Israel – Neturei Karta: Chabad Punished for Alliance with Zionists

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    Sep 25 2008. Anti-Zionist radical group Neturei Karta joined in a counter-demonstration to protest the demonstration against Iranian President Ahmadinejad.Israel – An article published this weekend in a leaflet distributed by anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox stream Neturei Karta asserted that the terror attack on the Chabad House in Mumbai was a punishment from God for the organization’s collaboration with Zionist Israelis.

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    Six Jews were killed in the attack three weeks ago, including the two Chabad emissaries to the Indian city.

    According to the article, Chabad was rightfully punished for its relations with “the filthy, deplorable traitors – the cursed Zionists that are your friends.”

    The writer went on to slam the Hasidic group for inviting to the emissaries’ funeral “villainous heads of state who uttered words of heresy and blasphemy.”
    Rabbi Myers addresses the NK published by Chabad site COL
    Chabad itself was imbued with “false national sentiment,” the article said, and the organization’s centers around the globe hosted religious Jews alongside secular ones without making any distinction “between good and evil, right and wrong, pure and impure, a Jew and a convert, a believer and a heretic.”

    The conclusion, according to the writer, was that “the road you (Chabad) have taken is the road of death and it leads to doom, assimilation and the uprooting of the Torah.”


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    THose are the same people who say the HOLOCAUST never happend? Those people call themselves HOLY? Those people call themselves YIDDISH? If this is what they teach their children, the I rest my case!

    cp
    cp
    15 years ago

    let the good times roll! what about making a distinction between real jews and TRAITORS like NK!

    chabad kugel
    chabad kugel
    15 years ago

    SHAME ON U NETUREI KARTA to say such things when people got killed so horrobly. To say they did it upon themselves

    shmuck
    shmuck
    15 years ago

    Wow they should smoke the grass in Gaza !!!!!! How could those shmucks say that?

    mier
    mier
    15 years ago

    Let’s all hole back and no one should comments like this

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    And why was Harav Tietelbaum punished?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    I will not stoop as low as to judge in the same way. But before anyone jumps to high at these comments – and I am sure there will be MANY comments. Remember!! there is a heavenly court above and EVERYONE is answerable every step of life!! So as for Neturei Karta – if anyone is more pro-apartheid within klal yisroel than you are – may you receive divine justice!!

    Logic613
    Logic613
    15 years ago

    Folks, just ignore them. Let this post and these people remain insignificant, like it should. If we comment on this nonsense, then we give them the attention they seek.

    Talmudist
    Talmudist
    15 years ago

    Interesting how the Neturei Karta slams Chabad for inviting villainous heads of state and disniguishing between good and evil when they themselves invite,embrace and give honor to our biggest Archenemy since Haman and hitler Ahmedinajad of Iran. I once reed that in the Jihadi training camps they use all sorts of brainwashing techniques, but even more important they first teach the young Jihadi trainees to avoid all critical thinking. It seems that the Neturei Karta use the same techniques on their young ones.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    How sad, to break the wonderful achdus that was exibited from this tragedy

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Sinat Chinam is and has always brought the downfall of the greatest things in Jewish life. I do not hate the NK for talking to the Iranians nor for saying these terrible things. What I do wonder is how they are so sure of what Hashem does or does not do and why? Where do they get the Gayva to say these things? I would rather Chabad”s Kiddush Hahem in so many ways to their Chilulay Hashem in almost all ways.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Before we start attacking the writer of this article, we should keep in mind, that this nonsensical thinking has long been prevalent within certain circles. Blaming tragedies, be they of an individual nature or a more communal one, on avaira x y or z, has been going on for a very long time.This is just the latest chapter in the worn out and stupid book. The only surprising thing about the comment is that for a change the writer didnt pick on women as being exclusively to blame for 1) driving 2) wearing “shmoole gepaste klaider” 3) talking on cellphones , but otherwise ain kul chudush tachas hashemesh…………………………….

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    BS”D

    I was waiting to see what these reprehensible clowns would come up with. Par for the course. Refuah sheleima to whoever wrote this claptrap; it reflects no one and nothing except himself and a couple of similarly sad attention seekers (who amount to no one and nothing).

