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Jerusalem - Hamodia Israel Apologizes To Its Readers After Its Newspaper Posts Non-Kosher Recipe

Published on: February 10, 2009 08:02 AM
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Jerusalem - Members of the ultra-Orthodox community opening the weekend edition of haredi daily Hamodia in search of a recipe for a good Shabbat meal last week were shocked to find a recipe for stir-fried chicken noodles with none other than dairy Feta cheese - a combination that is against the rules of kashrut and is strictly forbidden.

Recipe sections in family editions in the haredi sector are enjoying rising popularity, and just about every ultra-Orthodox publication includes such a section.
Last week, however, an unpleasant mishap occurred with one of Hamodia’s Habayit Shelanu (“our home”) family edition’s recipes.
The daily’s loyal readers discovered that one of the recipes for stir-fried chicken with noodles and vegetables came with a recommendation to serve the meaty dish with a large tablespoon of Feta cheese cubes in every plate.

Furious readers flooded the paper with letters and phone calls in protest of the combination of meat and milk, which is absolutely forbidden in Judaism.
“I am simply stunned. The spiritual committee that goes over every letter and line in the paper should have prevented this,” said M., a loyal reader.

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modia staff quickly published an apology from the Afikim Advertising company that is responsible for the recipes:

“The serving suggestion appearing in this recipe belongs to another recipe and was accidentally printed twice. We apologize for the mishap.”


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 Feb 10, 2009 at 07:09 AM Anonymous Says:

The recipe is simply copied from a secular source.
The biggest joke of all is that the ranninate actually reviews the paper.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 07:08 AM cook Says:

Oh, what's the beef? Obviously this was a mistake. Can't these women figure it out without having to scream like lunatics? Anyone who reads Hamodia, which never publishes pictures of women, knows they would never deliberately print anything so obviously wrong.

Give it up already & relax. Go back to cooking your chulent & kigel. Leave the fancy recipes for others if they make you so hysterical.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 07:06 AM Anonymous Says:

Why the big tismos over an honest mistake. Most yidden would not care that much and those that are shomer kashruth would immediately recognize the error and either substitute a parve (soy-based) cheese or just leave the cheese out of the recipe. Not worth making a big deal about such minor mistakes.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 07:26 AM Anonymous Says:

Since Hamodia is controlled by a certain well known Chassidic group, perhaps they have found a heter for that like they found a heter work against a frum cantidate for mayor of Jerusalem

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 07:23 AM Anonymous Says:

let the hamodia apologize for the j'lem mayoral election

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 07:16 AM Anonymous Says:

"Furious readers flooded the paper with letters and phone calls in protest of the combination of meat and milk, which is absolutely forbidden in Judaism.

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"I am simply stunned. The spiritual committee that goes over every letter and line in the paper should have prevented this," said M., a loyal reader."
Even the least sophisticated balabustas would immediately know this was a simple mistake and not mix milchichs and fleishigs in the same dish. That they have so much time on their hands to make calls and write letters over such a minor error is an indication of their misplaced priorities. I suspect most simply substitute a parve version of the Feta cheese and prepared a wonderful an delicious meal for their mishpacha without screaming "gevalt" or "treifus".

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 07:32 AM murray Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

let the hamodia apologize for the j'lem mayoral election

they should have shoe-fulls of (feta) cheese thrown at them

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 07:29 AM iib001 Says:

Big deal they made a mistake which we all have done from time to time in our life.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 07:57 AM Anonymous Says:

Are they afraid that maybe some readers decided that there was a one time heter from the rabbonim for this special dish and will now expect the "treife special of the month" with a similiar heter and look for a new recipe each month mixing milchig and fleishig?

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 07:57 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
Anonymous Says:

"Furious readers flooded the paper with letters and phone calls in protest of the combination of meat and milk, which is absolutely forbidden in Judaism.

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"I am simply stunned. The spiritual committee that goes over every letter and line in the paper should have prevented this," said M., a loyal reader."
Even the least sophisticated balabustas would immediately know this was a simple mistake and not mix milchichs and fleishigs in the same dish. That they have so much time on their hands to make calls and write letters over such a minor error is an indication of their misplaced priorities. I suspect most simply substitute a parve version of the Feta cheese and prepared a wonderful an delicious meal for their mishpacha without screaming "gevalt" or "treifus".

