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Garden City, NY - Experts: Cell Phones, Electronic Messages Never Private

Published on: June 1, 2009 03:13 PM
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Garden City, NY - Cell phones, instant messages and global positioning satellites are everywhere. But awareness that information sent over these devices is traceable doesn’t seem to be.

“I think people, in their lazy behavior, think they’re communicating one on one,” said John Donovan, a technology expert whose company, Telecom Visions Inc., is based in Garden City. “But there’s no real guarantee of privacy.”

And these devices can be instruments of undoing for those who run afoul of the law.

People seem to forget that electronic communications can easily be monitored, or retrieved later, Donovan said.

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Savvy computer hackers can tap into text messages just as easily as they can access a computer’s instant messages, Donovan said.

David Gitkos, an expert in computer forensics with Global Digital Forensics, near Tampa, Fla., said the cases he’s investigated show a pattern.

“If you watch the news, you know these things can happen,” Gitkos said. “But they send it and that’s it. They think no one will ever see it.”

But even when text messages are deleted from a cell phone, they’re really not gone, Gitkos said.

“Pretty much every thing is recoverable,” Gitkos said. “A general rule is, don’t put anything in an e-mail that you don’t want to be made public.”


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 Jun 01, 2009 at 02:29 PM Anonymous Says:

this is old news for us yiden
עין רואה ואוזן שומעת
וכל מעשיך בספר נכתבים

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 02:28 PM Big masmid Says:

I will tell you this cell phones are ruining are teen agers

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 02:24 PM Satmar Man Says:

I have nothing to hide. Why would I care if someone knew where I was, or even listened to my stuff.
If we lead a correct life, we need not worry.

This only concerned you, if you are misbehaving; no?

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 02:37 PM Anonymous Says:

But I will give you my advice: in every phone is build in a chip, in the chip is installed all the information from day one. So take it and brake it when you are finish with the phone!

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 02:40 PM Chocom Says:

Reply to #3  
Satmar Man Says:

I have nothing to hide. Why would I care if someone knew where I was, or even listened to my stuff.
If we lead a correct life, we need not worry.

This only concerned you, if you are misbehaving; no?

No if you discuss personal financial matters and give your credit card, checking account or other data it can be misused. Or it could be personal information about medical issues which are confidential.

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 02:40 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Big masmid Says:

I will tell you this cell phones are ruining are teen agers

Yeah 100%. All they do is sit and txt or instant message and don't talk to their families anymore

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 02:49 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Big masmid Says:

I will tell you this cell phones are ruining are teen agers

You're right, and that's why the Bobover Rebbe (45) issued a zero tolerence of cell phones for bochurim.

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 03:09 PM Anonymous Says:

Many "kosher" conversations are best kept private... for many reasons.

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 02:56 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Satmar Man Says:

I have nothing to hide. Why would I care if someone knew where I was, or even listened to my stuff.
If we lead a correct life, we need not worry.

This only concerned you, if you are misbehaving; no?

You are suspicious!!! Everyone have something to hide, okay!! Don't be cute.

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 03:24 PM ben Says:

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Anonymous Says:

You're right, and that's why the Bobover Rebbe (45) issued a zero tolerence of cell phones for bochurim.

is that his uniform number, age, or IQ? how disrespectful to have to refer to a Rebbe by a number! His father or uncle whichever one he is, went through the holocaust with a number and now we refer to him that way!?

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 03:57 PM Anonymous Says:

Who is this person in the picture above?

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 04:27 PM Milhouse Says:

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ben Says:

is that his uniform number, age, or IQ? how disrespectful to have to refer to a Rebbe by a number! His father or uncle whichever one he is, went through the holocaust with a number and now we refer to him that way!?

It's a way of identifying which Bobover Rebbe is meant. What, did all numbers become treif? How about references to the Six Million? Is that disrespectful too, according to you?

