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Sep 25 2008. Anti-Zionist radical group Neturei Karta joined in a counter-demonstration to protest the demonstration against Iranian President Ahmadinejad.
Six Jews were killed in the attack three weeks ago, including the two Chabad emissaries to the Indian city.
According to the article, Chabad was rightfully punished for its relations with "the filthy, deplorable traitors – the cursed Zionists that are your friends."
The writer went on to slam the Hasidic group for inviting to the emissaries' funeral "villainous heads of state who uttered words of heresy and blasphemy."
Rabbi Myers addresses the NK published by Chabad site COL
Chabad itself was imbued with "false national sentiment," the article said, and the organization's centers around the globe hosted religious Jews alongside secular ones without making any distinction "between good and evil, right and wrong, pure and impure, a Jew and a convert, a believer and a heretic."
The conclusion, according to the writer, was that "the road you (Chabad) have taken is the road of death and it leads to doom, assimilation and the uprooting of the Torah."
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:00 AM Anonymous Says:
I will not stoop as low as to judge in the same way. But before anyone jumps to high at these comments - and I am sure there will be MANY comments. Remember!! there is a heavenly court above and EVERYONE is answerable every step of life!! So as for Neturei Karta - if anyone is more pro-apartheid within klal yisroel than you are - may you receive divine justice!!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:00 AM Anonymous Says:
And why was Harav Tietelbaum punished?
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Dec 15, 2008 at 07:58 AM mier Says:
Let's all hole back and no one should comments like this
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Dec 15, 2008 at 07:58 AM shmuck Says:
Wow they should smoke the grass in Gaza !!!!!! How could those shmucks say that?
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Dec 15, 2008 at 07:57 AM chabad kugel Says:
SHAME ON U NETUREI KARTA to say such things when people got killed so horrobly. To say they did it upon themselves
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Dec 15, 2008 at 07:57 AM cp Says:
let the good times roll! what about making a distinction between real jews and TRAITORS like NK!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 07:57 AM Anonymous Says:
THose are the same people who say the HOLOCAUST never happend? Those people call themselves HOLY? Those people call themselves YIDDISH? If this is what they teach their children, the I rest my case!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:18 AM Anonymous Says:
What makes the Neturai Karta any better then muslims. Its sad that there is no way to stop them from what they think, and what they do.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:15 AM Anonymous Says:
BS"D
I was waiting to see what these reprehensible clowns would come up with. Par for the course. Refuah sheleima to whoever wrote this claptrap; it reflects no one and nothing except himself and a couple of similarly sad attention seekers (who amount to no one and nothing).
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:10 AM Anonymous Says:
Before we start attacking the writer of this article, we should keep in mind, that this nonsensical thinking has long been prevalent within certain circles. Blaming tragedies, be they of an individual nature or a more communal one, on avaira x y or z, has been going on for a very long time.This is just the latest chapter in the worn out and stupid book. The only surprising thing about the comment is that for a change the writer didnt pick on women as being exclusively to blame for 1) driving 2) wearing "shmoole gepaste klaider" 3) talking on cellphones , but otherwise ain kul chudush tachas hashemesh..................................
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:09 AM Anonymous Says:
How sad, to break the wonderful achdus that was exibited from this tragedy
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:20 AM murray Says:
In a war I am Not quite sure if I would rather be captured and taken prisoner by plo or NK...............what choices.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:10 AM Anonymous Says:
Sinat Chinam is and has always brought the downfall of the greatest things in Jewish life. I do not hate the NK for talking to the Iranians nor for saying these terrible things. What I do wonder is how they are so sure of what Hashem does or does not do and why? Where do they get the Gayva to say these things? I would rather Chabad"s Kiddush Hahem in so many ways to their Chilulay Hashem in almost all ways.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:06 AM Talmudist Says:
Interesting how the Neturei Karta slams Chabad for inviting villainous heads of state and disniguishing between good and evil when they themselves invite,embrace and give honor to our biggest Archenemy since Haman and hitler Ahmedinajad of Iran. I once reed that in the Jihadi training camps they use all sorts of brainwashing techniques, but even more important they first teach the young Jihadi trainees to avoid all critical thinking. It seems that the Neturei Karta use the same techniques on their young ones.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:03 AM Logic613 Says:
Folks, just ignore them. Let this post and these people remain insignificant, like it should. If we comment on this nonsense, then we give them the attention they seek.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:42 AM Anonymous Says:
why won't these NK islamo-nazis die already?
