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Sakhan Dosova said old age was down to humour and cottage cheese
Sakhan Dosova’s age was discovered during a census in Karaganda in northern Kazakhstan, when the date of birth on her passport showed as 1879, which was the same year Edison invented the light bulb and Stalin and Einstein were born.
Dosova’s age surprised demographers when they found that she had been on Stalin’s first census of the former Soviet region in 1926, when her age was given as 47, and they are now trying to confirm the record.
For the 129-year-old lady, she puts her longevity down to her love for cottage cheese and her sense of humour, and never visiting a doctor or eating sweets.
“I don’t have any special secret. I’ve never taken pills and if I was ill I took grannies’ remedies,” the Sun quoted her as saying.
“I’ve never eaten sweets. But I love kurt — a salty dried cottage cheese — and talkan, a ground wheat,” she stated.
Dosova lives in poor conditions in an overcrowded flat with a granddaughter, Gaukhar Kanieva, 42, and apart from hearing problems she is in good health.
Passport Sakhan was born in 1879
“She is a very cheerful woman. We think laughter and her good mood help her live so long,” Kanieva said of her grandma.
The aged lady has been congratulated by the local mayor, and as of now, she is the oldest living person in the world followed by American Edna Parker who is 114.
Dosova was born on March 27, 1879, when Queen Victoria had 22 years left to rule, Benjamin Disraeli was Prime Minister and Sherlock Holmes creator Sir Arthur Conan Doyle published his first story.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:07 PM Anonymous Says:
Amazing story. I love this part.
"For the 129-year-old lady, she puts her longevity down to her love for cottage cheese and her sense of humour, and never visiting a doctor or eating sweets. "
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:05 PM Anonymous Says:
I THINK THEY FORGOT ABOUT HER UPSTAIRS
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:18 PM Anonymous Says:
reply to #2 as the saying goes if you
"dont ask questions... they dont need to call you up and answer you"
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:14 PM Anonymous Says:
How is it possible thàt someone could live more than 120
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:05 PM yidden Says:
why only goyim???
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Mar 25, 2009 at 01:57 PM Anonymous Says:
What do you say in such a case? Till 220?
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:25 PM Anonymous Says:
She was makpid in kibbud av
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:24 PM Sruly Says:
Raboysay!!! This is a lie!!!! You cannot live older then 120
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:43 PM Anonymous Says:
Im sure its a mistake, the date should have read 1897
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:46 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Raboysay!!! This is a lie!!!! You cannot live older then 120 ”
says who?
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:35 PM Simcha Says:
Where is it written that one can't live past 120? On the contrary, in the Torah we see many who lived much longer!
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:04 PM Anonymous Says:
Avraham lived to 175, Yitzchak to 180, Yaakov to 147. Moshe lived to 120.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:01 PM Anonymous Says:
cottage cheese was not invented 130 years ago
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:57 PM sholmo shamos Says:
After maton torah no one lived past 120
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Mar 25, 2009 at 02:57 PM Anonymous Says:
"Where is it written that one can't live past 120? On the contrary, in the Torah we see many who lived much longer!"
That was before the flood, when the average lifespan of males was 912 years. Methusela lived the longest, to 969.I didn't see any figures for the lifespans of the women.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:20 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Im sure its a mistake, the date should have read 1897 ”
Probably 1987???
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:41 PM Anonymous Says:
I believe it. I see no reason to say that 120 is a "Maximum" with no exceptions.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:38 PM Anonymous Says:
“ cottage cheese was not invented 130 years ago ”
it was invented some several thousand years ago
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:36 PM mayer Says:
“ "Where is it written that one can't live past 120? On the contrary, in the Torah we see many who lived much longer!"
That was before the flood, when the average lifespan of males was 912 years. Methusela lived the longest, to 969.I didn't see any figures for the lifespans of the women. ”
why do you blass avry one up to 120
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:35 PM Anonymous Says:
Wow! She should continue to live and be well!