Its pretty crazy how easily people throw around their words. Were you really 'stunned'. I personally see absolutely no purpose in reporting a segment as such which might border on lashon horah. An honest mistake on a recipe doesn't have to be reprimanded as if they had some effect on an election or the such!

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 08:03 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

Its pretty crazy how easily people throw around their words. Were you really 'stunned'. I personally see absolutely no purpose in reporting a segment as such which might border on lashon horah. An honest mistake on a recipe doesn't have to be reprimanded as if they had some effect on an election or the such!

It was all part of a plot on the day before the electiosn in EY to sow distrust of the heimeshe institutions and push voters to cast a ballot for the secular parties...for Shame!!!

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 08:00 AM David Says:

If you can vote during shiva you can have cheese with chicken

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 08:10 AM Burech Says:

I can just imagine the atheist_ leftist writers of ynet's faces jump with glee over this 'scandal'. I'm surprised they didn't top off the article with 'Hundreds of "ultra-orthodox" are now rioting in the streets of jerusalem!'

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 08:26 AM everyone Says:

Hamodia is a one sided paper, even though they say that they don't involve in any politics that is an out right lie, t's about time we do some thing about it and boy cot them!!!

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 08:24 AM robroy560 Says:

Reply to #7  
murray Says:

they should have shoe-fulls of (feta) cheese thrown at them

Good one Murray. Seriously, this was just simply a case of poor editing. Kudos the posters who pointed out that this was a mistake.

However, my wife found an online cookbook of recipes from my bubbe. Plently of treife recipes... so be careful. But as some here posted, you can find plently of parve substitutes for dairy ingredients - Smart Balance for butter, so many soy cheeses are available, soy or rice milk, etc.

Also if you want real cheese, you can use tofu or seitan (totally parve wheat protein) can be used for your meat substitute. I found seitan with a Star-K hechsher. I learned from a vegatarian cooking show that seitan be prepared to taste like chazer (e.g. a 'pulled pork bbq' sandwich), or made into meatballs (I had this once - tasted almost like real meat).

So people need to relax and worry about other things.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 08:15 AM Anonymous Says:

Some of you make fun of such an error but chas vachlilah that even one poor yiddeshe family might have eaten treifus because of their blind trust of anything that is presented in Hamodia is a terrible outcome and means we must all be mispalel on thier behalf and say a kapitol tehilim to hashem so they not suffer bad outcomes from such a terrible mistake by the editors.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 08:46 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
Anonymous Says:

Are they afraid that maybe some readers decided that there was a one time heter from the rabbonim for this special dish and will now expect the "treife special of the month" with a similiar heter and look for a new recipe each month mixing milchig and fleishig?

problem is that hamodia considers themselves dass toira so I can see why people are confused. if the gerorist hamodia paper oks meat and milk then why question them.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 09:13 AM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

problem is that hamodia considers themselves dass toira so I can see why people are confused. if the gerorist hamodia paper oks meat and milk then why question them.

I'm certain that even the most devout Ger Chasidim would not be so dumb as to accept a monthy heter from the Gerrer Rebbe, Z'tl to eat treifus....I hope you are joking about these chasidim thinking their rebbe would have a new revelation that treifus is no longer assur

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 09:11 AM moishe Says:

I'm sure they take a not kosher recipe that they figure you will never find and then take the credit for it. this time they got busted when they forgot to take out the cheese!

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 09:07 AM Anonymous Says:

I think the worst part of this story is that it means someone is getting paid to copy and paste recipes without even reading them. If a person has a job to do, they should really put their full effort into the job and not try to get by with copy and paste. (Not to mention that copying and pasting recipes violates copyright laws!)

