New York City - Hundreds To Attend OU's 'Emerging Jewish Communities In The Nation' Fair |
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New York City - It’s back, bigger, and more timely than ever. Last year’s Orthodox Union “Emerging Communities Fair,” in which residents from the New York metropolitan area were encouraged to consider relocating, returns this year on Sunday, June 14 as “OU Emerging Communities: Job and Home Relocation Fair,” featuring 22 localities across the country and an emphasis on JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!
A year ago, more than 800 people attended to contemplate a move, with the biggest selling point being the more affordable cost of experiencing an Orthodox Jewish lifestyle in the highlighted communities. Responding to the vastly changed economic conditions since April, 2008 when the first Fair was held, this year’s version will highlight opportunities to find gainful employment as well as affordable housing for those making the move.
The Fair will be held June 14 from 12:00-5:00 p.m. at Lander College for Women, 227 West 60th Street between 10th and 11th Avenues in Manhattan.
The 22 locales, each with display tables, exhibits, and community representatives, include (those returning from last year are noted with an *): Upstate New York (Albany, Schenectady, Troy); Allentown, PA; Atlanta, GA; *Columbus, OH; *Dallas, TX; *Denver, CO; Des Moines, IA; Harrisburg, PA; *Houston, TX; Jacksonville, FL; Malden (suburban Boston) MA; *Memphis, TN; *New Orleans, LA; Norfolk, VA; Phoenix, AZ; Providence, RI; Richmond, VA; *San Francisco, CA; Southfield and Oak Park, MI (suburban Detroit); St. Louis, MO; Stamford, CT; and Stony Brook, NY.
The locales represented will offer:
• Job opportunities;
• Affordable housing;
• Close-knit and warm communities;
• OU synagogues, together with day schools/yeshivot; and
• Kosher stores and other communal resources (such as mikvaot and Judaica stores).
In other words, Orthodox Jewish life must be alive and well in these communities.
The big difference from last year is the emphasis on jobs, in addition to the lower cost of living. Communities are not expected to guarantee jobs, but have communal representatives to help job seekers find positions.
According to OU President Stephen J. Savitsky, who conceived the idea of the Fair last year, “We have begun to create an awareness that there are OU communities out there that offer a great deal to people interested in relocating. It’s a process. Last year we had 14 communities, and as word spread and others wanted to take part, this year we have 22. Last year we weren’t in an economic recession and 800 people attended. This year, we can anticipate an even larger turnout.”
He emphasized that despite the emphasis on employment, the program is not a job fair. “It’s a community fair in which people who are ready to move have an opportunity to see what’s out there, and to plan accordingly, with the convenience of having all of the destinations under one roof.”
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Jun 12, 2009 at 09:48 AM Lawyer Says:
Those who move to outlying communities for economic reasons should think about it carefully. True, some costs are less (real estate) but others can be much more (food). There was a recent article about Orthodox economics which stated that a family in Florida was paying $9 a bottle for kosher grape juice. Remember, kosher groceries have to be shipped farther and to a smaller community where there may be little competition. Meat, for example, could be double the price.
Just something to consider.
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Jun 12, 2009 at 10:06 AM Anonymous Says:
I would hardly call these communities "emerging." Most of them are long-established.
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Jun 12, 2009 at 10:05 AM Former New Yorker for 32 years Says:
There IS life outside the Ir haKodesh. Frum, vibrant life.
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Jun 12, 2009 at 10:00 AM David Says:
It's only certain food items that cost more, meat, chicken, wine, etc. But basic items, like fruit and vegetables, and packaged foods that are sold nationwide that already have a hechsher are typically less.
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Jun 12, 2009 at 09:28 AM Anonymous Says:
It is nice that OU is doing something for the community, but if you can’t find a job in NYC it be even harder to find one I other cities, unless you are guaranteed one.
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Jun 12, 2009 at 10:24 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Those who move to outlying communities for economic reasons should think about it carefully. True, some costs are less (real estate) but others can be much more (food). There was a recent article about Orthodox economics which stated that a family in Florida was paying $9 a bottle for kosher grape juice. Remember, kosher groceries have to be shipped farther and to a smaller community where there may be little competition. Meat, for example, could be double the price.
Just something to consider. ”
I grew up in nyc and moved after I got married to an out of town community with everything that is needed to live a true Torah life without the pressure of living in ny.
All your kids get into school. You are an active participant in things and life is so much more less stress. Ask your posek if you need to keep cholov yisroel out of town. Most rabbonim say that you don't need for your kids. NY rabbanim told me.
Basically being far from family is the hard part but hey at least you have a life.
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Jun 12, 2009 at 10:57 AM Israel is the place Says:
Have a small complaint that the OU is not also featuring communities in Eretz Yisroel at the same time. There is no place like "HOME".
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Jun 12, 2009 at 11:41 AM Jewish mother Says:
We left NY 16 years ago. My kids know how to keep kosher anywhere because they grew up shopping at places other than the "frum" market. It is true that kosher grape juice costs more and we only have a little on Shabbat. But all of our other groceries cost SO much less. (Produce, dairy, even kosher chicken).
We save a bundle on clothes because we do not fear wearing the same outfit twice. Our utilities are less too. As far as family, they all take their free vacations at our house so we see them plenty.
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Jun 12, 2009 at 01:18 PM Anonymous Says:
You mean there are frum Jews outside of Brooklyn???
