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But there's a catch.
Our neighborhood is not a parking lot. That's the cry of several lawmakers who have introduced legislation to allow residential permit parking. the bill can be viewed here PDF
"Driving around looking for a parking space is a New York tradition as old as corned beef, but if we can do something to improve it we should and this will," said State Sen. Daniel Squadron, D-Brooklyn.
It's another way of saying if you live here you can park here. If you don't, you're plumb out of luck. Residents would buy permits for a nominal fee -- say $25 to $100 a year.
The downtown Brooklyn communities, because they are the gateway to Manhattan, have become a hub for people coming into our neighborhoods parking their cars and then taking mass transit," said Assemblywoman Joan Millman, D-Brooklyn.
But it's not just Brooklyn. Any neighborhood that wants to keep its parking for its residents can have such a program. Leslie Lewis said he's beside himself because it's difficult to park near his Boerum Hill home.
"I'm not looking for some guaranteed parking space painted in the street, but I am looking for just a proper chance at it without a commuter taking it away," Lewis said.
But there's an "alternate side of the street" to this parking story.
"Oh no, I don't think that's fair," said Monica Wilson of Jamaica. "These are public streets and the entire public should be able to park on them."
"It really shouldn't be because it's a business area, right," added Gloria Katz of Mill Basin.
Other cities that have the residential parking permit program in effect are Boston, Chicago, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles and Hoboken, N.J.
Councilman David Yassky is sponsoring a home rule message to get the state Legislature to approve the measure.
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May 17, 2009 at 09:00 AM Anonymous Says:
Finally its a good thing to do even in boro park we have problems with parking because mimonidies hospital they have a parking lot but the nurses are parking on the street and its a disaster to find parking when you come from work
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May 17, 2009 at 09:05 AM Anonymous Says:
Hmmm, I guess that would mean no more driving to Brooklyn for a weekday Yom Tov and parking my car while we stay over...
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May 17, 2009 at 09:42 AM AuthenticSatmar Says:
The way that it works in Boston and Los Angeles is that non residents may only park for 1 or 2 hours, while residents can park all day.
However, will the permits be based on the homeowner or the car's registered address?
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May 17, 2009 at 09:41 AM L.A. Commish Says:
“ Hmmm, I guess that would mean no more driving to Brooklyn for a weekday Yom Tov and parking my car while we stay over... ”
In Los Angeles we 'relax' parking restrictions in almost all the frum communities during Yom Tov usually from 3:00 PM Erev YT until about 2 hours after YT. No parking problems for residents and guests.
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May 17, 2009 at 09:36 AM Anonymous Says:
This is stupid as stupid gets I drive in to vist my brother or for simchas where would I park there is no public parking in BP and beside all the revenue the city would loose from comuters who pay toles to enter the city now I understand the problom but there has to be a solution for shopers and out of town visters
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May 17, 2009 at 09:25 AM moshe kapoyer Says:
I could just see the oilem getting a p.o. Box in every neighborhood to be able to park there for the whole day.
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May 17, 2009 at 09:19 AM kivi Says:
So let me get this straight now I have to pay for looking for a parking spot for 2 hours. And parking 2 blocks away from my house.
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May 17, 2009 at 09:14 AM Avrohom Abba Says:
Parking was never such a strong and painful subject before Bloomberg decided to do end his welfare costs by getting those 300 pounders out of the kitchens and on to the streets where after a two week course, they learn how to take their frustrations out on citizens who are turned into victims. The large sunglasses will never hide the 300 pounders get from ticketing ordinary citizens, ESPECIALLY when they think the car owners are a certain type they hate most. Bloomberg has taken the extra step to destroy what once was a mending of race relations.
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May 17, 2009 at 09:03 AM gerer man Says:
does this guarantee more parking on 13th Avenue?