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 09:44 AM Anonymous Says:

Look, raboisai -- we need to be dan l'kaf zchus. I think they were obviously referring to the new soy feta that is all the rage, or else fleishig feta made from the udder of a properly shechted sheep.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 09:43 AM Anonymous Says:

The issue isn't the article. The issue is in general if the editing board is allowing other things through which can be assumed as accurate

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 09:22 AM Askipeh Hanidreses Says:

My take on this, is that this highlights the arrogance of many writers who think that “they-know-it-all”, and Chas VeSholom won’t lower themselves to give it to someone to proof-read. The proof-reader shouldn’t only be expert at spelling and grammar, but also needs to be a knowledgeable person. Once upon a time writers were knowledgeable people, and professional at what they did, and you respected them even if you didn’t agree with them. Nowadays with the availability of computers, every Tom, Dick, and yes, also Harry has become a writer. The problem is that many editors of newspapers aren’t better; so proof-read by a “peer” isn’t much of a help.

In this case, I don’t think anybody proof-read it, because an error in a recipe isn’t considered a big deal, so why waste someone’s time.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 09:19 AM Anonymous Says:

This is what happens when Judaism turns into a fanatical religion. Readers do not have enough common sense or knowledge to know that it is an issur deorash to eat milk and meat. Instead, they rely on rabbonim and newspaper to substitute the torah.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 10:18 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

This is what happens when Judaism turns into a fanatical religion. Readers do not have enough common sense or knowledge to know that it is an issur deorash to eat milk and meat. Instead, they rely on rabbonim and newspaper to substitute the torah.

The Torah is a "living document" and hashem has provided us with gadolei torah to tell us when "things change". While I don't think this was the case here, the Gerre Rebbe, Z'tl is clearly one of the Gadolim of the past few decades and he could posek that in certain cases eating fleishig and milchig is acceptable

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 10:18 AM Berliner Says:

Yes, it was most likely an innocent mistake but if they screened the recipes for Tarfus (an Issur DiOraysa) as carefully as they screen the photos for pictures of women (a DiRaBanan at best) the mistake would never have occurred.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #16  
Anonymous Says:

Some of you make fun of such an error but chas vachlilah that even one poor yiddeshe family might have eaten treifus because of their blind trust of anything that is presented in Hamodia is a terrible outcome and means we must all be mispalel on thier behalf and say a kapitol tehilim to hashem so they not suffer bad outcomes from such a terrible mistake by the editors.

if they did such a thing they must be deaf dumb or blind. Kinderlach like that can't be trusted on anything if a magazine is that much trouble for them they can't think of basic Torah reasons why this might not be kosher. Send them back to cheder if they think the rabbis now endorse treif.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 10:02 AM Anonymous Says:

its okay to have a non kosher recipe in a Jewish nespaper, but its not ok to show a picture of a female? How Ironic!!

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM monsey Says:

I'm sure that no publication has any interest to upset its readers. The editors must have been horrified of what happened. What happened with asking nicely. Even my kids know this works best.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 11:53 AM Balabosta Says:

Chicken and dairy is only ossur m'drabonon. It is Biblically permitted. While loshon horah is d'orayta - Biblically prohibited. I think some commentators should bear this in mind!

Secondly, I often use such "treif" recipes by replacing the dairy or the meat/chicken with a non-dairy soy-based immitation. Some of my best fleishig dishes are made with non-dairt creamer. So, keep giving us these "treif" recipes!!

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 11:14 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

The recipe is simply copied from a secular source.
The biggest joke of all is that the ranninate actually reviews the paper.

the rabbinate only reviews the paper to make sure there are no pictures of women. treif recipes are ok:-)

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 11:08 AM Reb Yid Says:

If anyone made this recipe based on "blind trust in Hamodia" as a previous post stated, the problem lies w/ people having blind trust in Hamodia, not with an accidental editorial snafu.

BTW, when I saw the headline that Hamodia published a treif recipe, I assumed it was much worse than this. Like using heter mechira produce. Or food bought from a store open on shabbos. Or from a company that believes in dinosaurs.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 02:04 PM Anonymous Says:

Why didn't they have the same people who make sure that there are no pictures of women in the newspaper make sure that there was no trief in the newspaper. I guess pictures of women are worse than trief.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 04:29 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
murray Says:

they should have shoe-fulls of (feta) cheese thrown at them

now you have arabs against the Hamodia too ... I thought it was only secular jews agains Hamodia

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 05:36 PM Anonymous Says:

big hairy freakin' deal... each person should be responsible for their own kashrus. would they eat somewhere just because the newspaper said it was ok to eat there without checking the kashrus standards first? People are becoming sheeple.

