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Brooklyn, NY - Shauly Grossman didn’t plan on being an Internet rock star.

But that is exactly what happened to the 21-year-old self-identified Sanzer Hasid when a satirical song he recorded poking fun at the allegedly rock-star-like lifestyles of some Hasidic rebbes resurfaced as a hotly debated video on YouTube.

Grossman’s song, set to the tune of “Rockstar” by the popular band Nickelback, focuses on the alleged proclivities of some leaders of Hasidic sects — from lavish houses to expensive clothes.

to listen to the song click below

“I want a private caretaker with three attendants to make place and to scat away the crazies, and if necessary to bring me a tray of beer,” Grossman sings in a distinctly Hasidic mix of Yiddish and English. “I want to open charity boxes with no alarm, and a private mikveh that’s always warm, with a Jacuzzi right near my indoor pool.”

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Despite the biting lyrics, Grossman says the song was not meant as an attack on rabbinic authority in general.

“It was just a phenomenon that we sometimes see, meaning that there is a certain percent of rebbes who aren’t doing what they’re supposed to do and are just doing it for… the fame and the money and stuff,” Grossman, who lives in the heavily Orthodox town of Monsey, N.Y., told the Forward. “I didn’t make it specifically against anybody.”

But the video — which has circulated on the Internet for several weeks under the title, “I Want To Be a Rebbe” — juxtaposes Grossman’s song with images of widely known rebbes. Grossman said he does not know who created the video, explaining that he recorded the song a year ago and that it was not intended for public consumption.

Even so, the video and Grossman’s lyrics have stirred up a fierce debate on blogs frequented by ultra-Orthodox Jews — a population better known for reverence for rabbinic authority than for irreverent song-writing.

One commenter on the Orthodox blog Chaptzem wrote: “you gotta see the funny side of this version!” Another responded: “In the name of humor, one can compose and sing such a disrespecful [sic] song, and we have people here who actually think it is funny. How tragic.” Still another called the song “despicable.”

Grossman, for his part, sent a public apology to Chaptzem. “I’m sorry if I offended anybody,” he wrote. “It was meant for my own private fun.”

LIFESTYLES OF THE RICH AND RABBINICAL: A song by popular Orthodox singer Shauly Grossman spoofing unnamed rabbis sparked a furor after it was put on YouTube with visuals of identifiable Hasidic leaders.LIFESTYLES OF THE RICH AND RABBINICAL: A song by popular Orthodox singer Shauly Grossman spoofing unnamed rabbis sparked a furor after it was put on YouTube with visuals of identifiable Hasidic leaders.

Fans of the song describe it as a witty critique of the shift from an older generation of Hasidic rebbes, who were held in great esteem, to a new generation, some of whom inherited their positions without first earning respect and trust.

“It’s a community where there are some rabbis universally acknowledged among the masses that they don’t view them as deserving of being a rabbi,” said the author of a leading Orthodox music blog, BloginDM, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Rabbi Avi Shafran, director of public affairs for the ultra-Orthodox organization Agudath Israel of America, however, was not amused.

“He’s immensely talented, the singer and the writer,” Shafran said, but “impressive in a technical sense, not in a moral one.”

“I certainly know that some of the people I recognized in the video live selfless and austere lives and for all I know, all of them do,” he said.

The brouhaha over Grossman’s song comes amid wider controversy over the infiltration of contemporary music into the ultra-Orthodox world. Earlier this year, a planned charity concert in New York featuring popular Hasidic singer Lipa Schmeltzer was canceled following a decree from a number of leading ultra-Orthodox rabbis. The concert, the rabbis warned, was likely to cause “ribaldry and light-headedness.” Grossman, incidentally, wrote the title track on Schmeltzer’s latest album.

The debate over the video also highlights the growing significance of the Internet in the ultra-Orthodox world. While some ultra-Orthodox leaders have attempted to limit Internet use among their followers, the Web has nevertheless emerged as an outlet for discontent.

“The people who are talking about it in the blogosphere, some of them are probably alienated and marginalized and of course in the blogosphere, you can say whatever you want because nobody knows who you are,” said City University of New York sociologist Samuel Heilman, author of a scholarly book on ultra-Orthodox Jewry.

Communal critics, though, have no monopoly on the Internet. The “I Want to Be a Rebbe” video has been removed repeatedly from YouTube as a result of complaints alleging copyright violations, including one filed under the name “Chofetz Chaim” — the renowned Orthodox sage who died in 1933. The video was re-posted on December 1, tallying nearly 2,000 views in 17 days.


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1

 Dec 19, 2008 at 09:51 AM nebech Says:

I hope your sanzer rebbe is really proud of you

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 09:55 AM Anonymous Says:

VIN PLS TAKE THIS SHMUTZ ARTICLE OFF!! ITS DISRESPECTFULL AND OFFENSIVE TO ALL OF US ,YOURE SUPPORTERS TO POST SUCH HEADLINE ARTICLES OF SOME SCREWED UP LOWLIFE BUM FROM MONSEY!!!!!

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 09:54 AM Anonymous Says:

its great and so true the SOME rabbis today got took there position as rabbi cause there father was righteous that doent make them qualify

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:03 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
nebech Says:

I hope your sanzer rebbe is really proud of you

I think its great. The problem is everything thats said is true, and sometime the truth hurts. However not every thing thats said is meant for each and every body. Everyone has a little bit of poking done at them and its funny to see through it.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM Suri Says:

This so so funny,I love it

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM JoeFlix Says:

What's interesting about this guy is not what he likes (and has all the time in the world) to discuss -Lipa, Shauli Grossman, Sheitels, Big Event etc- but the stuff he does NOT like to discuss or address.

And to the song, its nothing new - all chasidish badchonim (Yankel Miller, Yoli Lebowitz, Velvel Goldshtein, and the great Hilly Hill) have used the "Rebbe" spoof for years and years now - but the YouTube video put faces to it - that's a shame, cause it gives the wrong message.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:04 AM Anonymous Says:

just because some rebbe's don't deserve to be rebbes doesnt mean that you should publish this shmutz from that anti-semitic paper "the forward"

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 09:59 AM tzanz Says:

actualy his rebbe is his reason for his song

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:05 AM Anonymous Says:

nothing to be proud of....

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:10 AM nigun maven Says:

Great music and words. I never was aware of ths before. There is a lot of truth in these words. Some of the BP rebbis live a lavish lifestyle while their chassidim live like shnorrers. This obscenity must be stopped and this is the perfect vehicle to accomplish that. Kudos Shauly Grossman.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:14 AM every frum yid Says:

Even though many rebbes deserve is and caused a song/video like this to be produced.

We: frum yiddin should have a major problem with this because;
First of all i can understans that VIN Post only the Audio and not the video some bad parts in it.
#2 true there are some rabbis are no good but Torah is transmited via the gedolim the poskim and talmidei chachumim (call it Torah shebaal peh or the mesorah) when we poke fun at rebbes Many of us or of our children surly mistake that with poking fun at real gedolim, Poskim, Talmidei chachumim. and therefore the gemara in sanhedrin and other places state that anyone poking fun at rabbis is an apikores.
with out the mesorah or torah shebaal peh we dont even have the Alef Bet right (See Meseches brachos with the story of hillel and the ger)
What a shame that today very few undestand the problem of this. and no one stands up against apikerses like this

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:30 AM yankel Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

VIN PLS TAKE THIS SHMUTZ ARTICLE OFF!! ITS DISRESPECTFULL AND OFFENSIVE TO ALL OF US ,YOURE SUPPORTERS TO POST SUCH HEADLINE ARTICLES OF SOME SCREWED UP LOWLIFE BUM FROM MONSEY!!!!!

please!!! no one is happy with 100% of the news, but evreyone is happy that 100% of the news is being reported, told tell VIN what to do, if you dont like what they post ,close your eyes..

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:24 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

VIN PLS TAKE THIS SHMUTZ ARTICLE OFF!! ITS DISRESPECTFULL AND OFFENSIVE TO ALL OF US ,YOURE SUPPORTERS TO POST SUCH HEADLINE ARTICLES OF SOME SCREWED UP LOWLIFE BUM FROM MONSEY!!!!!

My dear friend, if your goal in lift is knowing the truth - and the only way is information, so are you complaining? We have to knew our community the good and the not so so also, BTWW I am vary thankful for VIN, because I Grow up in a community with only one newspaper who selected the news even for adults....

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:53 AM Anonymous Says:

please come out with some more stuf like that

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:53 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

VIN PLS TAKE THIS SHMUTZ ARTICLE OFF!! ITS DISRESPECTFULL AND OFFENSIVE TO ALL OF US ,YOURE SUPPORTERS TO POST SUCH HEADLINE ARTICLES OF SOME SCREWED UP LOWLIFE BUM FROM MONSEY!!!!!

dont browse the internet if u dont like what you see!

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:51 AM Anonymous Says:

Excellent voice...Excellent diction...good production value...

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:48 AM EMES Says:

it's a bitter EMES theý have whatever they want the biggest luxury winter - florida, hotsprings summer - catskill a few times a year israel , europe ,etc .. chufferd cadilacs - lavish wedding every child a paid up condo with all luxeries and what not from O. P. M. (other pepoles money) and then they stand up and say misser derushes for the real erliche yiden who're living a modest live ,not to spend (only to give them the money) it's high time to uncover their faces openly which every knows and stop this life style as chszal say KE'SHOID ATZMOCH and then.....

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:48 AM Anonymous Says:

As long as you include your own rabbi shauly,sing what you want!

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:48 AM Anonymous Says:

The problem I personally had with this, was the images of a few real Tzadikim as if they are on the same level like some low life Rebbe's, when I saw among others an image of the holy Skulener Rebbe which only a real nut case can say anything bad on this real Tzadik this made me sick, and the same with some other true tzadikim that you see in the video, however there are plenty so called Rabbis who are seeking only Kovod & Gelt and nothing more, and some of them can literally be labeled as real "Mesisim Umadichim" for causing Chilul Hashem and by giving their stupid followers examples how to behave, so don't put Skulen, Tosh, Viznitz, Rachmestrivke, Kosov etc. on same level with some bums.. b"h, Klal Yisroel still has true Tzadikim both in Israel & in the US so just ignore all those fake Rebelech and don't look their way.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:47 AM Anonymous Says:

Missing some very big fraudster rabbis though. Saw only a few on this video who swept the big scandals under the carpet. Why?

