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Dec 04, 2008 at 01:39 PM
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Maria did not say which victims were brutalized, but a Brooklyn rabbi and his wife were among those slaughtered last week after terrorists invaded and turned the Nariman House into a house of horrors.
Many of the bodies were badly damaged when Indian commandos began blasting the center in a botched rescue bid, complicating the grisly task of gathering all the remains for burial as required by Jewish law, Israeli sources said.
"If they were tortured, it would be hard to tell from looking at some of the bodies," one Israeli source said. "They were that damaged."
The horrific revelations were yet another blow for the Jewish community, which is mourning the deaths.
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Dec 04, 2008 at 01:49 PM yankel Says:
yimach shemom v'zichrom
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Dec 04, 2008 at 02:01 PM Anonymous Says:
its crazy to think that the savages who committed these horrible crimes lived in pakistan their whole lives and never met a jew in their life and yet were able to committ such brutal crimes against people simply because they are jewish
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Dec 04, 2008 at 02:08 PM Shmuel Zev Says:
“ its crazy to think that the savages who committed these horrible crimes lived in pakistan their whole lives and never met a jew in their life and yet were able to committ such brutal crimes against people simply because they are jewish ”
Obviously you are not a student of history as you seem to think anti-semitism is rational or logical.
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Dec 04, 2008 at 02:02 PM Anonymous Says:
How much can we hear in one week?
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Dec 04, 2008 at 02:28 PM Miss Williamsburg Says:
Why do we need to know this? To traumatize us more than we already are?
It is impossible to know precisely what was going on there so why do we need to be fed all this information which might be someone's imagination. Of course it is possible that these lowlife creature would have no problem torturing others but since we don't know for sure that they did, why torment ourselves with details and information which might not be true at all.
As long as we can comfort ourselves knowing that now these Kedoshim are peacefully in Gan Eden and hopefully we will all be reunited very soon with the coming of Mashiach!
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Dec 04, 2008 at 02:24 PM Babishka Says:
Tateynu, I can't take any more of this.
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Dec 04, 2008 at 02:51 PM Anonymous Says:
Read up a bit on what is taught in these Midrassas in Pakistan...they put Goebbels to shame. And, they are funded by the Saudis, whose leader good ole boy George W. wrapped his arms around not to long ago.
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Dec 04, 2008 at 04:06 PM Anonymous Says:
the Mahram Merutenberg says that one who dies ala kiddush Hashem does not feel any pain!
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Dec 04, 2008 at 03:42 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Why do we need to know this? To traumatize us more than we already are?
It is impossible to know precisely what was going on there so why do we need to be fed all this information which might be someone's imagination. Of course it is possible that these lowlife creature would have no problem torturing others but since we don't know for sure that they did, why torment ourselves with details and information which might not be true at all.
As long as we can comfort ourselves knowing that now these Kedoshim are peacefully in Gan Eden and hopefully we will all be reunited very soon with the coming of Mashiach! ”
According to your logic, we should not hear what happened to us in the Holocaust either, "why should we torment ourselves with such news "
I think it helps us when we hear about the extent of this tradgedy, it helps us do teshuvah and it helps us understand what kind of enemy we have
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Dec 04, 2008 at 03:35 PM Anonymous Says:
how do the israelis define torture? does someone have to be raped and strangled then killed or is fear, gunshots, and everythimg that comes alomg with it and then killed torture or maybe just hurt
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Dec 04, 2008 at 04:58 PM T S Says:
We will never know the truth of the last days inside there. The murderers and their victims are all dead. Our dead are buried. There's little trust factor available for the Indians with regards to exact cause and time of deaths.
We do know it when it all started, who started it, when it definitely ended and that it included unjustifiable pain and death for the benevolent, pure and inncocent.
Mourn and cry over the loss of life and pain. Mourn and cry over the inexplicability of this happening under Hashem's watch and guarantees.
