Jerusalem – Don’t Judge Chardeim By A Lunatic Fringe

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    Jerusalem – The recent Shabbat protests in Jerusalem quickly turned into “Shabbat battles.” The battles and wars led to a flare-up – with headlines such as “The haredim set the capital on fire” – and this flare-up again classified the ultra-Orthodox community as a mob of violent, provocative individuals. Meanwhile, the regular, normal haredim watched on with sadness.

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    After all, the ultra-Orthodox community – which as opposed to the common stereotype is wholly heterogenic – comprises many groups. One of them, and possibly the smallest one, is the Orthodox sect in Jerusalem. This branch, which is so small compared to the others, would have been considered irrelevant among the haredi public had it not been for its powerful and consensual adherence to Jewish law. Yet this small group manages to draw most headlines and turn all haredim into members of the “Orthodox sect.”

    The regular haredim, who are members of the sane mainstream, never belonged to this radical clique. Hundreds of thousands of haredim never saw equivalence between Israeli security officers and those responsible for the gas chambers in Nazi Germany. They do not hurl stones at cars traveling on Shabbat and don’t beat up teenagers in the framework of the “modesty squad.”

    Indeed, regular haredim also do not want to see the Shabbat trampled upon. The sane haredim are also hurting in the face of driving and other forms of public Shabbat desecration. However, it is clear to the normal haredim that the way of the “diaper-throwing mob” is not their way. Protests on behalf of the Shabbat were always held, but the objectives were different, and the way was different, and mostly saner.

    However, aside from the unequivocal statement that members of the “sect” don’t represent me, do I represent the ultra-Orthodox street? I don’t know. Yet for the time being, no well-known Sephardic or Lithuanian rabbi such as Rabbi Yosef and Rabbi Elyashiv endorsed the recent events.

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    At the same time, we must admit that the Shabbat protests are an example of how a small group that leads the ultra-Orthodox trend has been able to overwhelm the healthy Orthodox street as of late.

    For a long time, more than 50 years, haredim traveled in buses where men and women sat at the same section of the bus. The only strict rule, which did not need to be explicitly uttered, was the tendency of a man not to sit next to a woman. This sane arrangement was maintained for years. During those long years, distinguished religious students and today’s leading religious figures traveled by public transportation, yet none of them ever thought that being in the same radius as members of the opposite sex could undermine their sanctity or purity.

    Yet in recent months, all of us, the haredim, have become a bunch of lustful people who are unable to see a woman sitting at the front of the bus, as though only complete separation may save us from hell.

    How did that happen? The radical zealots sweep the moderate rabbis with their zealotry, as well as the solid individuals who do not always find the strength to object to that seeming “holy flame,” thereby amalgamating the entire Orthodox community into one radical organism.

    However, we the haredim were never an integral part of the ultra-Orthodox sect and we never belonged to it. God willing, we will not become part of the new ultra-Orthodox radicalism. Just so you know.


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    the clairvoyant
    the clairvoyant
    14 years ago

    why not? they represent there view.

    do you ever sees them at at proIsrael function? nahhh

    do you ever sees them act beyond there my-opic view? nahhh

    i sees dem for whats they is.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    For a long time I didn’t see such an Intelligence and honest perspective view on the orthodox community.

    bunim1
    bunim1
    14 years ago

    why cant things ever be worked out normally without threats?I am a regular religious jew from the usa who spent 20 months in Jerusalem.when will we start to see respect for other jews?if we treat all jews nicely we can explain the importance of the Chillul Shabbos especially when in walking distance to the holiest place in the world

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    If the non-radical haredi don’t want to be seen as also being radical lunatics, they need to speak out . Are there any haredi rabbis issuing psaks against these type of violent protests, are they explaining that its fine for persons of any gender to ride on any bus and with whom ever you want and that putting women in the back of the bus is wrong? Are they teaching live and let live? If so, let’s hear about it.

    me
    me
    14 years ago

    I don’t judge charedim by a lunatic fringe, I judge them by the mainstream view.
    When their rabbanim endorse these Shabbos protests,and even attend, that is not a fringe view.

    RJ
    RJ
    14 years ago

    “Yet for the time being, no well-known Sephardic or Lithuanian rabbi such as Rabbi Yosef and Rabbi Elyashiv endorsed the recent events”

    For the time being they haven’t endorsed the recent events? Is that the strongest statement the Charedi “leadership” can make?

    The writer poses the question at the end, “how did that happen?” Well it happened because there is no Charedi leadership, period. Leadership is defined as being ready to stand up and clearly define your stance on issues and provide clear direction, not sit passively on the sidelines while your religion is hijacked by lunatics.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    those lunatics will turn Israel into an Iran

    Yoelish
    Yoelish
    14 years ago

    very good article indeed. However, one thing that needs to be pointed out is, that even amongst the ultra ultra orthodox, the so called ” zebras”, there are many who would not act like this and they would not throw diapers on shabbos and the likes. Anyone whos has ever been to a shabbos meal in Meah Shearim knows how normal and open minded many of them are, despite their zealot views

    Dov
    Dov
    14 years ago

    Shtika k’hodaah – silence means consent. if no one speaks up we will assume that they are all in it together. The non-chareidis are moving out of Yerushalayim – who is going to pay for all the benefits?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    We wonder how Islam became so radicalized and how groups like the Taliban could gain such power . The muslims who just want to raise their families in peace stay silent because of fear. In Israel, the moderate haredis don’t have an excuse because at least so far, the radicals are not conducting beheadings and bombings. The time to be heard is now.

    educated black man
    educated black man
    14 years ago

    For me its all the same – can’t tell the difference – hassidim is hassidim and all you guys think you are second to none.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    How dare them minimize these protests by calling us a “Fringe group.”???/!!!

    The protests are a good thing. Some of the behavior by a few choice nut jobs during the protest is wrong, and embarrasses us, but the protests themselves are the right thing to do.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    “Shomor es Yom HaShabbos”…

    It is our G-d Given obligation to “Guard” the Shabbos….. a protest is the least we are obligated to do.

    MO
    MO
    14 years ago

    .It is a sad day when we permit the radical groups to take over

    avf
    avf
    14 years ago

    Its very foolish and ignorant to demand all disagreeing Rabbonim to Voice their disproval .Le`havdil Elef Havdolas Arab leaders should, to influence their followers and any other uncertain muslims.In the frum world all who act with violence consider mainstream Gedolim as wrongdoers/Evildoers(they tried to stone Rav Elyashiv a few years ago R”L) Therefore their is no point in trying to influence them.Now all followers of maimstream gedolim know clearly that violence is dispicable and wrong-so their is no need to influence their followers.Gedolim are also not public relations workers for chareidim ,thats not their job.

    Also people should not mix up the rally with the violence on the streets.The rally was led by Rav Weiss the Ravad and was supoosed to be peaceful.They are entitled to protest the chillul Shabbos in a peaceful way.To say the police started the violence their is probally more likely then not .(Amona ,Gush katif -anyone remember?)

    dovy
    dovy
    14 years ago

    Who wrote this drivel? The protesters were %99 peaceful, who came to support ShaBBOs, as Jews have always done. The brutal, wild, angry, violent policemen created a staged confrontation and used their anti-religous media to recreate what happened. THEY ARE THE LUNATICS! THOSE WHO ARE SILENT IN THE FACE OF POLICE BRUTALITY ARE COMPLICIT. Even the mizrachi should understand this after the brutal gaza expulsion and violent police behavior at their protests. But anti-semitism runs deep and many swallow the media garbage