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:45 AM BABA Says:

Thank You Shauly For this song! You really cheered me up! Tizku L'mitzvos

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:41 AM Dr No Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

VIN PLS TAKE THIS SHMUTZ ARTICLE OFF!! ITS DISRESPECTFULL AND OFFENSIVE TO ALL OF US ,YOURE SUPPORTERS TO POST SUCH HEADLINE ARTICLES OF SOME SCREWED UP LOWLIFE BUM FROM MONSEY!!!!!

I have a feeling that this comment was posted by some 35-year-old "Rebbe", sitting with his MacBook in the back of his S550 on the way to the gym

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:38 AM Shaul in Monsey Says:

VIN is to be applauded for the news it posts. The selection of news is absolutely unbiased and unlike other, "yeshiva" news sources in the "world" doesn't filter the news like I am some 5 year old baby who can't handle the truth and reality in today's world.

Simply put, VIN news is cutting edge. If you can't handle it, YOU LEAVE, and don't tell VIN what to do while the door is closing behind you.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:35 AM Anonymous Says:

if he made a such a kind song shows this person does not believe in anything not even in the ribono shel haolam when u will need a broucho from a rebbe do not go to him

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:58 AM Anonymous Says:

The truth really hurts.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
every frum yid Says:

Even though many rebbes deserve is and caused a song/video like this to be produced.

We: frum yiddin should have a major problem with this because;
First of all i can understans that VIN Post only the Audio and not the video some bad parts in it.
#2 true there are some rabbis are no good but Torah is transmited via the gedolim the poskim and talmidei chachumim (call it Torah shebaal peh or the mesorah) when we poke fun at rebbes Many of us or of our children surly mistake that with poking fun at real gedolim, Poskim, Talmidei chachumim. and therefore the gemara in sanhedrin and other places state that anyone poking fun at rabbis is an apikores.
with out the mesorah or torah shebaal peh we dont even have the Alef Bet right (See Meseches brachos with the story of hillel and the ger)
What a shame that today very few undestand the problem of this. and no one stands up against apikerses like this

You have it both ways, you can't say for your kids to admire everyone! tou have to say the truth, admire the real ones, and mock the faked.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:19 AM anon Says:

Great video, I think it's ok to laugh at oneself occasionally

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:17 AM smile Says:

very well sung!!! compliments to the litvitsh WE CANT SING THE SAME SONG ABOUT OUR ROSH YESHIVAS!! they live erlach and in modistey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM 'E'ech Vil Zine A Rebbe's Friend Says:

I am a good friend of him and know him very well.
He is not a bum he is an earlicher yingerman and he does a lot of chased for other people, He did not make the song to hurt anyone or against any rebbe, He likes to sing as a hobby and gave it to a friend to listen and he published it on the web.
So all of you go and ask him forgiveness.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:11 AM Anonymous Says:

This is a great way to publicise a serious problem in our community.The title of rebbe has no qualification requirements, only a beard and a few foolish followers. This is more like a cult than a religion. People think that if your father, father-in-law, uncle was a rebbe it automatically gives you entitlement to the same position.

Its about time we administer a test. We might find out that some of these guys dont even know the aleph-bais

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:11 AM Shaul in Monsey Says:

"#2 true there are some rabbis are no good but Torah is transmited via the gedolim the poskim and talmidei chachumim"

You are spesking with hebrew words but what you are describing is Christianity.

We don't have priests or any other buffer between us in our relationship with the Ribbono Shel Olam. That's what catholics have. That's why they confess to a priest and not the way we confess. Torah is not transmitted to the masses through anybody.

It is transmitted from d'or to d'or - vshinantom lvanecha...not from the gedolim to the masses.

True, if you have a question you seek an eitzah, or a psak, or a mehalech, from a rav or rebbe. And in no way should a lack of kvod rav be tolerated.

I'm not sure the intent of this video - I don't know the songwriter / singer / video producer. But I think it was nothing more than young adults humoring themselves. And truth be told, our gedolim, individually and collectively as the Agudah, the RCA, OU, etc... have fallen terribly short in recent years. Not that their faults rationalize this, but I don't believe it should be made more of than what it really is.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:11 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
every frum yid Says:

Even though many rebbes deserve is and caused a song/video like this to be produced.

We: frum yiddin should have a major problem with this because;
First of all i can understans that VIN Post only the Audio and not the video some bad parts in it.
#2 true there are some rabbis are no good but Torah is transmited via the gedolim the poskim and talmidei chachumim (call it Torah shebaal peh or the mesorah) when we poke fun at rebbes Many of us or of our children surly mistake that with poking fun at real gedolim, Poskim, Talmidei chachumim. and therefore the gemara in sanhedrin and other places state that anyone poking fun at rabbis is an apikores.
with out the mesorah or torah shebaal peh we dont even have the Alef Bet right (See Meseches brachos with the story of hillel and the ger)
What a shame that today very few undestand the problem of this. and no one stands up against apikerses like this

TIPSHES what makes them gedoilen.... they buy a big house from GESHNORTE money , a big hat a bekitche white or black sox a nice PELTZ (fur coat) a silver SHTECKEN AND WALK SLOW A FINISHE REBBE & GUDEL..... he did some thing for kevod shumayim , was up nights learnig torah , fasting , etc like emese gedoilie yisruel which we still knew satmar rebbe , pupe , shopron, rav kotler , r' yonesn stief , sharmash krasne, kivyashed , rav stiener ,harav birenbaum (mir) r' avigder miller ,etc etc. zatzal they lived plain modestly they need noting for them self ,,,,, they lived for the needs of klal this is what chazal speak about and that's what we must respect and WILL

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:08 AM Anonymous Says:

I wonder in which Yeshive he learned and where he saw all of these....... by which REBBE and which TISH............ he should be ashamed that by thinking he has seen something by one its all over the same

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:03 AM Anonymous Says:

a piece of garbage

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:27 AM john Says:

Reply to #26  
Anonymous Says:

You have it both ways, you can't say for your kids to admire everyone! tou have to say the truth, admire the real ones, and mock the faked.

asei lecha rav that means look at his chochma his shmeichel his history of helping people kibbitzing with the janitors and being a mentch and his leadership qualities that is why u must choose a rebbe and stand by him and not everyone is perfect everyone was put into a situation by hashem soo they can help be mizhazek yidden and u dont have to be the biggest talmid chochom to do that take for example the bobover he helped america and loved his chassidim but yes there should be internet anonomous blogs for each chassidus soo people can comment on their own leadership and keep it in order THANK HASHEM FOR THE INTERNET!

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:55 AM joe Says:

I don’t know him personally but my brother is very good friends with him and as I understand he made the sung privately for him self and one disgraceful guy went and put it on the net with all these pictures shauli is really a tzadik from what I hear from my brother the guy that put it on the net without permission will pay an expensive price for that

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:57 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #32  
Anonymous Says:

TIPSHES what makes them gedoilen.... they buy a big house from GESHNORTE money , a big hat a bekitche white or black sox a nice PELTZ (fur coat) a silver SHTECKEN AND WALK SLOW A FINISHE REBBE & GUDEL..... he did some thing for kevod shumayim , was up nights learnig torah , fasting , etc like emese gedoilie yisruel which we still knew satmar rebbe , pupe , shopron, rav kotler , r' yonesn stief , sharmash krasne, kivyashed , rav stiener ,harav birenbaum (mir) r' avigder miller ,etc etc. zatzal they lived plain modestly they need noting for them self ,,,,, they lived for the needs of klal this is what chazal speak about and that's what we must respect and WILL

I would like to add altough it's impossible to write all gedolem ... in our .. but we can't ommit some that I forgot while writing i.e. tzelemer rav , rav feinstein , rav henkin both lived in lower east side housing all needed noting for them self they stood to serve klal yisruel 24 hours a day with SHALES UTSHIVES in all parts of torah (NO CHARGE ) not even kuved those were gedoile torah..

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:51 AM YATZMACH Says:

This is so sad..YET so true. Emes L'amitoh. Do you have any idea how many shvense died so these clowns can wear a shtreimel? These comedians are corrupting yiddishkiet, destroying our children, and raisng havoc with our world.
The holocaust was a boom for these guys. Vey few REAL Rebbes survived so this opened up a new cottage industry. There are MORE "Rebbes" now than there were shteytlach in ALL of Europe. They are perpertrating a massive fraud and we are to stupid to notice.

PS: Alot of the Litvishe 'Roshei Hayeshiva are no different.

AH GITTEN SHABBOS and AH FRAYLACHIN CHANUKAH

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:42 AM Anonymous Says:

Hello everyone, lets all take a deep breath and relax here. To the extent that the song will serve to wise up the masses to the fraud being perpetuated daily by their "leaders" , it is a blessing. There is no mitzvah in the torah to follow blindly without using our brains. I think most people are smart enough to be able to distinguish between real erliche yidden and between people who happened to be born into a dynasty, and thus suddenly find themselves drunk with adoration, bathing in other peoples hard earned money, and living the good life. As the saying goes, sarcasm is only an unpleasant way of telling the truth. And in our society unfortunately truth telling is not in vogue right now and no one has the guts nor the power to stand up and say the truth like it needs to be said, so its not half bad that the composer found a way to bring a point across with humor and entertainment................ Lets think about it, maybe there is a reason this has spread like wildfire, maybe the little people or "pushite yidden" are sick and tired of being trampled by the elites and of supporting our rebbes and their kids lidoirai doirois, hmmmmmmmmmmm, perhaps there is a reason for the knowing smiles of yungerleit sitting at their computers and listening to the song over and over again, but no, its much easier to say , ay dee shvache doires, nisht kan trup eminas tzadikim huben zai, ay der internet hut inz avekgeharget, damm right it did because it exposed what is going on................

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:42 AM Anonymous Says:

I can't stop watching the video

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:37 AM Andrew Says:

How dare Agudah's Avi Shaffran say such loshon hora about Grossman.

The video posted on YouTube was made by someone else, unknown to Grossman. Grossman says he recorded the song one year ago for private use.

A public apology is in order.

(Of course, it will not come.)

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:34 AM friend of shauly Says:

shauly grossman is a wonderful guy!! No matter what you will say. i agree that we totally did it for fun 'for ourself'. n for what we did ourself nobody has 'any rights' to criticize cuz this is 'our' lives n b4 you say somthing, go first n correct 'ur' life. u have alot what to correct out there b4 u go to'yenem'.. Now!! For those who love music n understand what music is all about..Wait. cuz music is about to get on a higher standard (im not talkin about fun stuff. m talkin about real music n things nobody will get hurt n stuff that ''everyone is ganna like'' sit locked n see whats ganna happen! alot of surprises for those who are hungry for good music!!

