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An IDF officer was stationed before each flag-draped coffin with the name of the victim. Attending the ceremony were ministers Yaakov Edery and Eli Yishai, accompanied by the Admor from Gur and Vishnitz.
The Levay's are expected to be held later in the day. Tens of thousands are expected to attend to pay their last respect, VIN News will post details shortly.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 07:26 PM Babishka Says:
Hamakom yenakom domom
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Dec 01, 2008 at 07:20 PM Anonymous Says:
toldos avrum yitzcok rebbe was there?
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Dec 01, 2008 at 07:17 PM Anonymous Says:
Somber Ceremony? How about some revenge? When will we finally teach these SUBHUMAN CREATURES a lesson and bomb their terrorist holdouts into oblivion??
And i'm not a right wing nut, but when will these people be taught a lesson that would make them think twice before causing so much pain with their barbaric subhuman acts of violence????
And i'm well aware that these creatures are suicidal maniacs. But if they would know that we would revenge each and every terrorist attack upon their terrorist friends by making them suffer the same tortures that these sub humans inflict upon their innocent victims, than maybe just maybe they WILL think twice.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 07:12 PM Oy Gevald Says:
Al eleh ani bochiyah. Eini, eini, yordoh mayim.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 07:08 PM Anonymous Says:
HY"D!!! lets all unite at this time. From Chabad to Satmar and everyone in the middle lets unite as one with one heart for each other. The time has come for משיח lets show respect to one another regardless to the way they serve Hashem. The bottom line is they serve Hashem.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 07:06 PM Big Masmid Says:
An IDF officer was stationed before each flag-draped coffin with the name of the victim. Could some one please explain, what benefit will the Neshomos of the victims have from an IDF ceremony.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 07:47 PM Anonymous Says:
“
Somber Ceremony? How about some revenge? When will we finally teach these SUBHUMAN CREATURES a lesson and bomb their terrorist holdouts into oblivion??
And i'm not a right wing nut, but when will these people be taught a lesson that would make them think twice before causing so much pain with their barbaric subhuman acts of violence????
And i'm well aware that these creatures are suicidal maniacs. But if they would know that we would revenge each and every terrorist attack upon their terrorist friends by making them suffer the same tortures that these sub humans inflict upon their innocent victims, than maybe just maybe they WILL think twice.
”
I suggest you take a plane to Pakistan and hunt them down yourself and due what they did, if you are so adamant on revenge. If you are not willing to do it, stop being such a big talker
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Dec 01, 2008 at 07:45 PM Avrohom Says:
The tragic event in India brought about a great achdus bettween all yidden. To continue in this special spirit of achdus, I am starting a campaign to promote achdus and ahavas yisroel thru ads in the major jewish weekly newspapers. This will be done leeluy Nishmas the Kedoshim killed in India.
The ads will feature a Maamar Chazal on the importance of achdus, Shalom and Ahavas Yisroel. Please help sponsor a ad. It could be a company sponsorship so your company will be mentioned as the sponsor. I can not do this without your help.
To sponsor a ad, or suggest a maamar chazal, you may email me at achdusnow@gmail.com or call 718 954 2210.
Thank You
Avrohom Rotban
Staten Island
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Dec 01, 2008 at 07:44 PM Anonymous Says:
“
Somber Ceremony? How about some revenge? When will we finally teach these SUBHUMAN CREATURES a lesson and bomb their terrorist holdouts into oblivion??
And i'm not a right wing nut, but when will these people be taught a lesson that would make them think twice before causing so much pain with their barbaric subhuman acts of violence????
And i'm well aware that these creatures are suicidal maniacs. But if they would know that we would revenge each and every terrorist attack upon their terrorist friends by making them suffer the same tortures that these sub humans inflict upon their innocent victims, than maybe just maybe they WILL think twice.
”
Hashem is the one that avenges not us human. You can see how far it got Israel when they avenge the blood of innocents , it causes more bloodshed. The one and only king of all kings has his cheshbonos and none of us can understand them. He will award justice to these animals and their families in due course.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:01 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I suggest you take a plane to Pakistan and hunt them down yourself and due what they did, if you are so adamant on revenge. If you are not willing to do it, stop being such a big talker ”
dont judge someone in a time of pain!!!!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:00 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The tragic event in India brought about a great achdus bettween all yidden. To continue in this special spirit of achdus, I am starting a campaign to promote achdus and ahavas yisroel thru ads in the major jewish weekly newspapers. This will be done leeluy Nishmas the Kedoshim killed in India.