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 06:10 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
David Says:

If you can vote during shiva you can have cheese with chicken

of course you know better than rav shteinmann youre a bigger tzadikk forsure you know more halacha also thanks for youre psak you cant vote during shiva

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 Feb 10, 2009 at 06:18 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

This is what happens when Judaism turns into a fanatical religion. Readers do not have enough common sense or knowledge to know that it is an issur deorash to eat milk and meat. Instead, they rely on rabbonim and newspaper to substitute the torah.

like i suspected you say rabbanim cant substitute the torah no wonder you dont care tzdukim arent makpid on chicken and milk so you dont care after all how dare some stupid rabbi decide to asser milk my god all these crazy takonos they just keep making takanos i mean i think you dont have to wait 6 hours i mean dont be a extremist hi rabbanim are interpiting the torah not substituting or making safegaurds if someone makes you safer do you get mad no you thank him

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 Feb 11, 2009 at 06:28 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #37  
Anonymous Says:

like i suspected you say rabbanim cant substitute the torah no wonder you dont care tzdukim arent makpid on chicken and milk so you dont care after all how dare some stupid rabbi decide to asser milk my god all these crazy takonos they just keep making takanos i mean i think you dont have to wait 6 hours i mean dont be a extremist hi rabbanim are interpiting the torah not substituting or making safegaurds if someone makes you safer do you get mad no you thank him

That is not what he meant. I read #24 to complain about people's failure to take responsibility for knowing things themselves are he used the wrong word. I do believe he was trying to say they were relying on magazines and rabbonim to tell them what to do, instead of learning the halachos themselves.
I think he meant to say something like.
Instead, they rely on rabbonim and newspaper to substitute for them knowing the torah.

So, I think both of you are on the same page. Just a wording problem.

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 Feb 11, 2009 at 06:23 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
Balabosta Says:

Chicken and dairy is only ossur m'drabonon. It is Biblically permitted. While loshon horah is d'orayta - Biblically prohibited. I think some commentators should bear this in mind!

Secondly, I often use such "treif" recipes by replacing the dairy or the meat/chicken with a non-dairy soy-based immitation. Some of my best fleishig dishes are made with non-dairt creamer. So, keep giving us these "treif" recipes!!

Just a note. Check with your rov on those recipes. While it certainly is muttar to use non dairy creamer in your fleishig dishes, you must be careful of two issues:

1. You MUST use a product which clearly states PAREVE, as most non-dairy marked creamers are milchik.

2. Even if it is 100% pareve, the halacha forces us to put the container on the counter while cooking, and on the table when serving.
The rules and laws of Maaras Eyin apply even if no one is around, even in a sealed room. We are taught with "Almond Milk" a whitish water derived from Almonds, that we may cook fleishiks with this, but we must keep a handful of Almonds in clear view at all times to make it clear to anyone that the milk is not animal milk. This applies even if you live alone, in a locked room with no windows.

I know many have "forgotten" this halacha, but now that we have such great pareve products out there, it is good to remind ourselves of it.

The only reason SOME rabbonim have allowed the non-dairy creamers containers to not be on the table at the time coffee is served at Chasunas, is that they have served this with coffee at chasunas now for so many years that "Everybody knows."

However, when you have worked as a mashgiach, as I have, and have had good, normal people come to me and say, "How can you allow milk or cream on the Fleishig table even after the meal?" .... one realizes that this "heter" was premature, and that the rabbonim who insisted on either the container left on the table, or a printed card on each table explaining it, were not crazy.

My Rav HaMachshir will not longer allow the Pareve Non-Dairy Creamers at the talbe in those metal small pitchers. He now insists on bringing out the Rich's containers, and placing a container on each table. He also asks the waiters to show the people at the table that the product is OU Pareve.

For that reason alone, I wish they would be more careful with printing of recipes. If printed in a Kosher-type of publication, we could have people beginning to think, "Maybe it is allowed now. Maybe with chicken, they now allow feta cheese."
Sounds crazy? You should hear the questions I get every day from NORMAL people. I don't bother to repeat the questions and remarks of the nut jobs.

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