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Jerusalem - Israeli Officials Irritated By Obama, Say Bush Officials Agreed to Settlement Building

Published on:   Jun 03, 2009 at 01:30 PM
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Former President George W. Bush stands on stage with Israel's former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas Nov. 27, 2007. (Xinhua/Reuters Photo)
Former President George W. Bush stands on stage with Israel's former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas Nov. 27, 2007. (Xinhua/Reuters Photo)
Jerusalem - Senior Israeli officials expressed irritation on Wednesday that President Obama had declined to acknowledge what they called clear understandings with the Bush administration that allowed Israel to build West Bank settlement housing within certain guidelines while still publicly claiming to honor a settlement “freeze.”

The complaint was the latest in a growing rift between the Obama administration and the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over how to move forward to achieve Middle East peace. Mr. Obama was in Saudi Arabia on Wednesday and due to address the Muslim world from Cairo on Thursday.

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The Israeli officials said that repeated and ongoing discussions with Bush officials starting in late 2002 gave unambiguous permission to build within the boundaries of certain settlement blocs as long as no new land was expropriated, no special economic incentives were offered to move to settlements and no new settlements were built. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity about an issue of such controversy between the two governments.

When Israel signed onto the so-called roadmap for a two-state solution in 2003, which says its government “freezes all settlement activity (including natural growth of settlements),” the officials said, it was after a detailed discussion with Bush officials that laid out those explicit limits.

“Not everything is written down,” said one of the officials.

He and others said that Israel agreed both to the roadmap and to move ahead with the removal of settlements and soldiers from Gaza in 2005 on the understanding that settlement growth could continue.

The officials acknowledged that the new American administration had different ideas about the meaning of the term “settlement freeze.” Both Mr. Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton have said in the past week that the term meant an end to all building, including natural growth.

But they complained that Mr. Obama had not granted that the previous understandings existed. Instead, they lamented, Israel stood now accused of having cheated and dissembled in its settlement activity whereas, in fact, it had largely lived within the guidelines to which both governments had agreed.

On Monday, Mr. Netanyahu said Israel “cannot freeze life in the settlements,” calling the American demand “unreasonable.”

Dov Weissglas, who was a senior aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, wrote an opinion article for Yediot Aharonot, a mass-selling newspaper, on Tuesday in which he laid out the agreements he said had been reached with Bush officials.

He said that in May 2003 he and Mr. Sharon met with Elliott Abrams and Stephen Hadley of the National Security Council and came up with the definition of settlement freeze as “no new communities were to be built; no Palestinian lands were to be appropriated for settlement purposes; building will not take place beyond the existing community outline; and no ‘settlement encouraging’ budgets were to be allocated.”

He said that Condoleezza Rice, then the national security adviser, signed off on that definition later that month and that the two governments also agreed to set up a joint committee to define more fully the meaning of “existing community outline” for existing settlements.

President Bush presented Mr. Sharon in April 2004 with a letter stating, “In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli populations centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949.” That, Mr. Weissglas said, was a result of his earlier negotiations with Bush officials acknowledging that certain settlement blocs would remain Israeli and open to continued growth.

The Israeli officials said that no Bush official had ever publicly insisted that Israel was obliged to stop all building in the areas it captured in 1967. They said it was important to know that key verbal understandings reached between an Israeli prime minister and an American president would not simply be tossed aside when a new administration came into office.

Mr. Abrams, the former Bush official who was part of those negotiations, wrote his own opinion article in The Washington Post and seemed to endorse the Israeli argument. He wrote, “For the past five years, Israel’s government has largely adhered to guidelines that were discussed with the United States but never formally adopted: that there would be no new settlements, no financial incentives for Israelis to move to settlements and no new construction except in already built-up areas. The clear purpose of the guidelines? To allow for settlement growth in ways that minimized the impact on Palestinians.”

Mr. Abrams acknowledged that even within those guidelines, Israel had not fully complied. He wrote: “There has been physical expansion in some places, and the Palestinian Authority is right to object to it. Israeli settlement expansion beyond the security fence, in areas Israel will ultimately evacuate, is a mistake.”


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 Jun 03, 2009 at 01:41 PM Anonymous Says:

Bunk. as recently as january Bush and Rice were still hammering Israel on settlement expansion. they were harsh in annapolis and part bfeirush of the stupid road map by bush is a quote "end to the ocucupation which began in 1967"...this suddent attempt to shape bush as the hero and obama as the goat is just big power play of partisan politics and nothing more.