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 11:58 AM mordy Says:

Every yid has there own neshama .Therfore when they feel a bit holly that is a part of there neshama that feels at that time the need to be a rebbe that simply means in that case to rise in hollieness

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #22  
Dr No Says:

I have a feeling that this comment was posted by some 35-year-old "Rebbe", sitting with his MacBook in the back of his S550 on the way to the gym

nothing wrong with gym or a mac book.
this will be the first rebbe who encorages the gym . kul hakavod

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 12:25 PM michal Says:

Reply to #41  
Andrew Says:

How dare Agudah's Avi Shaffran say such loshon hora about Grossman.

The video posted on YouTube was made by someone else, unknown to Grossman. Grossman says he recorded the song one year ago for private use.

A public apology is in order.

(Of course, it will not come.)


I totally disagree. R. Shafran should not apologize bucause he is 100% correct. What Mr. Grossman did was a chillul Hashem. Not only did he insult many holy rebbeim, but he insulted us as well.

It also sends a wrong message to our children. Parents pray that their children will grow up with derech eretz, and honoring talmidei chachamim. What kind of message are we sending our children by displaying chutzpah toward our gedolim.

Today, with our children going off the derech, r"l, this video will only add to an already growing problem within our communties. Shame on those who cannot see this.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 12:36 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #31  
Shaul in Monsey Says:

"#2 true there are some rabbis are no good but Torah is transmited via the gedolim the poskim and talmidei chachumim"

You are spesking with hebrew words but what you are describing is Christianity.

We don't have priests or any other buffer between us in our relationship with the Ribbono Shel Olam. That's what catholics have. That's why they confess to a priest and not the way we confess. Torah is not transmitted to the masses through anybody.

It is transmitted from d'or to d'or - vshinantom lvanecha...not from the gedolim to the masses.

True, if you have a question you seek an eitzah, or a psak, or a mehalech, from a rav or rebbe. And in no way should a lack of kvod rav be tolerated.

I'm not sure the intent of this video - I don't know the songwriter / singer / video producer. But I think it was nothing more than young adults humoring themselves. And truth be told, our gedolim, individually and collectively as the Agudah, the RCA, OU, etc... have fallen terribly short in recent years. Not that their faults rationalize this, but I don't believe it should be made more of than what it really is.

true- torah is transfered dor vador, but there's something called nevuah, which, BTW can exist in our times.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:01 PM one of 'em Says:

another piece of trash from the forward, that we never see read or care about what they are saying....

as to the song itself, I don't have access to You tube, because JNET blocks it, so I didnt see the video with the faces, I only got the Audio version, and I admit I had a good laugh on it, because unfortunately with some of todays rebbe's its true, most rebbes and rabbonim are very hard working selfless individuals big in Torah Avoda and Chesed who really give themselves away for the community.

But again nisht ales voos men zugt darf men shreiben, un nisht ales vus men shreibt darf men driken, amusing one self in private, or even at a purim tish or wedding, where heimish people take it with a grain of salt, is not the same as putting it out in the public.

Heimish people know to value and make a difference between the true rebbes and the very few selfish fake ones, putting this out to the general public is a total different story,

and the worst part of it, is creating a video and adding photos of well respected hard working rebbes who give their time and lives fr the community and chasidim.

That's a despicable terrible crime and aveiroh, for which even Teshuva doesn't help, not even Yum Kipur, because its bein odem l'chaveiru.

And I beg VIN to rethink their policy, and STOP quoting the sinking forward, that nobody ever cared what they wrote and said, oother then a few "alta kakers" (pun intended) poshei yisroel who eat treifos dont keep shabbos yet speak all the miese verter if yiddish.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 12:59 PM Anonymous Says:

its just as an insult the way these rabonim act az the way this song potrays them ... midah keneged midah

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 12:56 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

VIN PLS TAKE THIS SHMUTZ ARTICLE OFF!! ITS DISRESPECTFULL AND OFFENSIVE TO ALL OF US ,YOURE SUPPORTERS TO POST SUCH HEADLINE ARTICLES OF SOME SCREWED UP LOWLIFE BUM FROM MONSEY!!!!!

shauly keep it up

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 12:55 PM Askipeh Hanidreses Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

if he made a such a kind song shows this person does not believe in anything not even in the ribono shel haolam when u will need a broucho from a rebbe do not go to him

Pink farkert, this shows that he DOES believe in the Riboino shel oilom, and thatswhy he mocks falshe Rebbes. Yes, falshe Rebbes should be mocked, but not in public. Shauli didn't do it in public. It is not his fault that someone spread it.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM Anonymous Says:

Tragically, the song AND video are a reflection of our ( lack of qualified )leadership. It hits a raw nerve because even those who are against it know that it is accurate.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 12:32 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #45  
michal Says:


I totally disagree. R. Shafran should not apologize bucause he is 100% correct. What Mr. Grossman did was a chillul Hashem. Not only did he insult many holy rebbeim, but he insulted us as well.

It also sends a wrong message to our children. Parents pray that their children will grow up with derech eretz, and honoring talmidei chachamim. What kind of message are we sending our children by displaying chutzpah toward our gedolim.

Today, with our children going off the derech, r"l, this video will only add to an already growing problem within our communties. Shame on those who cannot see this.

Who are you calling a godol.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:16 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #51  
Anonymous Says:

Tragically, the song AND video are a reflection of our ( lack of qualified )leadership. It hits a raw nerve because even those who are against it know that it is accurate.

Tragically, this is a sign of the chitzpah of this generation. Shame, shame, shame on you VIN, for lowering yourself to the standards of Chaptzem and the Forward.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:16 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #22  
Dr No Says:

I have a feeling that this comment was posted by some 35-year-old "Rebbe", sitting with his MacBook in the back of his S550 on the way to the gym

Whatsa matter? You feel left out?

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:24 PM Anonymous Says:

The Jewish HOLY religion is based on the truth - trust, so how can I read a newspaper who controls the news - they don't trust me, so thank you VIN.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #45  
michal Says:


I totally disagree. R. Shafran should not apologize bucause he is 100% correct. What Mr. Grossman did was a chillul Hashem. Not only did he insult many holy rebbeim, but he insulted us as well.

It also sends a wrong message to our children. Parents pray that their children will grow up with derech eretz, and honoring talmidei chachamim. What kind of message are we sending our children by displaying chutzpah toward our gedolim.

Today, with our children going off the derech, r"l, this video will only add to an already growing problem within our communties. Shame on those who cannot see this.

Foa: grossman didn't say any names of rabunem he just made the song in general, the one who made the video he made a chulel hashem,
Soa: the rabunem and rabbis this Dur needs a lot of improvement its there fold that all this bucherim are going of the darich r"l, they have to do something about it, but they don't because they r busy sucking out money from there chasidim and using it for there things,
and whats with all that sex abuse that's going on now in the Jewish community, "who has to take care of that"???? not Nuchem Rosenberg not Duv Hikien!!! all this rabbis and rabunem that are on this video they have to take care of that they have to come out a scream on all the people that don't let fathers going to the police!!!!!

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:22 PM Berieder Says:

Respect should be earned! The song was a very well done parody. If someone took it and turned it into something disrespectful thats not Shauly's fault.

The point however remains, if certain people want respect,, LET THEM EARN IT!

The song might be a spoof but the message is very true.

BFlat

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:41 PM heisah chusid Says:

i heard this song a year ago from shoily he didnt made it for public. so What do you want from the guys life. he was just having fun and expressing his feelings. shoily your the best ~G~

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:36 PM Anonymous Says:

II am over the 40, and and my controls which newspaper stores should sell! order by mail the NYtims, and they send me a warning, so thank you VIN of opening the window of the g-d,s world.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:32 PM Yoeli tessler Says:

I agrre 100 % with the song! this song is not meant for the rabbis from the last generation it meant for this rabbis from today that have 4-5 family houses (chassidim of course are paying the mortgage) nice cars, 2 maids every day of the week, etc....., look at the rabbis from the previous generations, all they had was nothing, and the money they had they gave it to their chassidim,

Shauli Grossman, don't let this ppl. bring you down you did a Great job.

P.S. by the way thanks for the song you made for my brother in law with the 2 schwarts brother's

YOU ROCK!

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:31 PM seicheldig geredt Says:

Great Job Shauli, now take a calculator and a scale and begin weighing and calculating how many people (leitzim) you put a smile on and how many people got disgusted, not to forget the misery your children will go through when they will have to get in to a yeshiva and make a cheshbon. Shauli "YOU CAN NEVER TAKE THESE WORDS BACK"

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:29 PM pushete yid Says:

if you read closely shauli clearly says he had nothing to do with the video. hes very talented and did a great job with the lyrics. he did not poke fun at ayone specific, and as far as the BIG EVENT goes, that was a sham and should never have been cancelled. its a shame that its so easy to run and "tell" rabanim something either because your jealous or just cant fargin someone success, and they automatically believe you. the situatuation should have been looked into before banning the concert. many people lost parnasa because of that. SHAME!

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 02:09 PM Anonymous Says:

Why does Haashem tell us at the end of Mishnaos Sotah:
"On whom is their to rely? On Our Father Who is in Heaven"?

At the end of Sefer Devarim, Hashem tells us to listen to the leaders of the generation, the rabbis. Why doesn't the mishna tell us to rely on the rabbis?

Why? Because Hashem knew what the rabbis would be like just before Moshiach comes. That's why Hashem tells us to rely on Him alone.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #53  
Anonymous Says:

Tragically, this is a sign of the chitzpah of this generation. Shame, shame, shame on you VIN, for lowering yourself to the standards of Chaptzem and the Forward.

Some rabbi made ones a point, in a way the todays world is more accurate than the previous times, because nobody controls your knowledge... Did you know that when Galileo revealed that the son is in earth revolves the son, they put hem in prison...

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #61  
seicheldig geredt Says:

Great Job Shauli, now take a calculator and a scale and begin weighing and calculating how many people (leitzim) you put a smile on and how many people got disgusted, not to forget the misery your children will go through when they will have to get in to a yeshiva and make a cheshbon. Shauli "YOU CAN NEVER TAKE THESE WORDS BACK"

he doesn't have to make any calculation because by the time his kids will go to school it wont be anything wrong about it, just the opposed his kids will be the ones that there father had sichel to talk about it 10 years ago

Shauli you are the best just keep up!!!!

