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After watching WCBS/Ch. 2's two-part sweeps "exclusive" last week about members of the Hasidic Jewish community who cheat on their wives and Hasidic couples who swing, well, it's hard to argue the viewers are wrong.
Before the first piece aired, Ch. 2 anchor Kristine Johnson told viewers that the station was revealing "a side of that community that is rarely seen; some are straying far from their beliefs, breaking their marital vows with other community members."
People cheat on their spouses?
Shocking!
What's more shocking, though, is that Ch. 2 spent three months - a quarter of a year - uncovering this so-called scandal at a time when TV news budgets, including payrolls, are being slashed.
"There are some married Hasidic men and woman who sneak away from their ultrareligious lives," reporter Dave Carlin intoned. "They use the Internet to break their vows and break Jewish law."
Carlin delivered every word as if he was auditioning for "CSI," and in a manner suggesting that what he was saying carried life-changing significance.
Yeah, like the brain cells people lost watching.
Carlin talked to one man, who, with his face blurred, admitted to cheating on his wife. And he talked to a woman who discussed what it was like to be in an arranged marriage - and to ultimately leave.
The piece was called "Sacred Vows, Secret Affairs."
It should have been called "More Sweeps Crap."
Reporting on issues involving the Hasidic community is a valid exercise, no doubt. The insular nature of the community makes it largely unknown to most people, and there is some intrigue.
But please, have a real reason for doing it. Give viewers a valid insight into people who make up a part of this city.
Don't make it, as this clearly was, TV titillation during the home stretch of a sweeps (a ratings period, it should be noted, that was mostly marked this time around by extra stories of snake-oil beauty treatments and health updates).
"You know, Dave," Johnson said after the first of two pieces aired, "people at home are probably saying to themselves, affairs happen in all communities."
Sure, there probably were people making that observation - those who weren't swearing at their TVs at that point.
"We're not trying to point a finger or call out any one group or community," Carlin said. "But as we looked into this over three months, the stories themselves, the emotion coming out from these individuals is so compelling."
That, folks, is pure baloney.
No wonder viewers lose faith.
rhuff@nydailynews.com
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:26 AM MP Says:
3 months to interview 2 misfits and a rabbi?
Impressive work.
Had they interviewed people who are still in our community they might have had a story.
2 dropouts don't tell anything about a community.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:23 AM ITS A SHAME!!!!!! Says:
ITS A SHAME!!!!!!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:32 AM Anonymous Says:
"Burich sha'kivanti" it made no sense at all
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:43 AM Anonymous Says:
i wont argue if its true or not but one thing is for certain what was the whole point of this story ? i mean whats so interesting about this in any case? there are people from all walks of life that cheat for different reasons and this is going on since worlld creation but most people try not to cheat so if a few do whats so interesting about it? let them do a documentry of how the ilegals effect our lifes in more negative ways then not plus i stil dont see that it should have helped our economy... so why are they here???
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:42 AM mewhoze Says:
thats why i emailed cbs directly to tell them of my disgust with their report and to tell them that i will no longer watch their show.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:41 AM Anonymous Says:
"Burich sha'kivanti" it made no sense at all
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:38 AM Anonymous Says:
a bunch of bored souls go cover the war in iraq!!!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:38 AM Yossi Says:
Look at 90% that are happy and look at the 70% that are working hard don't look the small percent that are lazy bums
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:36 AM Anonymous Says:
I bet in 1 hour they would've found more affairs in the CBS newsroom, what is the official percentage of married people who cheap on their spouses? Almost 50%!!! And to find only 2 people!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:34 AM Anonymous Says:
thank you daily news
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:45 AM Anonymous Says:
Kudos to the Daily News for calling out CBS. See, there was no reason for all the soul searching and dramatic "woe, how should we respond" rhetoric.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:53 AM anonymous Says:
wait for geraldo.....
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:51 AM murray Says:
“ "Burich sha'kivanti" it made no sense at all ”
Not so. It makes perfect sense. Their is a hidden agenda here-
The goal is to take peoples minds off the real issues of the day. Better to talk about sex than disclose how close Iran is to a nuclear bomb. Better to talk about which basketball player is breaking the law than to talk about the economy, etc.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:50 AM happy man Says:
Good job!
