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Guatemala City - Guatemalan Police Raid Lev Tahor Buildings As Allegations Of Child Abuse Surface

Published on: September 13, 2016 01:04 PM
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Guatemala City - Two years after members of the controversial Lev Tahor Chasidic group were expelled from a Guatemalan town located roughly midway between Guatemala City and the Pacific Ocean, the group has run into trouble yet again, as authorities executed a raid today, looking for evidence of child abuse.

According to Guatemalan news paper Prensa Libre, authorities at the Guatemala City Office of Children and Adolescents received a complaint that could involve as many as 50 to 60 children, ranging in age from babies to 17 years old. 

Authorities were investigating complaints that the children were living in conditions that were described as “subhuman.”  Guatemala’s Publinews reported that some children may have been beaten while others may have been drugged.

Another source said that the raid involved a minor child who was taken illegally out of Israel and had joined the Lev Tahor group.

Six different buildings were raided by police in Guatemala City’s Zone 9.  Some Lev Tahor members objected to the action, saying they were not allowed to contact their lawyers and were told they would be shot if they attempted to call anyone.

Medical personnel have been called in to evaluate the children and if evidence of abuse is found, the children could be removed by the Attorney General’s Office to shelters.

As previously reported on VIN News(http://bit.ly/2cpmoix), 230 members of the group who had been living in San Juan La Laguna were forced out of the Guatemalan-Indian village in August 2014 after being unable to resolve their differences with the local indigenous population.  The Council of Indigenous Elders said that the Jewish community was guilty of discrimination and violating Mayan customs and Jewish leaders in the area said that they had been threatened with hangings.


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1

 Sep 13, 2016 at 01:35 PM LockHelbransup Says:

Klal yisroel has an achryaus to warn everyone and dissolve this cult once and for alll Helbrans is a dangerous man. Do we need to wait for a tragett lo alinu to occur?

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 Sep 13, 2016 at 02:57 PM nebach Says:

these confused and brainwashed souls wont let anybody help them the children are "real modern day TINOK shenishbeu bein haakum- very questionable if these children can be rehabilitated " yeder shmoiger far zich toig er" rachmanus helbrans is not even there

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 Sep 13, 2016 at 03:02 PM Yossi Says:

all who remember Jim Jones in the 70's can understand what Helbrans is doing.
The only place they survived till now is in very poor countries with no sufficent money to break them up, finally they breaking it all up.

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 Sep 13, 2016 at 04:06 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
LockHelbransup Says:

Klal yisroel has an achryaus to warn everyone and dissolve this cult once and for alll Helbrans is a dangerous man. Do we need to wait for a tragett lo alinu to occur?

it has already occurred. no one in the frum world is doing anything about this bizarre and dangerous group of people.

5

 Sep 13, 2016 at 04:31 PM commonsense99 Says:

wow! what a surprise, I am shocked to hear this, lets see Israel, us, Canada and now this, where is the next place he will run to? Venezuela? Uganda? North Korea?

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 Sep 13, 2016 at 04:41 PM SeekingTruth2626 Says:

As I watch again and again the news surrounding Lev Tahor I am disgusted how my neighbors and fellow commentera actually allow themselves to fullibly beleive and accept everything that's written at face value

What is more appalling, is the fact that thruout the generationa of violence against Jews there were no facts of blood taking from murdered christian children, yet time agaiam and again the allegations "resurfaced" and pogroms were common.

When will wake up to defend a Jewish community that has done nothing wrong, and celebrate any negative report as facts, yet in the same time, any positive report, is considered a lie, and the author a 'sick' individual????

How long will we allow for the same government entities to instigate an international manhunt and destroy families for no reason other than their dress code?

Are we as an orthodox Jewish community immune to such scrutiny? Do we want for the government to interfere with our education and daily life? Isn't there enough dissidents and angry individuals blaspheming the Orthodox community?

Why, oh why, do we applaud and laugh when are indergping such torture???

Why don't we stand up against the injustice?

Why don't we bother getting the facts straight?