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:39 AM Anonymous Says:
NK are islamo fascist collaborators, no different than the Nazi collaborators. I, myself am anti-zionist by the way, but to embrace and befriend the enemy is unforgivable
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:36 AM chezkee Says:
What a Chillul The NK are. Send them to live in Iran or Gaza with their friends, and we will be rid of this problem.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 08:33 AM Anonymous Says:
why give them the time of day.there just like any other jewish hate group.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 09:15 AM Anonymous Says:
How do these anti-semites with peyos claim to know why G-d does things?
Their arrogance is surpassed only by their stupidty.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 09:11 AM Anonymous Says:
That drivel sounds just like something their new playmates in Iran, or the Neo Nazi KKK leader David Duke (who was at the phony Holocaust "studies" (read: DENIAL) conference in Tehran with so-called "Rabbi" Moshe Hirsh, Yisroel Duvid Weiss and the other so-called "leaders" of the NK) might have written. Phony Judenrat traitors and fools. When G-d tires of their noxious antics, THEY'LL GET THEIRS.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 09:09 AM Anonymous Says:
its not suprising most of the people who join neturei kartah are mentally unstable every population has a few people who are mentally insane
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Dec 15, 2008 at 09:05 AM naftule Says:
i agree with most of you , they don't deserve our time and response, but if the money they got from our enemies the iranians and friends, doesn't produce this kind of articles the nk publish . who knows they probably will ask them to return the money.
i used to live a cross the street from the nk. they always preached and yelled shpritze to all the estranged women entering the area, but if a tourist shpritze came to donate money to them. they opened all doors.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 09:28 AM JJ Says:
I think the neturei karta should be punished for their alliance with arafat and ahmadinejad.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 09:52 AM Anonymous Says:
NK, job well done! so this basically a message to your cronies to go kill lubavitchers around the world Chas Vesholom? I have no doubt that NK are Rodfim on Klal Yisroel! this is exactly what happens when you fight Zionism without listening to any Daas Torah, since you always know better. Shame on you few loosers!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:14 AM Anonymous Says:
Rabbosai, why are we answering a barking dog?
If we should be upset at anyone over this it should be the Israeli Gov't which doesn't act with enough responsibility to its citizens to handle the most basic obligations of a democraticly elected gov't - to execute its traitors.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:11 AM Anonymous Says:
Enough with these bums. We should put this group in chairim once and for all. They are a group of vermin. they make a chilul hashem on a daily basis, and curse out every yid who doesn’t believe in their twisted thinking. its funny they slander chabad. Chabad believes the exact opposite of their backwards ideology. While Chabad units every Yidishe neshama and creates achdus and ahavas yisroel, this group harbours sinah and hatred. netura karte do teshuva before its too late!!!!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:07 AM Yisroel Kuzniar Says:
Has anyone ever heard a positive thing about NK? There are so many Jews building and creating when these losers have nothing good to say about anybody, nor have they built one institution that has contributed to Klal Yisroel. Instead of critizing others, why don't they create something that helps the Klal???
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:04 AM Anonymous Says:
BEWARE!!! NK Members maybe helping the Neo Nazis & Islamo fasicts Kill Lubavicthers around the world.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:31 AM bar26 Says:
"Chabad itself was imbued with 'false national sentiment,' the article said, and the organization’s centers around the globe hosted religious Jews alongside secular ones without making any distinction 'between good and evil, right and wrong, pure and impure, a Jew and a convert, a believer and a heretic.'"
With these words NETUREI KARTA hereby CLEARLY ADMITTED THAT THEY ARE NOT JEWS, or at the very least, they are a secular group. Otherwise they wouldn't stand alongside their evil, impure non-Jewish friends.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:31 AM anonymous Says:
such a chilul hashem! i can't believe this! what must the goyim be thinking when they see how the jews fight?!?!
and i don't understand how they can say that chabad leads to assimilation, when they just do THE EXACT OPPOSITE!!! chabad makes people frum!
those naturei karta people are mad! they already dont know what they are saying!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:16 AM Anonymous Says:
I don't have any problem with them going to iran . only why did they come back !