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:52 PM Anonymous Says:

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK WE LOVED IT. I GUESS THE TRUTH HURTS.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 01:51 PM Anonymous Says:

Talent and Mussar combined!

one needs to internalize the message, of course one has to be a worthy messenger as well.
i have listened to the words and music (not the video).
in the yeshiva world the minhag on purim was to give tochacha in such a manner. to the point via the medium of mockery. albeit not in a nasty belittling manner.
and i believe the problem is not the concept its the proliferation, however once one knows the power of the web in reaching all corners of the world one must be vigilant in not sharing or posting that which can be a chilul hashem by getting in to the wrong hands.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 02:53 PM chassidisteh Says:

i thought it was very funny, the song and the video. a giten shabbes.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 02:44 PM AYONEMAN Says:

I grew up on Masa Bichlech which wrote tales of previous generations, when children of deceased Rebbes had to be 'begged' 'cajoled', 'forced' to take on the mantle of their fathers position; sometimes it took years for some Rebbe to be succeded; in some instances, no one took the chair of the Bardichever, Lizensker, Sanzer, etc. Nowadays, when a Rebbe pases on there are rivals claiming the right of succession. There are at least 2 to 3 Rebbelech for each Rebbe, all claiming to be the rightful heir to the throne. Some of these are known to have been lowlifes in their youth. Now it is all about Koved and Gelt.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 03:16 PM Nevuah??? Says:

Reply to #46  
Anonymous Says:

true- torah is transfered dor vador, but there's something called nevuah, which, BTW can exist in our times.

Sorry Dude, Nevuah stopped a long time ago. The Chachamim prayed that Avoda Zara be taken away from the world. At the same time Nevuah was lost -- to keep balance... If something was taken away from tumah, then something commensurate had to be taken away from Kedusha... namely Nevuah ....
Although, I have heard that before Moshiach, Nevuah will return to Bnei Yisrael.... (let's hope it's now..)

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 03:13 PM shmiel Says:

i love it its great rebbes arent infallable they are human just like us anyone who bellitle shauli is a fool at the least

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 03:12 PM Dr No Says:

Reply to #61  
seicheldig geredt Says:

Great Job Shauli, now take a calculator and a scale and begin weighing and calculating how many people (leitzim) you put a smile on and how many people got disgusted, not to forget the misery your children will go through when they will have to get in to a yeshiva and make a cheshbon. Shauli "YOU CAN NEVER TAKE THESE WORDS BACK"

Well would YOU be ashamed if your father is a talented singer with a sense of humor to kill?? I wouldnt

Not even to go into the fact what a wonderful gentleman and Baal Middos Shauli is - I would love and be very proud to be his child, but thank god I can be his friend.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 03:10 PM I heard.... Says:

Reply to #60  
Yoeli tessler Says:

I agrre 100 % with the song! this song is not meant for the rabbis from the last generation it meant for this rabbis from today that have 4-5 family houses (chassidim of course are paying the mortgage) nice cars, 2 maids every day of the week, etc....., look at the rabbis from the previous generations, all they had was nothing, and the money they had they gave it to their chassidim,

Shauli Grossman, don't let this ppl. bring you down you did a Great job.

P.S. by the way thanks for the song you made for my brother in law with the 2 schwarts brother's

YOU ROCK!

I heard that Rebbe Excesses went back to Europe.... One town had a Rebbe who would drive around in a fancy carriage, while his constituents went hungry.... people were incensed.....

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 03:07 PM Choosing Leaders & Europe Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

VIN PLS TAKE THIS SHMUTZ ARTICLE OFF!! ITS DISRESPECTFULL AND OFFENSIVE TO ALL OF US ,YOURE SUPPORTERS TO POST SUCH HEADLINE ARTICLES OF SOME SCREWED UP LOWLIFE BUM FROM MONSEY!!!!!

Blah, Blah #2... First of all, you shouldn't call someone a "lowlife bum from Monsey"... and btway where are you from? Second, the video is funny. Third, NOT every Rebbe deserves to be a Rebbe. Our leaders used to be chosen by LEARNING and MIddos/Mitzvos NOT by simple inheritance..... Fourth. Complaints of Rebbe excesses go back to Europe.... stop defending people you don't know....

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 03:04 PM Anonymous Says:

I think that it is hysterical. The only people offended by it should take a look at themselves. How many "holy" rebbeim out there are actually really this way? I know of several. So, deal with life, deal with the fact that the song, while perhaps inappropriate, is hysterically funny, and if you don't like it, don't listen. Besides, how would you have found it if you weren't listening or watching the 'net?

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 03:21 PM Rabbinic Infallibilty??? Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

Hello everyone, lets all take a deep breath and relax here. To the extent that the song will serve to wise up the masses to the fraud being perpetuated daily by their "leaders" , it is a blessing. There is no mitzvah in the torah to follow blindly without using our brains. I think most people are smart enough to be able to distinguish between real erliche yidden and between people who happened to be born into a dynasty, and thus suddenly find themselves drunk with adoration, bathing in other peoples hard earned money, and living the good life. As the saying goes, sarcasm is only an unpleasant way of telling the truth. And in our society unfortunately truth telling is not in vogue right now and no one has the guts nor the power to stand up and say the truth like it needs to be said, so its not half bad that the composer found a way to bring a point across with humor and entertainment................ Lets think about it, maybe there is a reason this has spread like wildfire, maybe the little people or "pushite yidden" are sick and tired of being trampled by the elites and of supporting our rebbes and their kids lidoirai doirois, hmmmmmmmmmmm, perhaps there is a reason for the knowing smiles of yungerleit sitting at their computers and listening to the song over and over again, but no, its much easier to say , ay dee shvache doires, nisht kan trup eminas tzadikim huben zai, ay der internet hut inz avekgeharget, damm right it did because it exposed what is going on................

#39... "I think most people are smart enough to be able to distinguish between real erliche yidden and between people who happened to be born into a dynasty, and thus suddenly find themselves drunk with adoration, bathing in other peoples hard earned money, and living the good life."
I would like to believe what you say is true, but unfortunately, I don't think it is. Many people, especially Chasidim, believe their Rebbe's are infallible. INCAPABLE of making a mistake; having Ruach Hakodesh at the least and maybe even nevuah.....

Moshe Rabeinu, Yehoshua, Shivim Zekainim all made mistakes...... but present day Rebbes???? heaven forbid....

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 03:35 PM YATZMACH Says:

2 Satmar Rebbes..2 Bobover Rebbes.. 2 Vishnitzer Rebbes..the Bostoner Rebbe Franchise..2 Moditzer Rebbes (thats 1 more than Modizer chassidim) .. ONLY the ribono shel olam knows how many Spinka Rebbes and let's not forget all the Rebbes on every corner in Boro Park, Flatbush and Monsey IHR HAKODESH.WHO DECIDES WHO BECOMES A REBBE? Bet it's the same clowns who decide DAAS TORAH is.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 03:33 PM Selling Brachas... Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

Hello everyone, lets all take a deep breath and relax here. To the extent that the song will serve to wise up the masses to the fraud being perpetuated daily by their "leaders" , it is a blessing. There is no mitzvah in the torah to follow blindly without using our brains. I think most people are smart enough to be able to distinguish between real erliche yidden and between people who happened to be born into a dynasty, and thus suddenly find themselves drunk with adoration, bathing in other peoples hard earned money, and living the good life. As the saying goes, sarcasm is only an unpleasant way of telling the truth. And in our society unfortunately truth telling is not in vogue right now and no one has the guts nor the power to stand up and say the truth like it needs to be said, so its not half bad that the composer found a way to bring a point across with humor and entertainment................ Lets think about it, maybe there is a reason this has spread like wildfire, maybe the little people or "pushite yidden" are sick and tired of being trampled by the elites and of supporting our rebbes and their kids lidoirai doirois, hmmmmmmmmmmm, perhaps there is a reason for the knowing smiles of yungerleit sitting at their computers and listening to the song over and over again, but no, its much easier to say , ay dee shvache doires, nisht kan trup eminas tzadikim huben zai, ay der internet hut inz avekgeharget, damm right it did because it exposed what is going on................

Where and why did the minhag start of giving a Rebbe tzedaka/money when getting a bracha from him??? If one had to "bring down" the bracha into this world, couldn't it be done by giving ANYONE tzedaka (and not just the Rebbe) ???
We sell aliya's (in shul no less on Shabbas) and we SELL brahcas??? hmmmmm....

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 03:32 PM Litveshe??? Emes??? Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

Hello everyone, lets all take a deep breath and relax here. To the extent that the song will serve to wise up the masses to the fraud being perpetuated daily by their "leaders" , it is a blessing. There is no mitzvah in the torah to follow blindly without using our brains. I think most people are smart enough to be able to distinguish between real erliche yidden and between people who happened to be born into a dynasty, and thus suddenly find themselves drunk with adoration, bathing in other peoples hard earned money, and living the good life. As the saying goes, sarcasm is only an unpleasant way of telling the truth. And in our society unfortunately truth telling is not in vogue right now and no one has the guts nor the power to stand up and say the truth like it needs to be said, so its not half bad that the composer found a way to bring a point across with humor and entertainment................ Lets think about it, maybe there is a reason this has spread like wildfire, maybe the little people or "pushite yidden" are sick and tired of being trampled by the elites and of supporting our rebbes and their kids lidoirai doirois, hmmmmmmmmmmm, perhaps there is a reason for the knowing smiles of yungerleit sitting at their computers and listening to the song over and over again, but no, its much easier to say , ay dee shvache doires, nisht kan trup eminas tzadikim huben zai, ay der internet hut inz avekgeharget, damm right it did because it exposed what is going on................

#28 and #38 say the opposite thing about Litveshe Roshie Yeshivas..... what is the emes?? I personally don't think the litveshe world "blindly follows" their Rabeim like Chasidim do......
I would hope that both the Litveshe Rabeim and the Chasidishe Rebbes do everything L'Shaim Shamayim....... and not for Kavod or Money Chas VeShalom..... Good Shabbas :>

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 06:00 PM Yeshivish Says:

Reply to #28  
smile Says:

very well sung!!! compliments to the litvitsh WE CANT SING THE SAME SONG ABOUT OUR ROSH YESHIVAS!! they live erlach and in modistey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

Thanks for the great laugh.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 03:24 PM Yecheskel Cohen Says:

The truth does hurt, but thank god not all the rebbes fit this category, and besides that who says he specificaly meant to put down chasidishe rebbes?