The ads will feature a Maamar Chazal on the importance of achdus, Shalom and Ahavas Yisroel. Please help sponsor a ad. It could be a company sponsorship so your company will be mentioned as the sponsor. I can not do this without your help.
To sponsor a ad, or suggest a maamar chazal, you may email me at achdusnow@gmail.com or call 718 954 2210.
Thank You
Avrohom Rotban
Staten Island ”
hatzlacha rabba
just the fact that you thought to do this is a wonderful thing.
I hope we will all continue to be b'achdus -
I truly believe this is what Hakodosh Baruch Hu wants from us!!!!!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 07:51 PM ruach hakoidesh Says:
They are already watching down on us from gan eden. No question about it!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:07 PM Anonymous Says:
Why do they insist on being mevazeh the meis with an israeli flag when it was specifically asked it not be put there? and we complain about mormons baptizing dead yidden!!!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:26 PM Anonymous Says:
“
Somber Ceremony? How about some revenge? When will we finally teach these SUBHUMAN CREATURES a lesson and bomb their terrorist holdouts into oblivion??
And i'm not a right wing nut, but when will these people be taught a lesson that would make them think twice before causing so much pain with their barbaric subhuman acts of violence????
And i'm well aware that these creatures are suicidal maniacs. But if they would know that we would revenge each and every terrorist attack upon their terrorist friends by making them suffer the same tortures that these sub humans inflict upon their innocent victims, than maybe just maybe they WILL think twice.
”
We must take revenge. However, as Jews, we take Jewish revenge.We do not use violence. We must do more mitzvos and be mekarev someone else who doesnt know as much about Torah as you. The terrorists were out to destroy yidishkeit, and by taking Jewish revenge, we are destroying them.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:25 PM Avi Says:
“ Why do they insist on being mevazeh the meis with an israeli flag when it was specifically asked it not be put there? and we complain about mormons baptizing dead yidden!!! ”
How dare you compare an Israeli flag to being baptized. They were murdered because of the Israeli flag which they interpret to mean jewish if you like that or not. In other words they died because of the flag (eventhough they didnt care much about the country or whatever else they felt towards Israel. But the goyim dont differentiate between a frey yid or a chasideshe yid a yid is a yid and a yid represents Israel. Shame on you that the flag near the kedoshim is what bothers you. They will not bury the flag with the coffin its just to show the world that they were killed because of their country which is a jewish country.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:24 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Why do they insist on being mevazeh the meis with an israeli flag when it was specifically asked it not be put there? and we complain about mormons baptizing dead yidden!!! ”
I am pretty sure that there was no flag on 2 of the coffins. One of the closeups seem to show a coffin draped in a Tallis.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:23 PM Anonymous Says:
“ An IDF officer was stationed before each flag-draped coffin with the name of the victim. Could some one please explain, what benefit will the Neshomos of the victims have from an IDF ceremony. ”
What benefit?? You are incredible. It is comparable to an honor guard. What benefit?? You have a problem with Jewish soldiers paying respects to Jewish martyrs...?? You are pathetic....
For three days we watched this horror unfold...and it brought klal yisroel to its knees....we're still walking around catatonic....and you're "klerring shaalos" about what kovod it brings the kedoshim to have IDF soldiers there....there's no shailah.....it brings them more kovod than if you were there.....
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:23 PM hate Says:
Dear Moshe.
You should hate the people who killed your parents! Yes you should strive for peace within yourself and others, but with this type of people who could do such inhumane acts you must hate them. We will never forget! We will always hate them!!!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:23 PM Anonymous Says:
Not all Muslims are terrorists ... but all terrorists are Muslims. Yemach Shmom V'zichrom. Vyinkom Nikmas Dam Avodaicho Hashofich !!!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:20 PM Anonymous Says:
If Rabbi popenhiem from the Eideh wouldnt have opened his big mouth about this issue there would have not been any flag put on, but since he did just to create controversy the only answer is EAT IT
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:18 PM anony Says:
Six! Six! Six Million jews, Now Six Kedoshim! We must continue doing good to fight the hate! We will never forget what they did! We will not let them win!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:34 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I suggest you take a plane to Pakistan and hunt them down yourself and due what they did, if you are so adamant on revenge. If you are not willing to do it, stop being such a big talker ”
why so harsh what did he do to you? i mean come on.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:30 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Why do they insist on being mevazeh the meis with an israeli flag when it was specifically asked it not be put there? and we complain about mormons baptizing dead yidden!!! ”
BECAUSE THEY PAID TO BRING THE BODIES BACK!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:29 PM Reb Shea Says:
“ An IDF officer was stationed before each flag-draped coffin with the name of the victim. Could some one please explain, what benefit will the Neshomos of the victims have from an IDF ceremony. ”
It is an extra kovod hames. The Israeli Defense Forces - the army that every single day risks their own lives to protect ALL yidden in our eretz hakodesh, regardless of anyone's political affiliations, is showing their final respect to our tyerah "soldiers" that were murdered al kiddush Hashem. The neshomos are benefiting from the mitzva of kavod hames that is being performed by the IDF.
