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Baltimore Senator Jim Brochin hands Rabbi Nochum Rosenberg award for The Awareness Center
Presenting the 2008 award was Maryalnd's Senator, James Brochin and Vicki Polin, Founder/Director of The Awareness Center, Inc.
In an exclusive interview with VIN News before this award was given to Mr. Rosneberg, Maryland State Sen. James Brochin, an outspoken lawmaker on sexual abuse issues, said, "I don't know much about Rabbi Rosenberg, but the issues that he has raised should definitely be receiving of more support in the Orthodox community.
At the same time I'd like to send a wake-up call for the Baltimore Jewish Council and the Orthodox community to please support my efforts to pass the statute of limitation extension law. I am quite disappointed that the community of Baltimore, who know full well they have abuse issues, did not to come out and help me on sex abuse issues."
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Dec 02, 2008 at 04:17 PM Hatzolah guy Says:
I know him.. this mark on his head stating that someone wanted to shoot him. Is a lie he made it himself.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 04:42 PM Anonymous Says:
What a phsyco.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 04:41 PM Anonymous Says:
Tell the senator if he stops backing Rosenberg we will help him!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 04:46 PM Anonymous Says:
ok. so he was not shot. but he got hurt. he could have had a stone thrown at him. stick to the painful issues. u can laugh till it hits home..
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Dec 02, 2008 at 04:52 PM Anonymous Says:
till baltimore does he need to travel to got this award? why cant he go to a local senator to get this??... What should i tell him, frame it & place it in the center of your living room & claim victory!!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 04:50 PM Anonymous Says:
“ ok. so he was not shot. but he got hurt. he could have had a stone thrown at him. stick to the painful issues. u can laugh till it hits home.. ”
NO!! no one touched him, nobody threw any stones at him, nobody even yelled at him, no one is looking at his direction. the people in hids neighborhood know him very well, everybody is just ignoring him.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 05:22 PM Anonymous Says:
Face it, he did a heck of a job bringing this issue front and center. Way to go Reb Nuchem! Mazel Tov.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 05:15 PM Anonymous Says:
Who is Nuchem Rosenberg? Some information please?!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 05:03 PM Russia'she Kotchme Says:
Ohmm...where are the awards that he got for building MIKVAH's can i see one of them...or it doesnt excists??
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Dec 02, 2008 at 05:03 PM Anonymous Says:
what an attention seeker.. traveling such a distance for a bit of attention he doesn't get at home..
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Dec 02, 2008 at 04:56 PM Anonymous Says:
can someone please post this state senators tel # please asap
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Dec 02, 2008 at 05:37 PM reality Says:
Its about time some one recognized what this tzadik sacrificed for the sake of klal yisroel maybe he did it in a weird way but he meant it well
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Dec 02, 2008 at 05:35 PM Anonymous Says:
With all the loshon hora out there, I guess we're over the Mumbai tragedies....
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Dec 02, 2008 at 04:54 PM Anonymous Says:
how can it be he has a mark for over 2 weeks n it still looks exact the same?
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Dec 02, 2008 at 06:01 PM Anonymous Says:
“ how can it be he has a mark for over 2 weeks n it still looks exact the same? ”
magic marker
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Dec 02, 2008 at 05:59 PM a yid Says:
Some comments are realy stupid and so are the people writeing them. U people can't face the fact that in our community no one wants to deal with the issues that R'Nuchem raised u are a bunch of fools screaming because he did what he did and good came out of it. Maby u cold disagree of the way he did it. But that's the only that helped get some awarness. So stop screaming my freinds u just show who u are. Till the issue won't touch your family yull laugh about it but atleast its a still a joke for u
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Dec 02, 2008 at 05:43 PM Anonymous Says:
“ NO!! no one touched him, nobody threw any stones at him, nobody even yelled at him, no one is looking at his direction. the people in hids neighborhood know him very well, everybody is just ignoring him. ”
It's impossible to prove a "negative".