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 12:58 PM ich bin a rebbe Says:

I cried from laughter when i saw the video not because i enjoyed the poking fun at rebbes but because it's a cute parody of a rocksong. That's all it is. The guy who made this has nothing against rebbes. It's just art. That's all it is.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 08:24 AM Metzios Says:

I hated what I saw/heard! But then I realised instead of being angry at Shauly, I should rather be angry how some so called 'Rebbelech' are causing such disrespect to chassides.
Shauly is only comunicating what goes on.

Let's not shoot the messenger.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 04:07 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

if he made a such a kind song shows this person does not believe in anything not even in the ribono shel haolam when u will need a broucho from a rebbe do not go to him

i dont think he gos to them he knows better.people have to chill in life. the song has some [or a little more] truth.

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 Dec 19, 2008 at 04:02 PM CDD Says:

SHAULY SHALUY SHALUY I AM SO HAAPPY TO SEE THAT FINNALY WE HAVE SOME CHASIDISHA ROCK-STARS LIPA SHALUY ETC..

KEEP IT UP TILL U GET INTO HOLLYWOOD HIT THE MUSIC

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 06:29 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #81  
Yecheskel Cohen Says:

The truth does hurt, but thank god not all the rebbes fit this category, and besides that who says he specificaly meant to put down chasidishe rebbes?

your right . it wasnt only chassidishe rebelach . The chaim berlin rebbele is not chassidish but still fits into the same catagory as the chassidishe ones

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 06:21 PM Ich Zug Says:

He might br on to something. Note that he left out the Lubavitcher Rebbe, becuase the Lubavitcher lived simpler than simple, with old furnishing etc. Maybe some of the Rebbes will get the message and start living simpler!

88

 Dec 20, 2008 at 06:20 PM Anonymous Says:

im a chasid i love this song, its a good laugh, why not. im not embarassed. and of course i love my rebbe.

89

 Dec 20, 2008 at 06:53 PM Anonymous Says:

If the song had no truth nobody would even care. Where there is smoke there is fire!
One of the paragraphs mentioned:
"Hasidic singer Lipa Schmeltzer was canceled following a decree from a number of leading ultra-Orthodox rabbis."

Do we have to go through this garbage again? After all said and done the facts showed there was NO "LEADING" rabbis that were part of the decree against Lipa and ALL RABANIM except 5 said they were misled including Rabbi Shmuel Kaminetsky. This does not mean they endorsed the concert but there is a BIG LIPA difference in banning something and coing out with a decree.

I will end off with one question. Why on earth should we be amused about every yid posting stuff on youtube which is full of garbage and very goyish?


Maybe VIN should shut the comment section with these kind of topics since it does not always add to the story but what comes out of the comments is terrible hashkafa. ( I assume that many people posting here are totally out of their minds since we can see where their hashkafa is )

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 07:31 PM Anonymous Says:

The song is very clever, but that doesn't make it less disrespectful. On the contrary, it makes it worse.

The video (I couldn't see it so I don't know which Rebbes are pictured) probably makes people think it directly relates to individual Rebbes. The thing about you-tube & facebook is that you can never get rid of it & things surface even years later. How did this Shauly explain himself to his Rebbe?

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 07:30 PM Anonymous Says:

this song is great
It inspires me to become a Rebbe

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 07:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #82  
ich bin a rebbe Says:

I cried from laughter when i saw the video not because i enjoyed the poking fun at rebbes but because it's a cute parody of a rocksong. That's all it is. The guy who made this has nothing against rebbes. It's just art. That's all it is.

the song was funny and true. what appeared on youtube was not!! whoever put that together and posted it should be ashamed!!

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 07:22 PM SSy Says:

Keep it on waitng for a new soung from you>>>>>>>

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 07:57 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2
Anonymous Says:
“ VIN PLS TAKE THIS SHMUTZ ARTICLE OFF!! ITS DISRESPECTFULL AND OFFENSIVE TO ALL OF US ,YOURE SUPPORTERS TO POST SUCH HEADLINE ARTICLES OF SOME SCREWED UP LOWLIFE BUM FROM MONSEY!!!!! ”

Good job on posting we should have access to all news.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 07:50 PM Anonymous Says:

i personally think that the original chassidus started by the baal shem tov has outlived its usefulness for most people all thats left is a chassidus that is almost on the same level as a professional sports team with the rebbe being the entertainment and star at the same time .it almost has no sheichus to yiddishkeit but how well the rebbe performed and what color bekishe and how thick the gartel was.not to say that there are a few exceptions and not every rebbe is in this category..

96

 Dec 20, 2008 at 07:48 PM Anonymous Says:

guys we should all become Rebbes at least we will be Shome Shabbos

97

 Dec 20, 2008 at 07:44 PM mispalell Says:

In my shteeble we sang this song by shalosh seudos and everyone laughed but the rebbe. I wonder why.

98

 Dec 20, 2008 at 07:37 PM grr Says:

just watched the video. its insulting. the guys a geivanik. even if he did it for fun, its still thoughts that went thru his mind. and judging is geivah.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 08:29 PM Elchonon Says:

I just read a story.. a man came to the ropshitzer ? dressed in white and said "I had a dream that i' a rebbe" so the ropshitzer answerd "thats not enough.. your chasidim need to dream that too!"

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 08:43 PM Pney Hador Kipney Hakelev Says:

I once heard a Git Vort, the Pirish of Pney Hador Kipney Hakelev, before Moshiach comes:

Pney Hador doesn't mean everyone, rather it means only certain "leaders of the generation", called the Pney Haeida, the so called Chushivste "Sheina Yidden" i.e. some FAKE-Rebbe's, when you look at their face and behavior you will see that it's Kipney Hakelev.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 08:42 PM BP Rebbe Says:

I am a rebbe from BP and I am offended by this song and all the jokes about me and my collegues in the holy field chassidus.We try our best to spiritually uplift the poor slobs that attend our tishes. My rebitzen stays up all night to make enough cholent, kishke, and kugel to satisfy the appitites of all the lowlifes who enter my domain.Am I not entitled to a little respect (and money) in gratitude for the services that I render.Imagine if I went out of business. All these bums would have no place to eat.
I also give a few shiurem during the week and on shabbos. So what if I am not such a big talmid chochum and I have to fake on occasion. Most of the olim is either asleep at the table or eating in the kitchen.The ones that are awake are bigger amhoratzem than me and dont know the difference.

So please stop all this negativity. If you dont like me go to another rebbe. But believe me they are all the same. The only difference is the quality of the Cholent.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 08:48 PM Allba Says:

even you didnt mean to hurt any rebbi or hassidum its awfull to compose such a song that harrased each and evrey jew that has a rebbi.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 08:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #99  
Elchonon Says:

I just read a story.. a man came to the ropshitzer ? dressed in white and said "I had a dream that i' a rebbe" so the ropshitzer answerd "thats not enough.. your chasidim need to dream that too!"

Do any of these rebbes have franchise operations? This looks like a lucrative field I would like to get into. Do you know if there is any part time work available.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 09:14 PM Fakers Says:

Reply to #102  
Allba Says:

even you didnt mean to hurt any rebbi or hassidum its awfull to compose such a song that harrased each and evrey jew that has a rebbi.

Only the Fake Rebbe's need get insulted.

Real Rebbe's don't behave this way.

If you current Rebbe is a faker, (ungeshtupter gelt fresser), just switch to real Rebbe.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 08:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #102  
Allba Says:

even you didnt mean to hurt any rebbi or hassidum its awfull to compose such a song that harrased each and evrey jew that has a rebbi.

its not for nothing that the vilna goan was against the rebeshe shtick

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 10:09 PM a simple jew Says:

RIGHT OR WRONG, TRUE OR FALSE - IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. THE SONG (AND THE VIDEO) IS A EMESDIK CHILLUL HASHEM. SHAULY - SHAME ON YOU!

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 10:03 PM Anonymous Says:

After reading the reactions to this video it is clear that the large percentage of the yiddishe community--both chasidic and misnagdim--have such a low opinion of these so called rabonim. The are such low life and not in any way in the great tradition of the gadolim of prior generations. At least the leadership of the modern orthodox and conservative shuls are not engaged in the types of behavior we seem to read about every other day from these poor imitations of a rav who would inspire limud torah, mitzvos and maasim tovim. They are only focused on lining their pockets at the expense of their poor chasidim who mindlessly will give them their last pennies in the mistaken belief that hashem will reward them.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 10:03 PM the blind leading the blind Says:

Reply to #105  
Anonymous Says:

its not for nothing that the vilna goan was against the rebeshe shtick

The vilner gaon was not against anything in the real world.

The Vilna Gaon, like most Gedolim today, don't know what's flying in the real world and are being lead or should we say MIS-lead by the Power Brokers who control them and sell them a bill of goods of a fake no existent reality and these so called Gedolim-Wannabees naively believe whatever non-truths they are told.

This was demonstrated by all the so called Gedolim who went against Lipa Shmeltzer where all these so called Gedolim were ll later BUSTED that they gave out a so called "psak din" without due diligence and were all LIED to and mislead by power brokers with an agenda.

The Vilna Gaon was mislead the same way by power brokers (misnagdim) who were interested in politics and generating a sinas chinum machlokes based on their own testimony to the Vilna Gaon, which were all, 100% outright lies.

Every single Rebbe at the time of the Vilna Gaon were all 100% real, unlike the current fakers.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 09:56 PM What is a Rebbe? Says:

i think everyone here needs to learn the real definition of what a Rebbe is (via chassidus) and then they will realize that he is not talking about REAL Rebbes but rather those who like the title of Rebbe but are really nothing more than a regular rabbi with political or economical influence.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 09:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Sad but true!bring a rebbe is a great business today.I know a "rebbe" whose great grandfather was a rebbe.I once asked the greatfather to whom I can make ne-dava payable to? He told me he has a small shteibel and doesn't need anything. 2 generations later, the 25 year old great grandson, openened up "shop";just by collecting money worldwide, he bought a shul, bought a seperate house to live in,has maids for the house and the shtribel,a mikveh,travels the world,etc. Its the best business!the new rebbes make these expensive weddings,buy apts for their kids,support huge families,multiple cars,vacation in palm springs,miami beach,new hampshire,israel,shveitz,etc. All in the course of a year.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 09:46 PM joke about satmar and lubavitch Says:

Reply to #69  
AYONEMAN Says:

I grew up on Masa Bichlech which wrote tales of previous generations, when children of deceased Rebbes had to be 'begged' 'cajoled', 'forced' to take on the mantle of their fathers position; sometimes it took years for some Rebbe to be succeded; in some instances, no one took the chair of the Bardichever, Lizensker, Sanzer, etc. Nowadays, when a Rebbe pases on there are rivals claiming the right of succession. There are at least 2 to 3 Rebbelech for each Rebbe, all claiming to be the rightful heir to the throne. Some of these are known to have been lowlifes in their youth. Now it is all about Koved and Gelt.