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 02:10 PM Anonymous Says:

Hold on a minute. Bush (US President) ALLOWED Israel (a sovereign nation) to build on ISRAEL'S own land?!?!

There's something very wrong with this statement. How about Obama's friends the Saudis "allowing" us to build in New York?

Isn't that the same thing?

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 03:19 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Hold on a minute. Bush (US President) ALLOWED Israel (a sovereign nation) to build on ISRAEL'S own land?!?!

There's something very wrong with this statement. How about Obama's friends the Saudis "allowing" us to build in New York?

Isn't that the same thing?

people dont get this in their heads.

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 03:59 PM Anonymous Says:

It is time for Bibi to go one step further and reject all US aid so he can really tell the US to stop meddling.
EY has enough of an economic base to do very well without the aid, and China, India and other future powers want to get their hands on weapons from EY which the US does not allow them to sell. The US aid was needed only when EY was a mismanaged socialist backwater; now it is a major high tech economy.

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 04:24 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Hold on a minute. Bush (US President) ALLOWED Israel (a sovereign nation) to build on ISRAEL'S own land?!?!

There's something very wrong with this statement. How about Obama's friends the Saudis "allowing" us to build in New York?

Isn't that the same thing?

No, he didnt. he was a harsh critic who applied pressure against natural growth construction.
obama and hillary are TAME compared to Bush and Rice.

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 04:24 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Bunk. as recently as january Bush and Rice were still hammering Israel on settlement expansion. they were harsh in annapolis and part bfeirush of the stupid road map by bush is a quote "end to the ocucupation which began in 1967"...this suddent attempt to shape bush as the hero and obama as the goat is just big power play of partisan politics and nothing more.

Oh I pitty your revisionist History. How can you compare a few statements of Rice in the last year of his presdency to the constant bombardment of threats and twisting of Isreal's arm. How can you compre what Obams is doing by giving legitimicy to Iran as long as Israel dosn't proceed with the peace process.

You will do anything besides admit that Obama was a mistake for liberal Jews. He is Israel's biggest threat.

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 03:37 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Hold on a minute. Bush (US President) ALLOWED Israel (a sovereign nation) to build on ISRAEL'S own land?!?!

There's something very wrong with this statement. How about Obama's friends the Saudis "allowing" us to build in New York?

Isn't that the same thing?

i was thinking the same thing isnt it shameful we have to ask goyim to allow us to live on our own jewish g-d given homeland like permission to live in a ghetto this is pure antisemitism telling us were not fit to live on our own homeland and also doubting our holy city and saying we cannot be there and trying to jew cleanse these places is sickening

this is our jewish g-d given homeland and if u dont agree move somewhere else and if u cannot submit too

and if u try to undermine or kill jews and try to conquer our land we according to torah kill the enemy his wife children and cattle

may we hear good news soon

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 05:48 PM Anonymous Says:

I think it is time for Israel to cut its ties with the U.S. and take matters into its own hands; grab all the land they can get and hope for the best - this is what Israel has wanted to do all along.

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 05:31 PM Charlie Hall Says:

Here is the relevant language of Bush's Road Map, which Israel agred to (GOI means Government of Israel):

"Settlements

* GOI immediately dismantles settlement outposts erected since March 2001.

* Consistent with the Mitchell Report, GOI freezes all settlement activity (including natural growth of settlements). "

http://www.mideastweb.org/quartetrm3.htm

The plain language would appear to be consistent with the Clinton/Obama interpretation. If Bush made verbal agreements with Israel, I guess they are worth the paper on which they are printed.

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 06:11 PM Yossi Says:

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Anonymous Says:

I think it is time for Israel to cut its ties with the U.S. and take matters into its own hands; grab all the land they can get and hope for the best - this is what Israel has wanted to do all along.

Dont you know USA history....??????? Every President wakes up every morning and before they walk into the Oval Office they jog around the White house and they STOP at the first Mail Box and drop a CHECK for Israel.....And you think its time to cut the ties with America.?????HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 07:21 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

I think it is time for Israel to cut its ties with the U.S. and take matters into its own hands; grab all the land they can get and hope for the best - this is what Israel has wanted to do all along.

its not the us its the gulos! let's pray for the real masiach!