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    What makes the Neturai Karta any better then muslims. Its sad that there is no way to stop them from what they think, and what they do.

    murray
    murray
    15 years ago

    In a war I am Not quite sure if I would rather be captured and taken prisoner by plo or NK……………what choices.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    why give them the time of day.there just like any other jewish hate group.

    chezkee
    chezkee
    15 years ago

    What a Chillul The NK are. Send them to live in Iran or Gaza with their friends, and we will be rid of this problem.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    NK are islamo fascist collaborators, no different than the Nazi collaborators. I, myself am anti-zionist by the way, but to embrace and befriend the enemy is unforgivable

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    why won’t these NK islamo-nazis die already?

    naftule
    naftule
    15 years ago

    i agree with most of you , they don’t deserve our time and response, but if the money they got from our enemies the iranians and friends, doesn’t produce this kind of articles the nk publish . who knows they probably will ask them to return the money.
    i used to live a cross the street from the nk. they always preached and yelled shpritze to all the estranged women entering the area, but if a tourist shpritze came to donate money to them. they opened all doors.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    its not suprising most of the people who join neturei kartah are mentally unstable every population has a few people who are mentally insane

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    That drivel sounds just like something their new playmates in Iran, or the Neo Nazi KKK leader David Duke (who was at the phony Holocaust “studies” (read: DENIAL) conference in Tehran with so-called “Rabbi” Moshe Hirsh, Yisroel Duvid Weiss and the other so-called “leaders” of the NK) might have written. Phony Judenrat traitors and fools. When G-d tires of their noxious antics, THEY’LL GET THEIRS.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    How do these anti-semites with peyos claim to know why G-d does things?

    Their arrogance is surpassed only by their stupidty.

    JJ
    JJ
    15 years ago

    I think the neturei karta should be punished for their alliance with arafat and ahmadinejad.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    NK, job well done! so this basically a message to your cronies to go kill lubavitchers around the world Chas Vesholom? I have no doubt that NK are Rodfim on Klal Yisroel! this is exactly what happens when you fight Zionism without listening to any Daas Torah, since you always know better. Shame on you few loosers!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    BEWARE!!! NK Members maybe helping the Neo Nazis & Islamo fasicts Kill Lubavicthers around the world.

    Yisroel Kuzniar
    Yisroel Kuzniar
    15 years ago

    Has anyone ever heard a positive thing about NK? There are so many Jews building and creating when these losers have nothing good to say about anybody, nor have they built one institution that has contributed to Klal Yisroel. Instead of critizing others, why don’t they create something that helps the Klal???

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Enough with these bums. We should put this group in chairim once and for all. They are a group of vermin. they make a chilul hashem on a daily basis, and curse out every yid who doesn’t believe in their twisted thinking. its funny they slander chabad. Chabad believes the exact opposite of their backwards ideology. While Chabad units every Yidishe neshama and creates achdus and ahavas yisroel, this group harbours sinah and hatred. netura karte do teshuva before its too late!!!!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Rabbosai, why are we answering a barking dog?

    If we should be upset at anyone over this it should be the Israeli Gov’t which doesn’t act with enough responsibility to its citizens to handle the most basic obligations of a democraticly elected gov’t – to execute its traitors.

    J Stein
    J Stein
    15 years ago

    We need to drive these phonies out of our commnunities, protest in front of their homes.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    I don’t have any problem with them going to iran . only why did they come back !

    anonymous
    anonymous
    15 years ago

    such a chilul hashem! i can’t believe this! what must the goyim be thinking when they see how the jews fight?!?!
    and i don’t understand how they can say that chabad leads to assimilation, when they just do THE EXACT OPPOSITE!!! chabad makes people frum!
    those naturei karta people are mad! they already dont know what they are saying!

    bar26
    bar26
    15 years ago

    “Chabad itself was imbued with ‘false national sentiment,’ the article said, and the organization’s centers around the globe hosted religious Jews alongside secular ones without making any distinction ‘between good and evil, right and wrong, pure and impure, a Jew and a convert, a believer and a heretic.'”

    With these words NETUREI KARTA hereby CLEARLY ADMITTED THAT THEY ARE NOT JEWS, or at the very least, they are a secular group. Otherwise they wouldn’t stand alongside their evil, impure non-Jewish friends.

    power up
    power up
    15 years ago

    LETS JUST BE CLEAR, this is the danger of extremisem, the same thing that happened to orthodox jews who went the extreme way with supporting zionizem, (the aguda was founded to be a barrier and a power of counter not partners) the same thing happened with NK , they are out of touch and off message. and they sound awefull making such statements, they dont even realize what there saying, there just pulling the oppesite way

    GottaHaveEmunah
    GottaHaveEmunah
    15 years ago

    We displayed a tremendous amount of ahavas yisroel by being “noiseh b’oil chavairo” after the tradegy in Mumbai. But it really wasn’t that hard. We are rachmonim by nature. Now we are having a real “nisiyon”. We cannot let their “message” take away our choiv to have ahavas yisroel. We don’t have to debate them & surley not agree with one word of what they say. But because they’re yiddin, we have no right to hate them. Klal Yisroel is made up of all types. The Rambam says it, “K’shem she’partzufeihem etc.” Hate the message, not the messenger

    bestwatchman
    bestwatchman
    15 years ago

    we all agree they are insane, let’s do something; the nk guy selling esroigim in monsey, don’t buy them………..