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:24 PM Anonymous Says:
Achiya Hashiloni was from the yotzei mitzraim, that's a bit more then 120.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:24 PM 120 is a farce Says:
You say "until 120" because that's how long Moshe Rabbeinu lived- and he lived his life to his fullest potential.
People live 70-90 years usually, wishing them to live to 120 is not a wish in longevity, but rather in quality.
All of this is written in rishonim (I forgot if it was the ramban, or rambam, I'm pretty sure the former on chumash)
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:32 PM Omzee Says:
In those days almost nobody wrote their real birthdates on the official ID's.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 04:04 PM Anonymous Says:
I heard a story that someone once gave the Chofetz Chaim Ad Meah VeEsrim...and he said that was a Klalah, theres no reason that one cant live longer
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Mar 25, 2009 at 04:03 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Probably 1987??? ”
1789?
9781?
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Mar 25, 2009 at 04:02 PM Anonymous Says:
BS"D
Forget about it. There were so many discrepancies in the Soviet survey that this is most probably an exaggerated age.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 03:59 PM Anonymous Says:
“ "Where is it written that one can't live past 120? On the contrary, in the Torah we see many who lived much longer!"
That was before the flood, when the average lifespan of males was 912 years. Methusela lived the longest, to 969.I didn't see any figures for the lifespans of the women. ”
Avraham and Sarah were before the flood? that is news to me...
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Mar 25, 2009 at 04:27 PM WolfishMusings Says:
“ After maton torah no one lived past 120 ”
I hereby direct you to open your Divrei Hayamim II to 24:15.
The Wolf
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Mar 25, 2009 at 04:14 PM Askupeh Says:
“ it was invented some several thousand years ago ”
It was probably invented when Chavah (Eve) had left over milk which she forgot about, when she came back and poured out the water (whey), she discovered Cottage cheese, and since then it has become a cottage industry. That makes it amost 5769 years of cottage cheese making.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 05:08 PM ad meah vesrim Says:
so we can't say "ad meah v'esrim" What does one say now?
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Mar 25, 2009 at 04:59 PM Anonymous Says:
“ "Where is it written that one can't live past 120? On the contrary, in the Torah we see many who lived much longer!"
That was before the flood, when the average lifespan of males was 912 years. Methusela lived the longest, to 969.I didn't see any figures for the lifespans of the women. ”
Serach Bas Osher (Yaakov Avinu'sd granddaughter) lived very long. I think she lived at Yezias Mizrayim. certainly a very long time.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 05:24 PM Loshon Hora Says:
She probably never spoke Loshon Hora, that segulah is in tehilim.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 05:19 PM WolfishMusings Says:
“ so we can't say "ad meah v'esrim" What does one say now? ”
FWIW, I never wish people "ad meah v'esrim." When I mentioned my grandmother in a speech this week, I said "she should live well and be healthy."
The Wolf
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Mar 25, 2009 at 05:48 PM za003 Says:
wow 130!! amazing because I only thought you can live ubtil 120 while we live in the ge'ula
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Mar 25, 2009 at 05:53 PM Little Miss Muffit Says:
“ It was probably invented when Chavah (Eve) had left over milk which she forgot about, when she came back and poured out the water (whey), she discovered Cottage cheese, and since then it has become a cottage industry. That makes it amost 5769 years of cottage cheese making. ”
Oh please, cottage cheese has been around for a while but we used to call it curds & whey. The only problem with eating curds and whey was when I sat on the tuffit, the spider came along and always scared me away!
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Mar 25, 2009 at 06:46 PM till 180! Says:
If i'm not mistaken, the Lubavitcher Rebbe would wish people to live "till 180". This is from my memory, though.
In any case, Moshiach will iyH be here any moment, and then chaim nitzchin bli hefsek klal v'klal!
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Mar 25, 2009 at 06:45 PM Anonymous Says:
does anybody want to live that long?