Why don't we bother to verify if these people are truly human as they claim???

Why do we allow them by default to be guilty until proven innocent??



עתידים אנו ליתן את הדין

לא תעמוד על דם ריעך
Since the holocaust, not a single Jewish community was persecuted as much as Lev Tahor.

Since the holocaust, not a single community was subject to so many blood libels and uprooting from one place to another.

It is deplorable how our math skills let us stoop so low as to allow our fellow brothers to be כצאן לטבח יובל למכה ולחרפה.

Here is the formula that allows us to stand by idly - guilt free:

Mosrim + rumors + news reports = Facts

This vicious cycle allows us to lead our lives knowing that a group of G-D fearing Jews are constantly being hunted down by secular elements in the Jewish community, and feel we have the right to not only allow it, but also to encourage the persecution and strengthen the Machlokes and שפיכת דמים.

Not once has their been a fair two-way conversation surrounding Lev Tahor, Mishpacha magazine did not even respect the journalistic norm of having the other side express their point.

Many Rabbonim will not express their concerns for fear it will backfire and affect their support and fundraising efforts. This element of silence allows us to cowardly recommend the most sadistic measures and punishment against our fellow brothers and sisters.

When a mattress store shuts down due to a viral ad due to frivolous mention of 9/11, a community is being dubbed by Israeli media as the "Taliban" and nobody says a word about the frivolous mention of term and what is represents.

I urge my fellow yiden before Yom Hadin to please wake up and smell the coffee.

This is the least I can do to declare:

I WILL NOT FOLLOW KORACH'S WAY.

7

 Sep 13, 2016 at 05:00 PM alterknaker Says:

Reply to #6  
SeekingTruth2626 Says:

As I watch again and again the news surrounding Lev Tahor I am disgusted how my neighbors and fellow commentera actually allow themselves to fullibly beleive and accept everything that's written at face value

What is more appalling, is the fact that thruout the generationa of violence against Jews there were no facts of blood taking from murdered christian children, yet time agaiam and again the allegations "resurfaced" and pogroms were common.

When will wake up to defend a Jewish community that has done nothing wrong, and celebrate any negative report as facts, yet in the same time, any positive report, is considered a lie, and the author a 'sick' individual????

How long will we allow for the same government entities to instigate an international manhunt and destroy families for no reason other than their dress code?

Are we as an orthodox Jewish community immune to such scrutiny? Do we want for the government to interfere with our education and daily life? Isn't there enough dissidents and angry individuals blaspheming the Orthodox community?

Why, oh why, do we applaud and laugh when are indergping such torture???

Why don't we stand up against the injustice?

Why don't we bother getting the facts straight?

Why don't we bother to verify if these people are truly human as they claim???

Why do we allow them by default to be guilty until proven innocent??



עתידים אנו ליתן את הדין

לא תעמוד על דם ריעך
Since the holocaust, not a single Jewish community was persecuted as much as Lev Tahor.

Since the holocaust, not a single community was subject to so many blood libels and uprooting from one place to another.

It is deplorable how our math skills let us stoop so low as to allow our fellow brothers to be כצאן לטבח יובל למכה ולחרפה.

Here is the formula that allows us to stand by idly - guilt free:

Mosrim + rumors + news reports = Facts

This vicious cycle allows us to lead our lives knowing that a group of G-D fearing Jews are constantly being hunted down by secular elements in the Jewish community, and feel we have the right to not only allow it, but also to encourage the persecution and strengthen the Machlokes and שפיכת דמים.

Not once has their been a fair two-way conversation surrounding Lev Tahor, Mishpacha magazine did not even respect the journalistic norm of having the other side express their point.

Many Rabbonim will not express their concerns for fear it will backfire and affect their support and fundraising efforts. This element of silence allows us to cowardly recommend the most sadistic measures and punishment against our fellow brothers and sisters.

When a mattress store shuts down due to a viral ad due to frivolous mention of 9/11, a community is being dubbed by Israeli media as the "Taliban" and nobody says a word about the frivolous mention of term and what is represents.