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May 17, 2009 at 09:00 AM Anonymous Says:
Finally its a good thing to do even in boro park we have problems with parking because mimonidies hospital they have a parking lot but the nurses are parking on the street and its a disaster to find parking when you come from work
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May 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM PMO Says:
How stupid! What are people who come to shop in BP but live elsewhere supposed to do? All the businesses will lose serious money if it becomes to big a hassle to find parking. People from outside Brooklyn will just start shopping in Queens. Just another way to hurt businesses as far as I'm concerned.
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May 17, 2009 at 10:23 AM Anonymous Says:
This will turn out to be Bloombergs best friend there wont be enough paper in the printer to write out tickets in Boro Park, go explain to the judge that you were in shul for 1 hour or went to a chasuna for 3 hours or even if you were there for 15 minutes how can you prove that?
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May 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM Anonymous Says:
“ In Los Angeles we 'relax' parking restrictions in almost all the frum communities during Yom Tov usually from 3:00 PM Erev YT until about 2 hours after YT. No parking problems for residents and guests. ”
Now all you have to do is get them to "relax" the jaywalking rules for yomim tovim so they can stop trying to arrest all the NY ers when they come for a visit.
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May 17, 2009 at 10:17 AM montrealer Says:
In Montreal we have a similar system. residents of the street purchase a parking permit for an annual fee of about $75. Every 3-4 streets is assigned a different number which is the number that is displayed on the street signs and on the parking permit which must be sticked on to the rear window of the vehicle.
Usually, the reserved residents parking spaces take up only 60% of the street. about 100 ft. at a time is reserved, then the next 75 ft. is free for anyone to park. this system has proved itself to be very successful.
There is one other bit that should be noted, most reserved spots are from 3:30 pm until 11:00pm only. during the day you could park almost anywhere.
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May 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM L.A. Commish Says:
“ This is stupid as stupid gets I drive in to vist my brother or for simchas where would I park there is no public parking in BP and beside all the revenue the city would loose from comuters who pay toles to enter the city now I understand the problom but there has to be a solution for shopers and out of town visters ”
The way a "Residential Parking Permit" usually works is: Anyone can park for 1 hour or 2 hours without a problem but to park for a longer period of time you need a permit. This way if you visit someone for a short period of time or if you want to shop at a nearby store or have to drop something off.....etc., you are able to do so without a problem. Since long term parking for those who don't belong there (nurses from Maimonides, waiters from restaurants, etc.) won't be available then there shouldn't be a problem finding a place to park. Only residents will be able to get permits to park in their neighborhoods for days at a time. (Usually not on street cleaning days)
Residents may also be able to request guest passes in advance for simchas. We waive parking restrictions, even for street cleaning during shiva.
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May 17, 2009 at 09:58 AM Dovy Says:
“ Finally its a good thing to do even in boro park we have problems with parking because mimonidies hospital they have a parking lot but the nurses are parking on the street and its a disaster to find parking when you come from work ”
How would that help if all the nurses live in Brooklyn anyway ?
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May 17, 2009 at 10:42 AM L.A. Commish Says:
“ Now all you have to do is get them to "relax" the jaywalking rules for yomim tovim so they can stop trying to arrest all the NY ers when they come for a visit. ”
New Yorkers will have to live by the laws of all the civilized areas of the world when they travel outside their jungle. NY's wander into the street like behaimos without regard to their safety or the safety of others because "That's the way we do it in NY"
are wrong! There are laws for good reasons, most have to do with safety. If you can't walk to a corner to cross at a "WALK" signal then don't wander into the street. I don't want to have any fatalities from traffic accidents and neither do you!
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May 17, 2009 at 10:42 AM Anonymous Says:
This is another trick from the city to raise money when no one have first u will pay for the permits second from the tickets they gona give out its really time to MOVE our water bills are going to be raised 12 precent our con ed bill 8 precnt it time to RUN .