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Mar 25, 2009 at 06:38 PM skeptic Says:
"Dosova lives in poor conditions in an overcrowded flat with a granddaughter, Gaukhar Kanieva, 42"
130-42=88
88/2=44
so she and her daughter/son gave birth at around 44 years old?
is her granddaughter Gaukhar Kanieva the youngest child of her youngest child?
i suspect in 1879 most people in Kazakhstan could not read and write; let alone keep accurate birth records.
most likely some kind of drunken soviet clerical mistake.
perhaps she bribed the record keeper with a bottle of vodka to add 30 years to her age in order to receive her social security pension earlier...
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Mar 25, 2009 at 06:24 PM Ahem Says:
There is no reason why one can't live past 120. Common misconception.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 06:10 PM Anonymous Says:
Well Rav Chutzpis (one of the asara harugei malchus) was killed one day short of his 130th birthday.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 05:54 PM Not Such A Groyse Chuchem Says:
I have a better idea on how to live long.... KEEP BREATHING!!!
Simple!
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Mar 25, 2009 at 07:32 PM Eliahu Says:
What i love the most is to read the comments .You guys make me smile all the time.......keep on smiling its healthy and free(at least for now) LOL
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Mar 25, 2009 at 07:47 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Serach Bas Osher (Yaakov Avinu'sd granddaughter) lived very long. I think she lived at Yezias Mizrayim. certainly a very long time. ”
She was still alive in the time of dovid Hamelech. That's about 700 Years!
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Mar 25, 2009 at 09:03 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I heard a story that someone once gave the Chofetz Chaim Ad Meah VeEsrim...and he said that was a Klalah, theres no reason that one cant live longer
”
The version I heard involved R' Yaakov Kamenetzky ZTL, when he was in his 90s.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 08:49 PM Elchonon Says:
The Lubavitcher rebbe told many "ad meah v'shmonim" ive heard him sa till 150, 180 etc.. its on living torah series.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 08:27 PM Mark Says:
Don't even thing that they accurate records there!
Ask your grandparents if they had accurate records in Europe before world war 2!
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Mar 25, 2009 at 08:26 PM Anonymous Says:
“ What i love the most is to read the comments .You guys make me smile all the time.......keep on smiling its healthy and free(at least for now) LOL ”
they dont make me smile they make me wonder where they were educated!
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Mar 25, 2009 at 08:17 PM Anonymous Says:
Of course, at this age without any teeth left, all she can eat is probbely cottage cheese
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Mar 25, 2009 at 09:34 PM viggy Says:
if her granddaughter is 42 that means that she and her daughter averaged 44 when thay had a kid. she wes 88 whan her granddaughter was born.
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Mar 25, 2009 at 10:54 PM smartyid Says:
“ Raboysay!!! This is a lie!!!! You cannot live older then 120 ”
where do you take this from that, that we bless ech other that we should live on till 120
but what we do find is that a regular person lives 70 years and if you are strong then 80
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Mar 25, 2009 at 11:06 PM smartyid Says:
“ why only goyim???
”
because us yidden can fulfil our purpose and come to the ever lasting word-gan eden
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Mar 25, 2009 at 11:35 PM I'd rather it be anonymous Says:
“ "Dosova lives in poor conditions in an overcrowded flat with a granddaughter, Gaukhar Kanieva, 42"
130-42=88
88/2=44
so she and her daughter/son gave birth at around 44 years old?
is her granddaughter Gaukhar Kanieva the youngest child of her youngest child?
i suspect in 1879 most people in Kazakhstan could not read and write; let alone keep accurate birth records.
most likely some kind of drunken soviet clerical mistake.
perhaps she bribed the record keeper with a bottle of vodka to add 30 years to her age in order to receive her social security pension earlier... ”
I think they might have used the term generally and not literally= it could very well be a great-grandchild or even great-great-grandchild!