If you say you had seen him being hit, then you may be saying the truth or it may be lie.
But if you say that you know for sure that something "DID NOT HAPPEN" then you are for sure a Lier.
"Loy Rainu Eina Raya" it's physically imposable for you to know what you claim, you know that "it did not happen", so you are a lier, for sure, 100%.
Now that we know 100% for sure that you are a lier, the question is what is your MOTIVATION to perpetrate this lie?
Perhaps, you have a good reason to lie, especially if you or one of your friends was perhaps the shooter or attacker of Rosenberg or perhaps you or your friends is one of the pedophiles whom Rosenberg is a accusing?
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Dec 02, 2008 at 05:43 PM Anonymous Says:
“ can someone please post this state senators tel # please asap
”
do you want to tell the seneter thats it all lies?? haha
dony wait till you feel molestation first hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 06:37 PM hmmmm Says:
what's that thing on his head? what was left of his shtreimel?
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Dec 02, 2008 at 07:10 PM 5cents Says:
What an outfit he chose for this special occasion!!!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 06:53 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Some comments are realy stupid and so are the people writeing them. U people can't face the fact that in our community no one wants to deal with the issues that R'Nuchem raised u are a bunch of fools screaming because he did what he did and good came out of it. Maby u cold disagree of the way he did it. But that's the only that helped get some awarness. So stop screaming my freinds u just show who u are. Till the issue won't touch your family yull laugh about it but atleast its a still a joke for u ”
He did not bring any attention on no topic!! don't kid yourself! you probably don't know him so you make a fool out of yourself with your statement.
This man suffers of a severe case of "ADD" (attention deficiency disorder), He opened a hotline for ATTENTION! he made all kids of klal yisroel mamzeirim because NO MIKVA IS KOSHER (besides the 3 mikvas he designed, in Madrid morocco and Malaysia..).
he didn't get enough attention, so he started bashing out on all gedolei yisroel with the lowest language and all kinds of insults! when it still didn't satisfy his crave for attention, he started talking nivul peh, including some molestation issues also. that's it! it's a severe case of ADD.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 07:32 PM Anonymous Says:
“ He did not bring any attention on no topic!! don't kid yourself! you probably don't know him so you make a fool out of yourself with your statement.
This man suffers of a severe case of "ADD" (attention deficiency disorder), He opened a hotline for ATTENTION! he made all kids of klal yisroel mamzeirim because NO MIKVA IS KOSHER (besides the 3 mikvas he designed, in Madrid morocco and Malaysia..).
he didn't get enough attention, so he started bashing out on all gedolei yisroel with the lowest language and all kinds of insults! when it still didn't satisfy his crave for attention, he started talking nivul peh, including some molestation issues also. that's it! it's a severe case of ADD. ”
Excuse me, but you happen to have NO knowledge of what ADD is. This is quite offensive, especially to one who might have said condition. What basis do you have to make medical judgments?
“ He did not bring any attention on no topic!! don't kid yourself! you probably don't know him so you make a fool out of yourself with your statement." On the contrary, a good number of people wouldn't have thought much about the issue if not for him. de facto, that is bringing attention to it, even though SOME people were aware of the issues.
Molestation happens. I know people it has happened to. To bash this man because of whatever motivation you have is wrong and misleading. Who would make a hotline to listen to these kids voluntarily if it's for personal gain? There are a LOT less stressful methods that merit a LOT less bad blood. I don' t think it's made up.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 07:59 PM Anonymous Says:
“ It's impossible to prove a "negative".
If you say you had seen him being hit, then you may be saying the truth or it may be lie.
But if you say that you know for sure that something "DID NOT HAPPEN" then you are for sure a Lier.
"Loy Rainu Eina Raya" it's physically imposable for you to know what you claim, you know that "it did not happen", so you are a lier, for sure, 100%.
