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Published on: July 16, 2017 09:19 AM
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FILE - In this July 11, 2017 file photo, Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. listens on Capitol Hill in Washington, during the committee's confirmation hearing.   (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)FILE - In this July 11, 2017 file photo, Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. listens on Capitol Hill in Washington, during the committee's confirmation hearing.  (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

Washington - The U.S. Senate will delay its consideration of healthcare legislation while Arizona Republican Senator John McCain recuperates from surgery, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said on Saturday.

McCain’s absence cast doubt on whether the Senate would be able to pass the legislation to dismantle and replace Obamacare. McConnell needs 50 “yes” votes for passage in a chamber the Republicans control by a 52-48 margin.

“While John is recovering, the Senate will continue our work on legislative items and nominations, and will defer consideration of the Better Care Act,” McConnell said in a statement.

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The announcement came after McCain’s office said he would remain in Arizona next week following a procedure to remove a 2-inch (5-cm) blood clot from above his left eye.

Repealing and replacing President Barack Obama’s signature healthcare law was a top campaign promise for President Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress.

But two Republican senators have already declared their opposition to revised legislation unveiled on Thursday.

McCain has expressed concern about the healthcare bill but has not said how he would vote.

The 2008 Republican presidential nominee, McCain was resting comfortably at home in good condition after Friday’s operation, his office said.

“There are few people tougher than my friend John McCain, and I know he’ll be back with us soon,” McConnell said.

McCain’s surgeons removed the clot during a minimally invasive craniotomy through an incision in the 80-year-old lawmaker’s eyebrow. Tissue pathology reports would be available within the next several days.

“Thanks to @MayoClinic for its excellent care—I appreciate your support & look forward to getting back to work!” McCain, who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, said on social network Twitter late on Saturday.



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 Jul 16, 2017 at 10:13 AM blubluh Says:

There's something ironic about a healthcare vote being delayed due to a senator's healthcare issue.

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM abilenetx Says:

Delay, delay, delay, 2018 2020 etc. etc. The same old, same old, same old. Any reason to delay wonder what the next will be. Let Obamacare go let it die of its own weight and then start again. When Obama wanted something voted for no one even read the thing, now the punctuation is even important. People vote for the same old get the same old, dead tired people who really don't care just send them the money.

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 12:20 PM Educated Archy Says:

This is tough bill much harder than one can imagine. Once Obama dished out free goodies to 22 million Americans its nearly impossible to take it back. Its hard to anticipate the repercussions of taking back free lunches till you try to do it. Its like a domed if you do and doomed if you don't. Its kind of why Lakewood can't get off programs. Once you pop you can't stop and you get accustomed to freebies.

So why not just keep the ACA? Because healthcare costs rose for 160 million americans not entitled to subsidies or medicad. Whats my source? Firstly , I researched it via the kaizer institute's website. In fact as Lawrence correctly pointed out, I errored and stated that it rose for 175 million Americans however as kazier noted that numbers were actually somewhere around 160 million. But lets leave aside kaizer, I would suggest you also take an informal study which I believe is a pretty strong microcosm of the greater society at large. Ask 10/20 people at you local shul who do not receive any govt assistance at all how they like their health care post Obama. I have yet to meet one person who said costs are down. In fact most say it rose enormously esp those not in corp america.

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 12:27 PM Educated Archy Says:

Let me debunk a few more myths.

Other countries seem to have a better system than us and get it right. The USA has a second to none top notch system. We all know when someone is lo alinu sick the fly to the USA not to Switzerland for health care. Yes you'll find these far out reports of people that travel elsewhere for cheaper and treatment. Its not the norm and you all know it. Nobody from EY flies to Canada or the UK for health care. They come to the mao clinic in the USA. Its a figure of the imagination and fake news.

So why not lets all have coverage like McConnel?

We can't afford to offer that kind of top notch coverage to every USA citizen. ts simply impossible. In fact country's that do offer single payer don't offer top service, innovative dr's. access to experimental treatments and robust end of life care like here in the USA. At most you would get is single payer for essentials, however people in the stature of senators would still purchase better insurance for themselves. So stop dreaming on getting coverage like a senator because it does into exist anywhere. Its simply a socialst bernie dream and nice slogan.