I think it is a very beautiful kavod from our gashmiusdike soldiers to our ruchniesdike soldiers, the kedoshim of mumbai HY"D. I dont think it should be mocked or questioned
Regardless of our different views on the government of eretz yisroel, let us not confuse this feeling with the fact that they are showing kovod to the kedoshim in the way in which they see fit. While not everyone will agree with it, they are performing the mitzva of kavod hames and that mitzvos are being done is in itself a zechus for the neshomos.
We should only have simchas and achdus in Klal ...Hamokom Yinachaim Eschem Besoch Shaar Avaylay Tzion V'Yerushalayim
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:41 PM Anonymous Says:
“ If Rabbi popenhiem from the Eideh wouldnt have opened his big mouth about this issue there would have not been any flag put on, but since he did just to create controversy the only answer is EAT IT ”
EXCUSE!!!!but that is exactly the mdina full of rishus. There here just to hurt the family just because they requested it. Yea they show big ahavas chinom
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:39 PM Anonymous Says:
The Family asked for no be placed flag there, so why did the state add more pain and suffering??? It just shows how much they really care!!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:36 PM Anonymous Says:
its a certain relief to see the bodies finally, it makes me happy after so many sad days, to see the bodies no longer in torture and finally being able to be laid in peace.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:14 PM bigwheeel Says:
“ toldos avrum yitzcok rebbe was there? ”
Ni vus den?! Affileh Naarish-Machen zich hot a Sheer!!! There comes a moment of truth! And this is it!!!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:09 PM Anonymous Says:
“
Somber Ceremony? How about some revenge? When will we finally teach these SUBHUMAN CREATURES a lesson and bomb their terrorist holdouts into oblivion??
And i'm not a right wing nut, but when will these people be taught a lesson that would make them think twice before causing so much pain with their barbaric subhuman acts of violence????
And i'm well aware that these creatures are suicidal maniacs. But if they would know that we would revenge each and every terrorist attack upon their terrorist friends by making them suffer the same tortures that these sub humans inflict upon their innocent victims, than maybe just maybe they WILL think twice.
”
sad to say but maybe when they do it here in america. they will walk into shopping centers. subways.schools ect. g-d forbid
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:08 PM Anonymous Says:
“ How dare you compare an Israeli flag to being baptized. They were murdered because of the Israeli flag which they interpret to mean jewish if you like that or not. In other words they died because of the flag (eventhough they didnt care much about the country or whatever else they felt towards Israel. But the goyim dont differentiate between a frey yid or a chasideshe yid a yid is a yid and a yid represents Israel. Shame on you that the flag near the kedoshim is what bothers you. They will not bury the flag with the coffin its just to show the world that they were killed because of their country which is a jewish country. ”
I remember there were 7 dead. here there are only 6 coffins.
But I remember also that both Kroman and Teitlebaums familes said no Israeli flag or israeli funeral.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:06 PM Anonymous Says:
“ How dare you compare an Israeli flag to being baptized. They were murdered because of the Israeli flag which they interpret to mean jewish if you like that or not. In other words they died because of the flag (eventhough they didnt care much about the country or whatever else they felt towards Israel. But the goyim dont differentiate between a frey yid or a chasideshe yid a yid is a yid and a yid represents Israel. Shame on you that the flag near the kedoshim is what bothers you. They will not bury the flag with the coffin its just to show the world that they were killed because of their country which is a jewish country. ”
I dont see why your reacting so strongly. Its a treife medina that was asked not to turn their bodies into idols for the state.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:00 PM Anonymous Says:
Just for your info, I spoke with a family member tonight and he told me they never authorized popenheim to give any statment! He made his remark to get some press!!
The family member told me the TAY rebbe told them not to make an issue of this.