Now that we know 100% for sure that you are a lier, the question is what is your MOTIVATION to perpetrate this lie?
Perhaps, you have a good reason to lie, especially if you or one of your friends was perhaps the shooter or attacker of Rosenberg or perhaps you or your friends is one of the pedophiles whom Rosenberg is a accusing? ”
I agree with you 100%.
To the commentors who try to invalidate R' Nuchem because his manner is considered eccentric in Williamsburgh - I quote the Kotzker- "the middle of the road is for the horses" To accomplish in this world you have to be "different" or by way of analogy "off the side of the road"
The first Rema in the Shulchan Aruch states "pay no heed to the scoffers" (free translation). The Lubavitcher Rebbe asks why the Rema chose this message as his first commentary to the Shulchan Aruch & furthermore there is seemingly no relevance to the Rema's statement to the first Sif in Shulchan Aruch which is unusual.
The Rebbe answers very profoundly. "the Rema chose this to be the first halacha because if you can't keep this halacha you will not be able to keep the rest of shulchan aruch.
My message to R' Nuchem is "do not pay heed to the scoffers" you are bringing awareness & saving lives.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 07:26 PM Anonymous Says:
Whether he was shot or not the issue is still child molestation. Here in Baltimore the rabanut still covers for these sick animals. When are we going to stop worrying about shiduchim and start worrying about our children?
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Dec 02, 2008 at 07:25 PM Anonymous Says:
The man is a Tzadik and should be treated as so, all you big talkers just wait till one day one of your children get mollested by someone in yeshiva or in their school and then you will look back and cry , you will cry bc when you had someone who you could support in the fight you jumped on the bandwagon with everyone else and you laughed and jeered. Just wait my freinds when someone grabs your kid and ties his payos to the bedpost. We will see whos making the jokes then
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Dec 02, 2008 at 07:15 PM real hatzolah guy Says:
“ I know him.. this mark on his head stating that someone wanted to shoot him. Is a lie he made it himself. ”
You low life stop draging this orgenization into this mud... Your not worthy to even go next to a wannabe member...
Shame on you!!!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 07:10 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I know him.. this mark on his head stating that someone wanted to shoot him. Is a lie he made it himself. ”
with a red magic marker?
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Dec 02, 2008 at 08:09 PM saywhateveryouwant Says:
way to go!. thas awesome!.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 08:53 PM Anonymous Says:
“ It's impossible to prove a "negative".
If you say you had seen him being hit, then you may be saying the truth or it may be lie.
But if you say that you know for sure that something "DID NOT HAPPEN" then you are for sure a Lier.
"Loy Rainu Eina Raya" it's physically imposable for you to know what you claim, you know that "it did not happen", so you are a lier, for sure, 100%.
Now that we know 100% for sure that you are a lier, the question is what is your MOTIVATION to perpetrate this lie?
Perhaps, you have a good reason to lie, especially if you or one of your friends was perhaps the shooter or attacker of Rosenberg or perhaps you or your friends is one of the pedophiles whom Rosenberg is a accusing? ”
I have no idea what you saying-hope you do
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Dec 02, 2008 at 08:52 PM SHOCKED YIDENE Says:
“ Whether he was shot or not the issue is still child molestation. Here in Baltimore the rabanut still covers for these sick animals. When are we going to stop worrying about shiduchim and start worrying about our children? ”
let me tell u all smthing! the problem with molestation is not only in baltimore but in the tri state area too! i know personally of a child molester living in bp who touches kids inappropriately! the parents were warned numerous times but chose to be quiet abt it! why are they waiting until its too late? well if something happens to their child it will be partially their fault for not stopping it in the early stages! these pple should be tied to their bedposts and everyone should be told who he is and where he lives!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 08:43 PM Anonymous Says:
“ what an attention seeker.. traveling such a distance for a bit of attention he doesn't get at home.. ”
your a REAL moron.
