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Southampton, NY - Report: Settlement Reached On Hampton’s Eruv Dispute

Published on: May 30, 2016 05:00 PM
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Southampton, NY - After a nearly decade-long feud and three different court cases, an eruv in Southampton is that much closer to becoming a reality, The New York Times reports (http://nyti.ms/27ZegMy).

The East End Eruv Association, the force behind the push for the eruv since 2008, planned to drape the eruv along about 30 LIPA and Verizon utility poles, but Southampton and its two villages of Westhampton Beach and Quogue, opposed the move. A portion of the eruv has already been installed, but few in the town seem to have noticed.

In 2014, the U.S. District Court for the East District of New York stated that part of the eruv could be installed. “I’m overwhelmed since last summer, when I see these young families who can now comes to services with their children, or their parents, when they didn’t in the past,” Rabbi Marc Schneier of the Hampton Synagogue told the Times by phone.

But there are many opponents to the eruv, especially secular Jews, including Arnold Sheiffer of the groups Jewish People for the Betterment of Westhampton Beach and Jewish People Opposed to the Eruv, who says the eruv will “create another ghetto” in the Hamptons.

“As a reform Jew, I find it extremely offensive to create a distinction that this is a Jewish area,” he said. “The courts have been wrong before. Black people couldn’t sit at lunch counters, and women couldn’t vote and abortions were illegal. Case law isn’t always right.”

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Other concerns about having an eruv center around the fear that after Lawrence and East Ramapo installed eruvim and the Orthodox Jewish community grew, stores began to close on Saturdays, and issues with public schools developed.

“We’ve only got 10 weeks a year to make a living, so every day counts,” said Kevin Mathews, who works at his mother’s boutique. Mathews said he was worried there would be less business on Saturdays if the eruv was put up.

Southampton town supervisor, Jay Schneiderman, said he is glad a settlement has been reached regarding the eruv. “This barrier created a lot of barriers, and now that it’s behind us, I hope people can start to come together again.”


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 May 30, 2016 at 08:40 PM Anonymous Says:

On vey. A once clean, pristine town where everyone takes care of their property is in for a huge culture shock. Hampton folk protect the environment, don't litter and are friendly folk.

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 May 30, 2016 at 08:43 PM Anonymous Says:

This rabbi is a shanda with 4 or 5 wives and many affairs.

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 May 30, 2016 at 09:01 PM Anonymous Says:

Will they be taking over the school board now, cutting art, music and sports and building illegal yeshivas? Look at the history in Ramapo and Lawrence. What about the beaches? Separate days for men and women?

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 May 30, 2016 at 09:37 PM Aron1 Says:

Could anyone imagine the uproar if this was about trying to prevent a Kentucky Fried Chicken from opening because of the type of people that tend to patronize a KFC?

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 May 30, 2016 at 11:24 PM Anonymous Says:

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Aron1 Says:

Could anyone imagine the uproar if this was about trying to prevent a Kentucky Fried Chicken from opening because of the type of people that tend to patronize a KFC?

We are terrible neighbors. Litter, not following rules, not cutting grass. Who needs this? Modesty rules to follow soon.

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 May 31, 2016 at 12:09 AM blank space Says:

Arnold Sheiffer sounds like the self hating Jew who wants to be more goyish than the pope and will do and say anything so a frum Jew should suffer.

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 May 31, 2016 at 06:30 AM kollelman Says:

Reply to #4  
Aron1 Says:

Could anyone imagine the uproar if this was about trying to prevent a Kentucky Fried Chicken from opening because of the type of people that tend to patronize a KFC?

+1

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 May 31, 2016 at 07:21 AM Greener Says:

It is quite clear why Rabbi Marc Schneier is so happy about this. Now he can walk to shul on shabbos with a box of Viagra pills in his pocket.

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 May 31, 2016 at 08:45 AM allmark Says:

I'm shocked at the shameless anti-frum comments. Talk about self-hating Jews. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

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 May 31, 2016 at 10:24 AM ssteinberg Says:

I can only tell you what happened in my community when a Eruv was installed. Suddenly families were going to Shul Sat.morning. Children were playing in the local parks Sat afternoon. The food business that went "kosher", experienced booming business. A sleepy suburb of Boston suddenly became alive. Our streets are clean, our crime is low- orthodox Jews dont break into homes or cars. So, I am confused, what is the down side??