Know that mind studiers identify general stages taht are *necessary* to work through grief and tragedy:
Denial: This can't be happening
Anger: It's not fair
Bargaining: Something good/better will result
Depression: Why bother doing anything? What's the point?
Acceptance: Some things are beyond me. I'll do my best with what I have left.
As soon as you can get out of the black hole created by the horror that grips you, (or try to pull yourslef out by) -
Help the living.
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Dec 04, 2008 at 04:55 PM Anonymous Says:
“ According to your logic, we should not hear what happened to us in the Holocaust either, "why should we torment ourselves with such news "
I think it helps us when we hear about the extent of this tradgedy, it helps us do teshuvah and it helps us understand what kind of enemy we have ”
They suffered for all of us but you don't even want to know what happened to them???
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Dec 04, 2008 at 05:20 PM Anonymous Says:
“ how do the israelis define torture? does someone have to be raped and strangled then killed or is fear, gunshots, and everythimg that comes alomg with it and then killed torture or maybe just hurt
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all right chill out message received. it is quite irrelevant what kind of torture we just have to think NEBACH these poor innocent souls
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Dec 04, 2008 at 05:16 PM Babishka Says:
I have read an account in another news source of the Taj Hotel. They rounded up all the hotel guests they could find and lined them all up in a stairwell. Then one terrorist stood at the top of the stairs and another at the bottom of the stairs and opened fire, just like in the Holocaust. One man was shot but not killed and he lay down as more and more people, shot dead, piled on top of him. Then the reshoim took out their cell phones and made pictures of the pile of dead people they had killed. This man, who was shot in the leg, lay underneath the pile of bodies for two days until the NSG secured the hotel, an he crawled out.
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Dec 04, 2008 at 08:02 PM Anonymous Says:
“ According to your logic, we should not hear what happened to us in the Holocaust either, "why should we torment ourselves with such news "
I think it helps us when we hear about the extent of this tradgedy, it helps us do teshuvah and it helps us understand what kind of enemy we have ”
if six jews were killed is not enough for theshiva you only do teshiva with all details and no tortoure means no thesiva than you got a major prob
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Dec 04, 2008 at 07:55 PM AuthenticSatmar Says:
It is important that the world knows. A normal mind cannot fathom why a group of kids causing chaos in a major city would even bother with the Chabad house as a target. That they can then waste time and bother to torture the victims is even more astounding. Let the world know what kind of animals Muslims breed.
As for the truth to it, are we to trust the Indians who stood idly by as this was apparently happening? They were outside for three days before entering. That makes the an accomplice to any alleged torture.
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Dec 04, 2008 at 11:16 PM Anonymous Says:
“ They suffered for all of us but you don't even want to know what happened to them??? ”
No. It doesn't make a difference.
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Dec 05, 2008 at 11:15 AM Anonymous Says:
“ It is important that the world knows. A normal mind cannot fathom why a group of kids causing chaos in a major city would even bother with the Chabad house as a target. That they can then waste time and bother to torture the victims is even more astounding. Let the world know what kind of animals Muslims breed.
As for the truth to it, are we to trust the Indians who stood idly by as this was apparently happening? They were outside for three days before entering. That makes the an accomplice to any alleged torture. ”
On the second half of your comment- how dare you? Not only are you kofei tov, you just made a chillul Hashem. Read my comments under Shemtov- one of things I said was no SWAT or commandos in the world would have done a better job. People like you turn even the chasidei oomos haolam into anti-semites! Had they done what they did in Phila. in the 80's not only would no Indian commandos been killed, but most probably you wouldn't be able to bury the deceased like by 9/11. I guess that kind of stragedy would have made you happy!
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Dec 05, 2008 at 12:43 PM Anonymous Says:
please keep in mind the hand grenades that were used !!!
hoping a lot of this is not true
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Dec 05, 2008 at 01:33 PM Anonymous Says:
Half the clowns here attack someone like our President for allowing torture to be used against Moslem scum -- even though it has saved countless lives and avoided tragedies like Mumbai from happening here.
For shame!!