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:15 AM J Stein Says:
We need to drive these phonies out of our commnunities, protest in front of their homes.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:52 AM bestwatchman Says:
we all agree they are insane, let's do something; the nk guy selling esroigim in monsey, don't buy them...........
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:42 AM GottaHaveEmunah Says:
We displayed a tremendous amount of ahavas yisroel by being "noiseh b'oil chavairo" after the tradegy in Mumbai. But it really wasn't that hard. We are rachmonim by nature. Now we are having a real "nisiyon". We cannot let their "message" take away our choiv to have ahavas yisroel. We don't have to debate them & surley not agree with one word of what they say. But because they're yiddin, we have no right to hate them. Klal Yisroel is made up of all types. The Rambam says it, "K'shem she'partzufeihem etc." Hate the message, not the messenger
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Dec 15, 2008 at 11:32 AM sad Says:
It's so sad that klal yisroel has a group like neturei karta who stand for nothing true! They are just a bunch of maniacs causing trouble for no reason and this is how they spend their lives!!! Why don't you all learn, visit the sick, help a friend, raise money for the poor, get a job... like get busy doing important things!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 10:38 AM power up Says:
LETS JUST BE CLEAR, this is the danger of extremisem, the same thing that happened to orthodox jews who went the extreme way with supporting zionizem, (the aguda was founded to be a barrier and a power of counter not partners) the same thing happened with NK , they are out of touch and off message. and they sound awefull making such statements, they dont even realize what there saying, there just pulling the oppesite way
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Dec 15, 2008 at 11:57 AM Satmar Chusid Says:
Neturei Karta are far worse than todays Zionists. They think they can protect themselves by sucking up to the modern day hitlers in Iran. This is Kefira. Absolutely no Emuna.
They claim there shita is based on the 3 oaths in Talmus Kesubos but they trample on 2 of them daily. They befriend Iran against the wishes of all western governments. They say Israel belongs to the Palestinians.
These people speak in microphones on Shabbos and as the Satmar Rebbe ZY"O said they are a danger to kllal yisroel.
They do not accept any Daas Torah only from Moshe Ber Beck YM"Sh who has had mental problems since being a bochur in Viznitz.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 11:52 AM SHMIEL Says:
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOME RELIGIOUS GROUPS TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TO HATE OTHERS WHO ARENT LIKE THEM THEESE NETUREIS ARE TOTTALLY OUT OF THEIR MINDS THEY BELONG IN AN INSANE ASYLEM DESPICABLE REPUGNANT FOOLS
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Dec 15, 2008 at 12:05 PM Anonymous Says:
these crazy neturi karta sound like taliban lunatics.. and they probably are the same 'brothers'... remember Eisav and Ya'acov were brothers too.. and Eisav probably wore the same style of clothing as Ya'acov Aveinu.. that they were hard to tell apart in their 'orthodoxy'... let's face it each nation has there 'waste' matter and the orthodox community is no different... they are called netura karta... and are filled with hate for the israel nation like all the nazis and terroritst were and will be till HaShem sends us the final Yeshua.. amen
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Dec 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM Zalman Says:
Why mention these misfits. They do not even have 10 people over 30. And they are all sick dysfunctional people who get money from Iran.
Withour publicity these Reshoim have nothing.
Those 2 clowns Weiss and Friedman should get into comedy.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 11:48 AM Anonymous Says:
Yad Hachisidim HaelYonah.