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 12:57 PM Realistic Says:

I don't know how sick McCain is, but the Republican proposal is on life support.

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 01:40 PM ayinglefunadorf Says:

Reply to #3  
Educated Archy Says:

This is tough bill much harder than one can imagine. Once Obama dished out free goodies to 22 million Americans its nearly impossible to take it back. Its hard to anticipate the repercussions of taking back free lunches till you try to do it. Its like a domed if you do and doomed if you don't. Its kind of why Lakewood can't get off programs. Once you pop you can't stop and you get accustomed to freebies.

So why not just keep the ACA? Because healthcare costs rose for 160 million americans not entitled to subsidies or medicad. Whats my source? Firstly , I researched it via the kaizer institute's website. In fact as Lawrence correctly pointed out, I errored and stated that it rose for 175 million Americans however as kazier noted that numbers were actually somewhere around 160 million. But lets leave aside kaizer, I would suggest you also take an informal study which I believe is a pretty strong microcosm of the greater society at large. Ask 10/20 people at you local shul who do not receive any govt assistance at all how they like their health care post Obama. I have yet to meet one person who said costs are down. In fact most say it rose enormously esp those not in corp america.

Impossible to take it back? So the Republicans promissed the impossible and the Smart and Educated Republicans voted for somethyng impossible. No wonder that Trump run on the Republican ticket. Democrats are way to smart and educated for this

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 04:24 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #6  
ayinglefunadorf Says:

Impossible to take it back? So the Republicans promissed the impossible and the Smart and Educated Republicans voted for somethyng impossible. No wonder that Trump run on the Republican ticket. Democrats are way to smart and educated for this

yes its not a matter of education that was the error. Its a matter of fake news lying that makes it impossible and toxic. The news engages in fear mongering and exaggeration. And it will pick on the few that stand to loose coverage while ignoring the 160 million americans who got hurt from the ACA. Its a matter of the lack of predicting how the media lies an/ or twists facts thereby portraying them as toxic.

Furthermore, its not impossible just extremely difficult and complex. becasue of all the noise and facts on the ground.

Is hindsight 20/20? yes. They probably should have said we will repeal the ACA but it will take a few years to undo it due to the free lunches . However, I will add that most "educated" republicans understood politics and knew it would more difficult than promised. We really never thought oh day one repeal the ACA. But we liked the idea that from day one they'd work on repealing it and would see it as an urgent matter. That was the tone of the day 1 repeal.

Lastly, I guess the African american and Latino's which comprise of the majorty of democrats are really as educated as the Trump's "uneducated white voters"

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 04:41 PM TRumpIzALiar Says:

What TRump promised about TRumpCare...

>> 'Every bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare.'
>> 'No cuts' to Medicaid
>> 'Everybody's got to be covered.' “We’re going to have insurance for everybody.”
>> “We’re gonna bring down the price of health care. We’re going to bring it down big.” “Our healthcare plan will lower premiums & deductibles — and be great healthcare!”

And another whopper ...

"We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!"

Liar Liar. Liar.

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 04:44 PM TRumpIzWonderFull Says:

Reply to #6  
ayinglefunadorf Says:

Impossible to take it back? So the Republicans promissed the impossible and the Smart and Educated Republicans voted for somethyng impossible. No wonder that Trump run on the Republican ticket. Democrats are way to smart and educated for this

Like Newt Gingrich says

The Republicans don't care about facts.

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 06:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Educated Archy Says:

This is tough bill much harder than one can imagine. Once Obama dished out free goodies to 22 million Americans its nearly impossible to take it back. Its hard to anticipate the repercussions of taking back free lunches till you try to do it. Its like a domed if you do and doomed if you don't. Its kind of why Lakewood can't get off programs. Once you pop you can't stop and you get accustomed to freebies.