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 07:00 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

It is time for Bibi to go one step further and reject all US aid so he can really tell the US to stop meddling.
EY has enough of an economic base to do very well without the aid, and China, India and other future powers want to get their hands on weapons from EY which the US does not allow them to sell. The US aid was needed only when EY was a mismanaged socialist backwater; now it is a major high tech economy.

maybe look at all the trade israel does with america and the eu before you make a radical statement like that

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 08:28 PM mottel Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

Hold on a minute. Bush (US President) ALLOWED Israel (a sovereign nation) to build on ISRAEL'S own land?!?!

There's something very wrong with this statement. How about Obama's friends the Saudis "allowing" us to build in New York?

Isn't that the same thing?

I agree with you. The secular zionists denigrated the ehrliche yidden as 'golus yidden' for being beholden to the goyishe authorities under which they lived.
Today there is not one other country in the world so beholden to another, as Israel. Even the corrupt, undeveloped backward nations that live off western, and mostly US, largesse; thumb their noses at america, and america cringes and pours more useless money down their corrupt maws. Egypt gets billions and spits on america. Only Israel dances 'ma yofis' and begs permission to be allowed to live in security

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 09:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Bush ain't the President no more!

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 09:01 PM Milhouse Says:

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Anonymous Says:

maybe look at all the trade israel does with america and the eu before you make a radical statement like that

What has trade got to do with it? Trade is two equals dealing for mutual benefit; why would that ever stop?

America owes Israel all the money it gives and more, because that was the quid pro quo for which Israel gave up the Sinai and all its resources. But the money does Israel more harm than good, so for Israel's own sake it should tear up the check and tell Obama where to shove it, and to take his opinions with it.

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 10:11 PM kingsley Says:

The Israelis are a bunch of dreliggers, kabtzonim and no guts like Obama cuddling up to chavez and the saudis instead of saying "all natural gas and California offshor edrilling will go forward.... He has like all the Presidents before him sold the US to the dictators and others in he middle east. Those with 10 wives and no rights for democracy. They are his buddies now. shame on him no guts to stand up for US
and stick by Israel and tell them "stop teaching hate-Israel is here to stay!! and grow naturally.. But most israelis are apologetic for their existence. A goy bleibt a goy!
Halacha beyodooa she eisav soineh ess Yaakov!!

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 10:07 PM Anonymous Says:

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Milhouse Says:

What has trade got to do with it? Trade is two equals dealing for mutual benefit; why would that ever stop?

America owes Israel all the money it gives and more, because that was the quid pro quo for which Israel gave up the Sinai and all its resources. But the money does Israel more harm than good, so for Israel's own sake it should tear up the check and tell Obama where to shove it, and to take his opinions with it.

because if you ignore the wishes of america and the eu they might put trade sanctions on israel

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 Jun 03, 2009 at 10:59 PM Milhouse Says:

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Anonymous Says:

because if you ignore the wishes of america and the eu they might put trade sanctions on israel

They would never be stupid enough to do that, and hurt themselves.

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 Jun 04, 2009 at 12:15 AM Anonymous Says:

israel has two broken feet. america are the cruches. have r wounds healed ? is it time for a country to stand on its own for once and not be told wat to do in its country and how to conduct itself.. that time has come israel must stand on its own.. throw the cruches away.. its not easy but it has to b done

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 Jun 04, 2009 at 06:40 AM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

maybe look at all the trade israel does with america and the eu before you make a radical statement like that

The US will have to buy EY high tech no matter what (civilian firms can do what they want in any case); however the net result of US aid is stifling of EY freedom and economic growth. India and China are the future.

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 Jun 04, 2009 at 01:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
Charlie Hall Says:

Here is the relevant language of Bush's Road Map, which Israel agred to (GOI means Government of Israel):

"Settlements

* GOI immediately dismantles settlement outposts erected since March 2001.

* Consistent with the Mitchell Report, GOI freezes all settlement activity (including natural growth of settlements). "

http://www.mideastweb.org/quartetrm3.htm

The plain language would appear to be consistent with the Clinton/Obama interpretation. If Bush made verbal agreements with Israel, I guess they are worth the paper on which they are printed.

The fact is stronger than what he or she wrote. They were not bothered or threatened during the Bush administartion. They had verbal agreements which the Bush administartion does not deny. What's in the Road Map is not as important, what's important is how you go about it.

Obama is currentlt saying Iran may continue with their nuclear activity and says that pressure on Iran is equated with Isreal proceeding with the peace process.

Charlie, dont you see the difference in their actions. The cozying up to Arabs, the public lecturing to Israel. Visting Arabs twice, Israel not even once. You are like the pre wwII Jews.

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