The difference b/w Lubavitch and Satmar: Even before their Rebbe was nistalek they were already fighting over the next rebbe as if he were not here. Lubavitch has pyshically lost their Rebbe, yet they keep on fighting over how Only he can be the rebbe

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 10:27 PM Anonymous Says:

its a very nice song

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 09:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #64  
Anonymous Says:

Some rabbi made ones a point, in a way the todays world is more accurate than the previous times, because nobody controls your knowledge... Did you know that when Galileo revealed that the son is in earth revolves the son, they put hem in prison...

You right, it was forbidden in those days to have to much knowledge, We have it now on pictures that planet earth revolves the Sun! But it was forbidden in those days! So the people of today are more truthful!!!!

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 11:30 PM Anonymous Says:

lutzuna achas doech meia tocuchos

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 11:28 PM far away Says:

Well, this song and video may be entertaining for those of you fortunate to live and grow up in a comunity filled with Jews, and rebbeim.

I am ffb from a small town with only 20 frum families. mamesh a shtetle in the middle of nowhere, 300 miles from New York. But we look towards the rebbeim and gedolim for inspiration to continue with frumkeit. You dont know what it is to be Jewish until you leave New York to a small strugling Jewish community. You have everything you need, but here tzitzis cost 50 dollars, and all seforim must be ordered and come weeks late. To fight for a minyan when ever a community member leaves town, with no jews on the street to bring into shul to help.

So for me to see this garbage, it offends us and I find it saddening to see the sourc e of our chizuk bimirched in such an indignant way!

gayvah!

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 11:23 PM Anonymous Says:

great video!!!!! the erlich rebbes u are anyways not gona hurt,and the fakers should shape up

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 11:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #111  
joke about satmar and lubavitch Says:

The difference b/w Lubavitch and Satmar: Even before their Rebbe was nistalek they were already fighting over the next rebbe as if he were not here. Lubavitch has pyshically lost their Rebbe, yet they keep on fighting over how Only he can be the rebbe

first you dont even begin to understand the difference. 2nd what dos this have to do with the song and the truth about it.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 11:03 PM seen it all Says:

Gut Voch!!!!
I just checked it out on youtube. It's hilarious, although some of the rebbes pictured deserve better. They are Y"S, eriliche yidden and should not have been put in this. This song is so true bitterweet humor. I meet with many rebbalech who come for donations, from small shtibel shops to 3,000 chassidim shops and this song hits it on the head.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM target of the Gaon Says:

Reply to #108  
the blind leading the blind Says:

The vilner gaon was not against anything in the real world.

The Vilna Gaon, like most Gedolim today, don't know what's flying in the real world and are being lead or should we say MIS-lead by the Power Brokers who control them and sell them a bill of goods of a fake no existent reality and these so called Gedolim-Wannabees naively believe whatever non-truths they are told.

This was demonstrated by all the so called Gedolim who went against Lipa Shmeltzer where all these so called Gedolim were ll later BUSTED that they gave out a so called "psak din" without due diligence and were all LIED to and mislead by power brokers with an agenda.

The Vilna Gaon was mislead the same way by power brokers (misnagdim) who were interested in politics and generating a sinas chinum machlokes based on their own testimony to the Vilna Gaon, which were all, 100% outright lies.

Every single Rebbe at the time of the Vilna Gaon were all 100% real, unlike the current fakers.

The Gaon meant ignorant cofrim like you who have the audacity to slander rov minyan and binyan of chachmei Yisroel. Your statement is worse than mai ahani lan rabbonan.

The chutzpa in your comment about the Vilna Gaon is breathtaking in its evil and gross ignorance.

The Gaon certainly had in mind people like you when he said that Chassidus could cause harm.

No Rebbe of any Dor could come to the fingernails of the Vilner Gaon

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 10:41 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #110  
Anonymous Says:

Sad but true!bring a rebbe is a great business today.I know a "rebbe" whose great grandfather was a rebbe.I once asked the greatfather to whom I can make ne-dava payable to? He told me he has a small shteibel and doesn't need anything. 2 generations later, the 25 year old great grandson, openened up "shop";just by collecting money worldwide, he bought a shul, bought a seperate house to live in,has maids for the house and the shtribel,a mikveh,travels the world,etc. Its the best business!the new rebbes make these expensive weddings,buy apts for their kids,support huge families,multiple cars,vacation in palm springs,miami beach,new hampshire,israel,shveitz,etc. All in the course of a year.

has he considered franchising? There are towns all over New Jersey and Long Island just waiting for a shteeble with a decent cholent nuch misif and fresh arbis freitig b'nacht.

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 10:39 PM Shauli's Friend Says:

Reply to #106  
a simple jew Says:

RIGHT OR WRONG, TRUE OR FALSE - IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. THE SONG (AND THE VIDEO) IS A EMESDIK CHILLUL HASHEM. SHAULY - SHAME ON YOU!

SHAULI !!!! you have nothing to be ashamed of!!! the song is a good and true song (even the one who made the video did a great jod (maybe a few rebbies he shouldn't of put in, but....))

p.s. looks like you "simple Jew" is a chusid off one of this rebbies who sucks out money from there chasisdim that's why you talk like that

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 10:37 PM Anonymous Says:

why r u so jelows!
Yes, you also can be a Rebbe!
Hap Arain!
It's great, You have to learn some Torah, daven, mitzvos vehidur , and you have all the money you need
you don't have to work anymore!
this is Moshiach's times!

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 Dec 20, 2008 at 10:29 PM yankelovich Says:

Reply to #106  
a simple jew Says:

RIGHT OR WRONG, TRUE OR FALSE - IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. THE SONG (AND THE VIDEO) IS A EMESDIK CHILLUL HASHEM. SHAULY - SHAME ON YOU!

The only "chilul hashem" here is the disgusting behavior of these phony rebbes.....while this bachur only meant the song in jest, his words ring true and that is why there are so many comments here in agreement with his message.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 12:06 AM vilner goan Says:

What do you guys know what the vilner goen said you couldn't care less what he said if its good for you to bash casidim then you use the goen ...do I have an idea what chasidos is ? Do I have an idea when a chosid goes to his rabbi for a brucha and the rabbi gives him chizuk what that means ? No I'm not offended by some lowlife who wants to copy michael jackson and other rock and roll goishe stars .as he said I only did it for my fun and did not mean nobody ...so you bring all reias from his song what he meant who cares what he meant ?

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 12:03 AM Anonymous Says:

>>Note that he left out the Lubavitcher Rebbe, becuase the Lubavitcher lived simpler than simple, with old furnishing etc. Maybe some of the Rebbes will get the message and start living simpler!

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 12:00 AM Anonymous Says:

Why is it that when our so called Rebbes fight like small children (or like big gangsters) for Real Estate, Power and Money and then go to court to settle their unending fights and its all covered in all newspapers, that it is not a Chilul Hasem but only when someone makes a song about the sad truth that all of a sudden its a Chilul Hashem

To all Rebbes that care about Chilul Hashem, us and our children STOP BEHAVING LIKE….

This song has gotten so much attention only because it is true and everyone knows it.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 01:18 AM Shirat Rosh Says:

Reply to #78  
Selling Brachas... Says:

Where and why did the minhag start of giving a Rebbe tzedaka/money when getting a bracha from him??? If one had to "bring down" the bracha into this world, couldn't it be done by giving ANYONE tzedaka (and not just the Rebbe) ???
We sell aliya's (in shul no less on Shabbas) and we SELL brahcas??? hmmmmm....

The concept of giving pidyon to a zadik, usually accompanied by a kvittel, was introduced by Reb Elimelech of Lyzinsk - the Noam Elimelech - beginning in about 1772.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 01:18 AM The Truth Hurts Says:

Reply to #119  
target of the Gaon Says:

The Gaon meant ignorant cofrim like you who have the audacity to slander rov minyan and binyan of chachmei Yisroel. Your statement is worse than mai ahani lan rabbonan.

The chutzpa in your comment about the Vilna Gaon is breathtaking in its evil and gross ignorance.

The Gaon certainly had in mind people like you when he said that Chassidus could cause harm.

No Rebbe of any Dor could come to the fingernails of the Vilner Gaon


Perhaps you consider it Chutzpah but it's reallyTRUE (and documented in seforim) that Vilna gaon was LIED to, by his aids and power-broker-misnagdim, who's only interest was politics and sinas chinum, who sold the Vilna Gaon, a Bube Maaseh, about "what chassidim are" which was a 100% fabrication and 100% not true at all, whatsoever.

The Vilna Gaon believed these misnagdim-liers, these EIDUS SHEKER, and he based his "Daas Torah" based on this Eidus Sheker - exactly like todays so called "Gedolim" assered Lipa Shmeltzer because of Eidus Sheker who they believed without doing a proper investigation of "Vedrashata Vechakarta Heitev".

It is not in Insult to the Vilna Gaon that some Low Life Eidus Sheker, had LIED to him - that is not his fault.

This is the PRAISE of the Vilna Gaon that he was not Chas Vesholom wrong, and so the Vilna Gaon is not Guilty because trusted these EIDUS SHEKER who told him a LIE and he had no way of knowing that the truth was 100% opposit of the Eidus Sheker.