NK are NOT Chasidim
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Dec 15, 2008 at 12:17 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Wow they should smoke the grass in Gaza !!!!!! How could those shmucks say that? ”
even if the smoked the grass
in gaza they would still be the same and maybe even worse, if that's possible
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Dec 15, 2008 at 12:37 PM Anonymous Says:
I don't understand why a "movement" with only a handfull of members who are mostly clear nutcases desrves such widespread interest & free publicity they could never get on thier own.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 12:54 PM Anonymous Says:
Had there been a Netura Karta community living in Mumbai- they would have been killed. These people are not Jews. Jewish people do not think and act the way Netura Karta is - what a disgrace. Publishing what they say is wrong- they shouldn't be given a voice in ANY publication (certainly a Jewish one). Hashem should punish every last one of them.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 12:19 PM Anonymous Says:
How come after a week after Jews around the world unite as one, these Rashaim are no better then Amalak trying to destroy Yiddishkayt. I have a hard time believing these people are really jews.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 12:18 PM NK- Not Kosher Says:
They are not even Neturei Karta. Rav Domb from England and Neturei Karta in Yerushalayim publicly disowned them and said these American Shkutzim cannot use the name Neturei Karta which was founded by sane erlicher yidden not media hungry baal Taivos like these few American Lunatics, who fraudently claim in Iran they represent most frum jews.
When the Satmar Rebbe Reb Yoilish put them into cherem he knew what he was doing.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 12:58 PM bigwheeel Says:
“ I will not stoop as low as to judge in the same way. But before anyone jumps to high at these comments - and I am sure there will be MANY comments. Remember!! there is a heavenly court above and EVERYONE is answerable every step of life!! So as for Neturei Karta - if anyone is more pro-apartheid within klal yisroel than you are - may you receive divine justice!! ”
Rest assured, they will! A political rally, or meeting ahmadinejad, as bad as it is. It can still be tolerated --if not justified-- on some level! But desecrating the memory of the Kedoshim, is just too much!! They --and the rest of their vicious comrades-- have just taken themselves out of Klal Yisroel. Beside their ignorance. Those vicious morons aren't even aware that this tradition in Chabad of establishing outposts of Yiddishkeit with Mesiras Nefesh in faraway places dates back to the Maharsha"b Zy"a and his son the Mahar Yat"z Zy"a!!! The only thing that can be said about the Rabbi Holtzberg and his Rebbitzin Hy"d, that they would have welcomed even those vicious "Chayes" into their House! Treating them to a comfort b'gashmiyus and Ruchnyius that they don't deserve!!!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 01:20 PM VIN CRITIC Says:
VIN you allow Jews to post hate filled messages about NK but refuse to let the voice of those who support NK or the very least suggest that what they say should be debated NOT ridiculed as though they were am haaretz goys. Why are you afraid to let the other side be heard? Why do you silence free speech? You allow the hate speech against NK on your blog but dont allow anyone to stand up and defend NK against this. SHAME ON YOU!!!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 01:13 PM Anonymous Says:
I don't understand why a "movement" with only a handfull of members who are mostly clear nutcases desrves such widespread interest & free publicity they could never get on thier own.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 12:10 PM Lokshon Says:
Neturei Karta know why Hashem does what?
Could they explain the exact reason for all our tzoros prior to Zionism.
Also why was Beck punished that he lost his mother at a very young age?
It is great that we have someone who knows exactly the reasons why Hashem does everything. I still do not get it why a Bobover and Satmarer were killed.
Am I missing something?
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Dec 15, 2008 at 01:46 PM Milhouse Says:
How sad. How far these people have come from the derech of R Amrom Bloi, z"l.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 01:44 PM Anonymous Says:
To Lokshon: It can be argued that as long as Chabad is going to take an aggressive stand on behalf of the State of Israel, it puts its own people, and all haredi-looking people at risk. Therefore, anyone affiliating with Chabad is putting himself at risk as well. Plus, can you really imagine any anti-Zionist visiting a Chabad center knowing the history? Something doesn't make sense in this story about Leibush Teitelbaum!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 01:31 PM chaim Says:
why is everyone suprised and shocked at what these idiots said ?
after all ,just look up what the satmarer rebbi z'l [reb joilish] writes in his sefer vayoel moishe' he writes that there is no doubt in his mind about the reason for the death of the six million jews during the holocaust,that it was a punishment for the sin of zionism.
well if thats the case,that g-d decided to kill six million for the sin of zionism,
then why be suprised if he added another five jews to that number?
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Dec 15, 2008 at 02:12 PM Grandpajoe Says:
We do not need the goyishe velt to destroy us we can do a great job by ourselves. To even write and compare such things is terrible.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 04:32 PM Montrealer says: Protest with your $$$ Says:
Friends,
Let us take a lesson from Martin Luther King and history! A boycott that he and his associates organized against the Birmingham Alabama transit system, protesting unfair segregation on the bus system, brought the city to its knees and an end to that practice.