He went to baltimore because that is where the *awareness center* headquaters are located.
Why dont you show us what awards you have gotten through out yourlife
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Dec 02, 2008 at 08:24 PM abi gezunt Says:
atleast he gets some type of reward .after all he raised some valid issues. btw he looks like an indian with that red mark on his forhead!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 08:13 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I know him.. this mark on his head stating that someone wanted to shoot him. Is a lie he made it himself. ”
Maybe you are more worried that he knows who you are, not that you know who he is.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:08 PM Chaim Says:
I wish Rabbi Nachum and everyone else attempting to save the lives of innocent victims of molestation the best of luck and my sincerest congratulations. The Awareness Center is a true establishment of chessed. Every child spared the atrocities that we have covered up in the past is another victory of these brave champions of justice. These heroes risk everything to defend those that have no defense of their own.
I wish every advocate for the safety of Jewish children success and safety. Many people support you, despite the nasty comments you may see or hear. YOU are the chosen people. Your actions are the truest examples of a Kiddush Hashem. May you be Zocheh to see the fruit of your labors within the season of your toil.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:28 PM Anonymous Says:
Why thank the people in Baltimore for the award? Thank Kolko because if not for Kolko Mr. Rosenberg would not have this big award hanging on one of his walls!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:19 PM Sadguy Says:
Its just sad that ppl take messages from any crazy on the street. Have one talk with this maniac and you all will realize this man suffers from severe psychological conditions!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:56 PM dosomething Says:
“ Its just sad that ppl take messages from any crazy on the street. Have one talk with this maniac and you all will realize this man suffers from severe psychological conditions! ”
trust me if you had to listen to half the stories he had you would also have problems.the point is someone had to do something about the severe abomination that is out there and he DID.So to all those people that criticize others who are productive and actually care about Jewish lives sit yourself down and ask yourself what have YOU done lately?I bet upstairs there are no complaints
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:53 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Some comments are realy stupid and so are the people writeing them. U people can't face the fact that in our community no one wants to deal with the issues that R'Nuchem raised u are a bunch of fools screaming because he did what he did and good came out of it. Maby u cold disagree of the way he did it. But that's the only that helped get some awarness. So stop screaming my freinds u just show who u are. Till the issue won't touch your family yull laugh about it but atleast its a still a joke for u ”
Just to let you know, with all due of respect, by me it hit home on one of my children, I still dont believe in the way he dealt with it, yes, our rabbonim have a problem a bit with dealing with this issue but at the same time their are out there a few very serious rabbonim which would stretch & help with it, they would probably support him if he would bring them the information but they would deal with a bit different, I am saying something that I lived with!, I have a son who was targeted by one of these individuals, I went to certain rabbonim, they were very helpful, after all lets not forget TORAH WILL NEVER BE DISMISSED !
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Dec 02, 2008 at 10:38 PM dosomething Says:
“ Just to let you know, with all due of respect, by me it hit home on one of my children, I still dont believe in the way he dealt with it, yes, our rabbonim have a problem a bit with dealing with this issue but at the same time their are out there a few very serious rabbonim which would stretch & help with it, they would probably support him if he would bring them the information but they would deal with a bit different, I am saying something that I lived with!, I have a son who was targeted by one of these individuals, I went to certain rabbonim, they were very helpful, after all lets not forget TORAH WILL NEVER BE DISMISSED ! ”
Its very brave that you spoke out and all the better that you got the result you hoped for.But i know someone who was damaged and the parents went to the rabbonim but they hushed it under the carpet and said"we musnt do anything or he wont be able to get a shidduch".So for those "rabbonim"the message is obviously not clear enough that its a issue that will not go away just because people are scared that the public will find out such things go on.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:01 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Excuse me, but you happen to have NO knowledge of what ADD is. This is quite offensive, especially to one who might have said condition. What basis do you have to make medical judgments?