I knew that we have real smart people in our community who know how to take care of the CBS report. And won't let everyone do to us whatever thay want.
And let's all stick up for ourselves and continue our duty.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:57 AM Anonymous Says:
Cbs should now conduct a survey to get actual statistic instead of reporting on two cases. The survey should focus on the ultra orthox jewish community remaining faithful in their marriage. I think the results will be a huge kiddush hashem!!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 10:44 AM sherlock bayis Says:
I'm not surprised that it took 3 months to find these 2 misfits who engage in such things. If it were more common it wouldn't take that long. If you look long enough you will find aberations such as these, but in this immoral society, we stand apart and over 99% of Yiddin don't even come close to engaging in such.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 10:58 AM egghead Says:
Wow after 3 month and probably hundreds of thousands of dollars all he could come up was some loser named Yossi? I'm starting to believe in this community
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Dec 02, 2008 at 10:55 AM Anonymous Says:
Anyone with brains dismissed that pathetic report as exactly that - pathetic.
What was the point of this report? To tell me that they found out of people cheating in the jewish religion?? WOW what a find..
Why am i even wasting my time commenting on this????
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Dec 02, 2008 at 10:55 AM Anonymous Says:
While i applaud the Daily News for ratting out on CBS they, nevertheless, did not offer any basis for their assertions that the report was pure baloney. So I'm not sure why they are calling out on CBS.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:19 AM Shloma Burich Says:
Anyways they aired the last segment. SO LETS US ALL SAY BURICH SHEPUTRANI to CBS
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:35 AM Anonymous Says:
This reporter from ther Daily News seems to have hit the nail on the head. Kudos Daily News.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:54 AM Anonymous Says:
Let's not kid ourselves there are a lot of ppl that cheat on their spouse in our community but its not as bad as CBS is reporting
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Dec 02, 2008 at 11:56 AM Hando Says:
Wait until they do their upcoming report on Shoplifting in the Amish community !
They are spending 3 months on an in-depth secret investigation.
It will feature one ex-Amish man, and one ex-Amish woman (whose faces and voices will be blurred). They will speak about the time that they took a newspaper and didn't pay for it.
This will prove the out-of-control phenomenon of rampant theft and shoplifting among the Amish communities which nobody has ever been able to access...
3 staff members are taking a 3-month paid period to disappear and come back with "revelations" and "interviews" on this magic "discovery".
Sounds like a great idea, no?
If they were to find two African Americans who agree to be "interviewed" with their faces distorted, and who admitted to having sex with animals - would CBS then show a feature expose' about "The black community and their perverted animal fetishes"? I would love to see the new Obama administration and the NAACP have a crack at them, and get millions in fines from the FCC !!!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 12:09 PM Anonymous Says:
That's classic behavior of reshaim, that is, to try to pull down tzaddikim to their level of sin, in order to strengthen themselves in their aveiros.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 12:36 PM Anonymous Says:
The meida are all antisemites.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 01:05 PM Yoeli Says:
“ Cbs should now conduct a survey to get actual statistic instead of reporting on two cases. The survey should focus on the ultra orthox jewish community remaining faithful in their marriage. I think the results will be a huge kiddush hashem!! ”
Maybe, but that would not be newsworthy. Icould have told you that there are some bums that stray off the path and it would not have taken any time or money.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 01:23 PM Best part Says:
The best part of the article is that this so called Yossy said himself that he wants his kids go grow up in the same community he did…
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Dec 02, 2008 at 01:37 PM The Truth Says:
Sadly, the truth is, it does occur in all "frum" communities.
Of course sex sells, thats why they blew it up into a huge report.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 01:50 PM Chaim Says:
“ Look at 90% that are happy and look at the 70% that are working hard don't look the small percent that are lazy bums ”
Yossi you say 90% are happy?? are you out of your mind? A big big percentage of chassidish marriages are only together because of pressure from the community they live in.