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 04:25 PM Indeed Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

this is old news for us yiden
עין רואה ואוזן שומעת
וכל מעשיך בספר נכתבים

The Chofetz Chaim al haTorah says that the reason technology was introduced into the world is to show precisely how it is possible, b'derech hatevah, things that people in the past took as emunah peshutah.

It is a siman of niskatnu hadoros.

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 05:06 PM Anonymous Says:

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Milhouse Says:

It's a way of identifying which Bobover Rebbe is meant. What, did all numbers become treif? How about references to the Six Million? Is that disrespectful too, according to you?

Anyone who watches 'Law and Order' already knows that nothing is private.

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 05:36 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
ben Says:

is that his uniform number, age, or IQ? how disrespectful to have to refer to a Rebbe by a number! His father or uncle whichever one he is, went through the holocaust with a number and now we refer to him that way!?

I didn’t mean to be disrespectful, but there are two Bobover Rebbes, one called “Bobov 45th” and the other called “Bobov 48”. That’s what I meant with placing “45” in parentheses.

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 06:10 PM ben Says:

Reply to #12  
Milhouse Says:

It's a way of identifying which Bobover Rebbe is meant. What, did all numbers become treif? How about references to the Six Million? Is that disrespectful too, according to you?

ma inyan shmittah eitzel har sinai? what a bad comparison!
There were 6 million kedoshim and its impossible when referring to them, to list them all by name, whereas in this case you CAN mention the Bobover Rebbe's name, when referring to one of them....

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 06:23 PM Milhouse Says:

Reply to #16  
ben Says:

ma inyan shmittah eitzel har sinai? what a bad comparison!
There were 6 million kedoshim and its impossible when referring to them, to list them all by name, whereas in this case you CAN mention the Bobover Rebbe's name, when referring to one of them....

But why should one? Since when does one refer to a current rebbe by his name?

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 07:27 PM Anonymous Says:

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Milhouse Says:

But why should one? Since when does one refer to a current rebbe by his name?

I call some of the Gedolim by name. Rav Pinchas Scheinberg, Rav Moshe Feinstein, etc

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 09:24 PM yankel Says:

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Anonymous Says:

I call some of the Gedolim by name. Rav Pinchas Scheinberg, Rav Moshe Feinstein, etc

I might also add : r' yoisef sholom elyashiv r' chaim kanievsky r' shmuel vosner r' moishe shternbuch r' shmuel kaminetzky r' yitzchak tuvie weiss r' michel lefkowitz r' nisim karelitz r' dovid feinstein r' ahron leib shteinman r' moish green r' yoisef rosenblum r' elya ber vachtfogel r' kopelman among others . shlita

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 11:08 PM Milhouse Says:

Reply to #18  
Anonymous Says:

I call some of the Gedolim by name. Rav Pinchas Scheinberg, Rav Moshe Feinstein, etc

Neither of them are rebbes.

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 Jun 01, 2009 at 11:45 PM FVNMS (45) Says:

Some of you really need to get a life.

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 Jun 02, 2009 at 07:24 AM clueless2., Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

this is old news for us yiden
עין רואה ואוזן שומעת
וכל מעשיך בספר נכתבים

What is that supposed 2 mean?

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 Jun 02, 2009 at 03:21 PM Askupeh Says:

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clueless2., Says:

What is that supposed 2 mean?

What he is bringing is a Hebrew quote from a Mishna in Ovos, that long before camera's were invented, long before video was invented the Misnah tells us that “Eyin Roiah” an eye sees, “Oizen Shomass” an ear hears, and “Vechol Masecho Besefer Nechtovim”, everything you do is written in a book. This saying is “Lesaber Es Ho’oizen” to make is palatable to the ear; because Hashem doesn’t need camera’s or video machines or even an eye to capture what we do; it is only explained this way so that a person being alone with nobody around, should feel the eyes (or eye) of Hashem on him/her; that is the only way someone can fear G-d, only if he/she believes Hashem is watching their every move.

Google “pirkei avot” and you will find a ton of information.

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