I urge my fellow yiden before Yom Hadin to please wake up and smell the coffee.

This is the least I can do to declare:

I WILL NOT FOLLOW KORACH'S WAY.

It's a דור עיקש ופתלתול, you are so right, we never bother listening to the other side of the story, we blindly believe the FARSHOLTENE, media,

8

 Sep 13, 2016 at 05:17 PM Anonymous Says:

Keep your eyes on new square. Same thing happens there.

9

 Sep 13, 2016 at 05:22 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
SeekingTruth2626 Says:

As I watch again and again the news surrounding Lev Tahor I am disgusted how my neighbors and fellow commentera actually allow themselves to fullibly beleive and accept everything that's written at face value

What is more appalling, is the fact that thruout the generationa of violence against Jews there were no facts of blood taking from murdered christian children, yet time agaiam and again the allegations "resurfaced" and pogroms were common.

When will wake up to defend a Jewish community that has done nothing wrong, and celebrate any negative report as facts, yet in the same time, any positive report, is considered a lie, and the author a 'sick' individual????

How long will we allow for the same government entities to instigate an international manhunt and destroy families for no reason other than their dress code?

Are we as an orthodox Jewish community immune to such scrutiny? Do we want for the government to interfere with our education and daily life? Isn't there enough dissidents and angry individuals blaspheming the Orthodox community?

Why, oh why, do we applaud and laugh when are indergping such torture???

Why don't we stand up against the injustice?

Why don't we bother getting the facts straight?

Why don't we bother to verify if these people are truly human as they claim???

Why do we allow them by default to be guilty until proven innocent??



עתידים אנו ליתן את הדין

לא תעמוד על דם ריעך
Since the holocaust, not a single Jewish community was persecuted as much as Lev Tahor.

Since the holocaust, not a single community was subject to so many blood libels and uprooting from one place to another.

It is deplorable how our math skills let us stoop so low as to allow our fellow brothers to be כצאן לטבח יובל למכה ולחרפה.

Here is the formula that allows us to stand by idly - guilt free:

Mosrim + rumors + news reports = Facts

This vicious cycle allows us to lead our lives knowing that a group of G-D fearing Jews are constantly being hunted down by secular elements in the Jewish community, and feel we have the right to not only allow it, but also to encourage the persecution and strengthen the Machlokes and שפיכת דמים.

Not once has their been a fair two-way conversation surrounding Lev Tahor, Mishpacha magazine did not even respect the journalistic norm of having the other side express their point.

Many Rabbonim will not express their concerns for fear it will backfire and affect their support and fundraising efforts. This element of silence allows us to cowardly recommend the most sadistic measures and punishment against our fellow brothers and sisters.

When a mattress store shuts down due to a viral ad due to frivolous mention of 9/11, a community is being dubbed by Israeli media as the "Taliban" and nobody says a word about the frivolous mention of term and what is represents.

I urge my fellow yiden before Yom Hadin to please wake up and smell the coffee.

This is the least I can do to declare:

I WILL NOT FOLLOW KORACH'S WAY.

Lev tahor is a cult end of story. I daven this rosh hahsana that it get shut down. helbrans is a dangerous man.

10

 Sep 13, 2016 at 05:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
SeekingTruth2626 Says:

As I watch again and again the news surrounding Lev Tahor I am disgusted how my neighbors and fellow commentera actually allow themselves to fullibly beleive and accept everything that's written at face value

What is more appalling, is the fact that thruout the generationa of violence against Jews there were no facts of blood taking from murdered christian children, yet time agaiam and again the allegations "resurfaced" and pogroms were common.

When will wake up to defend a Jewish community that has done nothing wrong, and celebrate any negative report as facts, yet in the same time, any positive report, is considered a lie, and the author a 'sick' individual????

How long will we allow for the same government entities to instigate an international manhunt and destroy families for no reason other than their dress code?

Are we as an orthodox Jewish community immune to such scrutiny? Do we want for the government to interfere with our education and daily life? Isn't there enough dissidents and angry individuals blaspheming the Orthodox community?