The fact that there are fewer divorces in the chassidish community, is in no way an indication that people there are more happily married. Sorry to burst the bubble, i am just sick of hearing from everyone the chassidish marriages work so well.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 02:21 PM Gefilte Fish Says:
People, do you remember the New York magazine's article on Gitty Greenwald? Do you know how many hits their website got the following weeks? The amount of comments on this story was (I think) 6 times the most commented article up until then.
That is the reason CBS2 did this thing, they realized that stories on the Hasidic community bears fruit. And in these economic times, Who doesn't need a boost?
Had we ignored this outrageous article in the NY mag, this would not happen. Lets learn from our mistakes and disregard these nonsense articles from now on.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 02:32 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Yossi you say 90% are happy?? are you out of your mind? A big big percentage of chassidish marriages are only together because of pressure from the community they live in.
The fact that there are fewer divorces in the chassidish community, is in no way an indication that people there are more happily married. Sorry to burst the bubble, i am just sick of hearing from everyone the chassidish marriages work so well. ”
you must be a jealous litvak or misnaged. now adays no one forces an unhappy couple to stay in the marriage.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 03:16 PM Anonymous Says:
“ you must be a jealous litvak or misnaged. now adays no one forces an unhappy couple to stay in the marriage. ”
most people stay in unhappy marriages for the sake of the children
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Dec 02, 2008 at 04:23 PM Anonymous Says:
i have never been prouder of our community, 3 months!!! and this is all they got????? wow i myself was sure its more then that.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 05:49 PM getzel Says:
“ Let's not kid ourselves there are a lot of ppl that cheat on their spouse in our community but its not as bad as CBS is reporting ”
Hey looser talkink about your own experience? No we actually don't cheat
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Dec 02, 2008 at 07:58 PM Anonymous Says:
the same woman from monsey is at it again! it was easy to recognize her face..and her name is leah like i am mother theresa!
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Dec 02, 2008 at 08:07 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Let's not kid ourselves there are a lot of ppl that cheat on their spouse in our community but its not as bad as CBS is reporting ”
MAYBEEEE 1%
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Dec 02, 2008 at 08:50 PM murray Says:
“ Cbs should now conduct a survey to get actual statistic instead of reporting on two cases. The survey should focus on the ultra orthox jewish community remaining faithful in their marriage. I think the results will be a huge kiddush hashem!! ”
We have nothing to prove to CBS-let them stew in their own juices, rotten bastards.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 08:14 PM Anonymous Says:
RIVKY B if u read this i want u to know u r a lier 99.99 dont have sex with other maried ppl. its u and only u and maybee this yossi
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Dec 02, 2008 at 09:53 PM mw13 Says:
if it really took them 3 months too find 2 people who cheated, we're doing pretty good
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Dec 02, 2008 at 10:31 PM AROINY Says:
LET US JUST IGNORE THEM ALL
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Dec 02, 2008 at 10:51 PM HAPPY GUY Says:
“ Yossi you say 90% are happy?? are you out of your mind? A big big percentage of chassidish marriages are only together because of pressure from the community they live in.
The fact that there are fewer divorces in the chassidish community, is in no way an indication that people there are more happily married. Sorry to burst the bubble, i am just sick of hearing from everyone the chassidish marriages work so well. ”
i feel bad for you but i know there is a lot of people who are in the same pants like you but most people are happy even though you think that inside every house is like yours but i got a bigger bubble to bust for you....... YOU ARE DREAMING
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Dec 02, 2008 at 10:49 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Look at 90% that are happy and look at the 70% that are working hard don't look the small percent that are lazy bums ”
you're 1000 percent right
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Dec 02, 2008 at 10:57 PM Baila Says:
Unimpressive reporting but the reality is that there is plenty of crap going on.. every so often a scandal comes to light and it only makes you wonder how many more go unoticed...
The happy marriage scenario holds true for a large percentage, based on our family oriented lifestyle and the fact that we all come from similar backgrounds, similar aspirations for life, and we do get married young enough to grow together. But for very very many the system does fail them - people stay in unhappy marriages mostly for the sake of their kids, due to peer pressure and the stigma divorce comes with in our community. So so many out there.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 12:16 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Wait until they do their upcoming report on Shoplifting in the Amish community !