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 May 31, 2016 at 10:27 AM Anonymous Says:

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allmark Says:

I'm shocked at the shameless anti-frum comments. Talk about self-hating Jews. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Look at the destruction of route 306 in monsey. It used to have single family homes of one half acre with lots of trees. Now ten thousand residents whose kids have no play space except the street.

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 May 31, 2016 at 10:34 AM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

This rabbi is a shanda with 4 or 5 wives and many affairs.

what's your point, and why is this your business?

He is a Rabbi, you are not, get over it.. you don't like it, don't go to his shul. no onew need your approval here, and no one asked for it.

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 May 31, 2016 at 10:34 AM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Will they be taking over the school board now, cutting art, music and sports and building illegal yeshivas? Look at the history in Ramapo and Lawrence. What about the beaches? Separate days for men and women?

no, they won't, and do you live there?

if not, why is this your problem?

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 May 31, 2016 at 10:35 AM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

We are terrible neighbors. Litter, not following rules, not cutting grass. Who needs this? Modesty rules to follow soon.

so if you admit that WE are the problem, what issues do you have with those who don't want frum Jews to move in?

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 May 31, 2016 at 10:37 AM Anonymous Says:

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blank space Says:

Arnold Sheiffer sounds like the self hating Jew who wants to be more goyish than the pope and will do and say anything so a frum Jew should suffer.

no, he doesn't sound like any of those things, and you apparently don't know what the definition of "self-hating Jew) means.

why don't you look it up, you ignoramus? he doesn't hate himself, he hates YOU, and with good reason.

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 May 31, 2016 at 10:39 AM Anonymous Says:

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allmark Says:

I'm shocked at the shameless anti-frum comments. Talk about self-hating Jews. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

you must have reading comprehension problems.

it is the frum commenters who are shameless and an embarrassment to Jews of every type.

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 May 31, 2016 at 11:08 AM Rational Guy Says:

Just picture 25 African american families moving into some nice quite summer home development like Twin Oaks in south fallsburg or in woodbridge. Would everyone be so happy about that? Well thats how the guys in the Hamptons feel like.

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 May 31, 2016 at 12:42 PM Anonymous Says:

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Rational Guy Says:

Just picture 25 African american families moving into some nice quite summer home development like Twin Oaks in south fallsburg or in woodbridge. Would everyone be so happy about that? Well thats how the guys in the Hamptons feel like.

African Americans don't break building codes, bus in hundreds of outside people to vote to try to win elections, don't erect illegal schools in single family houses, don't turn homes into tax free establishments, don't cover up pedophiles. Get it?

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 May 31, 2016 at 02:09 PM Anonymous Says:

Kol hakovod to all those who worked so hard to make this a reality so that heimeshe yidden have a realistic alternative to those putrid bungalow colonies in "the mountains". We can expect that many chareidi families, both Litvish and perhaps some Chassidish as well, will be heading out to the Hamptons rather than schlepping up the NY Thruway evev Shabbos.

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 May 31, 2016 at 05:08 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Kol hakovod to all those who worked so hard to make this a reality so that heimeshe yidden have a realistic alternative to those putrid bungalow colonies in "the mountains". We can expect that many chareidi families, both Litvish and perhaps some Chassidish as well, will be heading out to the Hamptons rather than schlepping up the NY Thruway evev Shabbos.

Will they need their own segregated Hampton jitneys and will they refuse to sit next to a female until the woman moves to the back of the bus?

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 Jun 01, 2016 at 11:20 AM RobertS Says:

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Anonymous Says:

African Americans don't break building codes, bus in hundreds of outside people to vote to try to win elections, don't erect illegal schools in single family houses, don't turn homes into tax free establishments, don't cover up pedophiles. Get it?

No, but maybe they break criminal codes, bus in hundreds of outside children to local public schools, erect illegal mosques in single family homes, they turn churches into tax-free profits for their wealthy pastors, and their children grow up to commit crimes. Get it?

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