So why not just keep the ACA? Because healthcare costs rose for 160 million americans not entitled to subsidies or medicad. Whats my source? Firstly , I researched it via the kaizer institute's website. In fact as Lawrence correctly pointed out, I errored and stated that it rose for 175 million Americans however as kazier noted that numbers were actually somewhere around 160 million. But lets leave aside kaizer, I would suggest you also take an informal study which I believe is a pretty strong microcosm of the greater society at large. Ask 10/20 people at you local shul who do not receive any govt assistance at all how they like their health care post Obama. I have yet to meet one person who said costs are down. In fact most say it rose enormously esp those not in corp america.

You have a lot of time to waste with the same old, refrain. Take the profit margin away from bloodsuckers and greedy manipulators put everyone under Medicare with an existing lost cost delivery system and the problem is solved. Archy take a few courses at Trump university and you will be alright

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 06:31 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
Educated Archy Says:

yes its not a matter of education that was the error. Its a matter of fake news lying that makes it impossible and toxic. The news engages in fear mongering and exaggeration. And it will pick on the few that stand to loose coverage while ignoring the 160 million americans who got hurt from the ACA. Its a matter of the lack of predicting how the media lies an/ or twists facts thereby portraying them as toxic.

Furthermore, its not impossible just extremely difficult and complex. becasue of all the noise and facts on the ground.

Is hindsight 20/20? yes. They probably should have said we will repeal the ACA but it will take a few years to undo it due to the free lunches . However, I will add that most "educated" republicans understood politics and knew it would more difficult than promised. We really never thought oh day one repeal the ACA. But we liked the idea that from day one they'd work on repealing it and would see it as an urgent matter. That was the tone of the day 1 repeal.

Lastly, I guess the African american and Latino's which comprise of the majorty of democrats are really as educated as the Trump's "uneducated white voters"

you last sentence is the epitome of lack of education that is you archy. don't you get tired of posting all that malarkey

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 Jul 16, 2017 at 08:19 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #8  
TRumpIzALiar Says:

What TRump promised about TRumpCare...

>> 'Every bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare.'
>> 'No cuts' to Medicaid
>> 'Everybody's got to be covered.' “We’re going to have insurance for everybody.”
>> “We’re gonna bring down the price of health care. We’re going to bring it down big.” “Our healthcare plan will lower premiums & deductibles — and be great healthcare!”

And another whopper ...

"We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!"

Liar Liar. Liar.

THe plan was not passed yet who could you know he lied before it's passed ? You are fake news

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 Jul 17, 2017 at 09:34 AM Phineas Says:

Reply to #8  
TRumpIzALiar Says:

What TRump promised about TRumpCare...

>> 'Every bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare.'
>> 'No cuts' to Medicaid
>> 'Everybody's got to be covered.' “We’re going to have insurance for everybody.”
>> “We’re gonna bring down the price of health care. We’re going to bring it down big.” “Our healthcare plan will lower premiums & deductibles — and be great healthcare!”

And another whopper ...

"We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!"

Liar Liar. Liar.

He also said repeal and replace would happen simultaneously and that he wouldn't repeal unless he had something to replace it with. Two weeks ago, he said we should repeal it even if there is no alternative on the table. This dichotomy has its roots in the fact that Trump is a liar.

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 Jul 17, 2017 at 10:25 AM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

You have a lot of time to waste with the same old, refrain. Take the profit margin away from bloodsuckers and greedy manipulators put everyone under Medicare with an existing lost cost delivery system and the problem is solved. Archy take a few courses at Trump university and you will be alright

really medicare for all? Who pays for nursing homes? Medicare does not cover nursing home and many end of life care. How do you propose we pay for that or should that not be covered? It is a huge expense.

Take the profit margin away.

How much do you think the profit margin is at these company's? How much do you think you are saving? Its a sliver of ovearll expenditures and won't bring down prices by much. The insurance industry is already highly regulated and profit margins are razor thin.

Furthermore, the innovation and cost savings cuts that private enterprise offers far out wieghs government wasteful spending. Just as an example I have been on medicad and now have private insurance. Medicad applicants are still all processed by hand with no automation. Private insurance is almost all computer based and automated thereby enabling a smaller admin staff. Another example, private insurers offer work on wellness programs. They encourage participants to choose healthy lifestyles. And it works. I am fat and I am on it. Thanks, to the program I am more mindful what I eat. Does the government offer such programs?