Do the same to these NK (and similar) creeps. Think of the tzedokoh solicitations which you regularly receive and you may find that many of these co-religionists depend on our tzedokoh goodwill for their livlihood and for the existence of their yeshivas and other institutions. Declare your indignation to their repulsive attitudes and remarks with your economic clout and your wallets! Refuse to financially support these and/or anyone else who is sympathetic with their delirious points-of-view! Don't send even one kopek to this or any other Jewish group who spews hatred and seeks to divide us, especially at such a time of tragedy.
If we act together and instead decide to divert our tzedokoh money to more worthy and respectable beneficiaries, the NK and the like will certainly learn to appreciate and understand the impact and reach of their word and actions. They may not change their attitudes, but we might at least prevent such groups and their cohorts from bombarding us in public with their ludicrous and embarrassing remarks.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 04:51 PM Anonymous Says:
“ How sad. How far these people have come from the derech of R Amrom Bloi, z"l. ”
Or perhaps they are the logical outcome of his blind and blinding hatred for Zionism.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 05:42 PM Anonymous Says:
who sopports these nuts?
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Dec 15, 2008 at 06:22 PM Monroe Yid Says:
53 Today at 01:44 PM
Anonymous Says: To Lokshon: It can be argued that as long as Chabad is going to take an aggressive stand on behalf of the State of Israel, it puts its own people, and all haredi-looking people at risk.
This is plain apikorsas! Do you not believe it is Hashem who decides what happens for reasons unknown to mankind, rather than the biased morons of Neturei Karta. The muslim Reshoim really cared of what chabad stands for. The NK can follow Yishmuel I will follow our Torah and our Tzzadikim.
How come not one Tzzadik mentioned this rubbish when they gave Hespedim on Reb Leibish Teitelbaum and the other Kedoshim. Normal Rabbonim like Reb Aron of Satmar, The Nikosburger etc can be heard on the net. They learnt in Satmar not like the baal Tshiva Weiss of NK. who just loves being in Tarivos and on the TV.
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Dec 15, 2008 at 04:42 PM chabad neturei kartanik Says:
as a follower of the lubavitcher Rebbe who was a fierce anti zionist himself (when "hachoma" - the journal of neturei karta would come to 770 the rayatz would tell the Rebbe "dos is far dir" this is for you -since it was known that this son in law is much more extreme in his anti zionism whichhe did not relent with all his support of jews in israel through the years as most lubavitchers are aware of his public statements many times.
STOP DEFAMING NK !!! R' Amram bloy was A OHEV YISROEL!!!
these clowns are NOT NK!!!!
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Dec 15, 2008 at 07:12 PM Doc from Lawrence Says:
“ To Lokshon: It can be argued that as long as Chabad is going to take an aggressive stand on behalf of the State of Israel, it puts its own people, and all haredi-looking people at risk. Therefore, anyone affiliating with Chabad is putting himself at risk as well. Plus, can you really imagine any anti-Zionist visiting a Chabad center knowing the history? Something doesn't make sense in this story about Leibush Teitelbaum! ”
as a non-chussid, Chabad Houses are not places that take an "aggressive Zionist stand" They are places where any Jew can feel a little bit of warmth in a cold non-Jewish world. Rav Teitelbaum found the Chabad House to chap a Mincha, sit with some fellow yidden and get away from the stupid non-Jewish world of Mumbai. In my travels, I so much look forward to finding a Chabad House, just to find a little heimishe talk, some good food and a friendly face. May they all be blessed
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Dec 15, 2008 at 06:52 PM Satmar Chusid Says:
As the Satmar Rebbe ZY"O taught us that people act us their funders expect. As long as the NK get money from anti semitic regimes they will be anti semitic. It is well known that the pay masters in Teheran and Gaza control the american Neturei Karta.
How come the nutcase Hircsh (The one Arafat used to finance) has not been heard of for some time?
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Dec 15, 2008 at 09:25 PM Anonymous Says:
“ 53 Today at 01:44 PM
Anonymous Says: To Lokshon: It can be argued that as long as Chabad is going to take an aggressive stand on behalf of the State of Israel, it puts its own people, and all haredi-looking people at risk.