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Mar 26, 2009 at 12:53 AM BiggestFish Says:
Her birthdate could be wrong. So far, no copy of her birth certificate has shown up. She may be old, but not that old. Coming from a rural area, records may have been inaccurate or nonexistent and she may have mistakenly given a wrong birthdate. Which can happen among poorly educated people in third world countries. There are others who have also lived long and claimed they were 125+, but if the records are not there, their claims should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Mar 26, 2009 at 12:33 AM Milhouse Says:
“ Raboysay!!! This is a lie!!!! You cannot live older then 120 ”
Says who? Really, where DO people come up with these strange claims? I'd never even heard of this one until tonight, but so many commenters seem convinced of it, as if it were written somewhere. It isn't. And it isn't true.
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Mar 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM Milhouse Says:
“ She was still alive in the time of dovid Hamelech. That's about 700 Years! ”
Serach was a child when they entered Egypt, and lived right through until after Sancheriv exiled the 10 tribes. She went into exile with the Tribe of Asher, and died there. That would make her over 1000 years old.
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Mar 26, 2009 at 12:35 AM Milhouse Says:
“ why do you blass avry one up to 120 ”
Because for most people, that's a good goal. Once someone is up there, you need to up the ante.
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Mar 26, 2009 at 12:30 AM mendy in midwest Says:
if the RSO whats one to live ...
serach bas asher is still alive in himel with eliyahu
and of achiya hashiloni (rambam says) he was meyotzei mitzraim and in dovid hamelechs beis did that would make him about 400yo
so... be nice and kind smile and eat healty...
veyihu yomov meah veesrim l'chaim!!
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Mar 26, 2009 at 12:26 AM Milhouse Says:
“ How is it possible thàt someone could live more than 120 ”
Why not? Since when is 120 some sort of limit? Lots of people in the Torah and gemoroh lived longer than 120. And there have been a small number of cases in modern times, of people living longer than that. The longest *proven* lifespan was that of Jeanne Calment, who lived 122 years, 5 months, and 14 days.
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Mar 26, 2009 at 12:29 AM Milhouse Says:
“ wow 130!! amazing because I only thought you can live ubtil 120 while we live in the ge'ula ”
Why on earth would you think that?
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Mar 26, 2009 at 08:21 AM Anonymous Says:
“ After maton torah no one lived past 120 ”
If I am not mistaken, Rabbi Chutzpis HaMeturgemon was killed one day before his 130th birthday.
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Mar 26, 2009 at 10:29 AM Anonymous Says:
I had a rebbe in school (a Lubavitcher) who was makpid never to say "ad meah v'esrim" because he thought it was a curse -- because there is no reason a person shouldn't live longer.
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Mar 26, 2009 at 03:46 PM Anonymous Says:
um, im pretty sure edna parker of the US died recently...so this lady actually has no competition for being the oldest...
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Mar 26, 2009 at 08:13 PM Anonymous Says:
“ "Dosova lives in poor conditions in an overcrowded flat with a granddaughter, Gaukhar Kanieva, 42"
130-42=88
88/2=44
so she and her daughter/son gave birth at around 44 years old?
is her granddaughter Gaukhar Kanieva the youngest child of her youngest child?
i suspect in 1879 most people in Kazakhstan could not read and write; let alone keep accurate birth records.
most likely some kind of drunken soviet clerical mistake.
perhaps she bribed the record keeper with a bottle of vodka to add 30 years to her age in order to receive her social security pension earlier... ”
A man could certainly father children at age 44, or even older. Who says that this granddaughter has to be her daughter's child?
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Aug 03, 2009 at 02:25 AM Anonymous Says:
“ cottage cheese was not invented 130 years ago ”
obviously, you are not familier w/ kurt or krut... as in persian.... it was the solution to not having a refrigerator a thousand years ago. a cheese very similar to cottage cheese was dehydrated, hense, it being salty. With it being dry, it could last for years and not go bad.