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Jun 12, 2009 at 01:13 PM Boca Raton, FL Says:
Consier moving to Boca Raton, FL. There is a very nice Young Israel with a fantastic Rav, Rav Rabovsky, and even a very modern YU shul, Boca Raton Synagogue, along with many Chabad shuls. We have kosher shopping and day schools. The weather is great and home prices are half what they were two years ago. Very nice place to raise a mishpucha out of town. Fly to NY anytime with cheap airfares. Ahhhh, Florida ! Blue skys, warm ocean breezes. And you can drive to Miami Beach anytime to be with the rest of our people !!!
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Jun 12, 2009 at 01:10 PM Berel M'satmar Says:
As a former Boro parker living in Philly now I am so much more happy here .No financial pressures to pay $3000 a month in mortages when the house I purchased here was around $100,000 . I hardly have a morgage now. My kids get personal attention amd your not just a number ,
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Jun 12, 2009 at 01:35 PM PMO Says:
I moved to FL about 15 years ago. I can tell you that aside from the price of meat here, EVERYTHING is less expensive. In most cases, things are FAR less expensive.
- There is no state income tax.
- Property taxes are (on average) less than 1/3 of those in NYC
- Electricity costs less
- Groceries cost less
- Clothing costs less
- Tuition cost are, in many cases, HALF what they are in NYC
- Electricity costs less
- No need for home heating oil/gas, etc.
- Auto insurance is less than half of NYC
- Little to no parking tickets as nearly every place has parking lots
- Most communities are kept up beautifully as the result of very active homeowners associations (dirty/messy people and "shechita in the backyard" are not tolerated in these communities).
The best part is that you don't need to make $250k/year to be a homeowner. You can live VERY comfortably on $125k/year and a family can definitely still own a home with a total household income of ~$75k/year. I hear people complain that in FL you can't make as much money.... YOU DON'T NEED TO. You can make half as much and live twice as comfortably!
For most people, it is fear of the unknown that keeps them in the ghettos of Brooklyn. Get out! End the insanity! However, I will say that in FL we do not provide the kinds of socialist programs you get in NY. You are actually expected to WORK. There are no free-rides here, and as a result everyone has an equal opportunity to succeed. If living on welfare/WIC/food stamps, etc. is your life's ambition, FL will not work out for you.
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Jun 12, 2009 at 02:00 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Those who move to outlying communities for economic reasons should think about it carefully. True, some costs are less (real estate) but others can be much more (food). There was a recent article about Orthodox economics which stated that a family in Florida was paying $9 a bottle for kosher grape juice. Remember, kosher groceries have to be shipped farther and to a smaller community where there may be little competition. Meat, for example, could be double the price.
Just something to consider. ”
You also cannot choose from a variety of schools.
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Jun 13, 2009 at 09:48 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Those who move to outlying communities for economic reasons should think about it carefully. True, some costs are less (real estate) but others can be much more (food). There was a recent article about Orthodox economics which stated that a family in Florida was paying $9 a bottle for kosher grape juice. Remember, kosher groceries have to be shipped farther and to a smaller community where there may be little competition. Meat, for example, could be double the price.
Just something to consider. ”
Are you kidding me? Have you purchased rotisserie chicken at shoprite in Brooklyn its 11-12 dollars (price as of yesterday). I was in Houston a few weeks ago and their kosher rotisserie was 7 dollars. The prices in NY for kosher food are significantly higher then anywhere else because they can get a way with it because people like you buy and don't even realize how much their paying! A pint of Sharon's Sorbet (made here in NY) is over 4 dollars at the cheapest places (glat mart) yet in chicago (yes even after being shipped there!) it was 2.99. Ever buy cold cuts in NY ? Pastrami/corndbeef could be anywhere from 18-25$ a pound. Price in chicago pastrami 8.99 corned beef 10.99. So yeah, its worth paying the occasional 9 $ for grapejuice (though I have never seen it that expensive in all of the out of town places I have lived in/visited.) Get your head out of the Hamodia and go visit these places!
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Jun 13, 2009 at 09:50 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Those who move to outlying communities for economic reasons should think about it carefully. True, some costs are less (real estate) but others can be much more (food). There was a recent article about Orthodox economics which stated that a family in Florida was paying $9 a bottle for kosher grape juice. Remember, kosher groceries have to be shipped farther and to a smaller community where there may be little competition. Meat, for example, could be double the price.
Just something to consider. ”
Are you kidding me? Have you purchased rotisserie chicken at shoprite in Brooklyn its 11-12 dollars (price as of yesterday). I was in Houston a few weeks ago and their kosher rotisserie was 7 dollars. The prices in NY for kosher food are significantly higher then anywhere else because they can get a way with it because people like you buy and don't even realize how much their paying! A pint of Sharon's Sorbet (made here in NY) is over 4 dollars at the cheapest places (glat mart) yet in chicago (yes even after being shipped there!) it was 2.99. Ever buy cold cuts in NY ? Pastrami/corndbeef could be anywhere from 18-25$ a pound. Price in chicago pastrami 8.99 corned beef 10.99. So yeah, its worth paying the occasional 9 $ for grapejuice (though I have never seen it that expensive in all of the out of town places I have lived in/visited.) Get your head out of the Hamodia and go visit these places!