This is plain apikorsas! Do you not believe it is Hashem who decides what happens for reasons unknown to mankind, rather than the biased morons of Neturei Karta. The muslim Reshoim really cared of what chabad stands for. The NK can follow Yishmuel I will follow our Torah and our Tzzadikim.
How come not one Tzzadik mentioned this rubbish when they gave Hespedim on Reb Leibish Teitelbaum and the other Kedoshim. Normal Rabbonim like Reb Aron of Satmar, The Nikosburger etc can be heard on the net. They learnt in Satmar not like the baal Tshiva Weiss of NK. who just loves being in Tarivos and on the TV. ”
Someone hasn't learned the Rambam.
The comments to which you responded might be many things but apikorsus it isn't.
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Dec 16, 2008 at 12:34 AM contented cows Says:
“ What a Chillul The NK are. Send them to live in Iran or Gaza with their friends, and we will be rid of this problem. ”
put them out to pasture on a steady diet of grass. They can graze to their heart's content with the other Gazans.
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Dec 16, 2008 at 12:25 AM self control Says:
How the writer could simply ignore that Reb Liebish and Reb Benzion HY'D were hardly Zionim and were not Chbadnikim yet they were murdered just as if they were ModOx knitted Kipa Zioni rabbis. The Kedoshim of Mumbai died al pi kiddush Hashem and were murdered because they were yidden not Zionim
to think otherwise is a possible pathetic plea for attention/help.
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Dec 16, 2008 at 02:15 AM Miss Williamsburg Says:
“ why is everyone suprised and shocked at what these idiots said ?
after all ,just look up what the satmarer rebbi z'l [reb joilish] writes in his sefer vayoel moishe' he writes that there is no doubt in his mind about the reason for the death of the six million jews during the holocaust,that it was a punishment for the sin of zionism.
well if thats the case,that g-d decided to kill six million for the sin of zionism,
then why be suprised if he added another five jews to that number?
”
How can you mention the Satmar Rebbe's name in conjunction with the NK's when he was so against them?
If you are intending to affiliate NK in any way with Satmar then you are doing the NK's the biggest favor and simultaneously to Satmar the biggest injustice.
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Dec 16, 2008 at 01:59 AM Stanford Hill Says:
#64 "Someone hasn't learned the Rambam.The comments to which you responded might be many things but apikorsus it isn't."
The Neturei Karta claim that the Muslim terrorists killed the kedoshim in Mumbai due to the actions of Chabad being so called Zionists. This is putting a logical reason (mind you- a very twisted one!) for what occured in India. Anyone whjo believes this rather than this was a gezeroi from HKB"H seems to me an appikoyrus. Please direct me to the Rambam you refer to!.
The Gezeiro of Auschwitz was something no normal person can understand. The Satmar Rov claimed that the Ribono shel olam made this terrible gezeiro due to the zionist entity. Most other Gedolim including Reb Aaron from Belz and many many others said we need to do teshuva as when anything bad happens to kllal Yisroel but chollola to try to understand what Hashems cheshbonos are.
But what NK are trying to do is impress the Iranian Reshoim to spare them. Isn't this a clear lack of emunah??
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Dec 16, 2008 at 07:38 PM Lipa Says:
Stanford Hill is 100% right.
But just the simple fact that Beck, Weis and the other clowns follow their islamic paymasters rather than Daas Torah is enough reason to call them APIKORSIM.
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Dec 16, 2008 at 08:14 PM Dovid Says:
Just as it is wrong to explain why Hashem made the holocust so to it is wrong to explain why Hashem caused these Kedoshim to die ,regaurdless of who they are
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Jan 07, 2009 at 03:09 PM Anonymous Says:
I think it about time we stopped saying that NK should be ignored. Their voice is too strong and dangerous in the press for us to ignore them.
Here in the UK antisemitic attacks have suddenly risen in number as a direct result of the Israeli incursion into Gaza.These Resho-im are helping to stir public opinion against their fellow Jews living in the UK, such opinion resulting in attacks etc, and as such are Rodfim?
I propose instead of ignoring them we should beat the hell out of them. Habo lehorgecho...