    sad
    sad
    15 years ago

    It’s so sad that klal yisroel has a group like neturei karta who stand for nothing true! They are just a bunch of maniacs causing trouble for no reason and this is how they spend their lives!!! Why don’t you all learn, visit the sick, help a friend, raise money for the poor, get a job… like get busy doing important things!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Yad Hachisidim HaelYonah.
    NK are NOT Chasidim

    SHMIEL
    SHMIEL
    15 years ago

    THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOME RELIGIOUS GROUPS TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TO HATE OTHERS WHO ARENT LIKE THEM THEESE NETUREIS ARE TOTTALLY OUT OF THEIR MINDS THEY BELONG IN AN INSANE ASYLEM DESPICABLE REPUGNANT FOOLS

    Satmar Chusid
    Satmar Chusid
    15 years ago

    Neturei Karta are far worse than todays Zionists. They think they can protect themselves by sucking up to the modern day hitlers in Iran. This is Kefira. Absolutely no Emuna.
    They claim there shita is based on the 3 oaths in Talmus Kesubos but they trample on 2 of them daily. They befriend Iran against the wishes of all western governments. They say Israel belongs to the Palestinians.
    These people speak in microphones on Shabbos and as the Satmar Rebbe ZY”O said they are a danger to kllal yisroel.
    They do not accept any Daas Torah only from Moshe Ber Beck YM”Sh who has had mental problems since being a bochur in Viznitz.

    Zalman
    Zalman
    15 years ago

    Why mention these misfits. They do not even have 10 people over 30. And they are all sick dysfunctional people who get money from Iran.
    Withour publicity these Reshoim have nothing.
    Those 2 clowns Weiss and Friedman should get into comedy.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    these crazy neturi karta sound like taliban lunatics.. and they probably are the same ‘brothers’… remember Eisav and Ya’acov were brothers too.. and Eisav probably wore the same style of clothing as Ya’acov Aveinu.. that they were hard to tell apart in their ‘orthodoxy’… let’s face it each nation has there ‘waste’ matter and the orthodox community is no different… they are called netura karta… and are filled with hate for the israel nation like all the nazis and terroritst were and will be till HaShem sends us the final Yeshua.. amen

    Lokshon
    Lokshon
    15 years ago

    Neturei Karta know why Hashem does what?
    Could they explain the exact reason for all our tzoros prior to Zionism.
    Also why was Beck punished that he lost his mother at a very young age?

    It is great that we have someone who knows exactly the reasons why Hashem does everything. I still do not get it why a Bobover and Satmarer were killed.
    Am I missing something?

    NK- Not Kosher
    NK- Not Kosher
    15 years ago

    They are not even Neturei Karta. Rav Domb from England and Neturei Karta in Yerushalayim publicly disowned them and said these American Shkutzim cannot use the name Neturei Karta which was founded by sane erlicher yidden not media hungry baal Taivos like these few American Lunatics, who fraudently claim in Iran they represent most frum jews.
    When the Satmar Rebbe Reb Yoilish put them into cherem he knew what he was doing.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    How come after a week after Jews around the world unite as one, these Rashaim are no better then Amalak trying to destroy Yiddishkayt. I have a hard time believing these people are really jews.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    I don’t understand why a “movement” with only a handfull of members who are mostly clear nutcases desrves such widespread interest & free publicity they could never get on thier own.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    Had there been a Netura Karta community living in Mumbai- they would have been killed. These people are not Jews. Jewish people do not think and act the way Netura Karta is – what a disgrace. Publishing what they say is wrong- they shouldn’t be given a voice in ANY publication (certainly a Jewish one). Hashem should punish every last one of them.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    15 years ago

    I don’t understand why a “movement” with only a handfull of members who are mostly clear nutcases desrves such widespread interest & free publicity they could never get on thier own.

    VIN CRITIC
    VIN CRITIC
    15 years ago

    VIN you allow Jews to post hate filled messages about NK but refuse to let the voice of those who support NK or the very least suggest that what they say should be debated NOT ridiculed as though they were am haaretz goys. Why are you afraid to let the other side be heard? Why do you silence free speech? You allow the hate speech against NK on your blog but dont allow anyone to stand up and defend NK against this. SHAME ON YOU!!!

    chaim
    chaim
    15 years ago

    why is everyone suprised and shocked at what these idiots said ?
    after all ,just look up what the satmarer rebbi z’l [reb joilish] writes in his sefer vayoel moishe’ he writes that there is no doubt in his mind about the reason for the death of the six million jews during the holocaust,that it was a punishment for the sin of zionism.
    well if thats the case,that g-d decided to kill six million for the sin of zionism,
    then why be suprised if he added another five jews to that number?