Why, oh why, do we applaud and laugh when are indergping such torture???

Why don't we stand up against the injustice?

Why don't we bother getting the facts straight?

Why don't we bother to verify if these people are truly human as they claim???

Why do we allow them by default to be guilty until proven innocent??



עתידים אנו ליתן את הדין

לא תעמוד על דם ריעך
Since the holocaust, not a single Jewish community was persecuted as much as Lev Tahor.

Since the holocaust, not a single community was subject to so many blood libels and uprooting from one place to another.

It is deplorable how our math skills let us stoop so low as to allow our fellow brothers to be כצאן לטבח יובל למכה ולחרפה.

Here is the formula that allows us to stand by idly - guilt free:

Mosrim + rumors + news reports = Facts

This vicious cycle allows us to lead our lives knowing that a group of G-D fearing Jews are constantly being hunted down by secular elements in the Jewish community, and feel we have the right to not only allow it, but also to encourage the persecution and strengthen the Machlokes and שפיכת דמים.

Not once has their been a fair two-way conversation surrounding Lev Tahor, Mishpacha magazine did not even respect the journalistic norm of having the other side express their point.

Many Rabbonim will not express their concerns for fear it will backfire and affect their support and fundraising efforts. This element of silence allows us to cowardly recommend the most sadistic measures and punishment against our fellow brothers and sisters.

When a mattress store shuts down due to a viral ad due to frivolous mention of 9/11, a community is being dubbed by Israeli media as the "Taliban" and nobody says a word about the frivolous mention of term and what is represents.

I urge my fellow yiden before Yom Hadin to please wake up and smell the coffee.

This is the least I can do to declare:

I WILL NOT FOLLOW KORACH'S WAY.

You my friend are the problem hiding behind a religious title, to scared and not willing to look deep and find the truth. no one cares how religious you are but if your are evil you should be prosecuted. I know the known leader of the group personally and i can speak clearly and say he belongs in Jail. don't speak or defend anyone you don't know personally because in the mean time more and more innocent children are being hurt all in the name of G-d. take care of your own family and be a kind human being to the ones you encounter in this life.

11

 Sep 13, 2016 at 05:36 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
SeekingTruth2626 Says:

As I watch again and again the news surrounding Lev Tahor I am disgusted how my neighbors and fellow commentera actually allow themselves to fullibly beleive and accept everything that's written at face value

What is more appalling, is the fact that thruout the generationa of violence against Jews there were no facts of blood taking from murdered christian children, yet time agaiam and again the allegations "resurfaced" and pogroms were common.

When will wake up to defend a Jewish community that has done nothing wrong, and celebrate any negative report as facts, yet in the same time, any positive report, is considered a lie, and the author a 'sick' individual????

How long will we allow for the same government entities to instigate an international manhunt and destroy families for no reason other than their dress code?

Are we as an orthodox Jewish community immune to such scrutiny? Do we want for the government to interfere with our education and daily life? Isn't there enough dissidents and angry individuals blaspheming the Orthodox community?

Why, oh why, do we applaud and laugh when are indergping such torture???

Why don't we stand up against the injustice?

Why don't we bother getting the facts straight?

Why don't we bother to verify if these people are truly human as they claim???

Why do we allow them by default to be guilty until proven innocent??



עתידים אנו ליתן את הדין

לא תעמוד על דם ריעך
Since the holocaust, not a single Jewish community was persecuted as much as Lev Tahor.

Since the holocaust, not a single community was subject to so many blood libels and uprooting from one place to another.

It is deplorable how our math skills let us stoop so low as to allow our fellow brothers to be כצאן לטבח יובל למכה ולחרפה.

Here is the formula that allows us to stand by idly - guilt free:

Mosrim + rumors + news reports = Facts

This vicious cycle allows us to lead our lives knowing that a group of G-D fearing Jews are constantly being hunted down by secular elements in the Jewish community, and feel we have the right to not only allow it, but also to encourage the persecution and strengthen the Machlokes and שפיכת דמים.