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May 17, 2009 at 10:56 AM Floridian Says:
“ This is another trick from the city to raise money when no one have first u will pay for the permits second from the tickets they gona give out its really time to MOVE our water bills are going to be raised 12 precent our con ed bill 8 precnt it time to RUN . ”
Why would anyone in their right mind want to live in New York????????????
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May 17, 2009 at 11:59 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Finally its a good thing to do even in boro park we have problems with parking because mimonidies hospital they have a parking lot but the nurses are parking on the street and its a disaster to find parking when you come from work ”
Thats a great idea lets not let the nurses park anymore :eye roll:
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May 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM chaim Says:
it should be illegal to park on the street anywhere in the city. they should build indoor garages in every neighborhood and charge a small fee for parking.
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May 17, 2009 at 11:59 AM Anonymous Says:
I got a ticket in new brunswick nj for parking with no residentel permit 25 dol.
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May 17, 2009 at 12:11 PM Anonymous Says:
“ New Yorkers will have to live by the laws of all the civilized areas of the world when they travel outside their jungle. NY's wander into the street like behaimos without regard to their safety or the safety of others because "That's the way we do it in NY"
are wrong! There are laws for good reasons, most have to do with safety. If you can't walk to a corner to cross at a "WALK" signal then don't wander into the street. I don't want to have any fatalities from traffic accidents and neither do you! ”
You are missing the point, we are talking now of implementing a law that will not allow a non resident to park in a residential are, this includes shuls, wedding halls, etc. with that in mind the city will just gain revenue.
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May 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM montgomery st resdant Says:
good idea but want work if you live next to a nypd prc bec everybody has a plaque . 59 st 16 ave and in ch new york ave and montgomery
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May 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM chaim Says:
it should be illegal to park on the street anywhere in the city. they should build indoor garages in every neighborhood and charge a small fee for parking.
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May 17, 2009 at 01:00 PM Anonymous Says:
Don't complain. Perhaps the city might at some point ask why street parking is so cheap, then have meters that charge almost what parking garages charge.
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May 17, 2009 at 12:39 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Finally its a good thing to do even in boro park we have problems with parking because mimonidies hospital they have a parking lot but the nurses are parking on the street and its a disaster to find parking when you come from work ”
Hospitals will be excused because they are emergancy vehicles.
If you missed this, you will have to pay a resident fee for that permit of yours, so pay more to gov and get almost nothing in return.
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May 17, 2009 at 03:45 PM Anonymous Says:
There should be special rules and agressive enforcement of parking rules around these "simcha halls" in Brooklyn and Queens which have created havoc for the neighborhoods in which they are located. On some evenings, literally hundreds of cars arrive within an hour or so of motzi shabbos and rush inside leaving there cars parked wherever they want blocking driveways, fire hydrants or just double parking. This boorish behavior is worse than anything we have seen by the Bobover and Satmer in Monsey and contributes to antisemitism and hatred against yiddin. The police should tow these cars away and fine the owners as much as the law would allow.
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May 17, 2009 at 03:36 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Why would anyone in their right mind want to live in New York???????????? ”
You're right, Florida, with its unending humidity and hurricanes and highly prized drug cartels is much preferred.
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May 17, 2009 at 03:31 PM Anonymous Says:
How idiotic. People who don't live but work in the neighborhood won't be able to get to work. People who don't live but shop in the neighborhood won't be able to shop there. In a city the size of NYC you simply can't close off neighborhoods to public parking. What are people supposed to do, drive around for hours creating air pollution and more traffic congestion?
To the person that wants 'someone' to build indoor garages in every neighborhood in the city: alright, go ahead, try to find empty lots in every neighborhood, buy them, build parking garages, and rent parking spaces at a low cost.
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May 17, 2009 at 04:09 PM Concerned Member Says:
Someone should tell this new senator that all this would do is make sure that no one will come shop in Brooklyn. Many people from other areas, such as Manhattan, don't have as many Kosher stores as Brooklyn so they drive in and spend money at the Brooklyn stores. I don't think many of them, particularly elderly people are going to hop on the subway for 2.5 hours because the parking troops will be staring at how long they park in their spots.