Btw, he said he was his chavrusah 10 years ago, but forgot to mention he didn't talk with him since.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:49 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The tragic event in India brought about a great achdus bettween all yidden. To continue in this special spirit of achdus, I am starting a campaign to promote achdus and ahavas yisroel thru ads in the major jewish weekly newspapers. This will be done leeluy Nishmas the Kedoshim killed in India.
The ads will feature a Maamar Chazal on the importance of achdus, Shalom and Ahavas Yisroel. Please help sponsor a ad. It could be a company sponsorship so your company will be mentioned as the sponsor. I can not do this without your help.
To sponsor a ad, or suggest a maamar chazal, you may email me at achdusnow@gmail.com or call 718 954 2210.
Thank You
Avrohom Rotban
Staten Island ”
what a beautiful idea!!! we would love to help... financially we can't really donate too much.. .we will try our best.. but we would love to help in any other areas...
we - all of klal yisrael really need to get together and make a strategy to bring mashiach.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:44 PM Anonymous Says:
“ It is an extra kovod hames. The Israeli Defense Forces - the army that every single day risks their own lives to protect ALL yidden in our eretz hakodesh, regardless of anyone's political affiliations, is showing their final respect to our tyerah "soldiers" that were murdered al kiddush Hashem. The neshomos are benefiting from the mitzva of kavod hames that is being performed by the IDF.
I think it is a very beautiful kavod from our gashmiusdike soldiers to our ruchniesdike soldiers, the kedoshim of mumbai HY"D. I dont think it should be mocked or questioned
Regardless of our different views on the government of eretz yisroel, let us not confuse this feeling with the fact that they are showing kovod to the kedoshim in the way in which they see fit. While not everyone will agree with it, they are performing the mitzva of kavod hames and that mitzvos are being done is in itself a zechus for the neshomos.
We should only have simchas and achdus in Klal ...Hamokom Yinachaim Eschem Besoch Shaar Avaylay Tzion V'Yerushalayim ”
Yea very big achdus not obeying the families will
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Dec 01, 2008 at 08:59 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The Family asked for no be placed flag there, so why did the state add more pain and suffering??? It just shows how much they really care!! ”
I think if you look good it was covered with a talis correct me if not
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:28 PM Anonymous Says:
It makes me proud to be a jew to see the jewish airline rush in with jewish soliders to rescue the remains of jews. If you are a jew you can always count on your jewish family - be they hatzolah, Zaka, IDF, Mossad etc. They are there. They care and they do their best.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:28 PM monseyer Says:
“ If Rabbi popenhiem from the Eideh wouldnt have opened his big mouth about this issue there would have not been any flag put on, but since he did just to create controversy the only answer is EAT IT ”
youre out right worng!
there was a news report in YNET that they intend to wrap the kedoshim with flages, and that stirred the whole tadam..
the minute i saw the headlines i knew its going to be trouble, lets not kid ourselves the isralies know darn well that the flag is a no no by the reb ahreleach, WHY AGRRAVATE THEM?????
WHAT A SHAME!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:34 PM Anonymous Says:
“ sad to say but maybe when they do it here in america. they will walk into shopping centers. subways.schools ect. g-d forbid ”
You're 1000% correct.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:39 PM Lubavitcher Says:
I am not sure if you are aware of this or not but Chabad Lubavitch is NOT zionist and would not approve of the placing of a flag on the body, However since the Israeli government did bring the bodies back to Israel and since the Israeli government did help the families they must have felt bad to say anything that would show as if they are not grateful and spitting them back in the face, Chabad Lubavitch cares about the Israeli government and the Israeli soldiers because they are jews and because they protect jews living in Israel but do not hold the flag to a religious symbol and do not believe that the state of Israel was the begining of the geulah that we should merit in reality NOW!!!
( I just wanted to make that clear because it seems that people here think that the Satmar wouldn't want the flag on his body but that a luavitcher would )
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:37 PM Chaim Says:
“ How dare you compare an Israeli flag to being baptized. They were murdered because of the Israeli flag which they interpret to mean jewish if you like that or not. In other words they died because of the flag (eventhough they didnt care much about the country or whatever else they felt towards Israel. But the goyim dont differentiate between a frey yid or a chasideshe yid a yid is a yid and a yid represents Israel. Shame on you that the flag near the kedoshim is what bothers you. They will not bury the flag with the coffin its just to show the world that they were killed because of their country which is a jewish country. ”
You are saying the same as the crazy Neturei Karta say. It is Israels fault that they were killed!