Not once has their been a fair two-way conversation surrounding Lev Tahor, Mishpacha magazine did not even respect the journalistic norm of having the other side express their point.

Many Rabbonim will not express their concerns for fear it will backfire and affect their support and fundraising efforts. This element of silence allows us to cowardly recommend the most sadistic measures and punishment against our fellow brothers and sisters.

When a mattress store shuts down due to a viral ad due to frivolous mention of 9/11, a community is being dubbed by Israeli media as the "Taliban" and nobody says a word about the frivolous mention of term and what is represents.

I urge my fellow yiden before Yom Hadin to please wake up and smell the coffee.

This is the least I can do to declare:

I WILL NOT FOLLOW KORACH'S WAY.

While I do understand your sentiment of not believing the rumors, however, as an unbiased reader, who has seen the Ami & Mishpacha article, as well as watched the CBC report on the group, it is clear "something" is up. There is an accepted norm in our society and world - and anyone who deviates from that, to either extreme, must be suspect. All the more so, when there are insiders who have reported about issues that would raise concern with any normal person.

There are children involved and that is what drives most people to be extremely concerned - and worry if they need to act to protect those children. Gedalya was chastised for not protecting himself from the threat of being killed. When there are concerns of safety, proactive protection is necessary. People may be confusing this with fully believing all the details and rumors, however the group has a history, and most people to believe - "where there's smoke, there's fire".

Something is clearly fishy.

12

 Sep 13, 2016 at 06:30 PM jack-l Says:

Reply to #6  
SeekingTruth2626 Says:

As I watch again and again the news surrounding Lev Tahor I am disgusted how my neighbors and fellow commentera actually allow themselves to fullibly beleive and accept everything that's written at face value

What is more appalling, is the fact that thruout the generationa of violence against Jews there were no facts of blood taking from murdered christian children, yet time agaiam and again the allegations "resurfaced" and pogroms were common.

When will wake up to defend a Jewish community that has done nothing wrong, and celebrate any negative report as facts, yet in the same time, any positive report, is considered a lie, and the author a 'sick' individual????

How long will we allow for the same government entities to instigate an international manhunt and destroy families for no reason other than their dress code?

Are we as an orthodox Jewish community immune to such scrutiny? Do we want for the government to interfere with our education and daily life? Isn't there enough dissidents and angry individuals blaspheming the Orthodox community?

Why, oh why, do we applaud and laugh when are indergping such torture???

Why don't we stand up against the injustice?

Why don't we bother getting the facts straight?

Why don't we bother to verify if these people are truly human as they claim???

Why do we allow them by default to be guilty until proven innocent??



עתידים אנו ליתן את הדין

לא תעמוד על דם ריעך
Since the holocaust, not a single Jewish community was persecuted as much as Lev Tahor.

Since the holocaust, not a single community was subject to so many blood libels and uprooting from one place to another.

It is deplorable how our math skills let us stoop so low as to allow our fellow brothers to be כצאן לטבח יובל למכה ולחרפה.

Here is the formula that allows us to stand by idly - guilt free:

Mosrim + rumors + news reports = Facts

This vicious cycle allows us to lead our lives knowing that a group of G-D fearing Jews are constantly being hunted down by secular elements in the Jewish community, and feel we have the right to not only allow it, but also to encourage the persecution and strengthen the Machlokes and שפיכת דמים.

Not once has their been a fair two-way conversation surrounding Lev Tahor, Mishpacha magazine did not even respect the journalistic norm of having the other side express their point.

Many Rabbonim will not express their concerns for fear it will backfire and affect their support and fundraising efforts. This element of silence allows us to cowardly recommend the most sadistic measures and punishment against our fellow brothers and sisters.

When a mattress store shuts down due to a viral ad due to frivolous mention of 9/11, a community is being dubbed by Israeli media as the "Taliban" and nobody says a word about the frivolous mention of term and what is represents.

