveled on Sabina or KLM or British or TWA.
When we arrived, our satisfaction with the other airlines were always better.

I AM SURPRISED that you are over 60 and still on a blog. Usually people in your age sit in Miami Beach learning all day or busy working for their kids sitting in kolel.

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 Feb 26, 2016 at 10:25 AM bubii Says:

Reply to #35  
Anonymous Says:

With all due respect, it says nowhere that a chosid is reading the magazine...it says A man reading...
What is instigating on here is the fact that it seems like he purposely is reading such a magazine amongst chassidim...look at how he is holding the magazine. Open wide. For all to see...why not fold it in half, put on ur lap...etc... that to me is instigating.

If reading the magazine the way he does irks you then you need a mental evaluation,you are truly an imbacile.

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 Feb 26, 2016 at 10:47 AM puppydogs Says:

Netueri Karta strike again.

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 Feb 26, 2016 at 02:28 PM A Says:

I'm encouraged by the fact that the students behaved well. Maybe there is some hope for that generation.

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 Feb 26, 2016 at 03:57 PM Nachum Says:

To #36-Yossi-Your idiotic and insensitive remark is typical of the younger generation; they seem to look down on senior citizens, or treat them in a very condescending manner. In Japan, and other countries, seniors are treated with reverence. However, in the USA, and even in Eretz Yisrael, seniors, especially Yidden seniors, are not always treated very nicely by other Yidden, including some frum Yidden.

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