“ He did not bring any attention on no topic!! don't kid yourself! you probably don't know him so you make a fool out of yourself with your statement." On the contrary, a good number of people wouldn't have thought much about the issue if not for him. de facto, that is bringing attention to it, even though SOME people were aware of the issues.
Molestation happens. I know people it has happened to. To bash this man because of whatever motivation you have is wrong and misleading. Who would make a hotline to listen to these kids voluntarily if it's for personal gain? There are a LOT less stressful methods that merit a LOT less bad blood. I don' t think it's made up.
”
Apparently #23 was cynical, and used the ADD to raise a point with it. this man has no issue with molestation, he has an issue of attention and attention seeking of the most weird natures day after day. all those defending him have bo idea whom they're talking about.
check out his history before you all open your mouths.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:09 PM WORRIED Says:
WHY ARE PEOPLE TALKING AGAINST REB NUCHUM
IF THEY DONT EVEN KNOW HIM
JUST BECAUSE YOU WERN'T ABUSED
DOES IT MEAN WE HAVE TO HIDE IT UNDER THE TABLR WHEN OTHERS GET ABUSED?
WHERE IS ACHRAYUS FOR KLALL YISREOL
WHERE IS AHAVAS YISREOL?
WAKE UP NOW EVERYONE
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:58 PM Anonymous Says:
everyone plz gaurd your tongue we don't need more korbanus like mombai. it happens from sinus chinum .think be4 u post a comment, is it loshon horah?
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:54 PM shaking my head in disgust Says:
“ The man is a Tzadik and should be treated as so, all you big talkers just wait till one day one of your children get mollested by someone in yeshiva or in their school and then you will look back and cry , you will cry bc when you had someone who you could support in the fight you jumped on the bandwagon with everyone else and you laughed and jeered. Just wait my freinds when someone grabs your kid and ties his payos to the bedpost. We will see whos making the jokes then ”
Thank you. You said exactly what what on my mind.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:47 PM Anonymous Says:
Nachum deserve it he is a very special yid.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:16 PM Anonymous Says:
At the same time molestation is an important issue and has to be addressed properly.
but at the same time just take in mind that this man has no problem with molestation, he simply loves to make noise and attract peoples attention.
the same reason why he acts as if he was shot, he keeps on doing all kinds of funny and silly things just for attention.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 12:43 AM Anonymous Says:
“ He did not bring any attention on no topic!! don't kid yourself! you probably don't know him so you make a fool out of yourself with your statement.
This man suffers of a severe case of "ADD" (attention deficiency disorder), He opened a hotline for ATTENTION! he made all kids of klal yisroel mamzeirim because NO MIKVA IS KOSHER (besides the 3 mikvas he designed, in Madrid morocco and Malaysia..).
he didn't get enough attention, so he started bashing out on all gedolei yisroel with the lowest language and all kinds of insults! when it still didn't satisfy his crave for attention, he started talking nivul peh, including some molestation issues also. that's it! it's a severe case of ADD. ”
That means ADD? oh..
Of course he is an attention seeker, because you want everyone should shut up about the things that are going on? Its too late. The baloon busted already.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:59 PM Anonymous Says:
everyone plz gaurd your tongue we don't need more korbanus like mombai. it happens from sinus chinum .think be4 u post a comment, is it loshon horah?
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Dec 03, 2008 at 06:12 AM UBET Says:
Mr Rosenberg is a big rachmuness. He tried to help YOUR community and all he gets is "badmouthing him" Let's see someone do what he does...... He is taking all the slack for YOU YIDDEN!!!! Yes, we need someone like him to bring awareness. Why can't you unserstand that??? Look at Dov Hikind.... He picked up where Mt Rosenberg left off. He too is getting bombarded. Farvoos?????