Although the Vedrashata Vechakarta Heitev he also did not due, and he just trusted the LIARS blindly, just like today so called "Gedolim" do every day, they trust the people close to them - no matter what Bube Maaseh they sell them.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 12:55 AM Every frum yid Says:

# 31 I was not talking about a rebbe being a connection between us and God. I was taking about Torah, that Torah was transmited from dor to dor and veshinantom levonecho.
And with out the torah shebaal peh we have no torah and the torah sebaal peh are the gedolim and poskim. (i agree that saying gedolim i am not talking about many of the chasidishe rebbishe shtick today) I am talking about real gedolim and talmidei chachumim who are in fact our poskim. the onse that paskin for our generation.
Remember a pusuk in chumish "asher yihiyeh lecha bayomim huheim"?
with out our poskim (real pokim) including 'todays' poskim we have no torah at all. To say otherwise is #1 apikorses #2 ignorent (am hu'ratzes)
and all i said is that kids and many grown ups that are ignorent may get the wrong idea of a song like this.
The fact is that in the time of Modechai & human many yiddin poked fun at mordechi hatzadik too

and #32 I was not talking about some rebbes today that are full of shtick and are only rebbes because their fathers left them money and chasidim.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 01:26 AM Reb Zvi Meir Chosid Says:

My brother in law once heard from Reb Zvi Meir in Yerushalayim that a real tzaddik appreciates bizyonas (insults) as this brings him closer to Hashem if he makes sure that it doesn't bother him.

Shauly therefore made a favor for the real Tzaddikim who are only bothered by the Golus HaShechina.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 12:18 AM Anonymous Says:

I am an Orthodox Jew who does not live in the tri state area and does not follow a rebbe. Therefore, I was completely unaware that this 'lavish' lifestyle existed amongst some rebbes. I am not happy that I now 'know' about this piece of information. It is pure loshen hora and it is something that will not benefit klal yisroel in any way.
I find your site to be an invaluable news source and I enjoy visiting it. But an article such as this has no place in the pages of a website that sets the high standards that you aim to achieve. Anyone can come to read this site, Jew and Gentile alike. This loshen hora piece sheds a very negative light on Jews and will just cause more loshen hora as the story goes form second hand news to third and so forth.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 08:30 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #126  
Anonymous Says:

Why is it that when our so called Rebbes fight like small children (or like big gangsters) for Real Estate, Power and Money and then go to court to settle their unending fights and its all covered in all newspapers, that it is not a Chilul Hasem but only when someone makes a song about the sad truth that all of a sudden its a Chilul Hashem

To all Rebbes that care about Chilul Hashem, us and our children STOP BEHAVING LIKE….

This song has gotten so much attention only because it is true and everyone knows it.

Well said. Our leaders should lead by example. And if they dont we reserve the right to criticize them.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 08:28 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #131  
Anonymous Says:

I am an Orthodox Jew who does not live in the tri state area and does not follow a rebbe. Therefore, I was completely unaware that this 'lavish' lifestyle existed amongst some rebbes. I am not happy that I now 'know' about this piece of information. It is pure loshen hora and it is something that will not benefit klal yisroel in any way.
I find your site to be an invaluable news source and I enjoy visiting it. But an article such as this has no place in the pages of a website that sets the high standards that you aim to achieve. Anyone can come to read this site, Jew and Gentile alike. This loshen hora piece sheds a very negative light on Jews and will just cause more loshen hora as the story goes form second hand news to third and so forth.

One of the goals of VIN is to expose hypocirices in orthodox circles. This article does just that. No reason to remove the article.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 08:26 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #130  
Reb Zvi Meir Chosid Says:

My brother in law once heard from Reb Zvi Meir in Yerushalayim that a real tzaddik appreciates bizyonas (insults) as this brings him closer to Hashem if he makes sure that it doesn't bother him.

Shauly therefore made a favor for the real Tzaddikim who are only bothered by the Golus HaShechina.

He also said that you shouldnt have the internet or go onto the internet. Did you forget that part of the speech?

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 08:18 AM Monsey Yid Says:

“I certainly know that some of the people I recognized in the video live selfless and austere lives and for all I know, all of them do,” he said.

How can he say this??? Just by looking at the pictures in the video it is obviously not true! Most of the men (rebbes) in this videa are wearing clothing that costs thousands of dollars...and a Lexus in Israel??? Is this what he calls "selfless"...."austere"?!

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 07:52 AM Anonymous Says:

first of fall is asur to listen too goyisha music. that song is a goyisha song he just changed the lirics. its asur to listen to goyisha music this is why shauly now sayings lashon hara. listen to goyisah music one averah. leads another averah saying loshan harah.
this is proof we are in galus

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 04:29 AM Real Rebbe or Fake Rebbe Says:

How can you tell who is a Real Rebbe and who is a Faker?

1) Listen to Shauly Grossman's song if a "Rebbe" fits the description, then he is a faker, if not you may have a Real Rebbe.

2) Look at the size of his stomach. If he look like he is 50 to 100 pounds or more, overweight, most likely it's because he fits the criteria of the song.

3) Look at what he cares about most. If he fights over money, Kovod and control of the Rabbinate he can't be a real Rebbe.

Real Rebbe's don't even want to be Rebbe's. Real Rebbe's have to be BEGGED by Chassidim to be their Rebbe, never mind to fight their rivals, never mind going to court over such rivalry fights over money, power and control.

4) Check to see if this so called Rebbe (in question) goes to the beach in Miami. The Beach is mostly an un-tznius'dik place and certainly not any place any frum yid, never mind Chossid or Rebbe should ever be going to.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 02:19 AM JoeFlix Says:

Reply to #127  
Shirat Rosh Says:

The concept of giving pidyon to a zadik, usually accompanied by a kvittel, was introduced by Reb Elimelech of Lyzinsk - the Noam Elimelech - beginning in about 1772.

Giving a Pidyon to a REAL Tzadik whon NEVER kept one penny of it and gave it to the poor, sick and needy - VS- paying for their own luxuries

I think the Skulener is the ONLY big rebbe who doesn't have a private car, and believe me he deserves it!!!

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 01:50 AM Anonymous Says:

While clever I think it unfair to post a picture of lipa on this story, he really doesn’t deserve more flack than he already got – and an important fact!!! He has nothing to do w/ it!!!

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 01:44 AM Kiruv Says:

My chaver ( a chusid) works with teenagers who have dropped out from chassidishe homes.
He claims part of the problem is that many chassidim speak about Rebbes as if they would be the RS"O. This is a major problem as there is nothing wrong to question a Rebbe especially the "fake" ones. If we censor this all we achieve is our children stop believing in a Rebbe so we have taught them that they have made a terrible aveira- so the rest goies as well. The message must be all Rebbelech/Chumros are optional but som e things like Shabbos/basic kashrus/Tefilla are not negotiable.

Once we call OU treifa we invite these poor frustrated kids to go and eat treifa etc.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 01:42 AM TR DICE Says:

Hey this is great!!! Shauly Keep on rockin'!!!

If the people would only see thru those rebbes...

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 01:41 AM Welcome to the Real World Says:

Reply to #131  
Anonymous Says:

I am an Orthodox Jew who does not live in the tri state area and does not follow a rebbe. Therefore, I was completely unaware that this 'lavish' lifestyle existed amongst some rebbes. I am not happy that I now 'know' about this piece of information. It is pure loshen hora and it is something that will not benefit klal yisroel in any way.
I find your site to be an invaluable news source and I enjoy visiting it. But an article such as this has no place in the pages of a website that sets the high standards that you aim to achieve. Anyone can come to read this site, Jew and Gentile alike. This loshen hora piece sheds a very negative light on Jews and will just cause more loshen hora as the story goes form second hand news to third and so forth.

There was a time where people who came form a small town like you, thought that Chassidim have horns or Goyim who thought Yidden have horns.

Now you know the real tuth so you will not faint when you visit New York and see, with your own eyes, that which everyone else in the world, knew about, long before this article was ever published.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Something which tens of thousands of people knew, (long before this article was published), obviousely is not Loshon Hora.

Just because you didn't know, that which is common knowledge, doesn't make it Loshon Hora.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 01:36 AM My Opinion Says:

This is great... VIN you are 1000% right for not censoring your news... This infighting and power struggle within the various chassidus’ is appalling and a bigger chillul hashem than people showing them what it looks like!!! Maybe if they would be held responsible for this BS and embarrassed accordingly they would watch their step. – Besides I think it’s a great parody on the original, although I would have rocked it up a little :-)

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 01:31 AM Dus is a Tzanser Chussid? Says:

Shauly Grossman sings about these Fake Rebbes and he is right about that.

But if Shauly Grossman is going to sing about fake Rebbe's he must also sing about fake Chassidm.

How can someone consider himself a "Tzandser Chusid" and not be ashamed of himself to compose a Jewish song, where the tune is taken from a Chazer Trief, Goyish, Rock Star, Menuvel?

This is a Fake Chussid, just like The Fake Rebbe's he sings about.

A Real Chusid knows taht he has tens of thousands of Jewish Nignunim to chose from and needs not choose Goyishe songs from Goyishe Menuvalim.

Feh !

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 09:12 AM a scorned chassideste Says:

i hate the hypocrisy some of you show on here. how many of you listen to the radio while driving? go to concerts by non jewish women? or watch movies? but are concerened where the source of music for this song came from? i happen to listen to nickelback,but enjoy listening to shloimy gertner and yoely greenfeld as well.
i love this song,its sad how so much of it is true. it's time to stop sweeping everything under the rug and face reality that there are indeed rebbes that only care about themselves. i would name names but i'm not out here to speak loshon horah b'rabim as I myself have gone through an experience where these "so called" rebbes turned me away.
so wake up and smell the roses, because roses have thorns too!

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 09:12 AM Anonymous Says:

can someone post a link from the video I serach and I don't find it !!!!!!

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 10:00 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #142  
Welcome to the Real World Says:

There was a time where people who came form a small town like you, thought that Chassidim have horns or Goyim who thought Yidden have horns.

Now you know the real tuth so you will not faint when you visit New York and see, with your own eyes, that which everyone else in the world, knew about, long before this article was ever published.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Something which tens of thousands of people knew, (long before this article was published), obviousely is not Loshon Hora.

Just because you didn't know, that which is common knowledge, doesn't make it Loshon Hora.

I don't recall ever saying I was from a small town. I am originally from NY and live in an area that is filled with New Yorkers.

However, I am a BT who has been exposed to the beautiful side of Judaism. I have a love of Yiddishkeit and Klal Yisroel that doesn't seem to be found by many of those commenting on this article.

Unlike you, who was most likely born into an insular community where you have a rebbe, I didn't have this. I don't follow a particular rebbe. I follow Torah and halacha.

Can't you see that this article and many of the comments here border on sinat chinam and are most certainly loshen hora?

I think the people who need to wake up and smell the coffee are the Yidden who continue to bash their rebbe's, other Jews who are not like them, other minhagim that are not their own, etc...

We experience enough hatred from the rest of the world because we are special. We are Hashem's beloved. We need to have complete achdus if we want Hashem's blessings. When we tear at each other, then Hashem shakes us up and lets us know that it's wrong.