We do not know why things happen all we can do is follow in the footsteps of our fathers. Flags are not part of our religion.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:48 PM Shaul in Monsey Says:
I hope one of the take aways from this terrible pogrom is that there is no yeshivish, litvish, modern, frum, satmer, vizhnitz, conservadox...b'einei harotzchim we're all Jews. And after Mumbai, we're all Chabad. It is the fractured, petty infighting in Klal Yisroel, more than any single factor - that keeps us from the geulah. We live in a dor that learns more Torah blatt for blatt and gives more tzedakah dollar for dollar than at any other time since the mabul. Yet here we are, still in golus. Only an am kshei oref, stubborn to the core, judgmental to a fault, with such terrible tragedies falling around us like rain, can keep the geulah at bay with our petty infighting and nonsensical labelling and judging of this one because his yarmulka is too small and that one because he doesn't even wear one. Would be funny if it weren't so sad.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:46 PM Anonymous Says:
If they really didn't want it do you think the army would have done it to them? I am sure like was mentioned beofre that the Rebbe told them not to make an issue, or these are blue and white talleisim
let us not fight at this moment. This will not cause an aliyah for these heilige neshamos
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Dec 01, 2008 at 09:43 PM bklynandbored Says:
am wondering why the US ambassador was not there (at Ben Gurion). The Indian and Mexican delegations were there. I assume some representation will be at the funerals, since at least three were US citizens. i sure hope so.
HAMAKOM YINACHEM DAMOM! Fight Islamic Fundamentalism! The Religion of Peace should be wiped off the face of the earth.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 10:10 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I hope one of the take aways from this terrible pogrom is that there is no yeshivish, litvish, modern, frum, satmer, vizhnitz, conservadox...b'einei harotzchim we're all Jews. And after Mumbai, we're all Chabad. It is the fractured, petty infighting in Klal Yisroel, more than any single factor - that keeps us from the geulah. We live in a dor that learns more Torah blatt for blatt and gives more tzedakah dollar for dollar than at any other time since the mabul. Yet here we are, still in golus. Only an am kshei oref, stubborn to the core, judgmental to a fault, with such terrible tragedies falling around us like rain, can keep the geulah at bay with our petty infighting and nonsensical labelling and judging of this one because his yarmulka is too small and that one because he doesn't even wear one. Would be funny if it weren't so sad. ”
As Usual very well said
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Dec 01, 2008 at 10:03 PM Anonymous Says:
“ How dare you compare an Israeli flag to being baptized. They were murdered because of the Israeli flag which they interpret to mean jewish if you like that or not. In other words they died because of the flag (eventhough they didnt care much about the country or whatever else they felt towards Israel. But the goyim dont differentiate between a frey yid or a chasideshe yid a yid is a yid and a yid represents Israel. Shame on you that the flag near the kedoshim is what bothers you. They will not bury the flag with the coffin its just to show the world that they were killed because of their country which is a jewish country. ”
well said.... by the way who was the founder of zionisim and the state of israel the chofetz chiaim or the tzanzer ruv or lehavdil a machalal shabos who died on yom kippur with a pen in his hand YM"S
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Dec 01, 2008 at 10:01 PM Anonymous Says:
“ How dare you compare an Israeli flag to being baptized. They were murdered because of the Israeli flag which they interpret to mean jewish if you like that or not. In other words they died because of the flag (eventhough they didnt care much about the country or whatever else they felt towards Israel. But the goyim dont differentiate between a frey yid or a chasideshe yid a yid is a yid and a yid represents Israel. Shame on you that the flag near the kedoshim is what bothers you. They will not bury the flag with the coffin its just to show the world that they were killed because of their country which is a jewish country. ”
The wicked Israeli government is using the opportunity to publicize its agenda.
Many Jews want to live in Eretz Yisrael so they are forced to live in the Medinah, evil and wicked that it is. I would never want to be associated with it . . . ever.
I will always remember Gush Katif, Amana, and the past 60 years of antagonism, duplicity, perfidy, and outright hatred for Torah and the Jews who fear Hashem.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 10:45 PM ML Says:
If you look at the last picture you can clearly see that it's a tallis......
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Dec 01, 2008 at 10:38 PM Anonymous Says:
“ How dare you compare an Israeli flag to being baptized. They were murdered because of the Israeli flag which they interpret to mean jewish if you like that or not. In other words they died because of the flag (eventhough they didnt care much about the country or whatever else they felt towards Israel. But the goyim dont differentiate between a frey yid or a chasideshe yid a yid is a yid and a yid represents Israel. Shame on you that the flag near the kedoshim is what bothers you. They will not bury the flag with the coffin its just to show the world that they were killed because of their country which is a jewish country. ”
You're 100% wrong thay where killed cause of being a jew the same reson thosends of jews where killed in the last 2000 years so by putting a flag that thay asked not to put and thay did it just for there propegande is a real chilel k'vod h'mes done by jewish ppl for jewish ppl
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Dec 01, 2008 at 10:36 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The wicked Israeli government is using the opportunity to publicize its agenda.