I urge my fellow yiden before Yom Hadin to please wake up and smell the coffee.

This is the least I can do to declare:

I WILL NOT FOLLOW KORACH'S WAY.

you a fellow jew are out of your ever loving mind.
either that or you are one of them.
we in Toronto and Montreal know first hand that children are being abused.

13

 Sep 13, 2016 at 06:31 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
alterknaker Says:

It's a דור עיקש ופתלתול, you are so right, we never bother listening to the other side of the story, we blindly believe the FARSHOLTENE, media,

you always listen to the other side when it suits you.

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 Sep 13, 2016 at 06:41 PM SeekingTruth2626 Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

While I do understand your sentiment of not believing the rumors, however, as an unbiased reader, who has seen the Ami & Mishpacha article, as well as watched the CBC report on the group, it is clear "something" is up. There is an accepted norm in our society and world - and anyone who deviates from that, to either extreme, must be suspect. All the more so, when there are insiders who have reported about issues that would raise concern with any normal person.

There are children involved and that is what drives most people to be extremely concerned - and worry if they need to act to protect those children. Gedalya was chastised for not protecting himself from the threat of being killed. When there are concerns of safety, proactive protection is necessary. People may be confusing this with fully believing all the details and rumors, however the group has a history, and most people to believe - "where there's smoke, there's fire".

Something is clearly fishy.

I guess all all the Germans who beleived Hitler's propaganda about the Jews and justified "if there's smoke there's fire". Why are they wrong, when the trusted media claimed the same allegations?

I guess the pogroms were justified too, the court system found the Jews guilty. If there's smoke there's fire, no?

Perhaps hate is the only driving force, and allegations basee solely on such a foundation???

I'm pinching myself to see if I'm nuts, I ask my business partner at the office if I'm normal, he and other friends share the same sentiments, yet no one bothers balance the conversation.

When will the madness come to an end??

When someone bashes to the point of well the media says.....

Thats exactly my point.

Hot air + hot air = Facts.

Simply sickening.

15

 Sep 13, 2016 at 06:47 PM AuthenticSatmar Says:

I bet these kids are living in better conditions than most kids in the county.

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 Sep 13, 2016 at 09:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
SeekingTruth2626 Says:

I guess all all the Germans who beleived Hitler's propaganda about the Jews and justified "if there's smoke there's fire". Why are they wrong, when the trusted media claimed the same allegations?

I guess the pogroms were justified too, the court system found the Jews guilty. If there's smoke there's fire, no?

Perhaps hate is the only driving force, and allegations basee solely on such a foundation???

I'm pinching myself to see if I'm nuts, I ask my business partner at the office if I'm normal, he and other friends share the same sentiments, yet no one bothers balance the conversation.

When will the madness come to an end??

When someone bashes to the point of well the media says.....

Thats exactly my point.

Hot air + hot air = Facts.

Simply sickening.

You are clearly trying to defend the organization at all costs. Your logic is flawed. Believing propaganda /= trying to protect innocent children from being abused and brainwashed. Safety and taking precautions /= hate.

You must be a shill from said cult - or have some other agenda. Any level-headed person can see right through you; especially, since you pushed this agenda to the level of pogroms, the Holocaust, blood libels etc.; in addition to claiming "Since the holocaust, not a single community was subject to so many blood libels and uprooting from one place to another."

One does not simply choose to disregard the law, kidnap children and engage in seriously questionable behavior, yet claim to be persecuted. If you park at the pump and get your car towed, you aren't persecuted, even if it happens every single day in every city on planet Earth.

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 Sep 13, 2016 at 09:56 PM commonsense99 Says:

Reply to #14  
SeekingTruth2626 Says:

I guess all all the Germans who beleived Hitler's propaganda about the Jews and justified "if there's smoke there's fire". Why are they wrong, when the trusted media claimed the same allegations?

I guess the pogroms were justified too, the court system found the Jews guilty. If there's smoke there's fire, no?

Perhaps hate is the only driving force, and allegations basee solely on such a foundation???