Please do not resort to name calling others you disagree with.

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 Jul 17, 2017 at 01:09 PM Lawrence M. Reisman Says:

Archy: Do you really object that Medicare doesn't pay for nursing homes or dental care? You're the one who doesn't want the government to give out new goodies! With regard to the profit in the health care industry, it is huge, measuring in the ten of billions of dollars if not hundreds of billions. Big pharma routinely has a profit margin of 15% or more of gross profit. That's a pretty big number. United Health has a profit margin of 10% of gross profit. These are not razor thin margins. And we are not counting the multi-million dollar compensation packages executives get.

The government could put medicaid on computer, if Congress would appropriate the funds to do it. And by the way, many private insurance plans do not have a wellness program. For example, they won't pay to send a diabetic to a podiatrist every year, which could cut down on surgical toe and foot amputations, but they will pay for the amputations. Certainly medicaid and medicare could provide wellness programs, but will Congress pass the laws necessary to do so? Give the current atmosphere in Washington, I doubt it.

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 Jul 17, 2017 at 01:12 PM Lawrence M. Reisman Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

You have a lot of time to waste with the same old, refrain. Take the profit margin away from bloodsuckers and greedy manipulators put everyone under Medicare with an existing lost cost delivery system and the problem is solved. Archy take a few courses at Trump university and you will be alright

You can cut down on drug costs by reining in big pharma. You can cut most of the corporate profit out of the health care system, but you'll also be cutting the taxes paid by those profits, and that means raising the tax revenue from some other source. Good luck with that.

Archie: Could you please provide a URL for the Kaiser website's figures on health care costs going up for 160 million Americans. I went looking and couldn't find it.

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 Jul 17, 2017 at 02:50 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #15  
Lawrence M. Reisman Says:

Archy: Do you really object that Medicare doesn't pay for nursing homes or dental care? You're the one who doesn't want the government to give out new goodies! With regard to the profit in the health care industry, it is huge, measuring in the ten of billions of dollars if not hundreds of billions. Big pharma routinely has a profit margin of 15% or more of gross profit. That's a pretty big number. United Health has a profit margin of 10% of gross profit. These are not razor thin margins. And we are not counting the multi-million dollar compensation packages executives get.

The government could put medicaid on computer, if Congress would appropriate the funds to do it. And by the way, many private insurance plans do not have a wellness program. For example, they won't pay to send a diabetic to a podiatrist every year, which could cut down on surgical toe and foot amputations, but they will pay for the amputations. Certainly medicaid and medicare could provide wellness programs, but will Congress pass the laws necessary to do so? Give the current atmosphere in Washington, I doubt it.

Re end of life care and dental.

Yes I am against it but that's my point. If you provide medicare for all people won't be happy unless you also provide the things medicare currently does not proivde too such as nursing home and dental. That's the nature of this current Bernie entitlement society. So the government will be forced to provide those services as well. Now how will be able to afford to provide what we don't even provide to seniors who paid medicare taxes all the years?

Re profit margins, I have no clue where you got your high 10% profit margin number from. But your facts are alternative facts. Here are a few copy & pastes,

"If we look average profit margins by industry, health insurance companies are pretty close to the bottom, with an overall average profit margin of just 3.3%.

"The ACA implemented MLR guidelines that require health insurance companies to spend the bulk of what they collect in premiums on medical claims. That automatically limits their administrative expenses - including executive compensation and profits - to no more than 20% of premium revenue."

The first fact is slightly subjective, but the last ACA rule is a law. There is no way company'earn 10%

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 Jul 17, 2017 at 03:02 PM Educated Archy Says:

Reply to #15  
Lawrence M. Reisman Says:

Archy: Do you really object that Medicare doesn't pay for nursing homes or dental care? You're the one who doesn't want the government to give out new goodies! With regard to the profit in the health care industry, it is huge, measuring in the ten of billions of dollars if not hundreds of billions. Big pharma routinely has a profit margin of 15% or more of gross profit. That's a pretty big number. United Health has a profit margin of 10% of gross profit. These are not razor thin margins. And we are not counting the multi-million dollar compensation packages executives get.