Many Jews want to live in Eretz Yisrael so they are forced to live in the Medinah, evil and wicked that it is. I would never want to be associated with it . . . ever.
I will always remember Gush Katif, Amana, and the past 60 years of antagonism, duplicity, perfidy, and outright hatred for Torah and the Jews who fear Hashem. ”
The medina is certainly not founded or run al taharas hakodesh, but also be makir tov for:
being able to go to the mekomos hakedoshim safely
the incredible amount of money given to yeshivos and kollel families
protecting (and yes, avenging) jewish lives around the world
all the people (including the thousands of mostly chilonim) who have given their lives
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Dec 01, 2008 at 10:56 PM Reb Shea Says:
“ Yea very big achdus not obeying the families will ”
It seems the family's will was not clear. However with that being said, this was not the levaya. The family wished that the medina should not run the levaya - meaning the funeral arrangements that R"L the fallen soldiers of the IDF receive.
This was the IDF saluting the Kedoshim as they were unloaded off the plane.
I wish everyone would stop being so jumpy. I love VIN and their quick and efficient postings of news stories. Sometimes I feel that my friends in their haste to post their comments, do not fully read a story and jump to post their judgment. So far it has been written on VIN that the families didnt want a certain style levaya. This was a act of kovod given to the kedoshim as they were unloaded off the plane, no different then the honor bestowed upon fallen American soldiers when they are unloaded off a plane. These are not and were not the funeral services.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 10:56 PM Anonymous Says:
“ An IDF officer was stationed before each flag-draped coffin with the name of the victim. Could some one please explain, what benefit will the Neshomos of the victims have from an IDF ceremony. ”
This is a form of respect.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 11:07 PM chriss Says:
“ Why do they insist on being mevazeh the meis with an israeli flag when it was specifically asked it not be put there? and we complain about mormons baptizing dead yidden!!! ”
(#13) we are talking about achdus in Klal Yisruel, and all you're busy is the flag! This was not the Levay'a and it will be taken down, it was just the arrival - and as long u will be busy with these 'SHTISIM' and see the 'Tufel' there will not be achdus in klal yisrual, get real!
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Dec 01, 2008 at 11:00 PM chaim braun Says:
“ An IDF officer was stationed before each flag-draped coffin with the name of the victim. Could some one please explain, what benefit will the Neshomos of the victims have from an IDF ceremony. ”
its a sign of respect.
A state funeral.
There is ahalocho of kavod hames. What more do have to complain about?
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Dec 01, 2008 at 11:22 PM Anonymous Says:
“ An IDF officer was stationed before each flag-draped coffin with the name of the victim. Could some one please explain, what benefit will the Neshomos of the victims have from an IDF ceremony. ”
maybe they wanted to make sure each niftar had a shomer at all times
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Dec 01, 2008 at 11:10 PM Anonymous Says:
Factually, the coffins were covered with tallesim and not the star of David. If there is a problem with the color of the drapings the protesters should have brought their own Forensic doctors and their own plane to bring back all these kedoishim.
Before the establishment of Israel , a group called the Nazis killed all jews indiscriminately as these moslem animals tortured them all equally. These Kedoshim are equal in their death as having died as yidden and all our people should see we are united in recognizing why they were tortured equally. The toldos avram yitzchok kodosh, the lubavitcher kedoishim and the other heilige yidden aleihem hasholom and all our children should see a uniform talis on all these sacrifices.
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Dec 01, 2008 at 11:10 PM Roses Says:
To #13. First of all, the government respected the wishes of the families of the two kedoshim who specifcally requested no flag. Albeit, the Israeli Govt. did put all its efforts into speeding up the harrowing process and preventing autopties.
Also, as always, the Satan jumps in to ruin everything that is good and pure. After all the posts of achdus and special websites dedicated to ahavas yisroel, etc.. someone rears the ugly head of machlokes - that is the koach of the Satan. He wreaked enough carnage - please let us not relinquish our tears and commitments to the Satan now. Here and now is not the forum for debates on Zionism and flags. Kol Yisroel Areivin Zeh LaZeh. It says, KOL
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