I'm pinching myself to see if I'm nuts, I ask my business partner at the office if I'm normal, he and other friends share the same sentiments, yet no one bothers balance the conversation.

When will the madness come to an end??

When someone bashes to the point of well the media says.....

Thats exactly my point.

Hot air + hot air = Facts.

Simply sickening.

kol hamirachim al hachzaer.....................................

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 Sep 13, 2016 at 11:26 PM Seeking Real truth Says:

Reply to #14  
SeekingTruth2626 Says:

I guess all all the Germans who beleived Hitler's propaganda about the Jews and justified "if there's smoke there's fire". Why are they wrong, when the trusted media claimed the same allegations?

I guess the pogroms were justified too, the court system found the Jews guilty. If there's smoke there's fire, no?

Perhaps hate is the only driving force, and allegations basee solely on such a foundation???

I'm pinching myself to see if I'm nuts, I ask my business partner at the office if I'm normal, he and other friends share the same sentiments, yet no one bothers balance the conversation.

When will the madness come to an end??

When someone bashes to the point of well the media says.....

Thats exactly my point.

Hot air + hot air = Facts.

Simply sickening.

Ok answer the follwing questions lets talk Truth,
1) Did Helbrans change the chumash from chumash and rashi to chumash and helbrans perush???
2) Do all families who become his chasidim have to sign over their bak accounts and money to the chief? Are they soley submissive to him? Is it true that the only way they get food is via Helbrans himself?
3)Does Helbrans prescribe drugs to his people? (anti-depressant etc...)
4) Are disobedient kids punished via abusive force?

If it looks like a cult and smells like a cult it is one.

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 Sep 14, 2016 at 12:45 AM me Says:

"Lev Tahor Chasidic group"??

why slander chassidic groups by making a comparison?
1. this isn't a group that follows any chassidic teachings and
2. it isn't a group; it is a CULT.

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 Sep 14, 2016 at 02:08 AM clear_facts Says:

Reply to #16  
Anonymous Says:

You are clearly trying to defend the organization at all costs. Your logic is flawed. Believing propaganda /= trying to protect innocent children from being abused and brainwashed. Safety and taking precautions /= hate.

You must be a shill from said cult - or have some other agenda. Any level-headed person can see right through you; especially, since you pushed this agenda to the level of pogroms, the Holocaust, blood libels etc.; in addition to claiming "Since the holocaust, not a single community was subject to so many blood libels and uprooting from one place to another."

One does not simply choose to disregard the law, kidnap children and engage in seriously questionable behavior, yet claim to be persecuted. If you park at the pump and get your car towed, you aren't persecuted, even if it happens every single day in every city on planet Earth.

Here is a quote from a newspaper report that stopped Canadian new rumors against lev tahor. Why not here!!!
'Canada Didn't Want Them': Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Sect Vows Never to ...: The report makes several recommendations to agencies in Quebec and Ontario, including that they agree to uphold each other's child protection orders, but Lev Tahor's legal representative in Toronto, Guidy Mamann, told VICE News the report just further proves the group's claims that they do not abuse their children. The reason it took so long for police and child protection to respond, he said, is there was nothing for them to go on in the first place.
"The findings are remarkable because the commission acknowledged that [child protection services] was involved in investigating the Lev Tahor community for 17 months and they still found no evidence they considered actionable. They also confirmed that the police conducted a criminal investigation and the criminal investigation came up empty," he said. According to Mamann, the commission did not contact him or anyone from Lev Tahor for the report.
"That points to the fact that they're not looking for answers. They're looking for someone to blame,"

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 Sep 14, 2016 at 05:35 AM SRRLD Says:

Any cult is a mental deviation...with a demagogue at its head. Just investigate, it cannot come out clean

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 Sep 14, 2016 at 09:14 AM RocklandRes Says:

Reply to #5  
commonsense99 Says:

wow! what a surprise, I am shocked to hear this, lets see Israel, us, Canada and now this, where is the next place he will run to? Venezuela? Uganda? North Korea?

New Square?

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