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Dec 03, 2008 at 03:09 AM Anonymous Says:
Here is a well known factual episode that ocurred in ger in boro park and came to its bitter conclusion roughly almost 3 years ago:
A parent of a rabbi-molested child went to a mechanech involved in the gerrer mosdos to ask his opinion about what to do with his son's accusation. The mechanech scoffed at the parent and suggested that the child is a sicko for fabricating such lies about a well known mashgiach. Only a few years later did the very same mechanech aproach the child's father in tears asking for mechila. G-d had stepped in to avenge the improper response of the mechanech............the mechanech's own grandson was molested BY THE VERY SAME MASHGIACH. Be very carefull when you attack those who have stood up against all odds to defend the voiceless victims and the innocent children whose parents and rabbonim refuse to protect from such heinous crimes.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 02:51 AM Anonymous Says:
In Baltimore, the mashgiach of Ner Yisroel as well as the principal of Sheris Hapleita School have been accused of molesting. The facts are on the Awareness Center's website. NO PUBLIC INVESTIGATION was done. The police tried to do one, but the rabbis told everyone not to cooperate with them. Therefore, Baltimore continues to be an Eer Hanidachas when it comes to child molestation Karbanos. Rav Ruderman Z"TL, is turning over in his Kever, R"L.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 01:36 AM Anonymous Says:
So sad that many of you think that he's doing this simply for attention. You are the same people who are carpet sweepers. Abuse in our community? Na, let's sweep it under the rug. Or let's let the Rabbonim deal with it. The Rabbonim know best. But what have any of the Rabbonim done? Look at Satmar, which has personally threatened his life.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 01:05 AM Anonymous Says:
“ let me tell u all smthing! the problem with molestation is not only in baltimore but in the tri state area too! i know personally of a child molester living in bp who touches kids inappropriately! the parents were warned numerous times but chose to be quiet abt it! why are they waiting until its too late? well if something happens to their child it will be partially their fault for not stopping it in the early stages! these pple should be tied to their bedposts and everyone should be told who he is and where he lives! ”
if u say that you know this molester personally and u personally know that he touches kids then why on gods earth are you blaming parents for not believing u. go to the police and its over . finished .
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Dec 03, 2008 at 12:58 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Just to let you know, with all due of respect, by me it hit home on one of my children, I still dont believe in the way he dealt with it, yes, our rabbonim have a problem a bit with dealing with this issue but at the same time their are out there a few very serious rabbonim which would stretch & help with it, they would probably support him if he would bring them the information but they would deal with a bit different, I am saying something that I lived with!, I have a son who was targeted by one of these individuals, I went to certain rabbonim, they were very helpful, after all lets not forget TORAH WILL NEVER BE DISMISSED ! ”
I think you were lucky that you found rabbonim to support you right away. Dont take it for granted. I was told to shut up..
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Dec 03, 2008 at 07:20 AM Anonymous Says:
“ what an attention seeker.. traveling such a distance for a bit of attention he doesn't get at home.. ”
Baltimore is not so far.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 08:39 AM advocate Says:
What's the difference between what happens in Williamsburg and Baltimore? Nothing. It's the same story in every from community. Children get molested and the rabbonim do what they can to cover up the crimes -- they shame and blame the victims and honor those who offend.
The only way this will stop is by people like rav rosenberg, vicki polin and rav blau.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 10:48 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Just to let you know, with all due of respect, by me it hit home on one of my children, I still dont believe in the way he dealt with it, yes, our rabbonim have a problem a bit with dealing with this issue but at the same time their are out there a few very serious rabbonim which would stretch & help with it, they would probably support him if he would bring them the information but they would deal with a bit different, I am saying something that I lived with!, I have a son who was targeted by one of these individuals, I went to certain rabbonim, they were very helpful, after all lets not forget TORAH WILL NEVER BE DISMISSED ! ”
I would love to know which Rabonim you say were helpful... They need our FULL support!!!!
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Dec 03, 2008 at 11:18 AM Loshon Horah! Says:
Please everyone! stop this Loshon Horah on Rabbi Rosenberg! Didn't we all make a vow to become better people after this weeks attack?