The government could put medicaid on computer, if Congress would appropriate the funds to do it. And by the way, many private insurance plans do not have a wellness program. For example, they won't pay to send a diabetic to a podiatrist every year, which could cut down on surgical toe and foot amputations, but they will pay for the amputations. Certainly medicaid and medicare could provide wellness programs, but will Congress pass the laws necessary to do so? Give the current atmosphere in Washington, I doubt it.

The democrats will never let any work on wellness program because their constituents will never want those programs. That would mean they need to think about living healthy and responsible.

Besides do you need "congress" to pass work on wellness? I don't know the nuiances of medicad and congress. But I would imagine they don't get so detailed. They pass the overall spending for medicad not the exact details into how the spending should be allocated unless its a hot button issue like abortion. Alot of discretion is already given to states. And states have not passed these bills either.

I am not so convinced the government "could put" medicaid on a computer. Like let me offer something simple. When I submit my SS# to medicad cant they link that to the IRS and automatically populate my tax information instead of manually reading my tax returns? I think we just have a stupid incompetent inefficient government. And we need the private sector's competency.

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 Jul 17, 2017 at 04:59 PM Lawrence M. Reisman Says:

Reply to #17  
Educated Archy Says:

Re end of life care and dental.

Yes I am against it but that's my point. If you provide medicare for all people won't be happy unless you also provide the things medicare currently does not proivde too such as nursing home and dental. That's the nature of this current Bernie entitlement society. So the government will be forced to provide those services as well. Now how will be able to afford to provide what we don't even provide to seniors who paid medicare taxes all the years?

Re profit margins, I have no clue where you got your high 10% profit margin number from. But your facts are alternative facts. Here are a few copy & pastes,

"If we look average profit margins by industry, health insurance companies are pretty close to the bottom, with an overall average profit margin of just 3.3%.

"The ACA implemented MLR guidelines that require health insurance companies to spend the bulk of what they collect in premiums on medical claims. That automatically limits their administrative expenses - including executive compensation and profits - to no more than 20% of premium revenue."

The first fact is slightly subjective, but the last ACA rule is a law. There is no way company'earn 10%

My facts as to health care profits came from checking the financials of the big Pharma companies and other healthcare providers. Profits are not part of administrative costs. Also, health insurance companies are only a part of the health care industry. Big pharma is part, medical equipment manufacturers are a part, a large for-profit hospital system is a part, and private nursing homes (a very lucrative business) are a part. As for "people won't be happy unless you also provide the things medicare currently does not provide," both Medicare and Medicaid have been around for 50 years. The elderly are one of the most potent lobbies in this country, and they haven't been able to get medicare coverage for nursing homes.

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 Jul 17, 2017 at 05:04 PM Lawrence M. Reisman Says:

Reply to #18  
Educated Archy Says:

The democrats will never let any work on wellness program because their constituents will never want those programs. That would mean they need to think about living healthy and responsible.

Besides do you need "congress" to pass work on wellness? I don't know the nuiances of medicad and congress. But I would imagine they don't get so detailed. They pass the overall spending for medicad not the exact details into how the spending should be allocated unless its a hot button issue like abortion. Alot of discretion is already given to states. And states have not passed these bills either.

I am not so convinced the government "could put" medicaid on a computer. Like let me offer something simple. When I submit my SS# to medicad cant they link that to the IRS and automatically populate my tax information instead of manually reading my tax returns? I think we just have a stupid incompetent inefficient government. And we need the private sector's competency.

"Besides do you need "congress" to pass work on wellness? I don't know the nuances of medicaid and congress. But I would imagine they don't get so detailed." Guess again. Healthcare legislation is very detailed, and has been so since at least 1982 (TEFRA, which started as a heath care bill in the house). If the insurance companies are not reimbursing wellness, how do you get them to move, if not with legislation?

As to medicaid and computers. In order to link your SS# to IRS, they need the hardware to process, the software to make the link, and the wire connections. They need the law to allow IRS to communicate with medicaid by computer. They won't get any of that until Congress authorizes it and appropriates the funds.

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