This is yet another example of legislators thinking only about the "right now" and totally ignoring the future.
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May 17, 2009 at 05:14 PM Floridian Says:
“ You're right, Florida, with its unending humidity and hurricanes and highly prized drug cartels is much preferred. ”
You think it's better in NY where the humidity is just as bad if not worse, the winters are freezing, all the child molesters in Brooklyn and worst of all the sarcastic nasty people of new york!
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May 17, 2009 at 07:20 PM Brooklyner Says:
“ In Montreal we have a similar system. residents of the street purchase a parking permit for an annual fee of about $75. Every 3-4 streets is assigned a different number which is the number that is displayed on the street signs and on the parking permit which must be sticked on to the rear window of the vehicle.
Usually, the reserved residents parking spaces take up only 60% of the street. about 100 ft. at a time is reserved, then the next 75 ft. is free for anyone to park. this system has proved itself to be very successful.
There is one other bit that should be noted, most reserved spots are from 3:30 pm until 11:00pm only. during the day you could park almost anywhere. ”
Well well well, in Montreal the people are rather straight, and a parking permit is actually bought for $75. Here in Brooklyn, there's no chance that every other 'macher' with 3+ cellphones will pay up. They will produce some permit and to he** with this brilliant idea.
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May 17, 2009 at 08:42 PM Milhouse Says:
“ You are missing the point, we are talking now of implementing a law that will not allow a non resident to park in a residential are, this includes shuls, wedding halls, etc. with that in mind the city will just gain revenue. ”
Why don't you try reading what the comment is responding to, before claiming that it misses the point. You may not agree with comment #23, but it didn't miss anything.
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May 17, 2009 at 08:41 PM Milhouse Says:
“ How idiotic. People who don't live but work in the neighborhood won't be able to get to work. People who don't live but shop in the neighborhood won't be able to shop there. In a city the size of NYC you simply can't close off neighborhoods to public parking. What are people supposed to do, drive around for hours creating air pollution and more traffic congestion?
To the person that wants 'someone' to build indoor garages in every neighborhood in the city: alright, go ahead, try to find empty lots in every neighborhood, buy them, build parking garages, and rent parking spaces at a low cost. ”
If you work there, take the subway or a bus. Shoppers would find room to park for an hour or two, if there weren't these commuters taking up a space all day.
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May 17, 2009 at 11:44 PM Gabe Asher Says:
people should ride bikes and ban cars
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May 18, 2009 at 12:06 AM PMO Says:
This is what happens when stupid people elect stupid people to public office. Here in FL (with a few exceptions) zoning laws say you cannot build a residential building without a significant amount of parking for both residents and guests. The very idea that there is little to no concept of "zoning" in Brooklyn is just ridiculous. They will allow anyone to build as much as they want, as high as they want, and pack as many people in as they want. There is no regard for "community" and there is certainly no common sense used. It is that kind of stupidity that leads to this kind of problem.
How much will it cost the city every year to administer this program? What ridiculous tax will they impose/raise this time to pay for it?
More nonsense from the Communist Republic of New York.
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May 18, 2009 at 10:43 AM Anonymous Says:
The whole problem is that our trains are so bad and you wait so long that people are disgusted!! The result is that people want to drive their car and get where they are going instead of waiting for 3 trains to go by when they have to go home instead of squeezing into a sardine can!! People are tired of complaining and there is nobody to complain to!! ??Paterson?? Bloomberg??? MTA?? Nobody does anything except raise taxes , fares, and take your money!!!
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May 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM dr Says:
Once they have your money for your permit, they'll start to reduce the number of permitted parking spots. They are doing this in front of many schools that have had faculty parking for years. Every year another few spots disappear. Then they claim the school is handing out too many permits for their too few spots. That just brings everyone back to the same starting point. Not enough parking spots. Only now they already have your money...