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Dec 03, 2008 at 11:24 AM Anonymous Says:
I was personally involved in a turmoil around a molestation accusation in a heimishe moisad in Brooklyn, I had the "honor" to confront the moisad with the suspicions, I had a meeting with a few respected board members and the menahel, they took it very serious, and they wanted to fire that teacher immediately. they asked a rav (affiliated with that moisad), and the rav said that you're not allowed to kill a person because of a 6 year old's accusation, on the other hand, this subject is too sensitive to take a risk with the kids in his class.
the rav ordered them not to let in the kids in class before there's a surveillance camera installed in the class room and in the teachers room. That very night the cameras were installed!
The end of the investigation, after a confession of the accuser, and after monitoring the cameras for over a year, it turned out to be a hoax. but thats not the point, the point is that most mosdos do take these issues very very serious, and don't shove nothing under the carpet, and don't cover on anything (there may be some very few exceptions).
and certainly, this N.R. is no solution, he has a bad history in whichever subject he was involved he has only done the opposite, he's negative, with no derech and no goal, just a simple noise maker, a bad mouth, always does the wrong things in the wrong places.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 05:58 PM Anonymous Says:
People like this man subject themselves to contempt because they come out and accuse people of doing wrong. If there was no wrong doing going on then why are people like this coming out with a passion? Maybe it's nothing to worry about but frankly my awareness is piqued because of guys like him. And if he is doing nothing wrong, why the death threat and all the hatred. I say don't shoot the messenger, deal with the problem and be aware of it. The predetors are out there. You should have your antenas up so we don't get burned. For the sake of the children.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 05:52 PM Secular Danny Says:
“ NO!! no one touched him, nobody threw any stones at him, nobody even yelled at him, no one is looking at his direction. the people in hids neighborhood know him very well, everybody is just ignoring him. ”
see in the outside world, we ignore the neighborhood pervs and dont look in their direction. nobody seems to mind going to shul with the pervs but make you sure you hurl stones at a rabbi trying to help victims those pervs abuse.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 06:45 PM Anonymous Says:
“ People like this man subject themselves to contempt because they come out and accuse people of doing wrong. If there was no wrong doing going on then why are people like this coming out with a passion? Maybe it's nothing to worry about but frankly my awareness is piqued because of guys like him. And if he is doing nothing wrong, why the death threat and all the hatred. I say don't shoot the messenger, deal with the problem and be aware of it. The predetors are out there. You should have your antenas up so we don't get burned. For the sake of the children. ”
Again.the issue is not molestation, the issue is not predators. the issue is this guy, he is no messenger, no one says shoot him, no one is interested in hurting him. he is a plain attention seeker, talking blah blah on all kinds of shtusim, he also happened to "bump in " in the subject of molestation, and no one has a problem with that, as they don't have with all other angels working on fighting molestation for years! he has a problem thats called "ATTENTION", and he will do anything to get that, bash out on all gedolei hador, eat ice cream pops on tha street, go with a russian turban on his head, claim that all mikvaos are posul... and so on..
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Feb 16, 2009 at 10:04 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The man is a Tzadik and should be treated as so, all you big talkers just wait till one day one of your children get mollested by someone in yeshiva or in their school and then you will look back and cry , you will cry bc when you had someone who you could support in the fight you jumped on the bandwagon with everyone else and you laughed and jeered. Just wait my freinds when someone grabs your kid and ties his payos to the bedpost. We will see whos making the jokes then ”
The question is: Will you even know when it happens to your child. I highly doubt it. It can go on right under your nose and you will most likely deny and ignore it. Then, when the child acts out, you'll blame the child.... Rarely will the child get the support he needs, yet the perpetrators generally have the highest chance of getting away with anything, with their crime and with bashing people who bring it awareness, in the same way that they know how to manipulate their victims....
How long will this cycle keep going on????