They are spending 3 months on an in-depth secret investigation.
It will feature one ex-Amish man, and one ex-Amish woman (whose faces and voices will be blurred). They will speak about the time that they took a newspaper and didn't pay for it.
This will prove the out-of-control phenomenon of rampant theft and shoplifting among the Amish communities which nobody has ever been able to access...
3 staff members are taking a 3-month paid period to disappear and come back with "revelations" and "interviews" on this magic "discovery".
Sounds like a great idea, no?
If they were to find two African Americans who agree to be "interviewed" with their faces distorted, and who admitted to having sex with animals - would CBS then show a feature expose' about "The black community and their perverted animal fetishes"? I would love to see the new Obama administration and the NAACP have a crack at them, and get millions in fines from the FCC !!! ”
They don't have to do an expose on schvartzes because they are already on every criminal reality show. Like Cops, SWAT and all the others. And of course the crime news. They are jealous so they will do anything to "prove" we are just like them!
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Dec 03, 2008 at 12:10 AM Jewish Princess Says:
I'm an "innocent" out of towner. I occasionally do hear these types of allegations. What's the point, though, of dragging up the so-called victories of the Satan and yetzer hara as "news." It's pathetic when yidden fall...no one is perfect...least of all, these media types who love to ferret out the "shmutz" in the frum community. They need to "get a life" and stop looking for vice among the holy.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 12:48 AM Anonymous Says:
a perfect marriage doesn't happen overnight. u have to try to improve as much as possible. those who cheat will never be happy cuz they will always think the grass is greener on the other side. kdos to the individuals that r working hard to make their marriage work and improve. hatzlucha to everyone
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Dec 03, 2008 at 05:10 AM matzahlocal101 Says:
“ While i applaud the Daily News for ratting out on CBS they, nevertheless, did not offer any basis for their assertions that the report was pure baloney. So I'm not sure why they are calling out on CBS. ”
By their own admission they interviewed 2 people WHO LEFT THE COMMUNITY. So there were no chassidic persons interviewed. They interview a modern orthodox rabbi who had TWO sons forced from the rabbinate due to sexual impropriety to get his spin on the chassidic community, a community he has been bashing for over 30 years. One of this rabbi's congregants was a Rockland county DA also forced to resign because of sexual improprieties to the embarassment of the entire orthodox community. Case in point, in his interview in the book Boychiks in the Hood. (Harper 1995 pp. 200-203) This Rabbi says that the Lubavitch chasidim remained orthodox under communist Russia because people thought they were crazy, so Stalin simply ignored them. 70 years later when perestroika dawned, thousands of Lubavitchers came crawling out of the wood work. This is how he refers to the chasidim that were hunted, persecuted, prosecuted, imprisoned, tortured, exiled an executed for keeping yiddishkeit with mesiras nefesh. This is the rabbi that refers to the Jews who watched their families murdered in front of their eyes. suffered the horrors of Auschwitz, came to America with the shirts on their backs and raised the level of kashrus, shmiras Shabbos, davening, learning, etc. in America as: "those hungarians... uch!" in recorded YU lecture. This is the rabbi that brags in a recorded lecture that after his "medical" paper attacking bris milah was rejected twice by JAMA (because it's garbage) he violated editorial policy by having six non-authors sign on in an effort to force Pediatrics to accept it. This is the objective source they quote.
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Dec 03, 2008 at 02:46 AM Anonymous Says:
where do they dig up these people anyway? are "yossi" and "leah" friends? all these people leave the fold to "find" themselves but instead they are losers who get even more lost. THERAPY!! the only thing they really need. having an affair only complicates their lives more
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Dec 03, 2008 at 01:30 AM Truth Detector Says:
C B S stands for Complete Balony Stories
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Dec 03, 2008 at 10:34 AM Plain jew Says:
“ Hey looser talkink about your own experience? No we actually don't cheat ”
The only thing that you can be sure of is that "you" don't cheat. You cannot say "we" don't cheat. You don't know what anybody else does !!!