Look at what is happening around you. The world is getting worse before it refines itself. Now, more than ever, we need to come together.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 10:17 AM Anonymous Says:

The song works as a satire. The video is also funny, but unfortunate because actual Rebbes are put up, which is wrong to do. A video with actors or animation would have been better.
The larger issue is what will the Charedi community do with people who are thinking what this song is saying, even if they are not watching it on the internet. What is the recourse for someone who feels his Rebbe is a faker, or at least not a Tsadik and not a good leader? Do they join another group, become frei, or more moderately religious? Do they stay in the group and be mevazeh the Rebbe in their homes?
I'm interested to know the answers to this from those of you who are in these communities.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 09:51 AM a scorned chassideste Says:

im thinking it would be a great song to do exercise to! LOL!

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 11:16 AM Anonymous Says:

I'm probably old enough to be the father of most of the people writing here and perhaps even the grandfather of some, yet I cannot recall ever hearing about the GR"A anything from any frum person of any sort like the things written here.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 11:07 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #115  
far away Says:

Well, this song and video may be entertaining for those of you fortunate to live and grow up in a comunity filled with Jews, and rebbeim.

I am ffb from a small town with only 20 frum families. mamesh a shtetle in the middle of nowhere, 300 miles from New York. But we look towards the rebbeim and gedolim for inspiration to continue with frumkeit. You dont know what it is to be Jewish until you leave New York to a small strugling Jewish community. You have everything you need, but here tzitzis cost 50 dollars, and all seforim must be ordered and come weeks late. To fight for a minyan when ever a community member leaves town, with no jews on the street to bring into shul to help.

So for me to see this garbage, it offends us and I find it saddening to see the sourc e of our chizuk bimirched in such an indignant way!

gayvah!

Sounds like you have been living 'out of town' a few minutes too long.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 11:03 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #111  
joke about satmar and lubavitch Says:

The difference b/w Lubavitch and Satmar: Even before their Rebbe was nistalek they were already fighting over the next rebbe as if he were not here. Lubavitch has pyshically lost their Rebbe, yet they keep on fighting over how Only he can be the rebbe

Yeah, right, there were no fights when the previous rebbe passed away. No fights at all. Right.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 10:28 AM the Gaon wasn't fooled by anybody Says:

Reply to #128  
The Truth Hurts Says:


Perhaps you consider it Chutzpah but it's reallyTRUE (and documented in seforim) that Vilna gaon was LIED to, by his aids and power-broker-misnagdim, who's only interest was politics and sinas chinum, who sold the Vilna Gaon, a Bube Maaseh, about "what chassidim are" which was a 100% fabrication and 100% not true at all, whatsoever.

The Vilna Gaon believed these misnagdim-liers, these EIDUS SHEKER, and he based his "Daas Torah" based on this Eidus Sheker - exactly like todays so called "Gedolim" assered Lipa Shmeltzer because of Eidus Sheker who they believed without doing a proper investigation of "Vedrashata Vechakarta Heitev".

It is not in Insult to the Vilna Gaon that some Low Life Eidus Sheker, had LIED to him - that is not his fault.

This is the PRAISE of the Vilna Gaon that he was not Chas Vesholom wrong, and so the Vilna Gaon is not Guilty because trusted these EIDUS SHEKER who told him a LIE and he had no way of knowing that the truth was 100% opposit of the Eidus Sheker.

Although the Vedrashata Vechakarta Heitev he also did not due, and he just trusted the LIARS blindly, just like today so called "Gedolim" do every day, they trust the people close to them - no matter what Bube Maaseh they sell them.

This is your excuse to justify yourself. The Vilna Gaon was fully aware of everything that was going on with the Chassidim and he wasn't tricked at all.

You're making a big mistake if you think that most gedolim are cloistered and don't know what is going on. With all the people who come to them and ask them shailos besides their ruach hakodesh they are much more aware than the average person of what goes on. That is one of the reasons that they are called ainai haeida, the eyes of the congregation. I know that whenever I ask my Rov about some new bank deal or some strategy to save taxes, he knows far more about it than most of the accountants that I talk to.

Many of the early Chassidim were very wild and some used to daven standing on their heads and doing somersaults.

At a minimum, the Gaon's resistance caused them to stay in line and not do crazy things. There is much more to say on this topic, but to slander the Gaon hakadosh and even todays Gedolim is motzi shem ra of the worst sort.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 11:58 AM ProudJew Says:

Reply to #150  
Anonymous Says:

I'm probably old enough to be the father of most of the people writing here and perhaps even the grandfather of some, yet I cannot recall ever hearing about the GR"A anything from any frum person of any sort like the things written here.

Check out the old sefer Bais Rebbe. Over there says the whole story between the GR"O and the Hassidim.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 01:39 PM nickelback Says:

it does not sound a thing like nickelback rockstar

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 02:24 PM ShatzMatz Says:

People, have you ever heard of SATIRE? That is when someone tries to convey a minor point by exagerating it to the point of where it looks even more ridiculous that it really is. There is no question that the Rebbes have well deserved the cynisism that surrounds them these days. When children grow up seeing big rebbes fighting over power, kuvod and wealth what more could they expect. Enjoy it, but dont take it too seriously.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 03:13 PM Feivel Says:

The only reason some people are upset as it is unfortunately true!
The truth hurts. Shauly has hit a raw nerve! The sooner we teach our children that there are many Tzaddikim who are not Rebbes and many Rebbes who are not Tzaddikim the less problems we will have with chinuch.

My uncle has a printing business and gets Rebbes ordering there own "Tzaddik Bo L'eer posters for when they travel out of town collecting for themselves.

The story goes that under a chupah one of the mothers was crying hysterically! She was later asked, how come by previous simchas she was never emotional? She answered that she was crying as the Rebbe had the same material for his beketche as what she had for her dress.

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 02:02 PM Anonymous Says:

listen, I know shauli very well. and he is a very smart and fine loving person. he made this song for a private collection and someone gave it out for the public. but the video was surely not him. but one thing is for sure, THIS SONG IS OVERFLOWING WITH TALENT! shuali! just keep it up! you are on the way to become a real famous PUSHITEH ROCKSTAR!! you are great! and all these comments are just making you more and more famous... we all love you!

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 03:29 PM Yasser Chusid Says:

My Rebbe is the biggest Tzzadik.
-He comes from a non religious family.
-No Yichus.
-Became a Baal Teshuva and went into the signage business.
-Couldn't make a quid so became a collector.
-Realised you can make more money being a Rebbe.
-Became Yasser Rebbe.
-Hardly knows Ivrei and nothing else.

But he is a Rebbe

Yechi Yasser RebbeYechi!

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 03:23 PM Logical Says:

Reply to #144  
Dus is a Tzanser Chussid? Says:

Shauly Grossman sings about these Fake Rebbes and he is right about that.

But if Shauly Grossman is going to sing about fake Rebbe's he must also sing about fake Chassidm.

How can someone consider himself a "Tzandser Chusid" and not be ashamed of himself to compose a Jewish song, where the tune is taken from a Chazer Trief, Goyish, Rock Star, Menuvel?

This is a Fake Chussid, just like The Fake Rebbe's he sings about.

A Real Chusid knows taht he has tens of thousands of Jewish Nignunim to chose from and needs not choose Goyishe songs from Goyishe Menuvalim.

Feh !

You are totally of track! What comparison is there? Your logic is warped!

1) Shauly does NOT call himself "Sanzer Chosid" as Rebbes swap there real names with "XYZ Rebbe" etc.
2) Shauly does not seek money, Kuvid etc. for being a 'Tzanzer Chusid'.
3) Friends of Shauly have told me that Shauly does not refer to himself as a Tzanzer Chusid just belongs to a family that have connections to Klausenburg.
4) Since when does each and every chusid need to be secrutinized compared as a self appointed Rebbele who wants to hear peoples private Tzoros and give advise. PLUS WANTS YOUR MONEY!!

You are so of track- it isn't even funny!


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 Dec 21, 2008 at 04:27 PM Anonymous Says:

it is possible that by some so called "rebbe's" this is true, however by alot of real "rebbes" - that is those that have ruach hakodesh...

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 Dec 21, 2008 at 06:52 PM pupaner Says:

beautiful song thanks

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 Dec 22, 2008 at 12:04 AM Anonymous Says:

A rebbe I greatly admired said that the essence of Hassidus is revolution. The Baal Shem Tov's position was not inherited by his children. Nor did rebbes at that time receive a pidyon. Those practices only came about a few generations later, and hence, a new hassidus was needed. Hopefully, we won't have to wait for mashiach for this new hassidus to arrive. As for Shauly's song, I'll let others comment.

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 Dec 22, 2008 at 11:05 AM From a Rebbe Says:

Mt friends grandfather is a chassidishe Rebbe. My friend played him this song to which he commented Oy vi Emes- ober nisht bay alla. (Oh how true- but not by all)

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 Dec 22, 2008 at 04:53 PM shmechel Says:

The source of this song is from Knickelback: Rockstar. To hear the original song go to youtube and search for Knickelback Rockstar What a shame

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 Dec 22, 2008 at 05:55 PM Anonymous Says:

the truth is finally being said! and for all of u that disagree.... Chanuka is a great time to go shtiebel hopping and find out!

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 Dec 23, 2008 at 02:22 AM Grossman Chusid. Says:

My Rebbe is Shauly!!

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 02:12 AM a rebbe Says:

Reply to #34  
Anonymous Says:

a piece of garbage

I don't understand what the fuss is all about? Everyone can call himself a rebbe regardless if he knows anything or not! The gemora says in buba metzieh that resh lokish was a rebbe for the theives before he became a talud chochom, also the gemora says in nedorim the torah is not a yerusha therfore if someone calls himself a rebbe it does not contradict anything, wether he deseves it or not he wants to be areebe let him be for himself. If other people want to follow idiots (not all the rebbes are like that) what do you care? Let them do whatever they want! They enjoy it too! You can make a joke to yourself about some nuts, but don't try to offend other people! The song title is I want to be a rebbe, well, you could be one! There are no requirements unless you call yourself a talmud chochom or posek! So bottom line the rebbes are absolutley right for living in such luxury, because other people give to them! Try it, maybe you'll find some people who are willing to give you too and then judge them!

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 Dec 06, 2009 at 12:41 AM Anonymous Says:

even fake rebbes are fun to watch. they look cool, and do all the moves better than real rebbes, as they are better actors!

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